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31 May 2018 22:48:00
Wonder if Jose might be on his way back to Madrid with Zidane gone. If so who would come in here and I guess it would really play havoc with our transfer plans.


1.) 01 Jun 2018 00:15:08

2.) 01 Jun 2018 00:48:46
Thr papers (who have absolutely no facts) are saying wenger as favourite for RM

Tgey have also linked every manager in the top 10 of football so.

Tge Wenger thing i don't understand at all tho.

3.) 01 Jun 2018 11:08:52
If . Big if. if jose was too leave . I'd go for Simone and let him bring greisman with him.

4.) 01 Jun 2018 11:51:33
No interest in Simeone from my side.
Would be even more “results over style” then Mourinho.
Would put us in a difficult spot with the season being over and transfer plans in full swing from all clubs.
Only positive would be it being a World Cup year, which is a big stumbling block in transfer dealings for the involved players anyway.

5.) 01 Jun 2018 23:31:04
Fat Sam is available 🤢 don’t think you would notice any difference if they swapped Jose for pulis.



03 Jul 2017 11:35:00
On talk sport, Jim White is saying Rooney is off to Everton. I think he would do well there especially as he will be really motivated for his boyhood club. I can see Everton being a real force this season. Would you guys be happy if we got Ross Barclay as part of the deal.


1.) 03 Jul 2017 11:54:46
Everton a real force hahaha.

2.) 03 Jul 2017 11:57:10
Not in anyway. Ross Barkley is bang average, always has been. Why would we want him? Where would he play?

3.) 03 Jul 2017 12:07:36
I don't want anything coming back the other way in this one. Barkley is only rated as he is English - his talent will be wasted. He should be up there with Alli in performance levels.

4.) 03 Jul 2017 12:20:51
Don't know how true but I was told Rooney was lined up for a coaching role at Everton next summer.

5.) 03 Jul 2017 12:32:07
I'd let rooney leave for free, we had the best Rooney years a while back so let him go and end his PL career with Everton. Oh and no I wouldn't want Barkley either.

6.) 03 Jul 2017 12:48:44
I thought Everton were making decent steps last season. Signings so far been ok. I wouldn't write them off.

7.) 03 Jul 2017 12:52:56
If Lukaku was part of the deal then how would you feel?

8.) 03 Jul 2017 13:37:10
Probably the new driver Jred.

9.) 03 Jul 2017 13:47:30
Everton have a good manager and made some astute signings. They will push for a top 4 spot this season i suspect but i'd imagine they will come up short.
As for rooney going back there. It would be nice for him to play out his career for the team and club he loves. He has had a great career at united ultimately 3 years too long probably but he will leave with the thanks of all supporters ringing in his ears i'd say. i'm sure when he conned back to OT he will get a great reception from the fans who will look back and ignore the last few years and remember the good times.

10.) 03 Jul 2017 13:50:39
conned? Who has he conned ken? ;)

11.) 03 Jul 2017 14:46:23
Would thank Rooney for his service and let him go for free to everton. Big wages off the books, but wouldn't want Barkley everton fans don't want him .

12.) 03 Jul 2017 14:58:15
I'd definitely let him go for free, it's the sensible business decision. Nobody is going to pay for him and I don't even know what value he has as a footballer, it's commercially where a buying lcub would see the benefits. Big wage bill off the books too.

He should and will go down as a legend.

The only reason I can't see him going to Everton (other than wages) is because I really don't see how he will get in their team.

13.) 03 Jul 2017 15:27:52
I would straight swap rooney and or fellaini for barkley. Putting aside how good you think barkley is it would make finacial sense. In this market you could sell barkley on for at least 30m next year.

I agree with most that barkley has been overrated in the past but he isn't average. He contributed to 13 league goals last season that's more than most of our squad members managed.

14.) 03 Jul 2017 17:06:08
Hi all,
Thanks to the Eds as always.
Got a good old fashioned friend of a friend rumour for you.
My brother in law, his girlfriend's dad is an Everton fan and he has said today the Lu Lu Lukaku is heading to United. Can't say I believe it but as I've said before I'd be happy if that came off.

15.) 03 Jul 2017 19:07:56
I can see lukaku coming tbh. I personally think he would be a brilliant signing for us. Good old fashioned striker who has consistently scored goals in teams that aren't challenging for the league. i'm not saying everton are bad side but if he can get the goals there surely with a bit of a step up he's going to score more.

16.) 04 Jul 2017 11:39:22
I like Barkley, not sure he is good enough for CL level. Had the potential, but not kicked on, so I'd give him a swerve.

In terms of Rooney - my prediction is he will start off well for 3-4 games, then by Xmas he will phased out of the team when they realise he is not mobile/ capable enough for the way they play. If we can get away with not paying any of his wages then it's a phenomenal way to get out of jail. I'd let him go for free of course, in fact I'd let him go if they offered to send us Gibson, Phil Neville and Tim Howard as part of the deal, lol.




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25 Nov 2018 18:42:52
One thing seems to be overlooked in all the hullabaloo about the first team. The u23s and younger teams do seem to be playing good football and in the Utd spirit. Surely Jose has a say in how the younger squads train and play and if so then why are they performing well and our first team not?


1.) 25 Nov 2018 19:11:37
No he doesn't and that might be why they are doing well. Jose will not tell coaches how their teams should play. He has to let them teach mould and educate them playing in a manner which will do that best and get the most out of those players.

2.) 25 Nov 2018 20:36:27
Sorry but Jose almost certainly will have an input to how the clubs structure their teams and how they play. I guess he deserves no credit at all for anything because he just needs sacking.

3.) 25 Nov 2018 20:51:34
Shappy, how do you know what Mourinho has a say in?
Making stuff up again while portraying the impression that you have the first clue what goes on at the club.

There is too much of this going on now, and it is bringing the standards down on this site massively (I mean that generally, not Shappy in particularly)

This has been the best footy site around for many years now, but is going down hill fast because people's personal dislike of one person, Mr Mourinho. Everyone has there own opinions, as they. But it seems like the ones with the strongest dislike for Mourinho have to keep on and on until everyone else 'falls into line' and agrees with their opinions and views.

Stop banging on about the same old stuff, you can't make everyone else agree. And you certainly won't change opinions by spouting the same, made up stuff all the time. We can all see what's going on in terms of performances on the field, but I suspect there is more to it than just one man. And none of us know what goes on behind the scenes, despite some pretending they do.

Let's get back to posting quality on here, instead of quantity.

{Ed025's Note - i know what your saying betty and some of that is indeed valid, but football is subjective and different people will always have differing views on players, managers and every other aspect of the game, it does not make you less of a supporter if you dont like the manager as much as it does not make you an authority on the game if you do, there is a negativity surrounding the club at the moment but for me its not down to the supporters alone, its the manager, CEO, and most importantly the players who have to be held to account for this mate, but thats just my view of course..

4.) 25 Nov 2018 20:55:17
Sorry, I should have added that I was referring to the posters and certainly not the eds in any way shape or form. It is a reflection on quality of posts, not the site, which is top notch.

5.) 25 Nov 2018 21:24:17
Really the site has gone down hill because of people's opinions of Jose?

Did you see the very personal insults of Shaw or martial last season?
How about the 2 year of abusive post of Rooney, the stick lvg got or the abuse moyes got before a ball was even kicked .
The constant slagging off of smalling young fellaini.

You seem ok with all of that I fact was part of it .

6.) 25 Nov 2018 21:28:27
What are you on about Red Man? Do you think Jose or any manager of an EPL side will sit down with the managers and coaches of the under 13's and tell them what formation and tactics they should be using?

Your deluded if you think he has the time to sit down with them at all levels. The closest he might come is he might say he wants them to be understand certain tactics. However, if you have a half decent youth set up you will be preparing your youngsters to be able to understand and play all manner of tactics.

Plus seeing as Mourinho never stays anywhere more than 3 years what would be the point of him speaking to anyone below under 23 or maybe under 18 level.

I expect he tells Casey Stoney how the Women's team should be playing as well. Maybe we should credit Mourinho with the Women's team 8-0 result today rather than question the 0-0 at home to Palace from yesterday for which Mourinho can take no blame as its all the fault of the Glazers, the board or Ed Woodward or whoever else you want to blame for Mourinho being unable to get the talented and expensive squad he has hand a hand in assembling to play well and get results.

7.) 25 Nov 2018 21:33:09
Does any one have any idea (Betty redmam) how much of a say Woodward or the glazers have on the football side of the business .
Because they seem to get a lot of stick and that seems to be ok.

8.) 25 Nov 2018 21:39:54
Ed, I totally agree that disliking the manager doesn't make you less of a supporter. I don't like him myself actually. If you remember I actually said I liked Martinez due to his style of play.
I respect that people have different views, but there are those that obviously don't and seem to be trying to change others opinions by constantly posting the same things over and over again - a lot of which is complete fiction portrayed as facts.

The fans are bound to be divided over who is at fault, and I think there is obviously more than 1 party at fault. Mourinho won't be around for long, I am sure. But I am also not expecting things to turn around as soon as he goes. I still see Mourinhos unpopularity as get out of jail free card for several players though.
Again, just my opinion. Not fact :)

{Ed025's Note - yo do speak a lot of sense betty, i know it can grind you down when all we hear is negativity mate but there is still hope there and a lot of very good players, getting the best out of them and playing as a team seems to be a bit of a problem at the moment though and i think thats why the natives are so restless, a few good results on the bounce could well change all that..

9.) 25 Nov 2018 21:50:56

If I was Manager I would want to set a style for the teams so that when youth step up they are playing in the same style as they have been doing. We know that the youth step up to train with the first team, why do you think it is such a big leap that the manager of the club has a say in uniting the tactics from top to bottom. In fact I would question his leadership if he didn’t.

10.) 25 Nov 2018 21:53:51

I read that when Pogba’s transferred was considered someone considered the social media clicks side as a part of the decision. Who considered that do you think, Mourinho or some other member of the club?

11.) 25 Nov 2018 21:56:30
As usual Jred, misrepresentating what I said. You run with the fixes and hunt with the hounds. Post all the questions and never have any answers.

I have no issue with people's opinions of Mourinho. But let's stick to the facts instead of people making stuff up, that's all.

As for being 'part of it', I thought Rooney was past his best. I don't think Smalling is good enough. Never had a go at Fellaini. I like Martial a lot and think he will be a top player, but needs to apply himself better and be more consistent. Would like him to stay.
Will happily admit I have been critical of Shaw's attitude and application, as have many including ex coaches and the player himself.

I was also accused of being a Moyes and LvG lover because I stuck up for them when players were underperforming.
Make of that what you want - but get your facts right first.

12.) 25 Nov 2018 22:23:44
Red man, if you were manager I would expect you would have the team playing some sort of attacking football. I would expect you to hold the club with a special kind of regard, and not take pot shots at it every time you failed.

But then your a fan of the club and your love for it means you will treat the club and it's traditions in a respectful way. Unlike a certain manager.

Don't assume the way you would run the club is the same way Jose would. I have been told by someone connected with Chelsea that Jose never took any interest in the youth set up unless he had an injury crisis. Never spoke about how they should play or what he wanted the kids to be learning.

So unless he has changed his methods since then I doubt he has any impact with the youth set up at all.

He expects his clubs to buy him the players he wants rather than him try and produce them. It's one of the reasons so few youngsters break through with him.

13.) 25 Nov 2018 22:25:28
My facts are right pal your recurring people for the same things you have done.
Honest question who are you to say what fact are right?
like you have said above you thought Rooney was past it.
Well reading the site many think Jose is past it .
You don't think smalling is good enough well people don't think Jose is .
You question Shaw do you have the facts?
But you seem to think it's ok for you to have an opinion and not others.

14.) 25 Nov 2018 22:31:20
Of course the social media side was a consideration . We are a billion pound company buying a £100,000,000 product and committing to a further £90,000,000 in wages .

Would you not consider all aspects before a near £200,000,000 investment .

So shappy says the manager has no sat in the youth teams? Does he know that, well betty and Redman seem the know he does?

Maybe we are all as bad as each other.



07 Nov 2018 21:54:30
At 74 mins I was upset at how open we were and how we didn't have a go. And then bloody hell as Fergie might have said. We attacked and got a result.


1.) 07 Nov 2018 21:58:03
Moyes signings changing the game. Give him the DoF role?

2.) 07 Nov 2018 22:02:30
Yeah we did! We were on the ropes, we rode our luck, but we beat Juve away. The team the conceded none concedes twice in 4mins. Not getting carried away but we needed such a boost. We didn't play bad, just gulf in quality of the players in either side showed in terms of the Juventus gmaeplay. Looking forward to the derby now! Let's keep it going!



26 Sep 2018 09:57:04
It has been apparent for several years that we lack true leaders like Keane and Neville. I like Mata Herrera and Fellini because generally they have passion for the badge but they are not true leaders. Pogba is not a natural leader. He is guilty of being too self focused but in the right team is fantastic. Jones and Smalling try hard but at the top level are not good enough. Matic is a good screen in front but he does not have the legs to consistently get up and down the pitch to help the midfield set up attacks. We need a midfield general who will dictate play and challenge and inspire the others. Pogba is just not that type of player. Blaming him for all our ills is unfair. Imagine him in City or Chelsea or Liverpool teams. He would be far more effective. We do not know what players Jose really wanted and could not get. As a commentator said last night he must have looked misty eyed at Frank Lampard who is exactly the type of player we lack. What is more serious is that with the first team struggling so badly he cannot take chances and blood our youngsters so their development will stall too. Long term the consequences of what is happening are troubling. Short term even Rashford is not progressing and he is undoubtedly talented and performs for England. The team showed desire last night when down to 10 men but the truth is that as a rule they just seem to lack a killer instinct. You can see how that frustrates Jose in his interviews. I really do not know how he can change this mess. If we go Gung ho with the defence and midfield not playing properly we will be picked off. If he tries to shore up defence it blunts the attack. I really do think we have a talented squad and need maybe two players to make the break though but don't know who is available.




19 Jul 2018 08:36:15
Unfortunately I do not think we will be able to get even second position in the league this year. City and Liverpool already had settled teams and only needed say two or three more players. Liverpool already had the German player signed up last year. City arguably only needed one player and signed up Mahrez who will be adjusted to the Premier immediately so they will hit the ground running. For the other teams playing catch up like Utd Spurs Chelsea it is so much harder to do business in a world cup year. It normally is vital for new players to bond with new teammates and to understand their roles in a new team during pre season. No other league is as competitive as ours so it does not matter as much in the French or German or Spanish or Italian leagues. I do have a lot of sympathy for Jose regarding the transfer market. He cannot control his own destiny. Also for players like Pogba who won the World Cup I fear we may expect too much of him. He just won the greatest prize in football. There has to be an anti climax for him at some stage. I hope people cut him some slack when the inevitable dip in form occurs. He is only human. We woukd all feel it.


1.) 19 Jul 2018 09:38:15
We got 2nd position in the league fairly comfortably with the squad we had last season and have added to that and will be adding more to that so no reason why we can't get that again even if other teams have improved. Surely your point about players bonding works for all teams, any new signings who played in the world cup will be behind anyway.

Seems strange and overly pessimistic to write us off 3 weeks before the end of a transfer window where we haven't really done a great deal of business yet so have plenty to go at.

2.) 19 Jul 2018 10:01:33
I hope your right GDS2.listening to Jose yesterday didn't fill me with a lot of confidence on the transfer front. Same old Jose whining already and the season hasn't even started.
I wish he would be a bit more up beat about things. he's managing the biggest club in the world.

3.) 19 Jul 2018 10:01:33
I hope your right GDS2.listening to Jose yesterday didn't fill me with a lot of confidence on the transfer front. Same old Jose whining already and the season hasn't even started.
I wish he would be a bit more up beat about things. he's managing the biggest club in the world.

4.) 19 Jul 2018 10:51:26
I haven't watched the press conference deliberately because I know most things managers say at this time of year about transfers are nonsense. Imagine he said 'yes, we have 3 deals lined up and they are all expected to be completed', what do you think this page and the back of the papers would be like today?

Read nothing from press conferences, they say what they want people to hear which is usually far from the truth.

5.) 19 Jul 2018 11:52:30
How about looking at it more positively hendonred. Jose has flown out on tour with 7-8 youngsters along with Martial, Periera and Shaw. All these players will be putting in the hard work to show Jose they can push themselves into his plans. Imagine him sitting in the press conference saying ‘we’re after 3-4 new players for x y z positions’. 4 days into the tour the players will be wondering why they bother if he’s just going to go and spend on new signings.

{Ed004's Note - I'm looking forward to the game tomorrow night. It'll be interesting to see what shape Shaw is in and Martials attitude/position he is played in. I've found the links to strikers odd this window but it could make sense if we intend to play 2 up top (Martial and Lukaku) as it only leaves Rashford as cover. If Shaw and Martial are in Jose's plans and both step up we are only really a world class cb short of having a very good team. I'm hoping Sanchez is tried on the right hand side and given a free role to roam like Mata does.}

6.) 19 Jul 2018 13:20:02
Ed004, much respect, but I disagree on your idea about the right wing. Whether it is Mata, Lingard, or Sanchez, they roam around, which ca be good, but that allows the opposing back four to stay tucked in and we have no threat in behind, nor do we stretch their back line out. I think that was MancMan's point above, as well as Shappy explaining why we don't have width. If we did keep wingers high and wide, and sent the backs forward to overlap and underlap, we actually might be fun to watch more often.

{Ed004's Note - Its good to have differing opinions. I think if Lukaku and Sanchez are tasked with pulling out to the right when the central areas get too crowded we could get away with it. We would need our full backs to offer a lot more width and certainly better crosses for it to work though}



15 Jul 2018 17:19:33
Well done Pogba.





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14 Oct 2018 23:43:47
Red Man in principle I agree with you. Selling out to the less than liberal rulers of a kingdom which funds how shall I put this. that allegedly funds soldiers of dubious ethics and morality. as well being rulers of a ki gdom that treats women as second class citizens. This is not what Man Utd should ever be associated with. But as pointed out Big Bucks rules in football now. Seems to me nobody cares much about the owners of our noisy neighbours and Barca. The Qatari regime is not exactly a paragon of virtue. So being pragmatic if our club prostitutes itself by being sold to the highest bidder if us the fans do not protest en masse we have no right to complain. Imagine banners all round OT with Saudis Out. It won't happen.




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03 Oct 2018 22:58:45
Do not rate Rabiot. He never dominates a match which is what we need.




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29 Sep 2018 21:16:27
It's about time the players who are selected took some of the heat too. They are paid megabucks to perform. Ultimately they should be playing for the fans for the shirt and for their own personal pride.




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27 Aug 2018 23:21:14
Bit of a wine drinker too.




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27 Aug 2018 02:58:42
Not exactly a rumour but has has anyone seen Salomon Kalu of Bordeaux. He seems a real prospect. Any rumours about him?





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10 Dec 2018 00:43:27
I was delighted to see us win but please let's put it in the right context. It was against the club bottom of our league who lots of concede goals almost every game. Of we can score and perform to the same hight level against our next ten opponents then maybe we can start to have true confidence that we have turned the corner. Until then let's hold our horses and wait and see how we do.




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04 Dec 2018 01:39:24
Thanks as ever Ed 002 for your insights. I find it interesting that the owners of what tiny is obviously really just one more of their businesses do not take a more hands on approach when things are obviously not going well and there has been a decline for years. I am. not saying that they would be getting involved in the minutae of daily life at Man Utd but I would have thought they would be asking probing questions of all the senior people and players and drawing their own conclusions and deciding who is mainly responsible for the decline and try to take decisive positive action.


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02 Dec 2018 23:41:43
Ed 002 if as you say EW has largely ignored the advice of advisors then does that mean the clubs owners are aware he has and are backing him and his judgement over the advisors / Jose. If so even they must surely be worried about the financial impact it will inevitably have on the club and thus their pockets. Is there anytji g you can see in the immediate future that is going to change drastically to enable the club to move forward.


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02 Dec 2018 16:51:39
Poch has a very talented squad but still they have won nothing. I don't know if he has the ability to take it to the next level which is where Utd need to get back to.




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28 Nov 2018 10:59:37
It's embarrassing for several reasons Firstly having accepted your right to voice an opinion about the player it is just plain wrong to think he is the worst striker in world football. Secondly he is just one of many many players who are not performing at club level yet when he plays for his national team he does well. Thirdly he is still trying to score and was our brightest attacker last night. Fourthly when the team and Ora player are going through a bad patch but are trying then you support them. He obviously tried last night. Fifthly if he were to read your comments do you think that he would feel more or less confidence to perform. He IS still a young guy with obvious talent and he needs to be nurtured and helped through this period. A real fan appreciates these points and acts accordingly. I hate it as much as you when he misses. I hate it as much as you if I think a player does not try. Last night he tried. So your comment was out of order.