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07 Jul 2017 21:03:49
So apparently Chelsea have matched our offer for Lukaku! Its all happening.


1.) 07 Jul 2017 21:23:44
He won't go to Chelsea, advisors from both clubs have met the fee has been agreed, Rom is holidaying with Pogs at the mo, plus Rooney will be back in blue by sunday all sorted i recon.

2.) 07 Jul 2017 21:29:47
These transfer window rumours are ridiculous.

3.) 07 Jul 2017 21:37:30
Hes already in L. A with pogba where he is rumored to be having his medical, the team fly out on Sunday. Says it all really.

4.) 07 Jul 2017 22:07:29
Do you think we will sign lukaku or will chelsea sign him.

5.) 07 Jul 2017 22:22:01
I honestly don't care who he goes to. If we sign him, great he's a proven goalscorer in the EPL and will add something to the team.

If Chelsea get him we can sign someone like Morata and move on.

6.) 07 Jul 2017 22:53:53
I hope we get the LuBe strike force mentioned on the banter page Lukaku and Bellotti 😆😆.

7.) 08 Jul 2017 10:38:50
If united bought belotti conte may explode.



01 Jun 2017 19:21:50
Strong reports in the Portuguese media that we have agreed a deal for €35mil +€5mil in bonuses for Victor Lindelof. Could be our first signing of the summer.




01 Jun 2017 09:38:49

How is the upheld transfer ban for Atletico Madrid expected to impact a potential deal for Antoine Griezmann? Or is it unrelated?


{Ed002's Note - I don't think it will make a difference as I expect him to stay another year as he will want to move to the new stadium.}



27 May 2017 16:46:11
Reports in italy claim that we have struck a deal with Inter for Ivan Perisic for €45mil.


1.) 27 May 2017 23:33:38
Not seen much of him at Inter but I do remember him at Wolfsburg.
Just looked up his YouTube clips and even they don't make him look any good.
In Jose we trust.

2.) 28 May 2017 09:39:00
For Croatia he's amazing top player quick direct n scores goals!

3.) 28 May 2017 22:13:38
Creates plenty, quick, runs at defenders, two footed, and scored a few this season also, wouldn't be my number one choice but would be a welcome addition to the team for me and would improve us no doubt.



19 May 2017 18:11:44

Lots of reports tonight that Manchester City are close to agreeing a deal for Fabinho. Are they interested in him and have any talks taken place? I was hoping we would see him at Old Trafford next season.


{Ed002's Note - Manchester City have discussed two players with Monaco - one of which is Fabinho.}

1.) 20 May 2017 12:33:52
Hi ed have Manchester United had discussions with Monaco for any players yet?

{Ed002's Note - Yes, this has all been discussed.}

2.) 20 May 2017 15:10:03
Hi Ed, Sorry to hassle you further on the Fabhino rumours but, after a cursory search about the player, other media outlets are suggesting that Man City are now looking to sign him - and his representatives prefer Cuty. Any truth in any of this please?

Many thanks as always for any response.

{Ed002's Note - I have just answered this in this thread!!}

3.) 20 May 2017 21:05:42
Really sorry Ed, posted it before your reply appeared, must've been a trick of the data cloud as answers and questions were swirling around! Sorry again!

4.) 20 May 2017 21:06:45
Oops just read thread again, my mistake, very sorry! Need to be a bit sharper next time!

5.) 20 May 2017 21:56:20
Wallace, I really think you should apologize to ed002 please.

6.) 20 May 2017 22:20:36
You're right Angel, hope Ed002 accepts my apology - will teach me to read things correctly in future. What a wally!

{Ed002's Note - I acccept it.}

7.) 20 May 2017 23:53:45
Wally by name.

8.) 21 May 2017 07:34:42
'What you talkin bout Wallace'

9.) 21 May 2017 07:53:51
Beast that's twice uv made me laugh this week.

U feeling more relaxed now, that trip away has done u good 😊.

10.) 21 May 2017 12:15:21
Nah EZRS mes Beast has been nice to him that's why he is more relaxed. 😉😂😎.

11.) 21 May 2017 19:40:00
Cant argue with that 666 a happens to us all.




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19 Mar 2018 18:54:54

Jose likes Fellaini because he does a specific tactical job for him and follows instructions. Its not difficult to understand. Its the same with Rojo who is a good backup defender to have and can play multiple positions. This is why he has been given a new contract.

You cannot change the whole team at once. Which is why the manager may choose to keep certain players that he isn't totally convinced of as first 11 players but wants to keep them as squad players to maintain stability.

Jose trusts Valencia because he does his defensive job and he is the only one he's got at RB! If Jose could buy a fullback he would but other positions (in the spine) have taken priority. He could have bought a RB instead of Matic for eg. but we would have less points as a weak midfield would make the team suffer more than a fullback being good defensively but not offering much in attack.

Jose's biggest fault has been buying Pogba. He lacks the brain to be a good midfielder and as long as he keeps picking him we will continue to fail. When the midfield isn't performing everyone else suffers because that is the heart of the team. I hope Jose addresses the midfield issue this summer and gets a couple of midfielders in.

Jose's signings along the spine of the team have largely worked.
1. Lukau - Done well
2. Matic - Done well
3. Ibra - Short term fix, done well for last season.
4. Bailly - Always a rock when fit. The manager can't be blamed for his luck with injuries.
5. Lindelof - Center backs always struggle in their first season in the EPL and need to be eased in. Jose picks Smalling ahead of him because Smalling is currently bulkier and more experienced in the EPL in terms of defending. It is obvious Jose wants another center back.
6. Sanchez - Opportune signing. He's barely had couple of months.

We know Jose wants a new left back. We know he wants to sign a couple of midfielders (interest in Jorginho and SMS) . We know he wants a new winger who is good at crossing and works hard (Perisic interest last summer) .

I am far from saying Jose hasn't made mistakes. But the abuse and criticism he is getting while the likes of Klopp and Pochetino escape any scrutiny is ridiculous considering he is above them in the table. I maintain that only City have been better than us this season.

He got the Sevilla tie horribly wrong and maybe our approach could have been a bit different in a couple of games and we could be a few points higher but apart from that we've done well and have made good progress. It certainly doesn't warrant sacking.


{Ed025's Note - i respect that you are sticking up for your club and its manager redfaith but sometimes you have to look past the red tinted goggles mate, points wise you have a case but in respect of the entertainment and the history of the club im afraid jose falls well short, im sure finishing a distant second (if that even comes to pass) may appease some fans but that is not what i consider a man utd team to be happy with..

1.) 19 Mar 2018 19:21:46
So in short Jose rates rojo fellaini and Valencia.
Pogba is the main issue
And out of all of Jose signings only matic and lukaku have done well.

2.) 19 Mar 2018 19:40:04
cannot argue with that Ed025. I think jose is a very good manager but that does not immediately translate to him being the right man for the united job. there is a certain way that you must play, and a certain way you must hold yourself. let's just see what happens but I think there are many other managers out there who are a better fit. having said that, it seems that he will not be sacked so I will back him because I support the team. And I will continue to do so until the day he leaves, even if I want him gone or if the results are poor.

{Ed025's Note - and fair play to you park mate..

3.) 19 Mar 2018 20:43:48
Park - 100% the correct assessment of how a United fan should feel at this point. I bet the ones supporting Mourinho regardless of his classlessness, were the first to jump on LvG when he didn't compete for 2nd place.

4.) 19 Mar 2018 21:09:11
Ed 25 - maybe I should already know this but just out of interest what team do you support?

Success is never guaranteed, but surely it makes sense to put your trust and faith in manger that has brought success to every Club he has ever managed.

We will finish higher in the league with more points, more goals and more wins than any other season since Fergi retired. Whilst the football has been generally slow and turgid we have witnessed moments of brilliance and seen spells of dominance. The team is inconsistent. Our attackers blow hot and cold and this has nothing to do with Jose tactics. It's not his fault when a chance is missed, a simple ball is misplaced or a player makes the wrong decision. Our quality in the final third can be erratic. What hasn't escaped my attention is that when we score first we win.

The style of play is open to debate but I think this has as much to do with the inconsistency of the players than any tactics employed by the manger. Yes he has been unduly negative in some big games, the Sevilla performance was disappointing to say the least but the progress is there for anyone that cares to look.

I can't say if Jose will win us the league but at the moment the Club needs stability. For now Champions League qualification is progress. The team is evolving and improving rather than regressing. We need to look at the bigger picture. Hand on heart and if everybody is truly honest the performances against Chelsea and L'pool were poor. They both followed a similar trend yet we got the job done and won those games. Not many came on here and called it as it was. On another day we could easily have lost both games. I was worried about the Sevilla game as I didn't think we were playing well. I expected a nervous and cagy evening. I half expected a score draw and an away goals elimination but if we had got the first goal we'd have won.

At the moment it just makes sense to me to trust a manger than has won everything, seen everything, managed the biggest Clubs, the biggest players, handled the biggest ego's. Jose knows exactly what he's doing and I hope the board trust his experience and pedigree and give him the backing so he can do his job.

{Ed025's Note - i support everton for my sins danny, on jose i cant argue with his record in the past...but its exactly that...IN THE PAST, the game has moved on all the successful teams are playing a high press attacking brand of football that is not only successful but easy on the eye, the guy is a dinosaur for me mate and is more interested in his own ego than any club..harsh i suppose but true nevertheless..

5.) 19 Mar 2018 22:07:24

Don't twist my words. Jose would not buy a Fellaini, Rojo, Valencia. But he would keep them as squad players if he has to choose which players to keep based on their attitude and work ethic because he can't ship 10 out and buy 10 players as it would completely destabilize the squad.

Would you sack a manager who is 2nd in the league, in an FA cup semi and got us into the knockout stages of UCL after 2/ 3 years not even being in the competition? This is our best league position since Sir Alex left.

Only Pep has done better and we ain't getting him.

6.) 19 Mar 2018 22:20:24
"I tried to sign Antonio, when I was at Madrid, even though he was not playing right-back at the time, I thought he could be phenomenal in that position. As it was, United told me ‘no chance! " Jose

 “He is simply the best right-back you can have, there is no better right-back in football" Jose.

7.) 19 Mar 2018 22:01:03

I have far from red tinted specs. I don't think Jose has been flawless and I clearly point out some of his mistakes like buying Pogba, sticking to a 2 man midfield etc. But I fail to see if any other manager in the EPL bar Guardiola would have done better. He has made mistakes but others have made far more.

If you are saying we can replace Jose with Pep right now I would bite your hands off but that ain't happening. When I look to other options they don't seem very appealing to me and I am not sure anyone could come in, suddenly change the style of play AND win.

The grass isn't always greener on the other side. Allegri's style is far from attacking. Carlo's league record is sketchy. Poch is yet to win anything. I am skeptical Jardim can translate his results from the French league to the EPL.

Many are clamoring for Pochetino yet he's won nothing and his team rely heavily on Kane. One must remember that Klopp has made some terrible transfer decisions before getting a couple right with Salah and Firmino. He too has won nothing yet and is even further behind and the defense at Liverpool is still poor.

I look at what Jose has inherited and where he has got us. I don't see why United should sack a manager who is 2nd in the league and in an FA cup semi final. If we are to do that we would be changing managers every 2 years.

I never expected Jose to come in and play "The United way" whatever that means. I expected him to get results and bring back some confidence and winning mentality and making some tough decisions (like getting rid of Rooney instead of "how to get the best out of Rooney") .

For all the talk of style it was one bad result that's gotten everyone against him. The shutout of Liverpool where they created nothing at OT was completely forgotten. The comeback against Chelsea was forgotten. When the season ends, Pochetino and Klopp will have won nothing and finished lower than us in the league.

{Ed025's Note - you make a very good case for the defence there redfaith, in the end its all down to opinions mate and even though i respect your views i just dont think he fits at a club of united,s stature..

8.) 19 Mar 2018 22:14:55
Red faith
How do you know that Jose wouldn't sign fellaini or rojo . He signed lindelof and Miki.

You are aware that Jose has gone on record as saying he tried to sign Valencia for Madrid.

9.) 19 Mar 2018 22:24:41
Ed 25 - I get your argument and if I'm honest part of me even agrees with you but I'm not sure he's finished just yet.

I think if he can just hold it all together and not lose the dressing room I don't think we're that far away.

Maybe I'm a dinosaur myself but I don't think this high press, high intensity football is anything new and whilst I'd love an injection of it into our game I'm all for balance and maybe there's a time to press and a time to sit deep and consolidate.

I can genuinely see progress and whilst I share some reservations I'm prepared to be patient and trust his pedigree.

{Ed025's Note - i hope your right danny...i just cant see it mate..

10.) 19 Mar 2018 22:37:53
Danny lancs again with the sensible and balance posts. Stop it Danny lol.

11.) 19 Mar 2018 22:44:23
Jose is talking about his time at Madrid. Yes and Antonio Valencia was different player when Jose was at Real Madrid. More direct and an excellent crosser. His game has changed since his injury against Bayern and his crossig is poor now. He didn't try to sign him when he was at Chelsea recently did he? He didn't try to sign Fellaini or Rojo there either when he could have but chose other players instead.

If you want quotes just look at the most recent one where Jose says he is not happy with Valencia's attacking but admits he is solid defensively. i. e. he sees we can do better but he is playing him as he is his best option.

How do you know he would try to sign them NOW if they were at other teams?

12.) 19 Mar 2018 22:54:04
Red faith
I don't know .
I don't think Jose tried to sign Messi at Chelsea but I would be surprised if he doesn't rate him
In Tony he made him captain and if fit he plays . Which isn't a surprise as only last season he said he was the best rb in the world football .

Why don't you think he rates him.

13.) 19 Mar 2018 23:39:14
Ed002 says he did.

14.) 19 Mar 2018 23:59:13
Did he not say the Russian tried to sign him.

15.) 20 Mar 2018 06:44:13
REDFAITH, good post, the one where you mention that the grass isn’t always greener. I posted yesterday that peel wanted SAF sacked after we won nothing in’95 and he sold Ince and Kanchelskis and look how that turned out. You make a compelling argument but one of the issues for me is that I don’t see a clear plan. I don’t see a style or an approach, other than stifle the opposition. Spurs and Liverpool may have won nothing yet but they have a defined style and once you have that you can then buy better players to enhance it.

It’s all about opinions, I think Liverpool are getting better and better and if he buys wisely they will be a real threat next year. Spurs will struggle due to their wage structure and as you said, they appear very reliant on Kane. I think Ed and Danny summed it up, Ed thinks he is yesterday’s man, Danny thinks he isn’t quite finished yet. I guess that the million dollar question.



18 Mar 2018 20:40:40
I see a lot of Jose bashing on here and in the media and it is quite baffling to me.

We just came off 2 weeks in which we beat Chelsea and Liverpool and reached an FA cup semi final. Yes, we lost in a disappointing fashion in the UCL but that's a 3/ 4 good results that we've achieved. 2 of them against tough opponents.

Liverpool's free scoring front 3 barely had a shot on target and were made to look completely impotent at Old trafford. With all the possession they had we let them create next to nothing and their goal came from a freak Bailly OG. They are behind us in the league, have spent just as much and yet there are no questions asked of Klopp but Jose is under pressure?

I see everyone praising Pochetino, talking him up as a potential United manager yet he's won nothing, his teams regularly crumble and fall at the final hurdle and time and again need Harry Kane to bail them out and are quite inconsistent without him. Yet, there is so much praise for Pochetino but talk of Jose needing to go? Do Spurs really play that much better than us?

So, one loss to Sevilla has to put a manager on the brink when he's won 2 trophies last year, put us back in the UCL, in an FA cup semi final and 2nd in the league to a team that is playing on superhuman levels? Is this Manchester United or Real Madrid/ Chelsea?

Everyone seems to think we have such great players with potential who aren't performing because of the manager, I tend to disagree.

When was the last time Pogba played a full 90 minutes in which he totally controlled the game? He has a few flashes and tricks that sometime come off but he doesn't do the basics a CM is supposed to do of positioning and consistent passing and dictating tempo and gives away the ball cheaply. For a tall guy he repeatedly loses headers on second balls. If there's one mistake Jose has made imo, its buying Pogba. His mistakes got covered up at Juve because of Pirlo and Vidal who were world class. A player who looks good in highlight reels but never delivers over a full 90 minutes and seems to be playing with his mates in the park. He is 25, the days to talk about "potential" are long gone.

There were questions about youth development when Jose came yet he trusts Lingard who is having his best season for us this year, Rashford plays every game and he is trusting a young Scott Mctominay. He's doing the best with the youth at his disposal.

Are Martial and Herrera really that great players? Has Smalling ever filled you up with confidence? And for all the talk of potential, which was the 90 minutes that made you actually see it on the pitch with Shaw? The only ones who are performing consistently imo are Lukaku (even when he didn't score he created chances for others), Matic (been solid all season but been let down by his partner), Mata (always a 7-8/ 10) and Lingard (always has movement and causes problems), Bailly and of course De Gea. The rest of them look, just like they did under Moyes and LVG, go hiding, show no movement and play it sideways instead of taking players on.

How is it that Matic gives that performance he did against Brighton but the others don't? How is it Lukaku creates for his teammates even when he's in bad scoring form? How is it that Lingard shows movement but others don't? Are these guys being told some different tactics by Jose than the others? Or is it a lack of character from the others? For all the talk of defensive tactics, Jose's Chelsea, Madrid and Inter had some really good dominant displays.

I feel the squad Jose took over was very average and needed "major retooling". He didn't start with KDB, Sterling, David Silva, Aguero, Kompany, Fernandinho already at the club and Fergie's lack of investment and the next two managers' poor spending left us in a hole.

He's found one midfielder, striker, a good center back and half a decent center back and made a big mistake on Pogba. Our spending gets very distorted when we look at the overall money spent but one must realize that a huge chunk of it was spent on Lukaku and Pogba. He hasn't actually bought that many players and the squad is largely the same.

Jose's made a lot of enemies in the media, all of whom were just waiting for that one defeat to turn the knife in. The ones who are freaking out over here have never particularly wanted him anyway. Sacking him now will achieve nothing and we will go through another huge process of starting all over again and what is to say the next manager will play the football of your dreams? The grass is always greener on the other side.

The club need to back Jose and let the players know that the manager is in charge and they have to perform or perish and will be shipped out no matter their name. That is the only way some of them will stop slacking off. Has Jose made some mistakes? Yes. But he's done better than most and does not deserve the level of criticism he's getting right now.


1.) 18 Mar 2018 21:14:35
Ken meet REDFAITH, REDFAITH, this is ken.

2.) 18 Mar 2018 21:18:24
Good post redfaith.

I have consistently said the same players who were there under LVG and Moyes have not performed. 3 different managers and not really performed. For all of joses faults, whether he is the man to take us forward or not, opinions will differ. The players are and have not been good enough for a good 5 or 6 years.

3.) 18 Mar 2018 21:50:19
Pogba Miki Sanchez lindelof ibra have all been amazing this season .

4.) 18 Mar 2018 21:52:23
For me our biggest problem at the moment is our lack of pressing and intensity. We're just so passive and seem to let even the most average of teams have comfortable possession.

I'd like us to be braver and push 10-20 yards further up the pitch. I'd love to see us play with a much higher intensity and desire especially at Old Trafford.

This was the most disappointing thing about the Sevilla game. We sat back and hoped for something to happen rather than taking the initiative and making something happen. We made it comfortable for them by being far too passive which allowed them to grow in confidence and we just let the game drift dangerously towards full time.

I honestly don't know if this is down to the tactics, a lack of desire on behalf of the players or a combination of the two.

I can't see why a front 4 of Rashford, Sanchez, Lingard and Lukaku shouldn't be able to put the opposition defenders under pressure. Once they start hunting the ball down it becomes infectious, the crowd are engaged and the rest of the team should naturally follow. Sometimes just a bit of effort and desire is enough to energise the crowd and wake everybody up.

For the rest of the season I'd like to see us start games with a higher tempo. Put the opposition under pressure, don't let them settle, be braver with and without the ball, work harder and just get some urgency and intensity back into our game I don't think that's too much to ask.

5.) 18 Mar 2018 21:38:27
Great post redfaith.

6.) 18 Mar 2018 22:11:20
Pogba has been v hit and miss, lindelof very much improved since the start but Jose seems to prefer smalling? Miki not good enough and already gone, Sanchez, no doubt is very good but not here long enough yet. Ibra won many games for us last season and has been injured this year.

I'm much more worried about the players who have been here years and consistently performed at a level that is just not good enough.

7.) 18 Mar 2018 22:13:57
'Jose done nowt wrong'

8.) 18 Mar 2018 22:19:33
Take away the likes of smalling and co that have won the epl which players have been here years and proved there not good enough.

Do you think fellaini is good enough? Do you think Jose rates him?

9.) 18 Mar 2018 22:23:36
Jose took over a squad that had just finished on the same points as city and won the fa cup.
Since then only city and pay have spent more . Mind you we got Sanchez and ibra for nothing other than there mega wages .

Not sure Jose has had it as hard as some would like to make out .

10.) 18 Mar 2018 23:40:00
Fantastic post redfaith!

11.) 19 Mar 2018 02:35:45
Yes jred and only City are above us in the table. City started with a squad that was way better than ours and was massively underperforming. I think our squad was about the level at which it finished under LVG.

I don't think you can compare the likes of Herrera to David Silva in terms of talent. Rashford/ Martial are nowhere near Aguero's level. Kompany is better than every defender Jose started with. Fernandinho is much better than any defensive midfielder Jose had. KDB is much better than any midfielder Jose started with. That's a great base for Pep to build on. Why do you think he went to City instead of us? We are a year or two behind that squad.

How many players has Jose actually bought? The spending is totally distorted by the fees for Lukaku and Pogba.

Pogba - A mistake imo. Massively overrated.
Mkhi - mistake, shipped out.
Lindelof - Getting used to the EPL. Improving slowly.
Zlatan - Short term fix. Worked well for a year.
Lukaku - Long term fix. Performing well.
Matic - Playing well.
Bailly - unlucky with injuries. Absolute rock when fit.
Sanchez - Has barely had 2 months. Too early to judge.

So I would say about a third of his signings have worked out, a third could go either way and a third have flopped.

Why is it that you see Jesse Lingard and to an extent Lukaku and Rashford always pressing defenders but Martial never does it? All of them have the same coach. Valencia has good positioning but Shaw always disappointed. The constantly dropping back instead of pressing to me is much more to do with desire and character than tactics.

Smalling's distribution is piss poor and it hampers the entire attacking structure. We've made some players sound like world beaters who've just been performing badly because of the manager when they're actually quite average. Some of them have gone through 3 managers now and are still just as bad.

12.) 19 Mar 2018 02:56:46
Well said redfaith. Well reasoned post.

13.) 19 Mar 2018 06:22:28
Great post redfaith.

14.) 19 Mar 2018 07:35:42
Red faith - just to play devil's advocate, why would you want to change these rubbish players whose achievements you list or is every success down to José and then when the fans complain about results / tactics its the players fault. Who picks Fellani, who picks as some say the overweight Shaw, who chose to change a successful team against Liverpool for the Sevilla game. You say Smalling's distribution hampers the whole attacking structure, yet José thinks he offers more to the team than his own signing, Lindelof.
Some posters point out that during a 'normal' season we would be challenging for the title, are our players really as bad as some make out. Yes we need changes but I don't buy into the wholesale changes some advocate. For me our failings are a mix of both the players' and manager's faults.
You mention transfers, something I remain unconvinced about with José and think that his record with us is questionable at best.

15.) 19 Mar 2018 07:40:11
Have a word Jose sets up the team they play as he wants.
It's not the school yard, they work on how there going to play who there up against what positions they take up depended where the ball is on the pitch .
Jose has bought 8 players or more to the point MAN UNITED have bought 8 players . Take bailly Jose had little input in to buying him .

A third of our new signings have worked out? So 2 thirds haven't 2 out of 3 . That's pretty poor.

16.) 19 Mar 2018 07:45:51
This season.
Sanchez poor
Lindelof poor can't get in the team ahead of smalling *who gets dogs abuse in here . But is ahead of lindelof
Bailly been injured most the season like Jones.
Miki sold
Pogba shadow of the player he should be
Ibra awful played 2 games
Matic done well
Lukaku done well .

It's a team game and to suggest that it's only the players who were at the club before Jose is nonsense .
2 players signed since Jose come to the club have done well this season.

17.) 19 Mar 2018 07:47:29
Tony, what have you started? Can if worms comes to mind haha. My opinion in mourinho is that he plays rubbish football but somehow gets results. However, we're at the counting part of the season. Every result matters from now on. Will we beat Spurs at Wembley? Will we go there to offer an attacking threat or will we play the same rubbish and lose. Spurs are not Seville. They're much better than Seville. So it'll be interesting to see what happens.
On the player front Redfaith, city had invested better than us, that's a given. They also don't spend a lot on one player but they buy a lot if very good players at good prices. However, mourinho has been here 2 years and in that time, we needed two full backs which he has not sorted (city bought three in one window) . We needed another commanding centre back alongside bailly, not sorted (city bought Laporte) . We needed a winger or two, not sorted (city bought Sanè and Silva) . And most importantly, we needed a midfield and that's definitely not sorted.
So what has mourinho done to warrant our appreciation and respect. He's bought mkhytarian who flopped badly. He bought Pogba who was a world star at Juve and is now flopping terribly. He bought lindelof and he's been below average. And he gave Zlatan a new contract when it is clear the guy is finished. Matic, lukaku and Bailly are the successes. I could have told you that matic and lukaku will succeed as they're PL proven bailly was a good buy. So more than half his expensive purchases have flopped. I'm not mentioning Sanchez here as it's too early to judge.
The way the players are performing does not fill any of us with hope. It is mostly a collection of expensive players playing like strangers. Is that not the manager's job to get them to play as a unit? When mourinho holds a press conference, he insults the fans, the club, the owners, the management, the refs, the press, the medical staff and his own players. He also comes across as extremely thick and lacking in any common sense or clarity. So if the same applies to his tactics and man management, then is it any wonder the players are confused and disillusioned? Is it any wonder the fans are bored and disinterested?
It's one thing supporting the club and another supporting the manager in his actions. I support United passionately and will do till the day I die, but I cannot support a manager who is clearly out of touch and who is harming the reputation of our beloved United.

18.) 19 Mar 2018 08:40:03
Lets see what happens in the summer
I hope to see ibra fellaini and carrick leave/ retire
Im also hoping that at least 5 of the following are shown the door. Smalling blind darmian shaw jones herrera mata martial rojo.
I hope that valencia and young become occasional starters covering for new signings.
Ideally i would like to see tuanzabe tfm and mctom in the 1st team squad and 5 new signings
Rb lb cb (depending on out goings) cm×2 rw
Dont care if the signings are big names that cost a lot or if he signs players that cost little. The criteria must be that they fit the system and managers demanding style.
Preferably i'd like to see a couple of proven winners with good big club experience with the right mentality come in along with a couple that want to prove they can move on to the next level.

19.) 19 Mar 2018 09:19:34
Good post AAA. Ken, at last; I think we agree!

20.) 19 Mar 2018 09:23:08
Dont see what the summer has to do with how the team performs in the present .

Fellaini is a interesting one why would anyone want to get rid of a player the manager would like to keep?
Rojo? We have just given him a new 4 year deal which would suggest the manager is happy with him . So again why would anyone want rid of him .
Surely he must fit the managers system.

21.) 19 Mar 2018 09:39:33
Aaa. Pep got the support from tge board to clear the decks completely and replace all the aging under performing players in 1 go.
He could not turn zabaletta kolorov sagna clichie navas nolito fernando ya ya ieanacho managala into the team he wanted. Their board supported him fully. If all those players were still there city would be like they were last season.

Ed002 has said we tried and jose wanted 2 get 2 new full backs and a cb last summer. But they would only spend so much and the board would not allow him to purge all the players he wanted to release.

This summer he must be allowed to do that.

When was the last time that valencia young shaw smalling jones rojo fellaini herrera darmian blind etc enertained you all here 3 4 5 plus years. These guys are not capable of doing that just like the city players pep sold and replaced.

I agree that the football is poor but no manager could get those above to entertain you. A couple of them have a title under fergie but were bit part players at best during that time.

Your right jose needed them replaced. He identified that but has not veen allowed or ed woodward fsiled to secure the replacements. Ed002 has told us that.

Do you really think he has not told the board they need replacing. Of course he has. He is not to blame for the fact they have not been.
As i said above let's see what happens thus summer. I don't nor does anybody expect us to play like city if and when that happens. But the style will be better considersbly ove no doubt about that.

The most succesful manager in our history abused tbe board and owners and threatened to sue them until he was but back in his box. He served several suspensions for abusing refs both during games and in post match comments. Our revered ex club captain ripped into supporters for their lack of vocal support. Jose has said nothing really that most managers don't say at some point.

Lots of people are frustrated me included but i think we need to give jose the support he needs. Lots of players been failing for years. He knows that he wants to do what city did last year and clear the decks. Until he does that this squad will go nowhere just like city's squad went nowhere last year.

22.) 19 Mar 2018 09:59:12
So Jose wants rid of fellaini and rojo?
Wanted rid of Valencia? A player that he has made captain and if fit plays .
People don't rate smalling but Jose rates him more than lindelof every game .
I think people get mixed up with what they think should happen and what the manager actually does .
Sanchez pogba lukaku martial etc and a no other manager could get more out of them?
Why is it always pep this pep that? Ranier won a title with a far worse squad than this .

Conte won the league with a team that Jose had 3 points of relegation . They never bought 10 new players they got a manager that could get the best out of the players he has .
If Jose is going to be successful next season he will need to get the players he has, regardless who they are playing

Pogba and Sanchez are top players 100% but no good if there not playing well .
Make no mistake if them 2 alone where playing well this would be a better team to watch .
But it's just excuses over and over again .
Lindelof was going to sort cb out
Pogba was going to sort cm out
Sanchez was going to sort the attack out .

23.) 19 Mar 2018 10:02:54
I agree with pretty much all the things u say ken as do many others, clear out players that haven't done much the last few years, get new faces in and get the fullbacks flying forward to give us more width the thing I don't get though is u back the guy giving the players u want out new contracts, he also looks as if against anyone decent the fullbacks aren't given much liscence to bomb on unless we are behind and he selects the very players who haven't hit the heights like Fellini and smalling over his own buys. I like yr ideas ken I'm just not so sure the guy u back is the one that will implement them .

24.) 19 Mar 2018 10:03:40
Lot of teams in the league play better footy than United .
With half the resources and players we have .

25.) 19 Mar 2018 10:09:24
Nail on head pal.

26.) 19 Mar 2018 10:17:54
You confuse me jred. Yesterday you posted jose has done nowt (i think that means nothing where you come from) wrong. Doing ok. Yet you then slate him and many players at every given opportunity. I think you are a complete wind up merchant or else suffer from mutltiple personality disorder. 😂😂.

27.) 19 Mar 2018 10:20:14
Slate, i think its a means to an end at the moment. that's what i'm hoping anyway. 😂.

28.) 19 Mar 2018 10:22:22
Conte won the league with the players jose won the league with at chelsea i don't get your point.

29.) 19 Mar 2018 10:41:40
I think Jose great at deflection Ken we lose to a team badly Seville that most thought we should beat so Jose then goes into a rant implying the players he inherited aren't as good as others so blame the last guy and it's not Jose's fault, but he duznt mention about 130 millions worth sitting on the bench who weren't selected because he picked the very players he's implying were left to him who aren't good enough ahead of them . If pog and lindlehof had played would have been harder to blame previous managers signings. He picked the team then used it as an out.

30.) 19 Mar 2018 10:46:38
So slate says he doesn't think jose is the man to bring us forward i respect your opinion slate. Jred says you have hit nail on the head so agrees with you i assume (but nobody can be sure) but yesterday posted he doesn't think jose shold be fired and is 'doing ok doing nowt wrong'.
So if you agree with slate that jose is not the man to take the club forward but you still don't want him fired because he is doing ok. What is is you want jred? You agree he is not the man but don't want him fired so do you want everything to stay the same? Its an interseting viewpoint pretty unique.
Some want him fired some want him to stay and finish the job but not at all surprisingly you are singing both hymns😂😂😂😂 now that's comedy gold.

31.) 19 Mar 2018 10:35:48
I've said over and over again ed1 tried to tell you yesterday this is just Jose doing what he does.
He is doing nothing wrong other than being Jose why are people surprised?
He is doing what many people said he would before we signed him, it's why a lot didn't want him .

You confuse what you would like to see with what the manager actually does.
Slate hit the nail on the head .

Jose managed to get a team of hazard and co 3 points of relegation .
He won the league getting the same players to play well.
Conte won the league getting them players to play well.

That's what he and any manager needs to do . The rest is just excuses .

You don't rate Valencia the manager made him captain and plays him, you raved about lindelof but want rid of smalling . Jose picks smalling over lindelof
You've gone on and on about selling fellaini manager has backed him .
Want rid of rojo we just give him a new contract .

32.) 19 Mar 2018 11:07:42
I think I want pretty much all the things you'd like to see happen to happen ken they all make sense to me I don't dispute any of the things u want, I'm just not so sure Jose will do them that's all.

33.) 19 Mar 2018 11:32:04
Im hopeful slate. 👍🏼 we will know this time next year.

34.) 19 Mar 2018 12:02:34
I feel a lot of the criticism toward Pogba is fairly harsh. He was instrumental in the success we had in the early season, he came back from injury flying, picking up a MotM performance against Newcastle and played a big part in destroying Arsenal before being sent-off. It's here I believe there is an issue. Since he came back from suspension, he's not put in the same kind of performances, the red card felt severe, was more likely a booking. After that sending off, his competitive edge has lacked, almost like he is afraid to be physical, which is a big part off his game. Maybe this shows signs there are issues with his personality, and that he wasn't able to pick himself up from that, but judging the player's ability, on a part of the season, rather than the season as a whole, seems unfair (after all he's still rating our highest player over on WhoScored, and that cannot be down to his latest performances) . Without that suspension, there's no reason to believe he wouldn't have continued churning out fine performances, but I feel that red card has hurt his confidence a lot and it feels as if he is questioning himself more, pulling out of challenges more, not being as aggressive or competitive.

35.) 19 Mar 2018 12:15:50
Josè has spent a lot of money and we set up against a very average Sevilla, like we were playing Barcelona under Pep at the Camp Nou defending a 2.0 lead. Truly embarrassing and the manager got it very very wrong. These are the tactics a massive underdog will play. They were the underdogs, not us. Jose has been slammed by the media and rightly so. You could tell by his lame 12 minute rant that he knows he got it wrong. Sadly this will continue under Jose, wrong manager long-term for us. But probably the best stop-gap option that was available. He's already falling out with players and we seen this at Chelsea. Imagine being Sanchez, Pogba etc and being told to defend all game. Not to push forward and protect a 0.0. I said the same when we played Liverpool last year. They were there for the taking and we were cowards playing a cowardly manager's cowardly tactics.

I'm hoping we can get our stability back and then employ the correct manager who plays the way we play. Pointless buying the likes of Sanchez when we are not letting them flourish. Such a Pity.

36.) 19 Mar 2018 12:31:53
We scrape a lot of wins. When was the last time we played even once like City and won convincingly? It's not like we don't have the talent in the team. Imagine Pep with the likes of Martial, Rashford, Sanchez etc. There are fractions within MU who know Jose is not the right man. But issue is the guy they wanted is managing our neighbours. Playing proper football.

37.) 19 Mar 2018 12:39:41
I'm not picking anyone out but over the last few days posts herrera is now a surplus player. The player that most on the site wanted as this seasons captain. I admit he hasn't been great but he also hasn't had a run of games. I always persoanally feel he's one of the players that makes himself a nuisance for the opposition. Chases everything and puts a shift in. what's changed.

38.) 19 Mar 2018 12:51:31
Again your stretching in a vain attempt to prove a silly point .
Slate hit the nail on the head when he pointed out that all the things you want aren't the things the manager (who can't do any wrong in your eyes ) Is actually doing .

39.) 19 Mar 2018 14:20:02
What are u talking about can't do any wrong in my eyes.



10 Jan 2018 01:45:35
It seems Red Man is stuck in 2010-2013 and unable to come to grips with the present.

The Glazers are at fault for United's fall from grace post 2013. But "no ambition" and "not spending enough money" are absolutely not the reasons to justify that statement.

The reasons are the following :
1. Ineptness to manage the transition post Ferguson.
2. Letting Sir Alex choose his successor
3. Appointing two poor managers (and perhaps a 3rd unsuitable one too) who were never right for the club.
4. Allowing Gill and Ferguson to go at the same time.
5. Not appointing a Director of Football to work with Sir Alex in his last couple of years to have a long term transition plan already in place once he leaves, where the DOF would have been involved with the board to buy players to fit a particular philosophy and appoint a manager after Ferguson who fit that philosophy.

Its not "ambition" or "spending" that's the issue but mismanagement and a clear lack of experience in managing transitions between managers and long term planning that's the issue. The reason for that is clear as well. Its because they never had to do it while Ferguson was around. He was the DOF himself and managed the football side of the things. Transitioning between managers, having a process to search for a new one was never required. Other clubs do this regularly and are already experienced with it.

THAT is their fault. They've spent the money and have shown the ambition but they appointed the wrong men to invest it and didn't have the proper structure at the club in place to imolement it. That's where their fault lies and they should be blamed for it. Perhaps not getting the likes of Txiki at the club is their biggest mistake.

So Red Man. Please stop with your relentless agenda. Its gotten a bit boring and your assertions contradict the evidence. We've spent more than enough to show ambition. The numbers don't lie.

Its clear to me and most people on here that you simply make your conclusion and later try to fit evidence into it. You made up your mind on Moyes even before he had officially started. It was the same with LVG. You clearly fawn over Jose while most are pretty ambivalent and do agree that he's been a bit hit and miss and has made mistakes but you see pretty much no wrong and are barking up the wrong tree of spending. And you've had your mind made up about the owners and seem to see a lack of spending and ambition even though the evidence doesn't support your conclusions.

P. s. It seems to me that Jose doesn't want Sanchez. We've bought far more expensive players than him in the last 4 years on comparable wages. Not going for Sanchez has nothing to do with the owners but Jose preferring a different player. Sanchez and Malcolm are today to you what Pastore was back a few years ago. I remember you moaning on here for days. A player whom the manager wasn't interested in but suited your agenda of beating the drum of "lack of spending" and "ambition".


1.) 10 Jan 2018 05:15:40
Couldn't agree more, excellent post.

Poor decision making top-bottom and flittering money away all the while. We have missed a golden opportunity to pull away from the competition. Wasted opportunity infuriates me more than anything.

2.) 10 Jan 2018 06:30:03
Very good post. In fact this should be pinned at the top of this page for a while.

3.) 10 Jan 2018 06:40:46

You make some good points, ones which I have made on here before, but you have summarised them well. However seem to spectacularly misunderstand ambition.

Most if not all clubs have ambition, but it is the level of ambition that differs. Teams in the championship have ambition, to get in the play off, be promoted. Teams in the premier league relegation zone have ambition to stay up, mid table teams to improve, get to a European place, the top four.

There are teams whose aim is to TRY to win the league and or a cup.

Then there are teams who want to dominate, win European cups, Madrid, Barca, Munich, PSG and now City. They don’t talk about cost, they have an aim, an ambition to dominate in their own leagues but in Europe as well. I do not see that in us.

What I do see is the ambition, the burning ambition to maximise the asset value whilst trying to show ambition to win the big trophies and that is the next level, albeit small level down to the big boys and now even to City, it shouldn’t be. If we can have the best asset value without being the best team why spend more is what seems to be the view

Do get your facts right on lvg, for me it was not the same as with Moyes, I had not “made up my mind before he started”. Moyes yes, knew it would be a disaster but lvg I have had stick on here recently for supporting him, do check before making sweeping statements.

4.) 10 Jan 2018 09:00:24
Red Man what a lot of twaddle. That is blatantly just twaddle, twaddle, twaddle. Choices where made they didn’t work out.

Red faith has not questioned the clubs ambition one bit but has only questioned why you keep beating a boring old drum. This club will always be ambitious, it is ingrained in the DNA of its traditions although LVG did has damnest to play that down because he couldn’t hack it as manager, now Jose is sailing on the same boat.

One thing Maze does agree with you in though is you did sheepishly follow LVG and claim that he was a major success over Moyes. Again though that is nothing to be proud of because LVGs stint at United was a shambles.

5.) 10 Jan 2018 09:56:00
Redman what level are you talking about, let's city for eg as you seem to love their owners. Last season they bought sane, gundogan and bravo when likes of Neymar, pogba and keepers much better than bravo would have been available. Are they penny pinchers too, fact is guardiola's buys have worked out a lot better than mourinho's.

Had it not been for atletico getting a ban we would have spent as much as city did, it isn't the Glazers fault that mkhi turned out to be a dud or that ibra lasted only a season or lukaku being a ftb they paid for what Mou wanted. Yet because you love mourinho he can't be blamed for anything.

6.) 10 Jan 2018 11:19:46
Good post Red Faith you make some excellent points but I also agree with Red Man. Now bear with me and I will attempt to explain why.

There is no doubt the Club has spent heavily since Fergi retired but think of this. The season he retired we finished as Champions. The Club appointed Moyes on a 6 year contract but our only summer signing was Fellaini in an embarrassing deadline day fiasco! Call it Woodward's inexperience, incompetence or a combination of the two that was a pretty disastrous first transfer window especially with a new manger at the helm. I have no doubt that Moyes gave the board his lists of targets and them failed him spectacularly. They approached that window with the same naivety and arrogance as previous ones and why spend money when you've just won the league by 13 points? Well what about trying to win the Champions League! That's the ambition or lack of it that we're talking about!

Moyes reign was equally as bad at that first window which ultimately set the tone for a manger and chairman hopelessly out of their depth. This has now cost the Club millions trying to remedy.

For the Club to remain marketable, attractive to investors/ sponsors and profitable we must be playing Champions League football. Whilst the Glazers know nothing about football they know business. An extended spell outside the top 4 would be disastrous for our revenue streams.

Call me cynical but this is my view on our spending. For the Club to get back into the top 4 they realised they had to invest in the squad and I can't argue that they haven't done this. Now Jose can't argue that he hasn't had money to spend. He has. But given the fact that City already had a superior squad has he been given enough money to first of all bridge that gap and then make us better? I'd argue not! He delivered in his first campaign, won us two trophies and got us back into the Champions League. Now this is my point about ambition. This was the summer to go again and really back Jose in the market. He stated that he wanted at least four players. If truth be known he probably wanted more but even Jose understands Glazernomics!

The board didn't deliver on even his minimum requirement whilst City spent well over £150m on three full backs and a goalkeeper, addressing their weak points and significantly improving their squad. We haggled over the price of Perisic and we missed out. In my opinion they decided we were back in the top 4 and didn't see the value in spending £50m on a player in his late 20's. Where have we heard this before?

City are 15 points clear at the top, they have one foot in the final of the League Cup yet are still aggressively pursuing Sanchez, one of the best players in the league to make them even better knowing that he could come for free in the Summer. Would our board in this position do the same thing? That is the difference in ambition we're taking about.

One Club wants to dominate whilst the other is content with their position and continues to search for value in the market!

Why as fans should we not want our Club to spend money that has been generated by our own means. If it's not spent on transfers then it's only lining the Glazers pockets and I know which I'd prefer. Come on chaps if we want to be the best then surely we've got to spend like them!

7.) 10 Jan 2018 12:33:53
And every one laughter at city overspending on overrated players.

But city are playing so now we have to spend more more more .
Even tho we have spent a very large amount of cash .

I wonder if city hadn't spent as much if our problem would still be we haven't spent enough?
Strange thing is if you listen to the sharkpod United's main target is savic who is going to cost mega cash . Yet we have no ambition because we haven't signed Sanchez?

Maybe the club have a plan, have spent a lot of cash, are going to spend a lot more . But they don't want Sanchez a player that doesn't seem to want to play for United and will be 30 next year .

Maybe want bale or griezmann or someone like that .

Is the issue the club doesn't spend money, doesn't sign players or is it the club hasn't signed the players certain fans want?

I know we are a full week in to the January transfer market and all our rivals have bought the best 10 players in the world .
But come on boys keep your chin up, we should stay up this year ;)

8.) 10 Jan 2018 13:01:37

Good points

Let’s not forget that Woodward said in 2013 that the team didn’t need any significant Re-tooling. How was that level of ambition comparable to being the best in the world? Ok we won the league but didn’t get near in the UCL and then he delivered Fellaini.

9.) 10 Jan 2018 13:02:19
That is a great post Danny🙌🏽. You have summed it up perfectly and I think the difference in ambition is clear to see between our owners and city’s owners. One wants to dominate football and create a dynasty. The other is happy with being back in the top 4 and making huge profits on sponsors. I think we can all agree there is not much difference in ambition between pep and Jose. But one is being backed to the hilt and the other is being backed but not as much as he would like. Interesting times because in the premier league we seem to be the only side that can stop city dominating for years in my opinion. Chelsea have a good squad and team but their transfer policy has changed and they will not go out and back Conte the way city do with pep. We really have to get the right players in this summer otherwise we will be left behind. We need to match the manager’s ambition and if we are unwilling to, then there is not point him being here in my opinion.

10.) 10 Jan 2018 12:53:40
Dany moyes was an inept idiot, moyes who decided to play FIFA with his targets like wanting ronaldo and bale and fabregas who we knew had no chance of signing rather than signing likes of thiago which utd had already done the groundwork for.

And in the same vein as you said we have spent 160 million on 3 mf's in last 3-4 seasons and by the looks of it are willing to chuck 100 million more on another one, pep wanted a defence mourinho wants a mf nothing earth shattering to it. City are pursuing sanchez but even they seem to have put in financial constraints to what they will spend on him in jan.

Everyone keeps mentioning perisic as if he would have solved what ails us right now, his stats in Serie A this season are 20 apps 1800 mins 7 goals and 6 assists to Martial's 11 (9) apps 919 minuted 7 goals and 3 assists in epl, how exactly would he have improved us, if anything we would have been worse off given martial will actually improve in future while this season and last season have been perisic's best ever performances since his days in the belgian league.

11.) 10 Jan 2018 13:43:06
Totally agree Park!

CSM - The point about Perisic is not if he is a good player but rather the manger identified him as a key target and the board didn't deliver. There can be no doubt that the Club didn't want to pay the asking price probably due to his age. The board didn't fulfil the mangers minimal requirements and we should be asking why not? He probably wanted another LB, CM and back up RB is a perfect world. I think even Jose understood this was unrealistic it he expected them to deliver his targets. How do you propose that we over take City if we're not even prepared to match their spending? We either want to be the best or we don't! Yes money can be wasted and mis spent but without it your left hoping for miracles. Just look at Spurs. Potch has done a great job but there a million miles away from winning anything and won't get anywhere close unless they change their philosophy. They'll do well just to keep hold of their players never mind improve their squad. Don't forget Pep won nothing last season and he's spent another small fortune getting the players he wanted. We shouldn't fool ourselves unless we're prepared to at least match the likes of City and PSG then our glory days will be few and far between. Do we want to be the best or not?

12.) 10 Jan 2018 14:41:44
We should of just spend 50 million more on pogba lukaku and lindelof then we would of spent more than city .

As for perisic maybe inter didn't want to sell or the club simply didn't think he was worth the asking price? Or do we just pay any amount of money that the club ask .

What if we had bough perisic and he got injured first game of the season? Would that if been our title challenge over right there, because he is that good .

What if we do some really good business this summer and identify some really good players that don't cost 150 mil each . Will every one be up in arms because we haven't shown any ambition .
Let's hope Jose doesn't give one of the kids a chance, when he could just be spending 60 mill on someone else . Can you imagine the lack of ambition then .

Seems it not about the player we buy but the amount he costs.

13.) 10 Jan 2018 14:58:17
We have also added lingard and Rasford to the team . But they didn't cost anything so don't seem to count.

14.) 10 Jan 2018 15:40:29
I think the issue with us not going for Sanchez is that he predominantly plays from the left and we already have Martial but more importantly rashford.

I think Jose is well aware of what would happen if he got rid of Rashford to accommodate Sanchez.

Lukaku is always going to play and therefore the only spot that Rashford gets a look in is wide left as on the right he is less effective.

Martial is the better player, but because Rashford is a local kid and considering our youth traditions I think Jose feels that Rashford has to play. If Sanchez came on board that wouldn't happen nearly as much because then you would have two players in Rashford's two positions that are better than him.

15.) 10 Jan 2018 16:11:57
Danny do you think fernandinho and an injury prone gundogan are what pep wants as his mf's or are his favorite cb's stones and otamendi, he seems to have adjusted to it well enough.

Also utd seemed happy enough to spend 89mn on griezmann may be it is mourinho who needs to pick who he wants more carefully, because in no world can you go from no 3 on Balon d'or award list to perisic that's like going from Ronaldo to Valencia and we know how that went. This back the manager come what may has lumbered us with likes of darmian, blind and rojo, perisic would have only added to that list.

16.) 10 Jan 2018 17:53:46
Hi all its Mike you favourite Moston Red

Okay I’ve read a lot of what's been put on here over the past few days and feel the need to speak

I get your all up in arms at the moment, over let's face it the bile churning prospect of them lot winning the lot. The Glazer blame brigade are out in force again, yawn yawn yawn. The blame everybody apart from Ferguson etc brigade are out in force again, I could go on and on.

We are second in the league, would we be bringing the Glazers in to it again if Chelsea were top and running away with it like they were last year, Probably not. The fact of the matter is Guardiola’s philosophy appears to have clicked all of sudden with the acquisition of full backs who have sensational recovery runs in them. This is exactly what they lacked last year with Zabaletta and Kolarov not up to it. They’ve blazed a trail that none of us could match. Not just Jose, I’m talking Klopp, Conte, Pochettino etc. Anyway enough sunshine blown up their you know what.

January. What serious business is done in January, other than the odd sensation here and there. We signed Mata that year on the back of the embarrassing transition and transfer window in Summer 2013. I don’t realistically expect anyone to be brought in, but you never know. It can upset your squad as we know. We all remember the Asprilla signing at Newcastle that year.

I get sick of hearing about City are leaving us for dead etc. Well if they are we are not on our own. United has an infrastructure that is up there with the best there is. We have state of the art training facilities, that were there long before the Emptysad Campus in Beswick. They had to spend billions to just get near us in that respect and will have to spend more to get near us in terms of honours.

I think a lot of people here are emotional wrecks at the minute over nothing. Manchester United are a very well run football club, that makes a lot of money and money has been proven over the past few years to be spent. You can’t level that at the owners. They have probably spent close to Citys and Chelsea’s owners.

We are not going to win the league every year now its over, get over it. City won’t win it every year or Chelsea or Liverpool etc. I was glad we won the cup in 2016 and the trophies we won last year. So if we don’t win anything this year, we won’t be the only club.

Jose is no fool and it’s a brave man or woman who thinks otherwise. We lost Pogba for important periods this year and any team losing him, it would have a big impact. He’s back fit now and there are still 2 trophies to win as well as a top four spot to play for. We may yet finish the season with our cheeky grins in tact.

17.) 10 Jan 2018 18:47:43
in all honesty, should have gone for Giggsy instead of Moyes. Moyes I feel tried to do way too much too soon with the back room staff for example and this backfired. I feel Giggs would have tried to maintain as much as the same structure Fergie had in place. to make matters worse they went for LVG straight after and he was a total let down. The sad state of affairs is Mourinho is still stuck with LVG's deadwood and I think he summed it up from day one where he said he wished he started from zero instead of the squad he had inherited.

18.) 10 Jan 2018 20:54:05
Maze -Mazey- Maze you my fella are wired up in a different manner than the rest of us . You wouldn't look out of place in Royston Vasey you looney I'm guessing with some of your posts 😆😆.



11 Dec 2017 19:58:16
Why aren't we focussing on the positives and how far the team has come since Jose took over?

Lingard looks a good player, Martial has started to settle in and so has Lindelof, Rashford is playing well too. It looks like we might keep De Gea now and Lukaku's linkup play has improved a lot since his Everton days. We're 2nd in the league and I can see us making the UCL semis.

That's great progress by Jose from where he found the team. He's addressing each problem area one by one.


1.) 11 Dec 2017 20:23:42
We also have a good defense now with Bailly and Lindelof both comfortable on the ball. We know Jose wants to bring in a new left back with Sandro and Danny Rose being linked. He also wants a midfielder or two. Milinkovic Savic and Carlos Soler, both highly rated young players are the ones we seem to be targeting. He has clearly identified that we need a winger too as the interest in Perisic shows. The ed has suggested that we might replace Zlatan with Lewandowski at the end of the season.

I'd be happy with those 4-5 signings. We need to look at the malaise Moyes and LVG left us in while we evaluate progress. People keep bleating on about defensive football, yet this team is much better than last year and way better than LVG's 70% possession 0 chances created borefest. I quite like the counter attacking style and most people before the City game would have said we've played well this season.

Its going to take a few more signings for Jose to have the squad he needs to perform at a high level consistently and not be overly dependent on Pogba in midfield.

2.) 11 Dec 2017 21:22:20
You see the glass as half full, some see it as half empty. Take Sterling as an example. He is currently in the form of his life and we can only surmise that is down to his Manager. You name some of our players playing well although Lukaku is stretching it a bit. As for Martial, Shaw, Miki, is it not up to Jose to get the best out of them? Martial has been very inconsistent, Jesse has had bright moments but not a run of them. Herrera has regressed, Lukaku currently looks out of his depth. The feel of the club isn’t great and that’s because bolshy Jose seems to want to find an argument all the time.

Last year we were 6th and struggled against ‘lower’ teams. This year we are comfortably second so that is clear progress but it doesn’t always feel like it. I guess the stats speak for themselves, 2nd highest scorers and nobody has conceded fewer. The next window or two will be critical but I don’t see that Rose or Perisic take us to the next level.

There has clearly been some over reacting to Sunday’s defeat but take a step back, like it or not, City are setting the standard right now both on and off the pitch.

3.) 11 Dec 2017 22:16:15

Jose has made Martial a better player imo. His positioning and timing has improved and he also works harder defensively now.

Lingard whenever he plays CAM plays well imo.

Lukaku's linkup play is much better than at Everton. Everyone is talking of Sterling but it took pep a year and a half to get the beat out of him. Surely Jose deserves that much with Lukaku?

City's defense is not better than ours. We have the better keeper. And you can argue that we have the better strikers or its evens.

Where they beat us hands down is midfield quality. De Bruyne, Silva, Gundogan, Bernardo Silva, Sterling and Sane coming in centrally are all better than what we have. Only Pogba can make a case to get into their midfield.

But since midfield is where games are controlled from it seems as though they are way better than us, when in fact we have the better keeper, the better defense and probably a better attack too.

If we buy a couple of midfielders, maybe a winger and a stable left back I'm sure we can go toe to toe with them.

4.) 11 Dec 2017 23:32:22
I’d rather have Aguero and Jesus than Lukaku and ibra.

Ibra was a waste of sub every game so far.

5.) 12 Dec 2017 09:55:07
Martial, Jones, Pogba, Fellaini, Young, Valencia, Lingard, Rojo, Herrera (last season) all massively improved under Jose.

Shaw is a busted flush and needs to be sold. Lukaku will come good and Rashford is young and inconsistent. Others don’t seem to either have the right attitude or just aren’t good enough. Miki, Darmian etc.

6.) 12 Dec 2017 10:55:32
Eric, I'll give you Lingard and Young, but the others?

Martial improved on his first season? I still think he'll turn out to be a class player, but I wouldn't say he's improved since his first season, though I do expect him to improve no matter what manager comes in. Jones and Rojo are good players, who haven't been able to show their true worth, due to injuries and/ or being played out of position. Fellaini has been played all over the place since he was bought, limiting his effectiveness at times, together with the ridiculous way he was treated by some so-called fans. Valencia has been a good, solid player for years, but improving in the last one and a half seasons? And by your own admission, Herrera has gone backwards this season.

Just think you're stretching José's powers of improvement a wee bit there, mate. I also still believe Shaw is going to be a top left back, either with us or another club.



11 Dec 2017 16:53:59
Some of the "Balance of power has shifted" posts seem a bit over the top and a bit embarrassing to me. City are simply a year further along in their project than we are imo. We need a midfielder or two, a winger and maybe a full back but the rest of the team IS solid.

We have the wingers and strikers to hurt any team out there, its just a matter of having a midfield that can get the ball to them. Our defense is solid too and we have the best keeper in the world.

The last 3 years have produced 3 different winners in the League. We're the closest to City right now and with a couple of additions in midfield and maybe a winger we will be just as good. We will address those areas in the next couple of windows.

The team is showing inconsistency right now without Pogba and we are too reliant on him in midfield.

Some of the posts about Lukaku too are getting embarrassing. What was he supposed to do feeding on all those scraps? His linkup play was excellent against Arsenal.


1.) 11 Dec 2017 17:42:46
The first half we were too defensive but once City had scored I thought we were the equal of them. All 3 goals were the result of blunders, and, unfortunately for Lukaku both of the ones we conceded were pretty much down to him. He was beaten to the header for the first and it was his clearance that led to the second. Besides that there was no better build up or chance than the one he missed from point blank range. So, I really don't think anyone can argue against the idea that much of the blame for yesterday's loss, if it has to be assigned, would be fairly put at Lukaku's feet. I'm sure he will be thinking the same. And if top players are judged by their performances in top games then Lukaku didn't stake his claim yesterday.

At the moment he seems to be so intent to blast the ball that he's sacrificing the awareness and finesse that's sometimes needed in front of goal. He's probably trying too hard. Like Pogba I expect him to have a better second season than first.

Looking at the penalty claim, I don't think it was stone cold, but it certainly could have been given.

Overall 0-0 or 1-1 would have reflected the game fairly based on the number of golden chances created, rather than conceded, by the two sides,

2.) 11 Dec 2017 18:49:07
Redfaith. City came to old Trafford and played us off the park. They had 75% possession. These stats are what United get when we're playing some 3rd division side in the FA cup. Are you seriously suggesting that we're close to them. They're 11 points ahead of us and it's the 11th of December for God's sake.
They play controlled football while our lot just boot it up there and hope for the best. You say we're short of a winger a left back and two midfielders. I'll add a tricky striker to that. And that's 5 players which is half an outfield team. They started planning this in 2012 while we've been messing around for the past 5 years.
Like every great empire, we got complacent. We thought we can bring in Moyes, a humble man who can be ruled by Woodward and the owners and everything will be fine as we'll finish in top4. The stupid and arrogant plan misfired spectacularly in their yank faces. They then panicked into getting lvg when everyone knew is past his best. After a boringly predictable outcome he got sacked. And now we have Jose, intent on playing outdated football with ultra defensive tactics that have only resulted in 3 wins against our top rivals in 13 attempts.
Are you seriously trying to tell us that by this time next year, we would have improved sufficiently to compete with the top teams? I don't share your optimism.
I do agree that the criticism of Lukaku is over the top. The supply to him is non existent.

3.) 11 Dec 2017 18:49:29
Sorry Shawthing but you were watching a different match to me and most unbiased fans, football journalists and pundits. I speak as a passionate Utd fan but have to say well done City. They were by far the better team yesterday on chances created possession and the way they played.

4.) 11 Dec 2017 19:56:19
They had 65% possession and yet how many clear chances did they create? Our downfall was poor defending at set pieces, not City's supposedly amazing football which produced precious little even though they had so much possession.

The reason they had so much possession? They had a better midfield! Hence we need to buy a midfielder or two to help us get control of the game.

Had we had Pogba in the team and gone with a 4-3-3 they would not have had the spaces to play in that they got.

When City's wingers tuck in along with a 3 man midfield it makes it very difficult for a midfield 2 of Herrera and Matic to control the game. It was obvious they dominated possession. It doesn't concern me that they did.

What concerned me was that we didn't transition into counters quick enough. Smalling and Rojo aren't good on the ball and that makes it difficult along with a just two man midfield to being the ball out hence the clearances rather than patiently building the game.

5.) 11 Dec 2017 20:53:11
It saddens me a little, that we depend so much on one midfielder.

6.) 12 Dec 2017 06:53:56
One midfielder that is just as likely to have a poor game as a good game - sums us up, we've built a house of cards and the key card is a massive gamble every game.

He has had more poor games for us than good ones as well, so who knows which Pogba would have turned up had he been available! It's no excuse, they had 3 very important players not playing we had one!

7.) 12 Dec 2017 14:57:11
Beast, we were also without Bailly and Jones, probably our best defensive pairing. City have much better depth than we do largely because they have been following a plan for some time now whereas we have been either resting on our laurels or downright confused for a decade, and consequently misspending large swaths of cash on players that don't gel. Had we been in for Salah and Morata, rather than Lukaku, and another top class creative midfielder, I think we would have been right there with City at this juncture.

I do wonder whether we are approaching the time when Martial and Rashford might be our best alternatives up top.




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11 Dec 2017 20:09:26

No. They kept possession but created precious little in clear cut chances. I aspire to be like the United aide of 98-99 or 2006-2009. Which not only had possession but also created chances and was absolutely deadly on the counter attack.

I would love to be like Jose's Real Madrid which score 100 goals in a season and was amazing to watch on the counter with pace and power. We have the forwards, defense, a winger and a keeper to be that good. All we need is a midfielder or two help us dominate more and take the pressure off Pogba.




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07 Jul 2017 22:22:01
I honestly don't care who he goes to. If we sign him, great he's a proven goalscorer in the EPL and will add something to the team.

If Chelsea get him we can sign someone like Morata and move on.




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14 Jun 2017 05:38:51

Wasn't the other club that was interested in Matic? If so, have they found someone else they are going for or have they backed out due to a high asking price?


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You might want to head over to the Madrid page and check Ed002's answer to my question.




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16 May 2017 11:19:58
That's nothing new. Ed002 mentioned this months ago and said its unlikely to happen in the recent sharkopod.





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19 Mar 2018 22:44:23
Jose is talking about his time at Madrid. Yes and Antonio Valencia was different player when Jose was at Real Madrid. More direct and an excellent crosser. His game has changed since his injury against Bayern and his crossig is poor now. He didn't try to sign him when he was at Chelsea recently did he? He didn't try to sign Fellaini or Rojo there either when he could have but chose other players instead.

If you want quotes just look at the most recent one where Jose says he is not happy with Valencia's attacking but admits he is solid defensively. i. e. he sees we can do better but he is playing him as he is his best option.

How do you know he would try to sign them NOW if they were at other teams?




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19 Mar 2018 22:01:03

I have far from red tinted specs. I don't think Jose has been flawless and I clearly point out some of his mistakes like buying Pogba, sticking to a 2 man midfield etc. But I fail to see if any other manager in the EPL bar Guardiola would have done better. He has made mistakes but others have made far more.

If you are saying we can replace Jose with Pep right now I would bite your hands off but that ain't happening. When I look to other options they don't seem very appealing to me and I am not sure anyone could come in, suddenly change the style of play AND win.

The grass isn't always greener on the other side. Allegri's style is far from attacking. Carlo's league record is sketchy. Poch is yet to win anything. I am skeptical Jardim can translate his results from the French league to the EPL.

Many are clamoring for Pochetino yet he's won nothing and his team rely heavily on Kane. One must remember that Klopp has made some terrible transfer decisions before getting a couple right with Salah and Firmino. He too has won nothing yet and is even further behind and the defense at Liverpool is still poor.

I look at what Jose has inherited and where he has got us. I don't see why United should sack a manager who is 2nd in the league and in an FA cup semi final. If we are to do that we would be changing managers every 2 years.

I never expected Jose to come in and play "The United way" whatever that means. I expected him to get results and bring back some confidence and winning mentality and making some tough decisions (like getting rid of Rooney instead of "how to get the best out of Rooney") .

For all the talk of style it was one bad result that's gotten everyone against him. The shutout of Liverpool where they created nothing at OT was completely forgotten. The comeback against Chelsea was forgotten. When the season ends, Pochetino and Klopp will have won nothing and finished lower than us in the league.


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19 Mar 2018 22:27:40
Martial needs to perform more consistently and show more hunger and movement on the pitch. He drifts out of games far too often. He is good centrally and can be used as a backup striker but he does not have the presence and physique to be the main striker (like a RVN or RVP) nor does he have the sublime skill of an Aguero for the lack of physicality to hardly matter.




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19 Mar 2018 22:25:33
Great post Park3lung. Its very difficult to find a combination of both style and trophies. City have done that with Pep but the others have not.

I would take a trip to Wembley and a 2nd place right now to Liverpool's style but no substance (lost 4 pts to us this year. Created nothing at Old Trafford) . Would anyone want to finish 4th and win nothing like Spurs?

All I want right now from Jose is to keep making the tough decisions and leave a good squad for when he goes and instill some belief and character.




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19 Mar 2018 22:07:24

Don't twist my words. Jose would not buy a Fellaini, Rojo, Valencia. But he would keep them as squad players if he has to choose which players to keep based on their attitude and work ethic because he can't ship 10 out and buy 10 players as it would completely destabilize the squad.

Would you sack a manager who is 2nd in the league, in an FA cup semi and got us into the knockout stages of UCL after 2/ 3 years not even being in the competition? This is our best league position since Sir Alex left.

Only Pep has done better and we ain't getting him.