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18 Mar 2018 13:52:36
Heard that Martial wants to leave for Juventus. Don't know whether it's true or not but I think if any team offers what we paid for him ten we should sell him. There are many who will talk about his potential and stuff but without the right attitude potential is useless.
He has more potential than Rashford but I can guarantee that Rashford will be twice the player Martial would ever become. His link up play is not upto the standard and it's just sad to see him take on the defender on the wings. Everyone can see how easily Rashford can go past on the wings but Martial just runs into the player losing the ball. Rashford makes the opposition nervous with his pressing and you can even see someone his goals have come as a result of him never giving up.
Many will say he will be great under Pochetino or someone else. But can you guys actually see him succeeding under Pochetino or Klopp. They ask a lot from their players and Martial would just fail to deliver. Try to put him in a Spurs team and decide for yourself who will he replace in the front 4. I was very excited when he came and I hope he proves everyone wrong and becomes the best player in the world with us but I just don't understand what type of formation or playing style will suit him so that he can jump into that bracket of world class players.

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1.) 18 Mar 2018 16:11:35
You can guarantee Rashford will be twice the player Martial will be can you?


2.) 18 Mar 2018 17:21:40
Play Martial up top or sell him if we get what the board deem a suitable offer.

He’s a 1 in 5 player and that’s nit good enough at Utd despite his age. Rashford has more potential than Martial in my opinion. Not sure it needs to be one or the other though. I’d ditch Zlatan and give him a season rotating with Lukaku up front. However Maybe his sulky demeanour is just too much for Jose and he just doesn’t have what it takes.


3.) 18 Mar 2018 17:39:07
Word is there is a new deal on the table for martial.


4.) 18 Mar 2018 19:37:07
Ed002 confirmed that juve are in for him but we are a good bit apart from agreeing a fee.
I would be shocked or saddned if he left but it wouldn't shock me if he was kept to see if he can fulfill his potential and claim a regular place in the side. Have to say he is not my cup of tea.


5.) 18 Mar 2018 19:50:03
Zlatan was hardly there this season. He was just here to take some of the money Woodward had been getting in. Don't think Mou trusts Martial up top.


6.) 18 Mar 2018 20:12:38
Other than it’s of pace, Rashford hasn’t actually shown that much quality. His composure and finishing Needs a lot of work, his runnning is the channels isn’t the best, and he makes the wrong decision very often. He has a game where he comes up against a poor full back and rinses him the whole game and people think he’s the best thing since sliced bread again. Martial has much more potential, the quality of his finishing etc is streets ahead of rashfords. He just needs to play regularly as a forward. Martial is NOT a winger.


7.) 18 Mar 2018 20:35:40
Martial is just another example of a young player who needs to be playing in a team which plays to his strengths. He is really good but being played out on the left wing is not going to let his talent shine. Round pegs in round holes. He is going to be awesome if he gets a central attacking role and with a team playing fluent quick football. Not the slow slow pass it a million times we are apt to at the moment.


8.) 19 Mar 2018 08:02:26
Under pochhetino martial would improve undoubtedly, a couple of years under poch and he would be at that hazard and sanchez (pre joining us) level. No reason why martial shouldn't be getting double figures in goals and assists every season.


9.) 19 Mar 2018 10:41:25
If martial can't make it at united our coaching staff aren't fit for purpose. I agree martial is not a winger and should be playing as a striker eventually.


10.) 19 Mar 2018 13:11:23
Maybe, just maybe, we have paid over the odds for an overrated youngster who is also not fit for purpose?


11.) 19 Mar 2018 16:47:17
Maybe just maybe he's played on the wings to develop his all round game and because the £75-90 million striker we have has bagged over 20 goals so far.

Maybe the Juve rumour has popped up because contract talks stalled. Not the first time its happened.


12.) 19 Mar 2018 18:38:13
It’s all rather dull. If he’s sulking ship him out. If he’s angling for a striker position then prove you’re worth it there by smashing every single game you play and every training session there is.

I cannot abide maoning and sulking. Get your head down and prove you belong there. If not, au revoir.

I like Martial as a player, but can’t see him being a world beater I’m afraid.

Too many cruising in this squad for me and Martial is a prime culprit.

All this talk of Poch I don’t get. His team have shown absolutely zero aptitude when it comes to crunch games and pressure to win.

Maybe I’m just being grumpy still but back jose and his decisions or sack him now. If they want a yes man, Jose clearly not your man. The board have no place in making football decisions on team sheets and tactics.


13.) 19 Mar 2018 19:30:56
Eric your talking sense my friend.


14.) 20 Mar 2018 15:40:33
Eric - When have united ever not paid over the odds?

I would say most people rate martial as a good player with potential to be even better. Wouldn't class that as overrated.

Even if you don't think he has potential to go to the next level he surely must be way down your list of united problems?
And surely he has been our best left sided attacker this season? So even if you think he hasn't been good enough often enough there's been plenty worse?

Your point about Jose I agree with. The board back him or sack him.

Anyways here's to next season quadruple.


 

 

06 Aug 2017 17:50:53
Read somewhere that United want Sergi Roberto (personally I think it's bull news just made for the sake of selling papers) . But I just love the guy, so much talent and can play a couple of positions. Doesn't get the game time he wants at Barcelona but can't see him getting minutes at United either.

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1.) 07 Aug 2017 00:10:31
He was constantly played out of position at Barcelona is the press are to be believed 40m euros is far too much.


2.) 07 Aug 2017 12:49:53
Sounds like Barcelona trying to use Utd to get him sold.


 

 

31 May 2015 18:48:59
What happened to the young RB we have on loan to Real Madrid B. I think Varela was his name.

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13 Mar 2018 23:11:33
Wow is this an overreaction?
When I said after the first leg that Seville are the favourites now to go through (giving proper reasons why) , you guys just bashed me and some even told me how we were favourites amongst the bookies.

I posted how I am happy that Fellaini is leaving and that he is useless, people defended him. Now same people are bashing him.

We just got knocked out by the worst team in the CL and people were mocking Spurs. Let's just wait and maybe we'll win a match and all will be forgotten.

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1.) 13 Mar 2018 23:17:40
You happy you were right? Well done you told us so. 0-0 was an ok result away from home if we went out tonight and didn’t play like we won the first leg 3-0, absolute joke of a performance.


2.) 13 Mar 2018 23:30:21
Never mind. We beat Liverpool.


3.) 13 Mar 2018 23:50:41
GDS2 - an away 0-0 is always a risky score but more importantly it was the manner of the draw, no attacking intent at all. Coupled with the embarrassing performance tonight we got exactly what we deserved, we went out in a whimper.
Strange team selection for me, after Sat when people were lauding a José master class why change things so much, a static midfield 2, moving Rashford presumably to try to get more from Sanchez, leaving Mata out, I really don't understand it.
José has gone from master class to bottom of the class with his team selection / tactics tonight and the less said about the away leg the better.
If one person could justify or even explain Fellani's selection I would love to hear it.


4.) 14 Mar 2018 08:53:27
Congrats on the beating Liverpool trophy

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Best part i won 600 € betting on Sevilla!


 

 

10 Mar 2018 20:21:02
Great win tonight. Fellaini almost gave away a penalty and that's the reason I'm happy he's leaving. Sometime back people were debating on how if Rashford should be sold, and ofcourse his performances were not upto the point but today he showed his quality. Everyone keeps talking about how we need midfielders and defenders but I just we had someone like martial or rashford for the right side. Someone who can take on a defender with speed and trickery. It's been years since we had any threat going forward from the right side. A good winger will also help in pinning back the opposition LB. Right now the other teams fullbacks are getting too much freedom against us. But today already there was a fear in their RB because of Rashford which also let Salah isolated against Young who did a good job. When Sanchez arrived my first thought was that maybe he'll play there and he actually can do the job over there.

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1.) 10 Mar 2018 21:23:23
I hope the wig stays . Plan but and all that 😆😆.


2.) 10 Mar 2018 21:48:46
Fellani did very well when he came on. He got stuck in to them, great heart that fella.
If he does go I will wish him the very best.


3.) 10 Mar 2018 22:42:44
Wig did mess up but thankfully didn't cost us, but he does a job and has done so many times in some important games.


4.) 11 Mar 2018 10:47:53
I can't feel the love for fellaini. I just don't think he's the kind of player I want in my team. But credit where its due, the guy knows he isn't loved, but still works his ass off and does the job asked of him. He's very professional and when he leaves I wish him nothing but success.


 

 

06 Mar 2018 13:39:35
Great to see us win from 2 goals behind. But Pogba and Sanchez were just pathetic throughout. Sanchez wants to play on the left but doesn't even try to take on the opposing right back and stretch him out of position ( which rashford did brilliantly as soon as he came on ) . Pogba and Sanchez basically play in the same position on the left trying to cut and play a through ball or 1-2 which doesn't work out as the defenders are too narrow. There is no one to work on the wings.
To get the best out of these two I think they should be used in a 4-3-3 formation playing either side of Matic in the middle. They like to come back a lot anyways so it will be much more suited to these guys and they will have more space to work while the front 3 engage the defenders. It will be a comparatively new position for Sanchez but he isn't doing anything in the front 3. He looks frustrated during the match as if his teammates are playing bad and the very next second he loses the ball.
Pogba and Sanchez will have to work extra in a mid 3 role and Sanchez with his work rate will be able to do it. Pogba will have to work and concentrate harder.
In case we are playing against top opposition then we can play Mctominay in the middle with Matic and sacrifice an attacking player.

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1.) 06 Mar 2018 14:42:59
Haha you want to play Sanchez in midfield 😂😂.


2.) 06 Mar 2018 14:44:15
I think you're right about Sanchez and Pogba wanting to operate in the same space but I don't agree with Sanchez in midfield although I admit it would be an interesting experiment.

Two solutions I think would work better is for Sanchez to play on the right and come inside like mata does. Rashford and Martial can provide width on the left.

Alternatively, Sanchez and Pogba need to develop an understanding so Sanchez comes inside and Pogba occupies the space he has vacated.


3.) 06 Mar 2018 15:00:50
I think matic will have something to say about that lol. Poor man can barely do his own defensive duties, let alone pogba and sanchez's as well.


4.) 06 Mar 2018 15:14:57
If Sanchez could play on the right it would solve a lot of problems but at the moment he just seems incapable of doing that. Coming in from the right is also not easy for him as he's a right footed player. Sanchez in my opinion has created more problems for us since he joined. Our last few matches with or without him would have made no difference.


5.) 06 Mar 2018 15:29:58
Dsg I understand that it would mean more responsibility on Matic. But I'm not saying to use him against the likes city or Tottenham. But against weaker sides who are very difficult to break down once they get narrow. I anyways don't think Jose would do anything remotely similar against good oppositions where his main focus is to defend.


6.) 07 Mar 2018 00:26:38
Play Pogba right wing.


 

 

22 Feb 2018 06:12:49
Missed the game yesterday. Woke up and saw it was a draw. First came to this site to see the general opinion. It felt that it was an OK result, we didn't attack much but did well defensively. Then I saw the extended highlights. There was I think 1 chance which could have been a goal in which Lukaku missed the chance. On the other hand they missed a lot of chances and we could have easily lost. We had that 1 win against spurs where Martial came on and scored against tired legs and now mourinho thinks he has found some kind of a masterplan and tries to do that repeatedly. De gea and the other team scuffing their chances were the only positives to take away from the match. It was a match that the other team deserved to win. With all the English teams performing well it was even more embarrassing. We are the underdogs now when they come to OT. If we score 1st we will sit back and they can even win the tie by equalising in the 90th minute. If they score 1st then I have no faith in our team that we will score 2 against them. I have full faith in mourinho and he is of course much more intelligent than any of us but the problem with him is that he is not evolving with time. This has all the makings of a disastrous season for us. And if anyone thinks we will be in top 4 come the end of season then just take a look at points table and our form.

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1.) 22 Feb 2018 08:00:05
DDG did the DDG thing to keep us from conceding.

We didn't play well. There's no cohesion at all in our team.


2.) 22 Feb 2018 09:10:52
What did Sevilla do to deserve to win? Have loads of really rubbish shots? They kept the ball but had no end product, De Gea made one good save, the rest any of us would have saved, most of them sailed well wide.

I presume Jose thinks that we will be good enough to beat them at home, I fully agree and can't wait to go in 19 days time, can't beat a big European night at OT.

{Ed025's Note - i do admire your positivity GDS but there is a difference between that and blind faith mate, if you are happy with the way UTD are playing then it just shows how far standards have dropped..


3.) 22 Feb 2018 09:31:31
Ed,

I decided to watch the 2nd half last night without the chat room as the negativity gets to me and makes me miss parts of the game. I enjoy watching United play win, lose or draw, we aren't as good as we once were at the moment but I'm not spoilt enough to think I have to support a team that is amazing. I obviously differ from everybody else on here but I know a lot of my mates and matchgoing reds agree with me, so I don't think this is the place for me anymore.

{Ed025's Note - i happen to enjoy your posts GDS and admire your faith, i just feel that sometimes you have to call a spade a spade mate, 2nd in the league and last 16 of the CL is not to be sniffed at and as a means to an end you have a good point, but i have always believed that UTD were above that and were the benchmark when it came to entertainment and creative football, i hope you change your mind as its good to have different views being expressed on here but its all about perspective, if they play well then by all means laud it up but if they are poor then its ok to express that as well, in the end its all about opinions and on that there is no right or wrong..


4.) 22 Feb 2018 18:10:19
You're right, Ed. They were. But they aren't any more. And trying to get that back is clearly much harder than we all imagined, especially without SAF, Gill, and taking way too many years to rebuild our midfield and defence.

{Ed025's Note - in my view you have the wrong man at the helm arnie which is holding you back, you have the creative players and the wherewithal to improve the squad if need be but set up not to lose rather than win mate..


 

 

13 Feb 2018 14:53:08
Most of the points have been covered by you guys, so I'm not going to talk about that. But when the season started a lot was said about our team average height and the physicality of the players. I can't remember a single goal we've scored from corners this season (I hope they have scored atleast 1). TBH I'm always concerned when we concede a corner. We've had no proper free kick taker for years. Maybe someone like mata scores once in a season. If my life depended on someone scoring a penalty, I won't pick anyone from United.

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1.) 13 Feb 2018 15:49:19
spot on mate. I think we are ok while attacking set pieces but the service has been poor. Same can't be said about defending set pieces and crosses from open play.

Game against huddersfield we were trying to play through the middle and it was clearly not working as we were slow to create anything which gave them time to organise easily ( this has been the case with most teams ) . in the second half as soon as the first cross came in from open play by mata, lukaku scored.

Not against playing through the middle as it now suits most of our players but having a striker like lukaku upfront its shocking we aren't trying to cross more through the wings.


 

 

 

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23 Mar 2018 13:10:21
Now media is trying to just find the smallest of things and making it sensational. If we believe them half of the squad is unhappy with the coach and each other. Just read yesterday that Mourinho was unhappy with Pogba because he congratulated Mou mid interview after the Liverpool victory.

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18 Mar 2018 19:50:03
Zlatan was hardly there this season. He was just here to take some of the money Woodward had been getting in. Don't think Mou trusts Martial up top.

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18 Mar 2018 11:52:34
Every match I've seen Gueye in, he does nothing. Just loses the ball all over the field. We already have plenty of those type.

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13 Jan 2018 16:06:08
Well Ronnie don't mean to be rude but you might have named atleast 200 players by now. It might be difficult for United hierarchy to properly understand which one you want.

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04 Sep 2017 18:56:02
Just because we don't have Griezman doesn't make him better than Mkhi and Mata. We've waited whole of last season for Mkhitaryan to get familiar to the league and it doesn't make sense to shift him to the right for someone who isn't even at the club. Who knows what will happen till next summer. Maybe Monaco produce one more world class player and we go all out for him rather than Griezman.

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09 Apr 2018 05:33:51
There would not have been such an uproar if we had won against Seville. We might have lost to a stronger team in the next round and the fans would have been happy with all the progress we made this season. Mourinho would not have come out with his rant and the media would have had less to gossip about our club. The loss in that game created such a negative atmosphere that no one could see any improvement in the team. But this City game has brought some calmness back, specially the way in which we won.

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01 Apr 2018 06:28:15
Us United fans just don't want to accept that City are too good for this league right now. Only one team Liverpool have shown this season how to beat a full strength City team. And even then city almost made it a draw once the Liverpool players were tired. High pressing throughout the game and not missing your chances is the only way. If you miss they might strike on the counter. Year after year there has been some team that looks great but the very next season teams figure out what to do against them. But it looks next to impossible for teams to counter the style of city unless there are drastic changes in the style of play and technical abilities of the players in this league.
Guardiola has very much adapted his game to counter the English teams. This City team is not playing like his Barcelona team. This team when compared to his Barcelona team is more aggressive when they don't have the ball and their buildup with the ball is much quicker. Teams like United, Chelsea etc who have much better players than the mid or bottom table teams were not able to put 3 passes together so how can we expect these other teams to give them a fight.

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19 Mar 2018 13:03:34
The problem with him is it seems he's not giving 100%. He got his big money move and thought that he has achieved it all. He still has time but he has to show that he wants it badly. Look at Sane, Jesus or Asensio, players same age or maybe younger but they show their class. They might go through rough patch but whenever they get the chance they give it their all.
Martial has the attitude of a frustrated Sanchez just about to cry everytime they lose the ball. Why not go after the ball and show some determination. Ronaldo reached at that level because of his relentless work ethic. He decided he wants to become the best in the world and worked on it. Martial has been deployed on the wing for the past few seasons, so why not work on that. How long will we continue to think that his best position is striker. He can easily become the best but he just looks uninterested.
Maybe Martial and others aren't able to perform to their full capabilities because of the managers style and added pressure on them to get back to defend quickly. Maybe they are afraid to try something new as they are afraid that they might lose their place in the team if they do something wrong. But that's the point which separates the good ones from the ones that could never fulfill their potential. Maybe Martial needs a fresh start or maybe he can go on loan to some big team.

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18 Mar 2018 20:22:57
United of last 2 seasons has been about somehow getting the 1st goal. First few matches this season we finished the matches strong with goals coming in counter attacks after 80th minute. I wasn't excited as much as others because I could see the similarities from the season before in which we started great with Ibra and company. But this time the plus point was that our counter attacks were more swift and players had better understanding.
Then came the Stoke match where Jose had to make changes to the winning unbeaten team because he is such a tactician and we lost, with some fight I might add. Few matches of getting over the line and then the disaster against Liverpool which just shattered the players confidence in themselves and their teammates.
This is not a team of winners (past few seasons) as Jose himself has pointed out they never recovered and few losses here and there were no help. On the other hand watching City destroying teams might have had an effect also. The tactics didn't help either.

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18 Mar 2018 19:46:41
Nagelsmann, only problem that some players might think they are bigger than him.

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