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20 Mar 2018 00:19:04
Hi Eds - Just wondering if Utd are still interested in Carlos Soler and if you can shed any light on a potential deal?

The Beast

{Ed002's Note - There is interest but Valencia are not keen to sell.}


1.) 20 Mar 2018 08:01:42
Ed002, awhile back there was reports United was interested in another Valencia player, Jose Gaya. Is there any interest there is was it just click bait?

{Ed002's Note - JM was interested when he was at Chelsea, but I gues MU might add him to the list of LBs they are interested in.}


2.) 20 Mar 2018 17:55:07
Ed002, if you don't mind who is on that list of LB's and will Shaw move on in the summer? Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed - if Mourinho were to leave maybe Shaw will stay but right now he wants him gone and would like one of the following:
Danny Rose (LB)
Aaron Martin (LB)
Alex Sandro (LB) - I would strike him from the list now but don't be surprised if he reappears - it all depends on a player at another club
Philipp Max (LB)}


3.) 20 Mar 2018 17:56:26
Cheers Ed.


4.) 20 Mar 2018 19:16:36
Cheers Ed.


5.) 20 Mar 2018 19:31:12
I suspect that Philipp Max will end up at Bayern Munich if Alaba leaves. Ironically he looks like a really good left back. Just the kind I would like to see brought in. Young, talented and hungry with loads of potential.


6.) 21 Mar 2018 04:31:26
Ed2 are united looking at sessengon.

{Ed002's Note - there was interest when JM was at another side.}


7.) 21 Mar 2018 12:06:37
Huggy, allegedly Shaw is quite hungry, too :)


 

 

21 Feb 2018 23:45:43
I'm reading a lot of people justifying that pathetic performance. SAF played like this in Europe, Sevilla are tough at home, no easy games at this stage of the competition.

The thing is we play like this whenever we come up against a half decent team. Incidentally Moyes took us away in Europe and we played some great stuff, remember the guy that had no European experience?

Sevilla are not up to much, but we were lucky to escape with a draw tonight however you want to dress it up. They will be very dangerous at OT, far more dangerous than we were tonight.

Maybe it was like this sometimes under SAF, but only "SOMETIMES" with Jose it's every time. If we go out to Sevilla, it's because we didn't play to win tonight.

It would be nice to not read BS excuses to justify this rubbish we are subjected to almost every week. Maybe my drum is getting worn out, but the excuse bank is surely out of coin by now. It's just not good enough, we put up with a rubbish Europa League campaign to qualify for this by the skin of our teeth and then put in these types of performances! WTFP?

The Beast

1.) 21 Feb 2018 23:57:48
How many games did Moyes do us proud in Europe? Was it just the Leverkusen game or . No one is saying Jose is producing exceptional football bit my god the hyperbole in here is ridiculous.


2.) 21 Feb 2018 23:59:13
Goos post Beast and i reckon we houdlve gone for the kill today as i hope but Jose played it safe which is quite sad considering how poor Sevilla were today.

The players look scared to try something exciting ncase it doesn't work and jose gets angry.

They are all under strict rules by the looks of it.


3.) 22 Feb 2018 00:20:46
Made attacking substitutions the team just didn't click going forward.


4.) 22 Feb 2018 01:32:09
Weren't they like for like subs (Rashford/ Martial for Sanchez/ Mata)? It's not clicking because we attack with 3 men maximum, often just 2 - we have forgotten how to attack as a team as it seems our main focus is on keeping teams out, not making them keep us out.

It's anti-Utd and it isn't hyperbole if it happens virtually every time we play a team that isn't prepared to curl up and die.


5.) 22 Feb 2018 10:10:12
Couldn’t agree more beast. Went away yet again not to get beaten rather than trying to take the game to them. Nobody here can tell me man for man Sevilla are a better side than us, so why not attack them, why be happy with a bore draw? Anyone who things a nil nil is a good away score line is mistaken. A score draw not too bad, but a nil nil means we now have to win the return leg. Score draw and we’re out. Pathetic performance once again last night, nothing is inproving.


6.) 22 Feb 2018 11:44:57
Rubbish europa league campaign? You mean the one we won? Oh no we won a trophy but we didn't win it in this specific way that makes me happy. Are you aware of how spoilt you sound. You know this is why fans of other clubs hate us - a huge amount of us have got too used to success. We have to be practical we are still in a rebuilding phase. Yes a lot of money has been spent but the team needed and needs a lot of work. Short termism and harking back to the good old days do not benefit the club.


7.) 22 Feb 2018 12:56:33
Beast, you called it absolutely right. If De Gea hadn't made unbelievable saves, we will be looking at a 2 or 3 nil scoreline. I hate the passionless, clueless displays. I hate the lack of cohesion in the team. This result is not a good result, one goal for Seville and we have to score two. Even if we score first, we will still be extremely nervous.
I would say it is advantage Seville.
But the most ridiculous post i'd the one from 12daysofhemida. "A huge amount of us have got used to success", "We have to be practical we are still in a rebuilding phase", "Short termism and harking back to the good old days do not benefit the club". These are exactly the type of comments that drive me potty. How could you get too used to success? So shall we have a few years of rubbish performances as we don't want to be to used to success? Utter tripe. Then he mentions we are still rebuilding, we have been rebuilding for five years. A good business doesn't allow its performance to deteriorate, then start rebuilding. All the top clubs are in a constant state of rebuilding. Harking back to the old times? History is what defines you, and history is what you learn from and improve. So when you talk about harking back to the old times, you're basically telling us that we might as well throw away our history.
If you allow standards to drop and mediocrity to set in, then we might as well pack our bags and go home. That's not the philosophy of the club I've supported for over 50 years. we were built on attacking entertaining football with all the right values. Unfortunately, we are losing these values.


8.) 22 Feb 2018 15:03:38
Attack x3 you'd make a fine spin doctor.

"So shall we have a few years of rubbish performances as we don't want to be to used to success? "

The few years of rubbish performances HAPPENED under Moyes and LVG. Alongside that were rubbish results. No one was happy, myself included. Now Jose has improved RESULTS a hell of a lot. The performances (last night included) are still often poor. You cannot expect results and performances to be improved when the squad is substandard for a title tilt. Jose is improving us.

"we have been rebuilding for five years. "

Yes, that's just how bad we got.

"A good business doesn't allow its performance to deteriorate, then start rebuilding. "

I agree, but that is exactly what the club allowed to happen. Expecting five years of stagnation to be corrected in two years is unrealistic.

"History is what defines you, and history is what you learn from and improve. "

Once again we agree. history has shown us that sticking by a manager when we fans are calling for his head can be beneficial. Can you imagine what would have happened if the fans had been listened to with Fergie? Also whilst we're talking about history, here's one from Fergie, "Attack wins you games, defence wins you leagues. " I think that is what Mourinho is trying to do.

"So when you talk about harking back to the old times, you're basically telling us that we might as well throw away our history. "

Er. no. Just no. I can't even think of a witty, relevant or scathing retort to that. Sorry.

"If you allow standards to drop and mediocrity to set in, then we might as well pack our bags and go home. That's not the philosophy of the club I've supported for over 50 years. we were built on attacking entertaining football with all the right values. Unfortunately, we are losing these values. "

Let me see if I can do your putting words in other people's mouth shtick. so if we don't play well and win you we should all stop supporting Utd? Utter tripe, piddle and tomfoolery.

We weren't built on attacking entertaining football it's a philosophy we have played more often than not since the days of Busby. A style of play that I love and miss, but since Ferguson left that philosophy has been left behind, through poor appointments, mismanagement and NOW necessity. Our defence isn't up to task and so we need to play more defensively.

Whilst having a nosy around the internet, I found this description of Newton Heath in their first season. "Tough, diligent men who formed a powerful side. " Sounds a lot like a Mourinho side. Maybe we were built on stoic defending first, entertaining football second (like all good teams) .


9.) 22 Feb 2018 18:22:17
Great post 12 days.
Beast the performances are poor but its the players not the manager.
How many top class players in our squad?
Not even top class on the european stage top class in epl. Jose performing minor miricle to keep them competitive imo.


10.) 22 Feb 2018 20:34:16
Great posts 12 days. As good as I've ever seen on here to be honest. Great way of debating.


11.) 22 Feb 2018 22:10:35
Oh come on now, it's ridiculous. People are still plugging their same view week in week out.

The fact is, there are some very good and some not so good players in the squad. It's the same for the rest of the top 6 or so teams. It's the manager's job to get the best out of them.

If your idea of getting the best of them is by holding the better players back to set up defensively and grind out results, then we'll agree that Mourinho is doing well. If your idea of an attacking, exciting and progressive style of football is the way forward, then he's not the right man.


 

 

13 Jan 2017 19:14:26
Hopefully this Costa incident is the trigger for the much needed Chelsea collapse. Win on Sunday and everyone will be scared that we are coming for them.

The Beast

{Ed025's Note - my fear beast is that they may make a move for lukaku now, he would jump at the chance imo mate..


1.) 13 Jan 2017 20:52:24
We, I really don't rate Lukaku, I know he can sometimes bully CBs and score dramatic goals but generally he looks like a fat lump blundering around. Just my view of course.

{Ed025's Note - thats very nasty and short sighted of you AJH...but very true.. :)


2.) 13 Jan 2017 22:07:38
He's like that heavily made up blonde on a night out who looks very tasty until you get her into the light, beer googles at their most seductive.


3.) 13 Jan 2017 22:10:18
😂😂😂


4.) 14 Jan 2017 03:46:48
If costa is sold or even just has a falling out with conte, we really need to beat liverpool, as i was hoping and i think most utd fans will agree, if we aren't able to win the league it is better if chelsea do it rather than one of city or liverpool.


5.) 14 Jan 2017 11:16:54
Lukaku is perfect for Chelsea's system but he's no Diego Costa. I can't see them letting him go this January though although a summer deal makes sense.


6.) 14 Jan 2017 12:13:23
I know Costa is expensive but £80 million for a coffee is just ridiculous.


7.) 14 Jan 2017 14:26:04
I'm not sure about timing but I read that the Chinese are going to be clamping down big time on the money being spent by their clubs, as a means of capital controls (just doing it with Bitcoin now) . So maybe there is a major timing factor involved, possibly a one time opportunity for the start of their new season.

Possibly why the amounts in question seem so desperate and why Costa is trying to force a move now. Just speculating of course.


8.) 14 Jan 2017 19:56:59
Costa isn't trying to force his way out.


9.) 15 Jan 2017 01:30:24
i hope costa stays where he is (and stops scoring) because if he leaves they might bid for moussa dembele of celtic.


10.) 15 Jan 2017 13:36:29
hmm Jackson, who knows what to believe. Quite a coincidence we were only talking of something like this the other day. That said you still smashed Leicester and have a £30m striker rotting on the bench, so still need a few more spanners in the works to give us a sniff.


11.) 16 Jan 2017 19:38:40
Hope he stays. He's saved my dream team this season.


 

 

01 Jul 2016 17:29:56
I just read that Neymar signs a 5 year deal, but his buyout clause rises the further he gets into his contract, this seems odd to me is it odd?

It's almost as if they are telling clubs to come and get him now if they are interested.

Does anybody know what his buyout was prior to the new contract? It's now £167m for the first year, rising to 186m 2nd year and then £209 for the third), on the Beeb.

The Beast

1.) 01 Jul 2016 18:07:30
Not sure but this deal is pretty sensible from barca, with teams like palace throwing £30m at Marseille for that Belgian lad who knows how much players will be going for in 5 years, it's gone even more ridiculous this year.


2.) 01 Jul 2016 18:08:46
Beast I don't know enough about buy out clauses but it makes great sense for the owners as under normal circumstances the players value decreases as his contact runs down. It also means that they will be in no rush to Renew and give him another rise in order to uphold his value.


3.) 01 Jul 2016 19:34:13
Great points guys, hadn't even considered that in my haste.


 

 

10 Jul 2015 16:38:30
Hi Ed's - I am a regular contributor to the site as you may know. Several people ask about a fantasy football league each year and I have been part of one for the past 4/5 years, I can vouch for the credibility of it. I didn't want to post on the website without your permission first, this is what I want to post, do you mind?

"I am part of a dream team league, ran by a chap called Andy. I have done this for the past 4+years and it works a treat. You pay £50 upfront and each month there is a prize for manager of the month, the remaining money goes into a pot for the top 3 managers of the year - all registration fees are redistributed to winning managers. I have personally won a few managers of the month and have been paid appropriately. This is just a group of guys coming together and nothing formal/company orchestrated, so if you want to join the league the code is 90970-25762 (it is the Fantasy Premier League). Andy will provide you with his acct details if you join and over recent seasons we have had over 50 people in the league – it was primarily a group of friends but I have asked him if he would mind me opening it up to my “banter buddies” and he has no problem so long as it causes him no issues"

The Beast

{Ed002's Note - Sure, no problem.}


1.) 10 Jul 2015 17:24:08
Super Beast, Might join you on that .


2.) 10 Jul 2015 19:35:39
Now I'm confused yesterday someone was going to setup a FF competition for the lads all here at no cost, I think that £50 is a tad steep especially when in euros it's 70 or more for your one Beast.

Now I'm not a tight git but I try play the FF gig and more times than not forget to change players etc, as I get caught up in stuff at home or within family homes doing repairs etc so miss a lot of the tactical changes lol!!

If we were to set up a MUFC page FF competition and at a cost of €20/25 I would enter it no problem


3.) 10 Jul 2015 20:02:09
Pyramid Scheme!


4.) 10 Jul 2015 23:10:25
We had one for free last season, not sure who set it up but we had over 70 people in it from this website.

The one I am talking about has cash aspects attached so obviously won't be for everyone. I throw in £50 with this guys league because if you win a manager of the month its normally £80-£100, then £1k or so to overall winner.

Horses for courses, I just put it out there as some people were asking and I have always been paid on time.


 

 

 

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07 Oct 2018 08:28:41
Well that second half was a nice turn up for the books.

Obviously the first half went pretty much how most games have gone this season, Newcastle were just pretty clinical and still missed a few. We just drift through matches like a lost soul.

Our plan second half was to attack and although it was all 'off the cuff' as the commentator said, it was still enough to come back and beat a demoralised Newcastle. It makes me wonder how good we could really be if the manager just said 'go and beat them' and stopped focusing on trying to out-think the opposition when we are far superior.

I think with poor teams like Newcastle the manager should rely on our natural quality and stop with the 'tactics'. Against top class opposition maybe Jose is suited, but 90% of our games are against teams we should beat. So maybe give him a break those weeks and let the lads plays without his shackles and bizarre decision making. Bring him back for the big dogs?!

Maybe Sanchez was his 'Robins moment', but I am very interested to see how we start the next game. For all the plaudits Jose is taking for the turnaround, he has to be held accountable for the fiasco of that first half - what was going on in a routine home tie against relegation fodder?!

LVG had a few of these false dawns that kept him in the role for another few weeks to our ultimate misfortune. Hopefully Jose does change his spots and learn from this, but that is hope rather than expectation.

Glad to see some heart, some edge of the seat drama and a quality fightback, life in the old squad yet. If Jose isn't removed, then please let this be this spark that changes everything, brings everyone together and we approach each game like we are 2-0 down against one of the worst teams in the league at home.

The Beast

1.) 07 Oct 2018 09:18:09
The problem is that the next game is Chelsea away which we are likely to lose anyway, if we go there and try and attack we will get hammered so I guess it depends what people want.

I have a feeling this might not be a turning point but he must be given the chance to show that it is now and prove that the players are behind him, imagine we go and win at Chelsea, who knows what the season holds then.


2.) 07 Oct 2018 11:13:01
I don’t mind losing as long as we go down fighting. Have a go, take the game to them. Not going to happen is it?


 

 

29 Sep 2018 12:33:27
Nice to see the manager putting out a team that indicates 'we fear you' again. What a joke, have we ever had a slower midfield. Just surprised he didn't put Mata in for Martial to really inject some pace!

The Beast

1.) 29 Sep 2018 12:37:24
Going exactly according to plan for Jose. Such a progressive manager.


2.) 29 Sep 2018 12:41:26
It's a disgrace people are backing this tool because Pogba complained about negative football and the need to attack.


3.) 29 Sep 2018 12:43:58
Same old rubbish for 3rd consecutive season. Why he’s still in the job I’ll never know. Also people make out the squad is brilliant but under acheiving, there’s not many players in this squad the good sides would come in for.


4.) 29 Sep 2018 12:44:02
And now they have scored. West Ham dominating completely as we expected. What a farce we have become.

Saw the team and West Ham were 3/ 1, so put £25 on them, couldn't resist, I've gone from backing us every game irrespective to now thinking the opposition will win. Horrible.


5.) 29 Sep 2018 12:59:51
It’s phill Jones’ fault.


6.) 29 Sep 2018 13:19:27
This is genuinely embarrassing. No movement, no ideas, Fellaini playing as our furthest forward mid. Martial wasted in the middle when he could be roasting Zab on the wing. This is the end for Jose, players have no confidence in his approach and it’s showing. The only question left today is who Jose will choose to blame for it.


7.) 29 Sep 2018 13:19:55
He has to go now. It really seems like this is the end. He has to go. But someone should also have the players in and tell certain of them that their time at the club is also over as they're displays have been unacceptable.


8.) 29 Sep 2018 14:34:56
He alienates most of his players and the results suffer, a common theme under the especially challenged one in his last few jobs, why are people surprised?


9.) 29 Sep 2018 14:36:50
Regardless of manager, tactics, team selection, this is a very average squad of players. Only de gea would have got into past united teams. Unbelievable considering the obscene amounts some of them have cost. Hope some of you younger fans don't have to endure the 27 years us older ones did but at this moment there doesn't seem to be any sort of plan or direction. Things can only get better ( although they might have to get worse first)


10.) 29 Sep 2018 16:11:36
This is a better squad than the last United team to win the league title.


11.) 29 Sep 2018 16:29:11
Well this time the ref is to blame.


 

 

25 Sep 2018 21:05:17
Half time. I thought we were playing a Championship team at home, but we seem to be playing Man City or a team of that ilk!

We score a fantastic team goal. But we are now officially a counter-attacking team, Derby look more Utd than we do. I just don't get it. We are just so happy to let them have the ball, we either attack at speed and look a threat or (most of the time) have pointless confused posession and end up losing it to a far more energetic Derby.

Lukaku missing two sitters again.

Martial playing well. No one really playing awful, but Derby look the better team. Like every team does that comes to Old Trafford. Hope we lift it 2nd half, most of these players have a point to prove and are playing for places.

The Beast

1.) 25 Sep 2018 21:28:35
Could Romero look less bothered about being sent off?

This was coming, truly awful this second half. We have a team of top class Internationals out there.


2.) 25 Sep 2018 21:32:56
My sympathy is with the thousands that travelled there in a week night and watched the game live!


3.) 26 Sep 2018 01:42:12
Exactly, Beast. We still aren't a team.


 

 

02 Sep 2018 16:00:15
I'm glad the manager has learnt he is managing Man Utd, not some underdog. Wait, no he picks Fellaini to combat the aerial threat of Burnley!

What about taking the game to Burnley and making them adapt to us?

He may score and be immense today, but frankly this type of negative, defensive first tactic sums up why he is not right for the club. What a joke, and no wonder the board didn't back him still further than they already have - dropping our big money signing for a guy that couldn't get a deal after hawking himself around the minnows of Europe.

One consolation if we do draw/ lose today will be we are rid of the 'negative one'.

The Beast

1.) 02 Sep 2018 17:17:10
Beast mate i'm sure you get the irony of you calling Anybody else 'the negative one'😂😂.


2.) 02 Sep 2018 17:35:54
Does being negative about negative football make you positive?


3.) 02 Sep 2018 17:41:35
How did it work out anyway beast in the end? 😂.


4.) 02 Sep 2018 17:51:03
He did well, but if we had taken the game to them rather than playing with three plodders in midfield it could and should have been 5 or 6-0 today. Goal difference is important, we know better than anybody.

Many a time this negative tactic hasn't worked, but we did enough today.


5.) 02 Sep 2018 18:01:47
Yeah okay beast. Burnley have been beaten 5-0 plenty of times haven't they?


6.) 02 Sep 2018 18:04:11
Fellaini was excellent today, its could have won 7-0 if they took their chances. Burnley couldn't get out precisely because Mourinho played matic and Fellaini in front of smalling and Lindelof. Their out ball to Woods was totally nullified.

The payoff was fullbacks pushed much further forward. Shaw caused problems all game. Can't wait for Dalot to push Tony V out of the team.

The attitude of the whole team was much better. Far more committment of players into their box. We worked hard and deserved to win.

Rom must be more clinical and Pogba more influential for us to mount any type of title challenge.


7.) 02 Sep 2018 18:18:44
Beast, you couldn't even wait until the match was over before you spouted your negative nonsense. I hate to break it to you pal, but Jose has forgotten more about football than you'll ever know.

We were in complete control of that game for 90 minutes. Despite the best efforts of an incredibly poor referee, we went to Turf Moor and dominated, a notoriously difficult place to play. We defended well, the midfield played well, especially Fellaini. We created a lot of chances and on another day that's a 5-0 result.

The away fans were amazing as always. The manager and the players deserve credit for the result today. A lot of pressure from fans and media who would love to see us crash and burn but we coped with that pressure today and that result is just the tonic we needed before the international break.

No need to hit the doomsday whistle just yet.


8.) 02 Sep 2018 18:38:37
Ridiculous to have a pop at Fellaini before the game even starts.

Not a fan of him myself but he played well at the World Cup and gives teams something else to think about.

From the last performance and result it’s not as if you can say that no one could be dropped.

Good solid performance. Hope Rashford is fined and disciplined by the club for his actions as in another match that could of cost us. At 2-0 up players should be ensuring that all the pressure remains on the opposition.

Annoying Pogba had his penalty saved. Don’t like his run up it makes me nervous!


9.) 02 Sep 2018 18:41:19
Good post mumbles and veey good analysis dodgy
Beast how often are burnley badly beaten at turf moor?


10.) 02 Sep 2018 18:46:32
No harm beast but your statement saying if we went for them we’d have won by about 5. Well, lukaku alone probably should have had 5 himself? That was a good solid performance. Unfortunatley marred by rashfords silly reaction.


11.) 02 Sep 2018 18:58:02
Ken I just find this type of post unbearable to read. We all know Beast's views, some I agree with, some I don't. But to slate a player and the manager before the match has even kicked off, in the hope it all goes pear shaped so he could say "I told you so" is so annoying.

If we lose or draw then he is well within hi's rights to have a pop, but to do it before the game quite frankly is disgraceful.


12.) 02 Sep 2018 19:07:38
Funny how Klopp brings in henderson the back passer he is lauded for shoring up the midfield, yet when Fellaini is brought in for us its negative and horrible.

Grow up beast we won 2-0 and couldve been 5 or 6.


13.) 02 Sep 2018 19:13:08
How often have Fulham beat them 4-2 and how many times have Burnley struggled with Europe and Sundays? They aren't the same animal as last year.

We won today comfortably, so it's easy for you all to spout off.

However my point is true, we drop a £60m signing for a defensive player to combat the threat of Burnley - we won, should have won by more. I think we would have won by a lot more had we played more offensive mobile midfielders personally.


14.) 02 Sep 2018 19:14:01
Crikey even when we win comfortably against a decent side away there is moaning. Beast you’ve missed your calling in life and should have been Parisian waiter 😃.


15.) 02 Sep 2018 18:23:15
It’s as simple as this, Fellaini shouldn’t be anywhere near the starting eleven for Manchester United.


16.) 02 Sep 2018 20:07:49
Bilko, bore off.

Fellaini a very good player. If that's the case he shouldn't be anywhere near that Belgian squad either.


17.) 02 Sep 2018 20:09:15
He shouldn't but we won and attacked until the last minute. didn't sit back and hold onto our lead.


18.) 02 Sep 2018 20:25:00
Angel,

Fellaini is a big lump, you think he would have got anywhere near a United team ahead of the likes of Keane and Scholes.?
You think he’d get anywhere near the City or Liverpool first elevens?


19.) 02 Sep 2018 20:25:04
Am I the only one who likes Fellaini.


20.) 02 Sep 2018 21:11:30
No Eric, you're not.

I also think he does a job, consummate professional, played well today against a team that is normally, very physical, made his presence felt, the lad did good today.


21.) 02 Sep 2018 21:11:30
No Eric, you're not.

I also think he does a job, consummate professional, played well today against a team that is normally, very physical, made his presence felt, the lad did good today.


22.) 02 Sep 2018 21:36:14
I like him. Never hid that fact.


23.) 02 Sep 2018 21:44:15
Im not a big fellaini fan he doesn't suit my eye at all.
That said and I've always said he gives 100% the manager likes him and he has certain attributes which woek for jose. He has a great attitude and spirit.
He does a job when called upon and usually does it well.
We might well have won today with fred in the team but we did win with fellaini and he did his job well so credit where its due.


24.) 02 Sep 2018 22:38:27
Bilko is right. Would Fellaini get in the team at any of Europe's top clubs?

The answer is no and you all know it. For all you bigging him up, I challenge you tell me I am wrong.


25.) 02 Sep 2018 22:39:51
I’m not a United fan but just thought I would say, Burnley will finish in the bottom 5 or 6 this year. Already struggling badly with having to cope with European football. I think you may well win your next 4 games as well, you have a nice run of fixtures coming up but still expect you to be scrapping spurs for 4th and 5th at the end of the season.


26.) 02 Sep 2018 22:55:10
Beast. I understand your point completely. We should've put 5 past Burnley. Lesser teams have put plenty past them this season. Its a win, but if we can't beat Burnley comfortably, then God help us. I can't believe the near hysteria over beating a second rate team that is going to get plenty of hammerings this season.
Ps. Any of the optimistics care to tell us how Spurs did against Watford today? No? Thought so.


27.) 02 Sep 2018 23:19:31
Mancman, the simple fact is, we're not one of Europe's top clubs just now, so we take what we can. He's a Belgian international, always gives his best, never seems to feel sorry for himself with all the abuse he gets, and most importantly he gives us another option. I've said before, if a few other players in the team showed the same desire and intensity as Fellaini, we might not be where we are just now. Other teams don't like playing against him. We certainly didn't when he played for Everton.


28.) 02 Sep 2018 23:43:45
United had plenty of midfielders that were in and around that united 'squad' with scholes and Keane. Some of which some would say should not have been around that squad. But they were and very much contributed to the cause.

It's very disrespectful to a footballer as good as fellaini to claim he should be nowhere near the team. You must have a short memory, I'm pretty sure I and others can name at least 5 players that were in and around that time.

You just have a personal dislike for fellaini.

City and Liverpool have many players I wouldn't have had in United's squad. Delph, shaqiri, wijnaldum, Henderson and others.

However they are there and all contribute. Again, very disrespectful to a very good player in fellaini.


29.) 03 Sep 2018 07:56:35
Fellaini does a job and does it well. Remember in the World Cup when Belgium played Brazil he broke every Brazil attack up and had Neymar in his pocket. 😆😆.


30.) 03 Sep 2018 08:48:46
Noucamp, we are not one of Europe's top clubs? Sorry, but I have to take issue with that. I agree that Fellaini shows heart and desire but he simply lacks the necessary quality. Yes, he gets a game for Belgium, but Martinez is hardly a managerial genius.

How depressing that as utd supporters your standards have fallen so far that you believe Fellaini should be playing for Utd.


31.) 03 Sep 2018 10:52:09
Are we playing like one of Europe's top clubs just now? That was my point. You cut your cloth accordingly.


32.) 03 Sep 2018 10:58:41
I don’t have any personal dislike of Fellaini, he does what he does and always gives 100%, he’s just not good enough to be anywhere near the first eleven for a club that’s one of the biggest in world football .


33.) 03 Sep 2018 13:25:22
Noucamp, the reason we are not playing like one of Europe's top clubs is that we have players like Fellaini in the team and a manager that approaches all our games like we are not one of Europe's top clubs. It's all just self fulfilling and the low expectations of supporters who think this is all OK is not helping.


34.) 03 Sep 2018 13:31:06
Fellaini gets stick even when he's played very well. Been happening since lvg days.

Jeeeezus

No he wohldnt get in to a team above keane and scholes, we did however have a few more options than just those 2 even in the glory days AND
God forbid it we even played some of them when keane or scholes couldnt. an he's not here for that.

Hes a UTD player, he comes on to make an impact and it works.


35.) 03 Sep 2018 13:42:44
I'm not going to wish him away. No-one is saying he's a brilliant footballer. He is a good squad player that offers a different option. While he puts on a red shirt and carries on doing what he's doing, he'll get my support. I find he's been a useful scapegoat for the club's ills since he was signed.


36.) 03 Sep 2018 13:57:32
OK then ezrs, tell me that Fellaini would get a game with any of City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Real, Barca, Juve, Bayern, PSG, Athletico or even Napoli, Spurs, Monaco or Dortmund.


37.) 03 Sep 2018 14:11:32
Noucamp, are you saying you like the hoof it up to the big man option Fellaini gives us? Or would you prefer the Fergie option of battering the opposition into submission with self belief and proper football? It's one or the other because the two are incompatible.

I don't personally dislike Fellaini but he represents everything that is currently wrong with Man Utd.


 

 

29 Jul 2018 11:46:06
Some people are under some misconception that sacking a manager every couple of years is bad, even if that manager has not performed to the level required. Ask yourselves these questions if you are against sacking a manager as it creates instability:

What is there left to disrupt?
Why does Jose deserve our unreserved loyalty?
What has Jose done for the fans?
Will you be surprised if we have a good season (I will and so will 99% of honest football watchers)?

Make the change, get rid of the rotten apple and hopefully make the correct appointment next time - if after 1 year the trajectory doesn't look promising, do it again. Keep going, it's a transient business now, no room for tolerating less than great.

Works for Madrid doesn't it! Works for City, arguments can be made that it works for many other elite clubs.

Just because in the 80's SAF started poorly in circumstances that are far removed to the Utd of today, some fans seem to think we could be sacking the next SAF, or we lose more of our crumbing identity by being impatient. They lose all sense of percentages and fail to realise that over the past 30 years loyalty/ honour are things that have diminished rapidly in the game and society - everything is short term so we need to adapt our thinking. My advice is stop giving respect until it's earned. Mourinho and Woodward do not deserve our respect, our club is a mess anybody can see it. Changes need to happen, plodding along as it is, is just driving the knife in deeper and creating more of a mess for the next guy.

Until the toxics come back in full force we will be making the mountain climb back to the summit ever steeper! We have a bad-un, cut the chord before next weekend and we have a chance of making this season a success rather than a fiasco.

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1.) 29 Jul 2018 12:00:46
Barcelona Madrid Munich juve all regular change there manager.


2.) 29 Jul 2018 12:03:45
He's a disgrace, just spends his time moaning instead of making the most of what he's got. Look at Poch, saying not everything hinges on transfer, he's content to settle with less than desired. The nail in the coffin was Klopp saying ""Do I get the sack if not? Depends on the football we play. A big part of the job is to play football that our people like. " Feels like a direct jibe at Mourinho and he's right.


3.) 29 Jul 2018 12:14:56
I'm not a fan of his beast but it has to run its course we shouldn't fire him on what we suspect will happen it has to actually happen. You can't fire him for being second, I dislike the style as much as you and suspect there's going to be better teams than us this season and if that's the case and we are dull and not in the race then I wouldn't wait too long to change but second earned him another shot . I hope we play better and he's a success and don't tolerate it if that's not the case, it's his third season it's now fair to judge him on results and style .


4.) 29 Jul 2018 12:21:31
At the minute I can't work out whether 1. Jose wants to still be a at our club, 2. Whether he is trying to get sacked by the club with his comments about players and lack of transfers, 3. Whether he is on the verge of quitting.
I have always been a supporter of Mourinho and thought this could be the year it clicks. Just his demeanor and constant comments (latest martial not returning to America! ) make me think its not going to.
I'm still hoping once back with first teamers it will all improve.

{Ed025's Note - it wont mate..


5.) 29 Jul 2018 12:22:04
We need a DOF. It will enable us to take some direction off of the pitch which Woody just does not give.

{Ed025's Note - its the director of misery thats the problem pog..


6.) 29 Jul 2018 12:24:53
It’s ironic that the toxic fans have resulted in us having a toxic manager.

Only in football would this behaviour be accepted, any other profession the manager would be sacked for the attitude shown by Jose.

I’ve never once called for a united manager to be sacked but enough is enough now. Poor signings, publicly calling out his superiors and working staff and failure to motivate his team. We fans can never truly understand what is going on behind the scenes but Jose is doing his best to let us all know that he has no interest in being here.


7.) 29 Jul 2018 12:53:39
Add Chelsea to the list. Look how many Managers they have had in he last 10 years and they have outperformed us.


8.) 29 Jul 2018 13:03:58
"It’s ironic that the toxic fans have resulted in us having a toxic manager. "

"I’ve never once called for a united manager to be sacked but enough is enough now. "

Let them words sink in.


9.) 29 Jul 2018 16:46:41
FFS. I despair.


10.) 29 Jul 2018 16:52:54
Toxics of the world unite!
I was an optimist. Mourinho cured me of that towards the end of last season when I returned to watching footie in the local park. I contemplated trying afresh this season only to find Jose busy making sure I don't have a relapse. I just don't see how he expects to motivate the players at United, attract others or endear himself to supporters. United will not make second and will struggle to make top 4 imo.


 

 

 

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09 Oct 2018 14:54:01
Juventus have Szczesny in goal. I appreciate he misses Spain, but that screams out at me.

Ultimately he has been a great player for us, not one of our fans should have any hard feelings if he leaves. He signed for a great club, he now plays for a club I barely recognise.

Wouldn't mind a little swapsy with Athletico for Oblak.

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03 Oct 2018 14:57:28
I've watched a lot of Valencia this season, they looked better against Utd than much of the fodder they have faced in Spain. Awful result.

Good post.

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01 Oct 2018 09:16:05
Watch a Moyes performance then watch a Jose one. You'll find we were much better under Moyes imo. Difference is Moyes followed SAF and a title winning team, Jose followed the atrocious LVG. Moyes was under pressure to attack and win games 2-3/ 0 so when we were leading we still attacked and ended up getting sucker punched frequently. The drop off in actual performance wasn;t stark it was just Moyes didn't have the players onside and was not as capable as SAF to make that squad squeeze over the line.

Moyes had players about to retire with virtually zero backing financially until it was too late. Jose has had I think 5 windows now with virtually unlimited funds. The fans on the whole now accept us winning and playing awful, even drawing. Moyes wouldn't have lasted until now if this was his first few games of the season.

I'd argue had we kept Moyes we would look a better team now and have some direction. Granted he was clearly out of his depth, but it's hard to imagine much worse than the mess everything seems to be in. Football is horrible to watch, results are all over the place, players seem to be playing well beneath their standards.

We need a new manager, but when Jose took over I don't think any of us would have expected us to be this bad consistently irrespective of his meltdowns and negative tactics. It is taking it to the next level when we set-up to defend against West Ham and are happy to let team like Brighton and Leicester dominate us.

So in my view it was better under Moyes and his obstacles were 10X higher than what Jose's are. Almost every problem we have now is self inflicted by Jose and his attitude and outdated tactics. Moyes was on a hiding to nothing, we were all happier under Moyes imo.

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25 Sep 2018 22:19:17
The results were great Jred - but it was a trap. We just were clinical and took the few chances we created in blitzes for about a month. Our play was just as negative and laboured, we just hit a purple patch of finishing in bursts.

Enough has to be enough now. That team we put out with a decent manager in charge would have it competing, not getting outplayed by Derby County.

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02 Sep 2018 15:35:17
Shaw was playing perfectly fine the vast majority of games he played. One or two he was a little rusty which is to be expected. I can barely remember any game where he was one of our poorest performers.

The manager just didn't pick him. He is not dropping him now like he was last season, that is the only difference.

Jose's current weakness means he can't afford to be too blatant with his dislike for Shaw as a player as the fans and media are looking for any excuse. Shaw is benefiting from a fragile Jose.

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13 Oct 2018 11:58:48
If you supported Man Utd Ed002 I highly doubt you wouldn't be saying that.

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{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with supporting Manchester United or not - it is a simple statement of fact. I appreciate the knuckledragging boneheads struggle to comprehend that - and to be fair it is clear that heh Manchester United fans are hardly the most knowledgeable about the game.}


 

 

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12 Oct 2018 16:06:53
No they are trying to be like Ibra, that is the problem!

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12 Oct 2018 14:55:56
Scholes - Agree completely, but would go one step further. I think the players he was 'meant' to have a positive impact on have gone backwards. There is a hell of a lot of 'too big for their boots' going on at out club, people like Zlatan take that too the extreme. Trouble is half the players think that 90% of the game seems to be talk. I'm looking at Pogba, Rashford, Lingard, Martial - not developed anything like they should have with their potential. Too much ego and I genuinely think the waffle on here about Zlatan helping peoples games (a couple of years ago) is totally unfounded.

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07 Oct 2018 17:38:56
Ken - It's down to having respect for your boss. He is damaging their careers, making work uncomfortable for them. If your boss is in the public eye speaking nonsense or throwing you under the bus publicly then it is going to effect how you think of him.

I have worked under some great bosses and I was a great employee in return. However for the brief instances I worked under poor bosses I either stood my ground or if I didn't think it worth the time/ energy I moved elsewhere.

If you don't respect your boss then it's hard to bite your tongue if you have anything about you. Footballers don't have the luxury of walking out like most people do.

I'm also old school in my management thinking - anyone gives me lip they are out the door (unless they are right) . It doesn't work nowadays for the most part, especially in the current snowflake social media culture we are surrounded by.

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06 Oct 2018 16:51:31
He wants his payout mate. He doesn't care about turning things around, he can BS his way out of anything as the media will lap up anything he says.

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