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12 Feb 2018 00:42:20
Have been hearing repeatedly since he joined that Jose needs 2/ 3/ 4 windows to turn us into a top team again. So which of his signings so far can we categorically call a resounding success? Not many I dare say.

One thing I cannot stand above anything in an elite level footballer is a lack of football intelligence. And I must say there seems to be a severe lack of grey matter in our team. Whether it's the players or the coaching or a bit of both, we look a yard off the other top teams in terms of ideas, movement, slickness, composure. Somehow it feels we can continue splashing money but the approach and tempo won't change.

Rave

1.) 12 Feb 2018 06:47:21
"severe lack of grey matter in our team"
Precisely. 100% agree.


2.) 12 Feb 2018 11:33:52
I think we have had varying degrees of success from all of Jose’s signings to be honest. Until about 2 weeks ago Pogba had been our best player this season, he has a couple of bad games (I think he was ill yesterday anyway) and suddenly he’s an awful signing.

We are missing Bailly a lot at centre half, I would like lindelof to get a go to be honest, lukaku has improved his game a lot, Matic is having a bit of a bad spell hit at the start of the season everyone was raving about him. We aren’t playing well but don’t think we are far off to be honest.


3.) 12 Feb 2018 12:00:03
Sometimes I wonder about the intelligence displayed by our players, the simple things like passing to a player in space seems beyond their logic, they seem more comfortable passing a three yard pass to a colleague that is surrounded by three or four opposition players.


4.) 12 Feb 2018 21:58:07
Picking out the main signings:
Bailly- class centre back when playing, looked a great signing last year. Been out as much as he's played, but that's just bad luck.

Pogba - under the negative spotlight now but even when his stock was high earlier this season he still had a massive question mark over his big game credentials for me. Misused by Jose or is he simply coming up short when it matters?
Zlatan - no one can argue with his goals contribution last year but would have to go down as a two-thirds season wonder for me, and that's accounting for his terrible injury. Resigning him was a joke.

Matic - started off superbly but I'm struggling with him. Is he knackered, is he being overused/ overworked, or is he simply past his best in terms of being the midfield rock over a full season?

I can't see him getting better next season, or the one after.
Miki - got rid as soon as we got a chance. Wrong player for this team and manager.
Lukaku - although I never wanted him and still don't, I've felt for him of late, as he's worked his socks off and vastly improved his link play, but gets next to nothing in terms of the right service. Not the right striker for us.

Lindelof - for a manager like Jose who goes out of his way to prove his decisions right, it amazes me how little faith he's shown in this guy, even with the smalling and Jones double act on show. Question marks.

So, how many more windows?


 

 

 

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18 Jun 2018 23:51:00
Much needed result for England, a nice change from the regularly disappointing opening result.

It was much like watching United at times and that was largely down to Young doing lots of nothing in the final third.

Right now there's an 80% chance of Young and Valencia being our starting full backs again next season, which is slightly soul destroying if I'm honest.

Rave

1.) 19 Jun 2018 08:32:14
According to the commentary and pundits it was the best football so far seen at this World Cup, world class and like City of last season 😂 oh and that unbearable Russian heat 😂.


2.) 19 Jun 2018 09:59:00
First half they played well.

I agree Young is a frustrating, but he did lay a certain goal on for Lingard who fluffed his lines by stepping backwards to shoot rather than stepping in and heading home a sitter.

In a back 5 i think you need a player who can go down the outside and cross, that is not Young.


3.) 19 Jun 2018 10:37:08
The balance seems off with young at left wing back. Call me old fashioned but I prefer to have my left back left footed and right back right footed. When rose played against Costa Rica he provided good width and stretched the opposition defence. Young cuts in too much and it’s obvious what he will do. He can put in a decent ball but not enough. Think rashford, Loftus Cheek and rose should replace sterling, alli, young for the next game.


4.) 19 Jun 2018 11:24:18
Sterling was terrible, he should of been taken off from the start of the second half. Loftus Cheek made a massive difference when he come on as did Rashford. I think Loftus Cheek has to start in the next game. I would also bring Rose in for young and swap Walker over to fullback.
Pickford
Walker Stones Maguire
Trippier (Henderson or Dier) Loftus Cheek Rose
Ali Rashford
Kane.


5.) 19 Jun 2018 11:55:01
Welsh. Bitter, much? :)


6.) 19 Jun 2018 12:04:07
I just love how the range of bias is from best we’ve seen at the tournament to excuses like the heat has been underestimated. Ken’s team could get through that World Cup group lol.


7.) 19 Jun 2018 13:54:28
Not just commentators.

On here yesterday.

Belgium cruise to a 3-0 win.
Beast - that was absolute dog s**t.

England look like a somewhat decent team for 10 min.
Beast - strips off to pants, and starts doing the John Barnes rap.


 

 

07 Jun 2018 20:46:34
Almost the exact moment Rashford scores a cracker for England, stories emerge that Jose is prioritising a new backup striker to Lukaku over a left back.

Could be total bull, but if any truth in this, there'll be even less chances for two of the best young striking prospects in the country next season.

And just as bad, it gets more likely that Young and Valencia will be our esteemed full backs again next season.

Rave

1.) 07 Jun 2018 21:04:19
Amen brother. Rashford struggles under Jose but looks a completely different payer when playing for England. Bear in mind Jose has won everything and Southgate is a novice. Must be a Rashford’s attitude I guess.


2.) 07 Jun 2018 21:21:15
Maybe because its international football.


3.) 07 Jun 2018 21:36:39
Or maybe attacking players do better when they're given the chance to attack?


4.) 07 Jun 2018 21:45:36
End of season hysteria. We will buy a new LB just give it time.
Also Rashford is looking good for England as he did at the start of the season but he is still young and will have his ups and downs.
I think Jose rates him and over Martial. We won't buy another striker other than a top line support striker in Bale or Griezman. RW the priority.


5.) 07 Jun 2018 22:22:37
I still prefer him at left back to be honest #injosewetrust.


6.) 07 Jun 2018 22:25:12
19 appearances for England 3 goals that's just worse than 1 goal for every 6 appearances with no registered assists. Of course he has just better than 1 goal every 4 whislt playing for united.
The fact he plays well albeit a little inconsistent for united is why he is in the england squad. i'm sure southgate would like to see more of his club stats in front of goal.
Stats can be misleasing but it is a decent indicator that he scores more goals and makes more goals per appearance for united than he does England.


7.) 07 Jun 2018 22:46:17
What's this Jose hates rashford.

He's the player who's played the most since Jose took over.


8.) 07 Jun 2018 23:06:48
That's the best I've seen him play all season .
Actually spent most the game in the opposition half .

But the lad should the potential he has if we was playing for a club outside the EPL people would want to buy him .
Because he is a United player some would rather sell him.


9.) 07 Jun 2018 23:20:24
Park. Are you impressed i stayed quiet on the subject? Rashford looks a world beater under Southgate but looks short of ideas for United. Must be coincidence 😂.


10.) 08 Jun 2018 00:56:51
AAA haha I am mate fair play 😂. Thought rashy was class tonight some of his touches were great to watch. Looked really good centrally with that freedom to express himself. Looks much better as a second striker with someone to play off. Credit where it’s due to Southgate he has played some really exciting youngsters with Alexander Arnold and loftus cheek also impressing. I think you are right that it is no coincidence he has looked better tonight as jose’s Tactics have stifled our creative players. However, sometimes context has to be taken into consideration. Let’s see how he performs against one of the bigger boys.

Not taking anything away from him or Southgate though because it’s been a long time since I have enjoyed an england game. I don’t see why we cannot just praise rashford without always have to come back and bash Jose. Can the two not be mutually exclusive? Or are we always going to bash the manager when one of our players puts a good performance in during the World Cup? Don’t really think it’s necessary tbh. But anyway I’m impressed you kept quiet on the topic mate 😂.


11.) 08 Jun 2018 05:12:21
Sorry but did i just read England play attacking football? And Southgate is an attacking manager getting the best out of Rashford as he scored 1 goal? Brilliant stuff.


12.) 08 Jun 2018 07:23:19
To be fair to Southgate, he’s gone about his job in a very structured and impressive manner and has a good young side playing well.


13.) 08 Jun 2018 07:59:05
Thanks park. Joking apart, Rashford was excellent last night. He was given a free role behind vardy and he did very well.


14.) 08 Jun 2018 08:41:20
Spot on AAA. Eric I agree regarding Southgate. He wasn’t the flashy name or the experienced manager that people were hoping for. But I’m starting to think that will work in his favour. England have gone down the experienced and successful route of Capello which ultimately failed. Again the old head of hodgson failed miserably. They have gone for a younger manager who by all accounts wants to build an identity and style of play for England to move forward. He also seems to be popular with his players and appearances to have good man management skills. He’s not the most experienced but I think he is doing a really good job. Perhaps gone are the days where the England job is given to an old head as their last job before they retire. Perhaps we should be giving it to young and up and coming managers with the hunger and desire, who are more in touch with modern methods? Think this could be a solution for the FA.


 

 

11 Mar 2018 11:01:46
Great result, great spirit shown by the lads.
Objectives for rest of season:
1. Consolidate 2nd place. Anything less would be a huge disappointment now.
2. Win the FA cup. A trophy is crucial considering the league became a procession far too early.
3. Reach champs league semi final. And see what happens. Need to be professional on Tuesday which I'm sure we will.

Rave

 

 

11 Dec 2017 09:44:57
Had a look at the goals again and is it me or could DDG have done a tiny bit more for one if not both of them? He appeared slightly planted, in shock that the man got to a free scoring position three yards in front of goal, rather than take action. I reckon some keepers would have rushed to smother both the ball and the man about to hit the ball.

DDG is awesome and my favourite player in the team so it's hard for me to criticise him, but he isn't the most aggressive keeper in situations like that. Not to excuse the terrible defending/ failure to easily clear our lines on both counts, where he was badly let down.

Rave

1.) 11 Dec 2017 10:45:17
Maybe, he could of maybe he couldn't. It's swings and roundabouts. If he was a more aggressive keeper then no doubt that would lead to him making mistakes occasionally due to him rushing out and not assessing the situation in a calm and clear way.


2.) 11 Dec 2017 10:46:30
They were tap ins from 3 yards he had no chance with either.


 

 

10 Dec 2017 15:40:23
Jose has indeed gone for a bold team selection, three attackers!
Massive role for Lingard today to supplement the middle as well as making the transitions to attack.
Glad Herrera is playing, feel this could be the game his season really kicks off.
The start is so important, need to get onto their defence, the two centre backs not the quickest.

Rave

1.) 10 Dec 2017 16:16:16
Rave, Herrera was brilliant last season but seems out of form this season. Hope he doesn't get himself sent off. If he hits form, then we'll beat City.


 

 

 

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19 Apr 2019 10:58:27
Very interesting thanks for the info Ed.

Must admit I know little or nothing of many of those which, considering our recent transfer record, might actually be a good thing! I just want a new wave of hungry, up and coming players in our team.

Sell anyone who has doubts about staying and taking on the huge challenge of turning us into contenders. Or those that want to stay but are total rubbish.

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10 Mar 2019 08:42:51
Nice one Ed. Have a good one.

Rave

{Ed001's Note - you too Rave.}


 

 

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10 Mar 2019 01:07:29
Thanks Ed001 - read with interest and I strongly agree. We have pace in behind but really only pogba with the vision and accuracy to pick out a runner (although I feel he could do with quickening it up at times) . Having a centre half that can pick a pass or drop it into space would be a real weapon.

Agree that DDG is the best keeper in the traditional mould, not one of the new breed of sweeper keepers.

I finally have some confidence going in against the 'lesser' teams that we will get the result. It's against the top teams that I really don't know what we'll get. I feel we need players in defence to midfield that have both quality on the ball and the ability to do things quickly, especially in those high pressure, high tempo games against the Citys and Pools.

Rave

{Ed001's Note - at least now they are giving their all, which is a huge step forward.}


 

 

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09 Mar 2019 13:27:09
Ed001 would be v interesting to get your thoughts on how you think United wish to play, as mentioned above.
And from that, what you think we need to do with current players/ in the transfer market to make it work. Thanks.

Rave

{Ed001's Note - the club wants to have the option, not necessarily to use it in ever game like but the quality at the back to play out from the back. Hence why Lindelöf was brought in. It does not really mean in the way say Brendan Rodgers thinks of playing out from the back though. With the passing it around the back four that you find with his teams, with no penetration. It is having a centre back, like Luiz or van Dijk, that can change the point of attack with a ball in behind an opposing defence or out to a wide player high up the pitch.

You do need another centre half with quality on the ball, none of Smalling, Jones, Rojo or Bailly really have the ability to pick a pass. Other than that, you are not really that far off in terms of a team. It is more about improving on what you have, rather than needing to replace them, buying better versions or improving them through coaching and experience.

The thinking is that De Gea is not the best with his feet, so you can't really go with the really high line and press high on a turnover, except initially. You don't want a big gap between defenders and keeper, as he is not that comfortable racing off his line to clear. But stats analysis suggests the best way to create chances is on quick attacks on turnover (the so-called transition), whether it is from the break itself or a setpiece won on the break. So you have the pacey forwards to play in behind, but you need the ability to pick them out from defence or you lose valuable moments playing the ball into midfield for those quick balls. Every moment lost allows a defence to prepare, against a quick attacker that usually means they are dropping off and so reducing the space available for a midfielder to play the same pass.

It is not about being defensive or becoming a counter attacking team, it is about adding another attacking outlet, for those times when you are not in controlled possession high up the pitch. The expectation is that you will dominate possession in most games but, when it matters in bigger games against opponents that can have as much possession as you, then you need that extra option, even if it just ensures that opponents can't commit to the attack as they would like, because they are wary of a ball in behind.}


 

 

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20 Jul 2018 18:04:33
Neither am I Eric.
Also not looking for any argument. To be fair that Jurgen Meister was the biggest tool.
Agree Valencia being our captain and first/ only choice right back is quite as uninspiring as it gets.

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22 Apr 2019 15:26:11
Shappy- respect mate for taking the time to write these insightful posts. Great points.

On the point of pre season being so important, this makes it even more vital that we don't end up in a Europa qualifying round in July. Wouldn hardly be ideal for a full blown rebuild.

Then again the European football supremo that is Mick Phelan as technical director wouldn't be ideal for a rebuild either. Another vastly under-qualified Fergie favourite being given such a key role would mean this club still hasn't learned anything.

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22 Apr 2019 10:27:17
I sincerely hope not. A man whose contacts consist of Sir Alex Ferguson on speed dial 1 to 5, followed by Ole and his local butcher. Also the No.2 that oversaw us playing arguably the most unattractive football of the Fergie years.

Ed is bang on that it would be the last laugh. Please tell me this is not a possibility.

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19 Apr 2019 11:24:52
Bloody hell i thought the situation was dire already. I know one is supposed to back the English teams in Europe, but sod that for a laugh.

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14 Apr 2019 20:57:25
Spot on DLIB.

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03 Jan 2019 22:22:03
Good to see the race is back on!

Very good game to watch and have to say the level and tempo was a step above.

Just look at what the scouse fullbacks did for their equaliser, and their positions for a start. Then look at Tony Valencia.

Rave