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26 Aug 2016 15:47:44
Andreas perriera to granada on loan - confirmed

Hope he does well.

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1.) 26 Aug 2016 16:14:09
Hope he shines over there but disappointed someone hasn't taken a chance on him in the premier league to give him some proper premier league experience.


2.) 26 Aug 2016 17:21:43
Yeah, but maybe PL were not guaranteeing him play time and Granada did. THey have a small squad and hopefully Andreas sets the La Liga alight.


3.) 26 Aug 2016 21:22:03
i was thinking exactly that! Jose obviously picked them out because they would guarantee playing time for Perriera.
Just as he tried to get him a move to Fulham, where he is friends with there manager, i assume Jose has also got a good relationship with Granada to.

I want him to do well, he's a cracking player and tbh i rate him as highly as Lingard even higher. he's a real star, he would be a big big loss if we was to let him go!


4.) 27 Aug 2016 08:10:34
Cr92

He now has to show he can be the real star you think he is. Some develop late but if he doesn't shine there then time may be up for him as a United player.


5.) 27 Aug 2016 09:23:19
Great move for him. Needs gametime and at Granada he will get plenty and be able to showcase how good he actually is.


6.) 27 Aug 2016 22:45:00
Red Man Every time he's played for the 1st team, he's had a good game and even scored some. I've been watching our reserves and U18s for along time and he's up there with some of our best that have come through. He has a good attitude compared to Ravel and the same kindve of flair and skill Pogba had at that age. He sh*ts all over the reserves and literally cannot be touched, if he's played consistently at granada and against some of the lower teams in la liga, there is no reason he won't light it up.


7.) 28 Aug 2016 10:22:40
Cr92 completely agree I have been pushing his case for ages If he is good enough to captain a Brazil under 23 team he is good enough.


8.) 28 Aug 2016 22:58:41
Then why hasn't he played?


 

 

11 Jun 2016 07:49:12
Ok, its silly season again. I tried searching for that piece by ed002 about the various tyoes of clauses and how they work, but to no avail. Can someone please post it here? Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - This is a horribly complex area not least because they are written under individual national laws.

The "buy out" clause is legally binding between a club and a player. The "buy out" is effectively what it says - a means for the player to buy himself out of the contract. As an example, if a player wishes to buy himself out of a contract, he pays the applicable FA (on behalf of the club) the amount of the "buy out" clause effectively becoming a free agent. The problem is that in most cases a player would need to obtain that money from the buying club - and this is fraught with issues regarding "tapping up" and, of course, taxation as it can be seen as income for the player and would therefore be subject to income tax. There was a test case about the taxation issue in Spain about three years ago. So "buy out" clauses are very rare.

A "release clause" is far more common in that it gives a figure that the club would accept for the sale of a player to another club - but it is not legally binding except where both parties are in the same country (for the sake of argument I should say that Spain and Portugal count as the same country as do England and Wales) for legal purposes. These are normally unreasonably high figures (Messi at Barcelona for example) introduced to act as a deterrent for hostile bids - and even then the club could easily block a move. However, if a club does agree to match a release clause then the selling club would be obliged to ask the player if he is interested - there is no obligation on the player to make a move. For interested clubs outside of the country the selling club may use it as a guide but are under obligation to accept a bid.

There is then the becoming popular "termination clause" which is binding between the player and the club and if met would see an offer from anywhere accepted and the player given the opportunity to make a call on a move. This overcomes the issues associated with "buy out" clauses as the money would be paid by one club to another.}


1.) 11 Jun 2016 10:40:50
Thank you Ed, legend as always. But out of curiosity, does that mean that the Suarez 'Release Clause' that was reported when he was at Liverpool was misleading info (shock horror)?

Arsenal reportedly bid the 40million clause but it was turned down. As they're in the same country that would have been impossible by what you've said, so am I right in assuming that we were given misinformation by the news outlets over this?

{Ed002's Note - The situation with Arsenal was that with Suarez desperate to leave the previous summer Liverpool had agreed that if any offer over £40M was made then Suarez would be allowed to move if he wanted to. This was not a buy out or release clause but what is now becoming more popular – a termination clause. At the time, the expectation was that Real Madrid would step in (which was what Suarez then wanted) with an offer but it was far too low for Liverpool to accept. Arsenal made the offer of £40M plus £1 as Guardiola was unsure whether it was “£40M and above” or “over £40M” – there was nothing wrong with that. At the time, as this was seemingly the only way out of Liverpool, Suarez was willing to accept this as a stepping stone to one of the major Spanish clubs, but the Liverpool board blocked it. Suarez's agents took legal advice and were set to argue that Arsenal matched the clause that allowed to leave and that they should allow the player to discuss the transfer with Arsenal as soon as is possible. They would then look to leverage this legal position to stop Liverpool blocking the transfer and were willing to use the £2M then due the player as an incentive in order to facilitate the transfer. Suarez would have moved to Arsenal given the opportunity and this is when he started his campaign against the club regarding broken promises etc.. That summer, Liverpool agreed that he would be able to leave the following summer, regardless – this was done to avoid any potential legal battle. By the following summer Barcelona were interested and that suited Suarez – better than Madrid he tells the Catalan media when they ask. If the matter had of gone to court there would be no doubt the move could have been forced. An appeal would have perhaps been considered by Liverpool but that would have potentially dragged on long enough to stop Suarez playing for anyone until it was resolved – and that could have had disastrous consequences for Liverpool.}


2.) 11 Jun 2016 10:48:02
Well that cleared up a question I've wondered for years now, so thank you Ed. Always appreciated.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome Mike.}


3.) 11 Jun 2016 12:17:14
Thank you so much ed
Really appreciate it.

{Ed002's Note - No problem.}


4.) 11 Jun 2016 20:28:15
Ed002,
I'm a big Suarez fan and was always gutted he wasn't allowed to join us.

Your reply has cleared up a lot of issue's.

Glad he didn't join us now.

Thank you Ed.


 

 

01 Sep 2015 21:55:38
Ed002
I assume you wouldn't want to talk about this but can you please explain what happened in the pedro fiasco.

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{Ed002's Note - Last summer Barcelona would have listened to significant offers for Pedro but nobody would bite. Manchester City, Arsenal and Manchester United are known to have enquired with his agent earlier in 2014. PSG spoke with Barcelona about the player in the summer of 2013 and in January 2014. This summer he was always going to move. Arsenal's interest remained as did that of Inter, but neither were intersted at the asking price. An unsolicited approach was made to Manchester United to see if they were interested as well, but initially they are not. With Salah leaving this summer it was Chelsea who pushed for a deal once the elections were over. Barcelona did look to using him as part of a convoluted part exchange with Kovacic but no deal could be struck with Inter. Manchester United came in with an offer that was less than that of Chelsea - both of which were a long way short of the asking pice. Chelsea, aware of Manchester United interest, sent Marina Granovskaia to complete the deal with the authority to act as she thought best. And that was it. The package offered to Barcelona was accepted. The package offered to the player required little or no negotiation.}


1.) 01 Sep 2015 22:05:32
Thanks a lot ed.


2.) 01 Sep 2015 23:00:42
Seems a lot less of a 'fiasco' when you put it like that, shock horror the press make united look stupid again.


3.) 03 Sep 2015 07:33:32
so nothing to do with a 60 second phone call from the 'ordinary one' as he claimed

{Ed002's Note - Pedro had permission t o speak with Chelsea and both the coach and one of the players spoke with him, as did an ex-Barcelona player who is long retired.}


 

 

31 Aug 2015 12:09:16
A statement from the FFF read: "Anthony Martial was presented Monday at 11:00 at the gathering of the France team at Clairefontaine. He requested from Didier Deschamps permission to travel to England to sign a contract with Manchester United.

"Given the exceptional circumstances, the coach has acceded to the request of the player.

"Anthony Martial left Clairefontaine Monday at 12:00. He will return on Tuesday morning."

Sorry for copy paste but its a direct quote.

imightbesomeone

1.) 31 Aug 2015 12:21:10
I don't like to use this symbol ">", but Martial > Chicharito. Will do very well in Manchester, had the chance to watch him last season. Stil inconsistent, but very young and very talented. This is the way United do business, sign young talant that people will talk about. And it really surprised me that he's called by the French coach. More transfers please ;)


2.) 31 Aug 2015 12:23:29
I am very happy that we are signing some one so young with so much potential but I am bothered with the price quoted. But the market nowadays is crazy. This guy can become the next O'henry or may flop with the price dropping so low in a couple of seasons.


3.) 31 Aug 2015 12:53:08
As I said before, we, as fans, don't have to care about the transfer fees, ins and outs.


4.) 31 Aug 2015 13:34:02
Ziko mate I agree but ins and outs are directly related to the price tag I am afraid.


5.) 31 Aug 2015 13:48:12
I didn't understand you. I'm saying that I don't care if we sign someone for 1 or 1m. All I care is what he is doing on the pitch :)


6.) 31 Aug 2015 14:00:49
Ronnie is going to be delighted that we are signing a 19 year old.


7.) 31 Aug 2015 14:02:35
potentially a great prospect but does this signing do anything to our current situation? unless this lad hits the ground running and gets plenty of game time then were no nearer to addressing the lack of goals.time will tell


8.) 31 Aug 2015 15:00:29
GDS,

Your a funny one, all we need know is Aymeric Laporte to sign and a top draw keeper!

If we are gunna splash, get Griezmann in too! Or maybe Reus?


 

 

21 Jun 2015 08:54:58
Looks like we've signed Dayot Upamecano, 16 yrs old cb. Good luck to him.

imightbesomeone

1.) 21 Jun 2015 09:35:52
For some reason I thought we signed him already in January, have we signed someone with a simular name to him before now?


2.) 21 Jun 2015 12:48:08
1Redarmy

It was reported he visited Carrington back in January but we couldn't reach an agreement, reports say we have now. Highly rated young defender to add to the young Dutch lad Mensah


3.) 21 Jun 2015 13:33:11
Hope he makes it just for the chants - Day Ot, Day Ot, Day ot - whenever we have a corner, opponents will crap themselves when we are in full voice!


4.) 21 Jun 2015 13:59:31
Cheers Red Man


5.) 21 Jun 2015 17:12:29
Is he Belgian?


 

 

 

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18 Dec 2016 20:12:06
Not united related but this really confounded me so I'll share. Whenever i see a bad refereeing decision i think incompetence is the only thing at play. I've never thought that a referee would deliberately make a bad decision. But then today I was watching the fifa world club finals and sergio ramos, whilst already being on a yellow card, made an obvious card worthy foul which the referee spotted. Then he called ramos, put his hand in his pocket to take out the yellow card, only to probably realize what that would mean and then just sent ramos away. You have to see the video to believe it. Maybe there is a better explanation for the situation but i just can't think of any.

imightbesomeone

1.) 18 Dec 2016 21:10:12
Could probably do with a football/ sports conspiracy theory page ;)


 

 

27 Oct 2016 08:48:24
Next up Burnley.
And they will not be pushovers. I think outside the "big teams", Burnley cover the most ground in their matches. They're the kind of team we usually have some problems with. And they beat pool too.
Not as easy a match as some would like to think.

imightbesomeone

1.) 27 Oct 2016 09:24:52
drew 1 lost 6 since they beat liverpool . no easy games but this is one we should win.


2.) 27 Oct 2016 09:44:14
We should smash them. Let's not pretend this could be a banana skin.


3.) 27 Oct 2016 10:12:06
they look decent at home but away they don't look great, 3 points is a must, same team except for martial to come in for ibra, looks like he needs a rest.


4.) 27 Oct 2016 10:17:06
Jred,

Didn't they beat Everton last weekend? Their home form is always good, at old Trafford we should beat them, but it won't be easy, no game ever is.


5.) 27 Oct 2016 10:26:57
I hadn't seen that jred. Been a bit busy with classes.
That changes my perspective. 4-0 it is.


6.) 27 Oct 2016 11:10:22
GDS2 you are wrong. We should be expectant of a very good victory against Burnley at home. None of this it will be a tough game rubbish. It is only tough if we make it tough.


7.) 27 Oct 2016 11:48:58
gds i thought they got beat, might be wrong .
if that's the case we will be lucky to get a draw then.


8.) 27 Oct 2016 12:35:43
We will win but i don't think it will be pretty, this will be our 5th game in 13 days 4 of which we have had little to no rotation, physically it is going to take a toll. We need to get an early goal on Saturday or it could be messy for us.


9.) 27 Oct 2016 12:37:26
Every game is tough in England. Just as pep is finding out.


10.) 27 Oct 2016 12:37:26
Every game is tough in England. Just as pep is finding out.


11.) 27 Oct 2016 13:11:35
Totally agree with Maze. If we are saying Burnley is a tough game then God help us. We have to beat them and beat them convincingly simple as that. We cannot keep making excuses. It's pathetic.


12.) 27 Oct 2016 13:30:25
The Clarets beat everton 2-1 done them and pool. Yippee! Haven't lost at home but haven't won away.


13.) 27 Oct 2016 13:57:11
For once I agree with maze!


14.) 27 Oct 2016 20:35:46
I don't think there are any easy games. But we should be beating burnley at home without excuses. They do very well at home but struggle for results away from home. They beat us last time they were in the epl at turf Moore.
A win at the weekend will give us some momentum and while we have not been playing great stuff we have only be beaten once in the last7 albeit a bad beating.
Some players have been under performing no doubt about it but for me is still early days and there is a lot more to come from this squad.
Hopefully miki can overcome what ever issues there is and earn his place in the team and players luke ibra shaw pogba and martial raise their game to the levels of herrera mata and Valencia.
Central defence is still a cause for concern but we are trying to strengthen in that area for January. 6 points is not insurmountable by any stretch of the imagination. With the exception of arsenal and Liverpool for me no other team is lightning it up yet and history tells us that those two clubs have a self destruct mode that will kick in.
City will get over their slump too and spurs look formidable on their day but I think we will rise to the challenge. It's still October I reckon we will be in the hunt come April.


15.) 28 Oct 2016 08:16:32
Guys. We should be winning this game no excuses.


 

 

26 Oct 2016 10:48:22
Ok. Till now i was giving the mikki situation the benefit of the doubt that he's either injured or not matchfit.
But if he doesn't start or even make the bench today, there's a problem.

imightbesomeone

1.) 26 Oct 2016 12:29:22
Think Ed 002 gives a reason/ insight on the main rumours page:) Was hoping he would have had a big impact on the attacking front but I think time might be running out -hope I'm wrong ;as a club it seems that the recruitment side is not achieving the results it should given the transfer figures quoted.


 

 

22 Oct 2016 15:00:27
Nobody brought this up strangely.
But don't you think that tomorrow's match is the most important one for jose in the whole league? I think he'd want nothing but a win.

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20 Sep 2016 06:17:48
I think I'm on some kind of naughty list because a pic i posted didn't get through.
Here's what it said though. It was a rank wise list of all the PL teams according to how much total distance they've covered so far.
Liverpool are top, followed by city, spurs and Burnley. We are rock bottom. 20th
Now THIS is worrying. Pool have covered a total of 581.6 kms and we've covered only 526.6kms so far. We can discuss formations all we want but i think this is very telling about what we actually need to change.

imightbesomeone

1.) 20 Sep 2016 09:25:45
It might not have been posted as its one statistic without any context.

Some might argue it shows a lack of pressing from our team. As with Klopp and Pep now in the EPL along with managers such as Pochettino. The high press has taken over as the in vogue football tactic.

Five years ago it was possession, if you had possession you had control, ironically back then a stat that showed your team ran further was generally considered a bad thing as it ment you didn't have control of the game.

These things go in cycles, long passes could well be the next in vogue idea as its one way of over comjng the high press. The opposition press you, but before they win back the ball you play a long pass over the top cutting out their midfield and setting up an attack.
As high pressing was introduced to over come possession hogging teams. Let them have the ball in their defensive third but the moment they try to move out you press them and try amd win the ball, if you do you hit them with a quick counter.

Its rock paper scissors. And it will keep going round in circles.


2.) 20 Sep 2016 11:32:26
Shappy
You say this as if possession and pressing can not be applied simultaneously which is exactly what someone like Barcelona do.

{Ed025's Note - to do that IMBS you need very good players ala barcelona, you cant do it with the likes of blind, herrera, darmian and smalling in your side, you cant make a silk purse out of a sows ear mate..


3.) 20 Sep 2016 12:36:31
IMBS, exactly who are you pressing when you have possession of the ball?

Obviously you will have to press teams to win the ball back. But the difference is the intention.

For me a pressing team will for go a certain amount of possession, you do this so you can press win the ball back and counter before the opposition have a chance to get into their defensive shape. Pressing is counter attacking football. Some may opperate a high press as their players suit having the ball close to the oppositions goal ie they are nimble clever players. Others will invite the opposition on to them to create space behind as they have quicker players.

Possession football is about controlling the movement of the ball to open up space and create overloads to carve open the opposition.


4.) 20 Sep 2016 12:57:40
Of course ed025. I wasn't asking us to play like barca. I realize our team isn't good enough for it.

Shappy.
That is exactly what i am saying. That they are 2 independent things. When you have the ball, you play possession. When you don't, you press. They are possible in one team. That is how city are playing too now.


 

 

 

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03 May 2017 10:05:03
Angelred
Then he should speak directly to the player. Not make sarcastic jibes on tv. That helps no one.

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03 May 2017 06:02:28
I'm with jred here. It's almost like jose thinks a player can will himself back to fitness.

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08 Nov 2016 20:42:33
I think jones was injured as usual. Just didn't have the balls to say it to jose 😁.

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01 Nov 2016 18:33:52
Thank goodness. Are there any strikers we are looking at ed?

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27 Oct 2016 08:43:41
Missing a decimal in there.

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07 Jun 2017 18:21:02
I'd rather buy the other madrid striker.

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23 May 2017 12:09:20
Semedo?

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20 May 2017 09:43:57
I'd rather believe flat earthers.

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17 May 2017 15:25:33
For starters, james won't be surrounded by the kind of players that ozil was at madrid.

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17 May 2017 12:32:10
Ed004
Where do you see pogba playing if he's bought?

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{Ed004's Note - Depends on who we are playing. I'm expecting us to play 4231 mostly at home games next season and Pogba has shown he is good enough and capable of running the midfield from deep against the majority of sides we face. However, when we are away from home or facing top opposition (City etc) at home we will probably play a 433 with Herrera coming in to partner Pogba and add more energy and defensive covering. James would then be competing for a wide spot (where he has played before)}