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23 Sep 2018 00:43:22
I can see massive improvement in the team, with lots of our moves being 1 pass away from being great. I think in the coming weeks, provided Mourinho keeps the faith with what is emerging as our best 10/11 we are going to get a lot of goals.

Roonbest61

1.) 23 Sep 2018 13:49:47
What you been on? Give me some.


2.) 23 Sep 2018 14:56:06
Stay off the glue Roon.


3.) 24 Sep 2018 09:28:19
Roon,

You're wrong mate, we dropped points in our first game in 4 against a decent side, we are useless again, the whole team needs selling and the manager should be sacked.


4.) 24 Sep 2018 11:00:59
Gds do you actually believe that our performances have been good enough?
If this was 5 years back then it would still be OK but with our rivals like city and pool dominating matches, I don't think it's an overreaction if the fans criticize the team. Even in the matches we won, we never finished off the opponents. We were always on the backfoot and if it wasn't for DDG, it could have been a lot different. There's an over reliance on the keeper which is not a good thing and our attacking play is just pathetic. The only way fans console themselves these days is if the other top teams draw a match ( while dominating it) .


5.) 24 Sep 2018 13:48:10
Maybe I'm a touch optimistic but I think our play has quickened and if Sanchez can find form (or gets replaced), lukaku too, starts doing what he does best we are going to score more goals. Shaw has been great and Fred for me adds energy and quality. Key is sticking with more or less the same 10/11. I may be wrong and if I am I'll hold my hands up.


 

 

22 Sep 2018 22:06:38
So frustrating. Thought we played as well as we have in the last 5 years today. We are not getting much luck at the moment too. I was asking for mourinos head few weeks back and I also said pogba could do 1 (mostly cause he won't just come out and say he's happy) . But I'm delighted with how we played today and I feel someone is getting punished soon.

Roonbest61

1.) 23 Sep 2018 04:58:49
If we didn't have DDG we would have been out of the game in the 1st half itself.
On the subject of punishment, fans are getting that week in week out. The players will just go back and enjoy without any remorse while being paid hundreds of thousands of pounds for producing such a " great performance". Whereas the fans who have religiously followed the club for their whole lives and it actually brings them true happiness if the team even puts in some sort of effort will be left frustrated and waiting for the next match in hope that these overpaid footballers will " punish some team ".


 

 

 

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08 Sep 2018 14:09:44
Is it better long term for players from South America to go to a porto/ wolfburg/ Bilbao as opposed to a utd/ barca/ Bayer? As in they get a decent contract at the feeder club and then an even better 1, plus huge signing on fee if things go well (obviously game time would be easier to get too) . Is this method more tried and trusted now amongst the 'Maybe superstars' rather than going to a big club and trying to shine there.

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{Ed002's Note - Porto takes in Brazilians as there is less of an issue with culture, language etc.. There is no chance at all of South American players going to Athletic Bilbao. Wolfsburg have Willaim on their books but do not take players from South America on a regular basis - although the did try and buy a Brazilian and a Uraguayan from European sides this summer. Manchester United tasked Javier Ribalta with improving the scouting in South America but he has now left the club and moved to Zenit St Pete. Bayern Munich tend not to have an interest in taking South American players although they did have an interest in two Brazilians this summer - but one was playing in Portugal and one in England. Barcelona are at the maximum number of players they can have with adding a Brazilian from a Brazilian club this summer - and had to move Yerry Mina on to make space. I don't really understand your question.}


1.) 08 Sep 2018 15:25:02
Pretty sure bilbao only have basque players. With the odd exception am I right 002?

{Ed002's Note - Yes RW.}


2.) 08 Sep 2018 15:32:15
Porto, wolfberg, and bilbao are examples of a club size. I could easily have said sporting, hamburg and deportivo. Again utd, barca and Bayern are examples of the biggest clubs.

{Ed002's Note - I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about I am afraid. Hamburg and Deportivo de La Coruna are second division sides and are don't as a rule take players from South America. Whereas the likes of Barcelona do - Athur, Neymar, Romero, Mina, Roberto.... and they have all done well.

As such I just don't get your point.}


3.) 08 Sep 2018 16:06:00
My guess is the OP is asking about players moving to the likes of Porto because it’s maybe easier to get a work permit?


4.) 08 Sep 2018 17:45:36
I think what the OP was asking is

"Do agents of South American players target moves to perceived medium sized European clubs as a sort of stepping stone to a larger European club? "

So as to get players settled in Europe at a club with less media attention and pressure, with the intention of getting them a deal with a larger more prestigious club a year or two down the line.

Much like how a large number of Brazilian players have found themselves at Shakhtar Donetsk before moving on to clubs like United, City or Bayern as Fred, Fernandinho and Douglas Costa have done.

{Ed002's Note - Agents hawk their players around to the wealthy higher profile clubs in the first instance. For example, Kia Joorabchian has spent the summer hawking Corinthian's 20 year old Pedrinho around European sides, initially trying to get the likes of PSG, Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs to fork out €50M when he might only be worth a fraction of that. After that failed he turned to perceived gateway clubs such as Ajax, Porto and Benfica - also to no avail.

In terms of Shakhtar Donetsk, Lucescu got the ball rolling when he arrived about 15 years ago and the club has a scouting structure in Brazil second to none - where they work with clubs, agents and the Brazilian youth and junior sides to find the players early and then when they are old enough, 18, to take the best to the Ukraine. Fernandinho, Willian, Fred, Douglas Costa are all examples of players seen to be very good and taken to the Ukraine when they were between 18 and 20.}


5.) 08 Sep 2018 17:59:04
Okay. Is it better, career wise, financially too, to struggle for game time, force your way into a squad and eventually, the starting 11 at a club like utd.

Or join a smaller club and get game time and hope for a big move (pay day) to the big clubs? (For South American's)

{Ed002's Note - The leading sides will take players they think are good enough regardless of nationality and regardless of age. But clubs have to work within certain restrictions, such as the Spanish clubs are limited to the number of players they can have who are not EU nationals or covered by the Cotonou Agreement or Kolpak ruling hence Barcelona having to move Yerry Mina on to fit in Arthur. Some countries have quotas which are game based rather than squad based (e.g. Ukraine limits non homegrown players on the pitch to seven etc.). So there is no hard and fast guidance. Barcelona moved Arthur to Spain when he did to avoid him joining a Premier League side, he was never going to end up playing in Portugal or anywhere else - Barcelona wanted him right away.}


6.) 08 Sep 2018 18:34:10
Cheers ed, so in summery the big clubs still get first refusal (if it fits with quotas, restrictions etc. ) . But in a lot of circumstances it just works out that a spell at a smaller club proceeds a move to a larger 1.

{Ed002's Note - It is not really a first refusal, but some clubs have very good scouting set ups in South America.}


 

 

28 Aug 2018 13:03:04
He's just all wrong for us, always has been and most deep down don't like him. He gets some sympathy from me as the media/ pundits jump on him at every opportunity, but even still that sympathy is short lived as he always asks for it in one way or another.

There has to be a better fit for us out there?
Chopping and changing is not the best way forward but can any of us really see him turning it around? ?

Roonbest61

1.) 28 Aug 2018 13:39:24
It's not just the manager. yeah he is mostly to blame with his negative approach which rubs off on the players

But some of them players are a joke.

No passion
No leadership

I've seen more passion on a meat market

Few of them need dropping and repacling with players who want to play dodnthey shirt and not there banks.


2.) 28 Aug 2018 14:16:11
Yes there are many factors to blame, player recruitment not good enough, ed suddenly closing the check book, mourinho not fully committed to Manchester etc etc but how many times has a crises like we are in been turned around with massive changes? Not many I think.


3.) 28 Aug 2018 18:35:08
2 defeats is hardly a crisis.


4.) 29 Aug 2018 07:30:22
Problem is City lost only 2 all last season so can anyone see us going the rest of the season unbeaten?


5.) 29 Aug 2018 10:21:38
I don't think anyone who's been watching us over the last few seasons, really believes it's only because of the last two games.


 

 

 

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24 Sep 2018 13:48:10
Maybe I'm a touch optimistic but I think our play has quickened and if Sanchez can find form (or gets replaced), lukaku too, starts doing what he does best we are going to score more goals. Shaw has been great and Fred for me adds energy and quality. Key is sticking with more or less the same 10/11. I may be wrong and if I am I'll hold my hands up.

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19 Sep 2018 21:03:15
Cheers ed, he does seem like a Nani type on YouTube.

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19 Sep 2018 15:37:31
In your opinion ed, is he worth a punt? (I have no info on him beyond you tube) and if so, how much do you expect him to cost the buying club?

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{Ed002's Note - No, the feeling of some who have looked at him is that the English game would not suit a player interested primarily in tricks. You can see him end up in the stands on a regular basis. I would rather stay away from the finances for a while on the MU pages.}


 

 

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16 Apr 2018 21:11:57
Seems a genuine lack of top top quality available. i'm Thinking Jose's tactics/ inspiration/ man-managment skills next season will be more important than recruitment if this is what we have to choose from.

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12 Mar 2018 10:02:41
Let them have their delusion. It'll mean they will never focus on the real issues. We on the other hand find fault in everything, openly, and this is why we will always have higher standards/ success.

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20 Sep 2018 15:57:39
Found 1 on the match page (hadnt even noticed it b4). No wonder no post on the banter page after a win.

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20 Sep 2018 09:02:59
I posted and it never went up. A positive post too. as for Liverpool I think that they are playing well, getting all the luck, but they are not scoring the amazing goals they were last season. The wheels will come off, Chelsea are a better team imo and they too will hit reality soon. City are actually human and people are seeing it now. We may not be spectacular, but with how solid we can be, adding in the genuine pace of Fred and Shaw ( dalot and martial also but they won't start every game) we may surprise a few.

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08 Sep 2018 18:34:10
Cheers ed, so in summery the big clubs still get first refusal (if it fits with quotas, restrictions etc. ) . But in a lot of circumstances it just works out that a spell at a smaller club proceeds a move to a larger 1.

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{Ed002's Note - It is not really a first refusal, but some clubs have very good scouting set ups in South America.}


 

 

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08 Sep 2018 17:59:04
Okay. Is it better, career wise, financially too, to struggle for game time, force your way into a squad and eventually, the starting 11 at a club like utd.

Or join a smaller club and get game time and hope for a big move (pay day) to the big clubs? (For South American's)

Roonbest61

{Ed002's Note - The leading sides will take players they think are good enough regardless of nationality and regardless of age. But clubs have to work within certain restrictions, such as the Spanish clubs are limited to the number of players they can have who are not EU nationals or covered by the Cotonou Agreement or Kolpak ruling hence Barcelona having to move Yerry Mina on to fit in Arthur. Some countries have quotas which are game based rather than squad based (e.g. Ukraine limits non homegrown players on the pitch to seven etc.). So there is no hard and fast guidance. Barcelona moved Arthur to Spain when he did to avoid him joining a Premier League side, he was never going to end up playing in Portugal or anywhere else - Barcelona wanted him right away.}


 

 

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08 Sep 2018 15:32:15
Porto, wolfberg, and bilbao are examples of a club size. I could easily have said sporting, hamburg and deportivo. Again utd, barca and Bayern are examples of the biggest clubs.

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{Ed002's Note - I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about I am afraid. Hamburg and Deportivo de La Coruna are second division sides and are don't as a rule take players from South America. Whereas the likes of Barcelona do - Athur, Neymar, Romero, Mina, Roberto.... and they have all done well.

As such I just don't get your point.}