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31 Dec 2019 09:42:47
I think Ole has done a pretty good job of steadying the ship. He's (re-) introduced an attacking style, given a lot of youngsters a proper chance, and begun to weed out the unwilling and the unfit from the squad. He knows the club and has learned from the great SAF himself. SAF was once asked, of all his greatest players, who was going to make a great manager, and he replied 'Ole: he's always analysing the game from the bench. ' That's what made him such an effective sub.

The modern game, and, indeed, the modern mind, does not often allow for patience. This club has been in turmoil and sliding out of contention for top trophies like the league and CL for over six years now. The holes in the squad were apparent even before the great man retired, and we all know the what's happened in between with ineffective replacements and poor recruitment leaving the squad a confused mess with too much player power.

So fixing this mess is going to take more than a season or two. And the upward trajectory, if and when it arrives, will not necessarily be linear. But this feels different. Young stars are shining. Slightly older ones are finding consistency and coming of age, albeit slowly. Even Fred, who I can guarantee every poster on this site had written off, myself included, is suddenly looking like a good footballer who might just help us get to where we want to be.

I'm not saying Ole's the Messiah, and I'm not saying he's a very naughty boy. Sure, I've had my doubts as to whether he's got the tactical nous to beat the best, or attract top players, but you know what? He's only going to get better. (And so are Martial, Rashford, James, Williams, Tuanzebe, McTominay, AWB, Greenwood, Henderson, and a few other besides. )

Yes, I was disappointed when we capitulated to Watford, just like we've done before, but I can see us pulling in the right direction. Even though we have off days, the players seem to be buying into his vision, and that counts for a lot. Klopp didn't win trophies at the start of his reign, but they gave him time to build a team and instil his methods. Ole's already proved he can go toe-to-toe with Guardiola and Mourinho (and Fat Frank) .

I don't know if Ole will be our manager when we next win the league, but I'm enjoying watching him help us get back into contention. He's my favourite manager since SAF, too. Of course I'm biased because of what he did for us as a player, but we also know that he's got that killer instinct, and apparently a hairdryer, too.

The year I became seriously interested in English football (thanks to Eric Cantona and Panini), United were already Champions, so that's all I ever knew. But I see the way other fans and teams have suffered as we kept winning and winning, and now the boot is on the other foot. To get back to the top takes time, especially when you're competing with two of the greatest teams to have ever graced English football. Even when we were all conquering, we still didn't set records like City and Liverpool have been doing. Time, and perspective, gentlemen, and ladies too.

It's been a pleasure reading this site for over 15 years now, but my, has it gotten b! tchy at times too. Let's focus on the positives. And thank you to all the marvellous Eds who keep this thing going for so many fans of so many teams. Happy New Year.

arnie

{Ed047's Note - A really nice post Arnie and have a great New Year yourself.


1.) 31 Dec 2019 12:39:24
Arnie really good read that, I agree with all that.


2.) 31 Dec 2019 13:11:30
Well said - my head says OGS is so wrong, but my heart loves the fact he’s in charge and the direction he’s taking. I’ll go with my heart. Happy anew Year all - fabulous site and and insights from all involved. Thank you.


3.) 31 Dec 2019 13:13:17
Arnie I agree with 90 per of your very good post. But I think ole should stay away from Fergie

I know what Fergie did for us all. I've been a united fan for 40 years.

But imo ole should stay independent of Fergie with a lot of matters regarding transfers and how team should be selected.

I'm also a little annoyed with ole cause he's stated he wants to build for next year.
Fair enough but look at what's still on offer this season. Cup semi last 32 in Europe and 4th place possibly in reach.


4.) 31 Dec 2019 14:10:47
Great post Arnie.


5.) 31 Dec 2019 14:21:27
I think he's just trying to lower the pressure by talking about next season. What he's saying in public is probably very different to what's being said indoors.


6.) 31 Dec 2019 14:59:41
Great post Arnie!


7.) 31 Dec 2019 16:27:35
Not a bad debut, Arnie son 😁.


 

 

13 Jul 2019 09:25:11
If we sign Fernandes and Maguire, as well as continuing to make other good decisions footballing wise, all of us will. see a marked improvement in team performance and trophies. Mark my words.

We need an English captain centre half, and creativity and goals from midfield from a Portuguese. We already have the homegrown wonderkid forward and mainland European center half.

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1.) 13 Jul 2019 10:16:16
Arnie,

What has where the player comes from got to do with the price of fish?


2.) 13 Jul 2019 10:22:35
There’s about 5 players in our squad worthy to wear the Man Utd shirt . More than two players needed and a good dozen need to be sold by the club. Good to see young lads coming in and building rather than short term fixes though.
Be few years I personally believe before we see trophies back at Old Trafford .
And no not being negative and all doom and gloom, I’m being a realist .


3.) 13 Jul 2019 10:22:53
Jingoism is the stupidest part of facism.


4.) 13 Jul 2019 10:26:34
Nationality ultimately is irrelevant. It would be good to have a strong core of British players, mostly because they don't tend to want to up and move to Spain after a couple of years. It gives you a chance to have a core of players for the medium to long term.

However, first and foremost they have to be good enough.

Also although it can be useful to have two players from the same country in the changing room initially to help them settle, long term they need to integrate with the whole squad. Having too many players from one specific country or region can create clicks in the dressing room. Much like at Arsenal under Wenger where you had a strong french contingent who mostly kept themselves to themselves.

Maguire would improve us, but he doesn't have the ability to lift us to where we want to be. He isn't a leader, and he has serious defensive lapses which he would need to iron out to make the step up. At 27 it's a worry that he hasn't done that already.


5.) 13 Jul 2019 10:41:47
Think Arnies original post was referencing Rio, Ronaldo and Rooney. Vidic as European centre half etc.


6.) 13 Jul 2019 11:03:59
I'm sure he was lauding a Portugese player and another from somewhere in mainland Europe I assume Lindelof. Where's the jingoism there? Or am I missing something.


7.) 13 Jul 2019 10:51:04
Finn,

Perhaps, you’ve done well to work that out from the post though!


8.) 13 Jul 2019 10:53:06
Shappy,

Nationality ultimately is irrelevant. It would be good to have a strong core of British players.

Shed some light on this please. Contradiction in one line.


9.) 13 Jul 2019 11:20:18
We already have an English captain - Ashley Young 👀

Although I’m not really sure what nationality has to do with it. As long as they communicate well and lead by example.

I’d sooner have Dias or Milenkovic over Maguire. Maguire would improve us but not by enough.


10.) 13 Jul 2019 12:04:00
What was wrong with the original post? He didn't say anything jingoistic. He was merely saying we need a strong core of Brirish players to compliment the foreign players, and i agree with that completely. British players by in large, understand the club and it's history and should form the basis of the team.


11.) 13 Jul 2019 12:06:25
United addict, I thought it was pretty clear.

Nationality is ultimately irrelevant, however, if we can have a core of British players that might have some benefits. But like I said ultimately it is talent and mentality not nationality that is the most important thing.


12.) 13 Jul 2019 12:18:13
Shappy

I am interested to know the basis of why you think Maguire isn’t a Leader?

A key point about who we buy is that a leader on the pitch needs to be one of them, because we don’t have one at the club.


13.) 13 Jul 2019 12:25:16
I'm surprised how highly people rate dias.


14.) 13 Jul 2019 13:36:50
I get the english language Shappy however what i don't understand is how would having a british core be beneficial from let's say having a Congolese core. Afterall its the talent rather than the nationality.


15.) 13 Jul 2019 13:50:39
Red Man, he has never shown leadership qualities. He isn't very communicative, also I know someone both at Hull and Leicester who say he is more of a follower than a leader. He wasn't a leader for England last summer either.

Jred, I have watched Dias a dozen times this season at least. I regularly watch Benfica and Sporting when I can. So that's why I rate him. However, he was excellent for Portugal in the Nations League cup a couple of weeks ago, plus Ed002 highly rates him which I'm sure will sway some fans. Then of course for others he is just a sexy foreign name which is enough.

Maguire is a good player who would improve us, he just isn't worth anywhere near his asking price. He has great physical qualities, yet lacks the intelligence to be a great defender. As such he won't lift us to the level we need.


16.) 13 Jul 2019 14:19:06
United Addict, Have you ever moved away from your home country? Settling in, new language, new culture it can be difficult.

If we are to build a long term project, we need a core of players who will stay with the team long term. Obviously the most important aspect of that is they have the talent to be in the side long term.

However, most would say Pogba has the talent. Yet everyone would say your being foolish if you try and base your long term plans around a player such a Pogba.

British players rarely move abroad, they much prefer their home comforts. Sure there are the exceptions, but they are the outliers not the the rule.

So it COULD be beneficial to have a core of young British players who will more likely stay with the club over the next 5-8 years. Players who could be with the club at the start of the project hopefully right through to success at the end.

However, talent and mentality are the most important things.


17.) 13 Jul 2019 14:37:55
The rules re ‘Home Grown’ players is clear. A 25 man squad must contain 12, up from 8, of home grown players. 2 of which must be from the clubs academy. Perhaps this is what was being referred rather than jingoism?


18.) 13 Jul 2019 14:38:55
Shappy I disagree with you on dias and Maguire.


19.) 13 Jul 2019 17:35:38
Jred, which bit on Dias do you disagree with.

He's highly rated? Ed002 rates him? He was excellent for Portugal? I've watched him regularly? Or that some people might prefer him because he has a foreign name?

I'm not sure which bit you disagree with?


As for Maguire, what do you disagree with? That he would improve us?


20.) 14 Jul 2019 00:35:20
Shappy between Sms fenandes and dias you have watched over 50 games of potugese and Italian football.
Mate that's either gross exaggeration or you need to get out more mate.
I find that extraordinary. At least try watching them in the national stations you could be fluent I potugese and Italian by the end of next season and you will have done something worthwhile with the 75 hours of liver football you watch and that's before you scout the German french and epl games. 😂😂.


21.) 14 Jul 2019 08:10:37
Don't forget the Ukrainian games watched.


22.) 14 Jul 2019 21:44:52
Nice one Finn's Dad.


 

 

 

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05 Nov 2021 08:17:37
We'd be more of a laughing stock if we'd got Pogba to agree to the measly 400k pw - it could even have been more! I don't hate the boy, I just don't think we are ever going to buy or produce enough holding mids that can cover for all his generous moments. And they are bountiful.

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02 Nov 2021 20:40:18
Pogba trying very very hard to give away multiple goals against Atalanta. Someone tell him Halloween is over.

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30 Oct 2021 10:31:57
I never said it was only his fault we lost to Liverpool. Just reread it.

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30 Oct 2021 08:44:38
Would you have expected us to finish above Liverpool?

It was an overachievement for Jose, so too with Ole. Look at how far away we really are. we will be lucky to get 3rd this season.

No team with Pogba in the midfield is ever going to win the PL. You can't have passengers in the middle of the park nowadays.

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27 Aug 2021 09:41:15
The polo! I love it.

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04 Nov 2021 08:10:00
He will have a seventh son of a seventh son. And it will be called Tim, the Sorcerer.

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03 Nov 2021 00:28:27
Ken I think he abandoned 3 at the back after Varane got injured. We don't have many more CBs worth putting on the pitch when you get that far down the list.

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20 Oct 2021 08:27:14
I get that it's frustrating: so many of us can see that we are nearly there. And how it feels when we go on a winning or unbeaten streak with Ole like the United Way is back. But it's not coming back. We need to find a new way to play the United Way, and we are, as the Ed says, actually very highly competitive. Just not quite as highly as we poor spoiled United fans would like. In the top 5% of the football pyramid, I'd say. I think we will get the balance right eventually. Maybe it will be Ole, or maybe it will be Phil Neville, or even someone who hasn't played for the club! Hell, even Liverpool managed it, eventually. I know getting spanked by Leicester hurts, even more after our recent form, but it's going to get a reaction - of some sort or other (cough, cough, Pogba) - which could help us decide which employees of the club need to leave in the not too distant future.

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15 Oct 2021 10:36:40
I still like the manager. Yes, he's go his limitations, but he's still done better at getting the whole squad/ club pulling in the same direction than anyone since SAF, and that's worth a lot considering where we've been in recent years. Give him the season and see if he can make it gel. I think the (surprise) Ronaldo signing changes our whole team dynamic, and that, and Rashford's absence, has affected what were some blossoming on pitch relationships. Yes, we've been pretty rubbish for a few games, but we also have an awesome front line, so at least it's fun to see if we can get a few if them firing at once. Sancho is going to need time to get up to speed and it's good that he's got Ronnie to take the spotlight off him.

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11 Sep 2021 18:43:45
Rojadirecta.

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