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06 Jun 2018 16:25:00
Someone mentioned a Kohler sleeve deal a while ago and apparently the guy who brokered it let slip United have activated Griezmann’s release clause?! This was a while ago and just read United are about to announce Kohler as a sleeve sponsor for £10M a year! 😳.

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1.) 06 Jun 2018 18:25:42
Was just about to post this. Has some legs as it was posted 7 days ago.


2.) 06 Jun 2018 18:17:05
Yeah I posted about it last week. It's a rumour that certainly has some legs. Maybe as an early Christmas present ed002 can put us out of our misery and let us know if we're still interested?

{Ed002's Note - The "release clause" for Griezmann is not anything to do with Manchester United.}


3.) 06 Jun 2018 18:49:08
Thanks ed. Have United been in contact with Atletico over a deal for the player?

{Ed002's Note - I have explained their interest in the apst. Right now the player is at the World Cup and no doubt pondering the Barcelona situation. AM want him to stay.}


4.) 06 Jun 2018 19:01:07
Thanks ed! If you have the time in the future to explain "release clauses" it would be amazing. I think the general consensus of them is X player has a £50 million clause. We bid and that's that. I think this assumption stems from Football Manager. Would love more details about it when you have the time. Cheers!

{Ed002's Note - Perhaps a reminder about transfer related clauses would be apt. This is a horribly complex area not least because they are written under individual national laws. They cause a great deal of misunderstanding with football supporters and the media alike.

The "buy out clause" is legally binding between a club and a player. The "buy out" is effectively what it says - a means for the player to buy himself out of the contract. As an example, if a player wishes to buy himself out of a contract, he pays the applicable FA (on behalf of the club) the amount of the "buy out" clause effectively becoming a free agent. The problem is that in most cases a player would need to obtain that money from the buying club - and this is fraught with issues regarding "tapping up" and, of course, taxation (as it can be seen as income for the player and would therefore be subject to income tax). There was a test case about the taxation issue in Spain about five years ago which is why they have an exception. All players in Spain and Portugal have a release clause that allows the player to buy himself out of his contract without tax implications. This was to address a ruling from around 30 years ago allowing players a way out of their contracts. It works differently in Iberia to elsewhere as the tax implications do not make such clauses viable. All players in Iberia must have a figure set and agreed with the club. So "buy out" clauses are very rare. Related to this is the Webster Ruling but I don't intend to go in to that now.

A "release clause" is far more common in that it gives a figure that the club would accept for the sale of a player to another club - but it is not legally binding except where both parties (clubs) are in the same country (for the sake of argument I should say that football Spain and Portugal count as the same country as do England and Wales) for legal purposes. These are normally unreasonably high figures (Messi at Barcelona for example) introduced to act as a deterrent for hostile bids - and even then the club could easily block a move. However, if a club in the same country does agree to match a release clause then the selling club would be obliged to ask the player if he is interested - there is no obligation on the player to make a move. For interested clubs outside of the country, the selling club may use it as a guide but are under obligation to accept a bid and may demand a higher figure.

There is then the becoming popular "termination clause" which is binding between the player and the club and if met would see an offer from anywhere accepted and the player given the opportunity to make a call on a move. This overcomes the issues associated with "buy out" clauses as the money would be paid by one club to another and about the legal proximity of the buying side.}


5.) 06 Jun 2018 19:13:05
On another matter, I see Diogo is all over the Man Utd homepage, But no sign of Fred as yet . I thought it was all done and dusted. And who next? . I wonder.


6.) 06 Jun 2018 19:31:55
Rock - i asked the same question. It looks like we have agreed the deal with his club but no official signing.


7.) 06 Jun 2018 20:52:40
Fred passed his medical on Monday so unsure why there hasn't been an official announcement. Only thing on the club website confirms the agreement between clubs.

Funny article I read that Arsenal are looking to make a move for Fellaini on a free transfer.


8.) 06 Jun 2018 21:18:23
Its possible due to the player concentrating on Brazil where dalot isn't with Portugal!


9.) 06 Jun 2018 19:41:41
Ed002, this is exactly why I come to this site; a proper education. Thanks for the breakdown.


10.) 06 Jun 2018 20:04:13
#ed002thagod.


11.) 06 Jun 2018 21:37:46
I thought it was because of international clearance? Whatever that means.


12.) 06 Jun 2018 23:34:40
Excellent insight into the world of transfers, thanks ed002, much appreciated.


13.) 06 Jun 2018 23:38:24
It’s quite easy to understand really.


14.) 06 Jun 2018 23:40:37
thanks ed02.


15.) 07 Jun 2018 00:02:05
Thanks ed002.


16.) 07 Jun 2018 00:56:52
Great insight Ed002 much appreciated.


17.) 07 Jun 2018 09:17:39
I would guess it’s related to him needing to obtain a work permit while Dalot doesn’t.


18.) 07 Jun 2018 10:39:25
Really interesting to read ed002, Thank you. Maybe one of us should forward this to the press I blame them most of the time for people's misunderstanding of transfer issues.

{Ed002's Note - They are on "red alert" waiting for it.}


 

 

21 Jun 2016 11:41:10
Hi Ed's, can you confirm the rumours regarding the Manchester City Rumour Page approaching Ronnie to sign for them til the end of the summer transfer window?

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{Ed001's Note - it is done deal, just awaiting Ronnie's signature on the dotted line....}


1.) 21 Jun 2016 12:17:27
I lead a sad life unfortunately Ports and Manchester United is my one and only love!

I may annoy a lot or if not all of you, but, I'm here! Sorry!

Ronnie.


2.) 21 Jun 2016 12:37:26
Ha, no need to apologise Ronnie, good to see a fan with as much passion as you do.


3.) 21 Jun 2016 12:47:30
Cheers Ports! 👍.


4.) 21 Jun 2016 13:02:51
Ronnie,

Keep posting buddy. Fans like you and fresh add a lot of value to the site.


5.) 21 Jun 2016 13:12:38
Keep going Ronnie, to be honest you are not doing anything different from most of the tabloids. taking a punt on a player coming in with the hope that one of them is correct. Then they can claim an exclusive.
Your suggestions are just a little more random and I don't know most of them.
I enjoy everyone on here, regardless of whether we agree. Beauty of being a fan. we have differing opinions.


6.) 21 Jun 2016 13:26:22
Keep it up Ronnie. Got to admire how you have got under the skin of a minority.


7.) 21 Jun 2016 14:33:00
How about Ronnie for England?


8.) 21 Jun 2016 16:25:04
Aaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh, matron!


9.) 22 Jun 2016 08:34:12
Top stuff Ronnie and Tony😀😀.


 

 

11 May 2015 21:58:07
Evening Ed's, kudos on the Benzema shout regarding the possibility of a bid being made as this has come out in some of the media today. My question is, if possible to offer an answer or opinion would be where United would stand against other clubs in the transfer. Obviously money is not going to be an issue, I should imagine we are ahead of Liverpool but I suspect Chelsea would be interested so do any of you have any insight or heard any murmurs on who Benzema would potentially favour? I'm not sure how his relationship with Mourinho was which would be a factor. Thanks for any views.

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{Ed004's Note - Impossible to answer because I don't know what Benzema thinks. If he's available a number of clubs will be interested but I can't see him leaving.}


1.) 12 May 2015 15:22:40
havent we tried to sign him in the past and he said no?


 

 

08 Apr 2015 16:39:12
I see a lot of people discussing the striker situation with RVP rumoured to be sold and the likelihood of Falcao not being signed. The name mentioned quite persistently at the moment is Cavani. Regular names include Ronaldo and Benzema, Schmeichel mentioned Ibrahimovic but one name that I haven't seen mentioned is Lewandowski? It was only in Feb when rumours (and I appreciate they are only rumours) that he was potentially unhappy at Bayern? Personally I think he'd be ideal, a proper number 9 for Rooney to play off. Perhaps an Ed could give any information on these rumours and if there is any potential development with his position at Bayern.

Apologise if this has been dealt with.

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{Ed002's Note - Lewandowski won't be moving to Manchester United.


 

 

15 Apr 2013 17:58:55
Evening Gents,

Just a heads up on the under 21's game tonight versus Spurs, good chance to see Januzaj turn Zeki Fryers inside out and back to front!

Don't think Powell is in the squad so hopefully see the lad against West Ham.

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1.) Lets not hurt him too much eh? just a broken leg? something small?


2.) In the squad to sit on the bench for 90 mins probably.


 

 

 

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27 Jul 2018 16:00:19
People moaning about signing Maguire for a large fee and based off the back of the World Cup may forget we paid a world record fee for Ferdinand in 2002 pretty much based off the back of his World Cup performance and that didn’t turn out to bad a signing! Think he’d be great in a back 3 of Bailly and Lindelof although can’t see us going 3 at the back.

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1.) 27 Jul 2018 16:36:39
The majority of players signed on the back of their world cup showings disappoint.

It's not the place to scout players.


2.) 27 Jul 2018 19:56:58
Didn't Mourinho show an interest in Maguire last year? Something tells me he did.


3.) 28 Jul 2018 07:23:12
We didn't sign Rio because of one world cup. he'd been training with England since Euro 96 and captained Leeds to ecl semi final. Hardly an uknown. Maguire would have been great 15 years ago. Football has moved on. To me, he hasn't got the brain to play at the highest level. Waste of money at the sums being talked about.

{Ed025's Note - they wont be asking you to contribute james, so dont worry about the cash mate its just a money-go round..


4.) 28 Jul 2018 17:34:00
Na I get that. It will be the scousers I work with pissing themselves and I can't be bothered to hear it Ed lol.

{Ed025's Note - i dont blame you mate..


 

 

27 Jun 2018 12:50:29
This Fellaini rumour has really baffled me. Looking at the midfield options we have Matic, Fred and Pogba who you'd imagine to be the main 3 to start and all Mourinho’s signings. McTominay who Jose gave his award to at the end of the season, Herrera who many would have as a potential starter and then Fellaini. Rumours are that we are still after a CM so that would be 7 into 3 with Fellaini, you would think and hope being at the bottom of the list. So this makes the potential renewal even more bizarre and to be honest, pointless. So what are the plans for Fellaini? Going to throw this one out there, what if Jose wants to use Fellaini as his back up striker? Tall, strong target man, if we are looking to get balls in the box from out wide to benefit Lukaku, Fellaini will benefit as well. He’ll hold the ball up and win flick ons for Sanchez and Lingard or the others? Will save money on looking for a back up striker as I don’t think Jose sees Martial or Rashford as that player! Just a thought because I cannot see any other reason for him being offered a contract! Baffling.

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1.) 27 Jun 2018 16:24:56
Hopefully this means the budget is spent on a RM, LB and CB.

We have plenty of CM's (of varying ability) so it makes business sense to keep hold of Fellaini rather than have to spend £30M on a backup player of similar ability in this market - considering we have already signed Fred - and use funds in areas where we are desperately short.


2.) 27 Jun 2018 23:50:37
Not bad there, Ports. That idea actually makes some sense. Fellaini certainly has the back to goal part down.


 

 

18 Jun 2018 11:51:26
With reports that Savic may be to costly and possibly off to Juve, I was wondering if anyone knew of any interest or possibly continued interest in Leander Dendoncker as an alternative option for CM?

Ports

{Ed002's Note - Mourinho was interested in Leander Dendoncker when he was at Chelsea and he is not a central midfield player and right now his agent is talking to other sides about the player - with one club in discussions on Friday who are looking to see if something can be done whilst he is in Russia. MU have other targets in mind.}


1.) 18 Jun 2018 13:37:18
Ed002, Are options still the same as you mentioned on your last update?

{Ed002's Note - Pretty much. Golovin interest of Mourinho's came back as I explained but don't expect anything to happen there - a couple of other sides are much better placed.}


2.) 18 Jun 2018 14:01:58
Thanks Ed002 for quick response.

Casemiro and Kroos.

Seri and Vidal (unlikely)


3.) 18 Jun 2018 15:10:48
Ed002, looking back at the posts I see you mentioned the below as our midfield targets, other then Fred is there anymore to be added to or taken off the list?

many thanks

Jorginho (CM/ DM) – player wants MC
Casemiro (DM) – a JM favourite
Fabinho (DM) - not first choice – doubtful

Toni Kroos (M) wanted by JM but not by the club – but JM may get his way
Arturo Vidal (CM) – age/ price makes him unlikely but JM likes him
Jean Michael Seri (M) – I would strike him from the list – talking to another PL side
Sergej Milinkovic-Savic (CM) – could be priced out of a move
Fred (CM) - alternative to SMS and Kroos.

{Ed002's Note - Aside from what I have already said, no.}


4.) 18 Jun 2018 16:38:10
Thanks Ed.


 

 

13 Jun 2018 14:45:47
With reports suggesting that Jose is steering clear of Rose and Alderwield now, most likely due to trying to negotiate with Levy, I was wondering about what happened to our reported interest in the PSG LB Kurzawa? Surely he is a cheaper option for LB and a decent option as well? I also made a point recently that a CB I’d like to see come in would be Boateng from Bayern. Keep seeing rumours if the right offer comes in for him Bayern would listen. I’d be happy with Kurzawa and Boateng coming in as cheaper alternatives to Rose and Alderwield with both bring the same quality IMO.

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1.) 13 Jun 2018 14:54:53
I don't rate Boateng at all. Looked dodgy McDodgyson at City and then whenever I watched him for Bayern or Germany he was just cruising with no pressure. A bit like Hummels, rare occasions when under pressure they look lost and I bet any of our CB's would look just as Rolls Royce playing CB for Bayern most weeks. I'd seriously rather have Smalling and Jones.

I like Alderweirald but he is a defenders defender, we need a Rio rather than a Vidic for that type of money, so I'm quite pleased if we have moved on. I haven't seen enough of Kurzawa to comment, but we 100% need a LB if Shaw isn't fancied.


2.) 13 Jun 2018 15:49:42
Kurzawa is average at best and boatang while decent is injury prone, how many more of those do we want in defense.

Ideally we should get rid of Smalling Jones rojo blind and darmian, get a good young cb like de ligt or pavard and get someone like bonuci to be the experienced guy if we can't sign alderwierld.

Lb we should be trying for Sandro, we have no width and stacking lw's all of whom like cutting inside won't solve the problem.


3.) 13 Jun 2018 16:35:17
I agree with beast. I do like the sound of the lad at Augsberg.


4.) 13 Jun 2018 17:42:21
had reservations regarding alderweireld and not sure on rose so if its true we've stepped away ;all good especially in relation to levy who is difficult to deal with and unrealistic in his valuations.
Would like skriniar as cb but we could be suprised.


5.) 13 Jun 2018 18:20:03
I still think Alderweireld is our main target, Spurs will lose him for less next summer unless he signs on so I think a deal can be done. Rose I’ve never been that keen on, Aaron Martin still an option? Who was that other Vettel back Ed002 said Jose remains keen on, Lopez?


 

 

13 Jun 2018 14:45:47
With reports suggesting that Jose is steering clear of Rose and Alderwield now, most likely due to trying to negotiate with Levy, I was wondering about what happened to our reported interest in the PSG LB Kurzawa? Surely he is a cheaper option for LB and a decent option as well? I also made a point recently that a CB I’d like to see come in would be Boateng from Bayern. Keep seeing rumours if the right offer comes in for him Bayern would listen. I’d be happy with Kurzawa and Boateng coming in as cheaper alternatives to Rose and Alderwield with both bring the same quality IMO.

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13 Oct 2017 15:04:50
I agree that contracts be for the manager or the player never dictate whether the manager or player stays or not but what it does ensure is some protection that if they were to go due to their own decision or they were approached by another club, we would get a fairer deal rather than if they only have 1 year left on their contract.

I also think if Mourinho signs an extension it signifies the clubs intent for longevity and consistency with the project which may appeal to future transfer targets. RVP was a prime example who came to play for Sir Alex and was left gutted when he retired the following year.

Unfortunately this doesn't always work, David Moyes, but s a different level, a different beast to Moyes so I think him signing a long term contract is a good signal. I also believe this is the job he will stay in longer than any of his previous jobs, I can see him staying for a good 6 to 8 years at United.

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15 Aug 2016 13:05:08
If I had to choose on performances I would still opt for Young over Depay as he is pretty reliable however I still think Depay can and will come good and Jose seems to see potential from comments he has made so unfortunately that is another player Young is behind. I think Young is to good to just be a bit part player and he deserves to get regular football but just not with us. I do like Young as an individual though from interviews and he seems to love being a United player so I hope he gets a good club should he leave.

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12 Aug 2016 13:13:06
I think that would be a good move for Periera, I think Middlesbrough will try and play ''good'' football and he'll see a lot of the ball. I just hope if he does go out on loan, he gets game time unlike some other kids who have gone out and got no more time then they would have if they'd stayed with us!

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12 Aug 2016 13:13:06
I think that would be a good move for Periera, I think Middlesbrough will try and play ''good'' football and he'll see a lot of the ball. I just hope if he does go out on loan, he gets game time unlike some other kids who have gone out and got no more time then they would have if they'd stayed with us!

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01 Aug 2016 12:34:32
I think a move to Sunderland would be good for Fellaini. Never thought he was good enough to do the role he did at Everton for us and we had better players in that role and he certainly is not a DM so we didn't really suit his game.

Might have a look at him for the Fantasy Football Team if he goes though, could get back amongst the goals although not sure the cards will stop coming his way!

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17 Aug 2018 22:47:51
Sorry, what was wrong with his comments? Can anyone actually see Messi or Neymar in the Premier League? Does Martial give that impression that he has a desire to, score goals like a Van Nistelrooy, Shearer, Drogba etc? When asked about who United’s best defender is, who has he got to pick from? Smalling, Jones, Rojo? All who have been criticised on here by fans. Young or Valencia? Both questioned on here by fans as not out and out defenders. Lindelof, Bailly, Shaw? All who on paper have the potential to be but have yet, if we are all honest, put in consistent performances to justify the title of our best defender! And finally Herrera, he didn’t set the world alight when he came in, wasn’t a house hold name and then put in some passionate displays but really, not ever had any sustained consistency in the team or with performances.

It’s ok to be critical of the team, doesn’t mean he’s not passionate about the team. I take greater offence to Roy Keane’s comments about us as he comes across as bitter and resentful of the club and this is a player who is one of my favourite United players to have pulled on the shirt for what he gave for the club and not forgetting how the club backed him on numerous misdemeanours.

Finally two comments made me fall of my sofa laughing, he should come back and work for free if he loved the club so much and further down the page, they get a script of what to say 😆.

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01 Aug 2018 10:43:04
Some fans have been crying out for the likes of TFM, Tuanzebe and Periera being more perminent fixtures in the 1st team squad so maybe this transfer window could be a blessing in disguise for the kids. The biggest challenge will be if we have a period of poor results, will José put his trust in the kids to get us out or resort to more senior figures like Fellaini, Jones, Young and Valencia? Currently, i’d Take a season with the kids, putting trust in them and hopefully with the likes of Pogba, Matic, Fred, Sanchez and DDG be strong enough to finish top 4, have a good cup run, even win the FA cup or League cup but be set up strongly for a number of years after.

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04 Jul 2018 14:15:34
Last night we had 7 corners and Colombia made 23 fouls, let's say at least 15 of them were in areas where we could deliver. We had 7 corners v Belgium and they made 14 fouls, let's give 8 of them in areas to deliver. We actually only had 3 corners v Panama and they gave away 13 fouls so 7 in areas to deliver and finally 7 corners v Tunisia and they made 14 fouls so let's go 8 within delivery. In total that is opportunities to get 62 chances to deliver the ball at least into the opposition’s box. With the likes of Kane, Henderson, McGuire, Stones all 6ft+ it would be naïve of us to not play to our strengths and with VAR being the way it is why not get balls into the box.

The point is, although our chances aren’t coming from open play, we are creating chances to get deliveries in to the box through the runs in behind from Lingard especially and working the ball into good positions for Young and especially Trippier from open play. So for me, we are attacking well, we are getting into good positions and we are punishing teams (Belgium being an exception) when given these chances.

As for Walker being off, he is not in the team now for his attacking ability as he is part of a back 3 so apart from his mistimed back pass, he came across and cleared up well on a few occasions because of his pace. Young defensively was strong and delivered some good balls and Harry Kane was immense last night, holding the ball up, doing defensive duty and getting the pen again and scoring.

If we score 3 more goals for the rest of the tournament and win the games 1-0 and all goals are from a set piece, I for one will not be complaining.

It’s coming home.

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27 Jun 2018 11:31:16
If these rumours are true, why make a big deal of the whole announcement being the 1st of July. I'd get it if he was signing for someone else but just renewing his contract is ridiculous. I think Caolan_2 has hit the nail on the head with the original offer we made being the best he got offered.

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25 Jun 2018 11:33:59
Unfortunately, we are a nation that uses work rate as a defining factor on who is a great player. Young kids who tear about the pitch will always stand out above the others. When we go into an international tournament we use 'Passion', 'work rate', 'determination' as reasons for us to be hopeful for performing well rather than having technically great players or being tactically astute.

I think this mindset is slowly changing and we are now getting players who tick all the boxes but as fans, we still like to see a players charging 40 yards across the pitch to close down a player they have no chance of putting any pressure on but will succeed in tiring themselves out ready for that through ball or 10 yards to win a ball when we need them to!

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