18 Jun 2020 10:16:29
Werner to Chelsea official! Good bit of business that for Chelsea. surprised Liverpool didn't match them.

1.) 18 Jun 2020
18 Jun 2020 11:20:38
I'm sure ED002 said Liverpool would need to sell Firmino, as Werner wouldn't want to go and sit on the bench.

2.) 18 Jun 2020
18 Jun 2020 11:26:59
Fair enough. think he’s the kind of striker Chelsea need so I think he will do well for them unfortunately 😂.

3.) 18 Jun 2020
18 Jun 2020 14:44:21
Werner is a good signing for Chelsea, I'm not sure how he would fit at Liverpool without them either changing shape/ formation or dropping one of their front three. Werner I think has chosen Chelsea ahead of Bayern Munich and Liverpool due to playing time, which is fair enough.

Chelsea are doing a good job in the transfer market. Werner and Ziyech improve their first 11, while I think Frank has done a good job blooding the youngsters during their transfer ban.

4.) 18 Jun 2020
18 Jun 2020 17:42:05
Im not sure about that Shappy. Neither Bayern nor Liverpool bid the money so he didn't have either of them as a choice.
Good player. I think he will do well for Chelsea. 10 times the player abraham is that's for sure.
Along with the lad from ajax and pulisic and odoi they have replaced willian and pedro with 2 very good signings.

5.) 18 Jun 2020
18 Jun 2020 18:59:05
Ken, Klopp went to great lengths to call Werner personally to try and persuade him. In the end Liverpool didn't put a bid in, but to suggest Liverpool weren't an option isn't quite right. I'd imagine had the chats with Klopp had gone differently then maybe Liverpool might have made a bid.
While Bayern spoke to Werner last year and attempted to make a deal happen, it didn't and Werner was apparently annoyed by Bayern resulting in him rejecting their advances.

Clubs don't need to actually place a bid for them to have serious interest in a player, nor does a player need to wait until a bid is placed before rejecting the idea of moving to a club. Bids only tend to be put in once a club has established that a player is interested in making the move. In the case of Werner he apparently made it clear he didn't want to move to Liverpool or Bayern, so they never placed a bid.

6.) 18 Jun 2020
18 Jun 2020 19:13:16
They were not an option if they didn't bid.

7.) 18 Jun 2020
18 Jun 2020 19:30:54
Too be fair shappy i see half your point.
A player can reject advances before a bid is made. I agree with that.
But he can also accept their advances and declare his intent to sign but that is not an option unless a fee is agreed with his club.
For all you know he could have told klopp he would sign but Liverpool were never an option because they wouldn't pay the fee.
Same with bayern last year. He said he would go but Bayern low balled RB so bayern were never an option even though he declared his intent to sign.
So any player can give an indication or state intent to sign and then a fee not agreed so it never was an option.
I think ed002 said klopp unsettled the player and as a result RB were annoyed and were more intent on selling him elsewhere as long as a fee was agreed.

8.) 19 Jun 2020
18 Jun 2020 21:16:57
Although Werner is a very good player i wouldn't want him in our team. First he is good but i think not a class act, his game is based in pace to burn and he doesn't perform week in week out. But most importand (and is just my opinio) i see Greenwood following a similar path to Rashy.

He is clearly talented with both feats, good movement, i think he is a really good lad who works hard and with a top mentality. Correct me if i am wrong but in recent photos i think he is to bulked up a little so in 1-1,5 year maybe he is ready to lead our front line. So i prefer our own player.

9.) 19 Jun 2020
19 Jun 2020 08:46:40
Klopp want to great lengths to tap him up to be more accurate.

{Ed001's Note - Shappy is wrong, Werner came out very publicly about wanting to join Liverpool, which caused the problems with RBL.}

10.) 19 Jun 2020
19 Jun 2020 09:32:29
I seem to remember him saying something similar about us not so long ago.

11.) 19 Jun 2020
19 Jun 2020 15:49:48
Hi Ed001, how have you been? Hope you've been doing well during C.V.
How do you feel about Werner, would you have liked to have signed him?

{Ed001's Note - he would have been a very good signing for the long term, but not sure he was really what Liverpool needed right now. I would much rather see Curtis Jones given the time Werner would get, as he was never going to be a starter ahead of any of the front 3. So yes and no really. Personally I am glad the club is being prudent and cutting back on outgoings due to the huge loss in revenue. I would rather not end up back where we were when G&H were in charge, when they were hit by a similar situation financially.}

12.) 19 Jun 2020
19 Jun 2020 16:13:05
He also publicly said he wanted to join us and Bayern. If I'm remembering correctly wasn't the clause in his contracted added with Bayern Munich in mind?

{Ed002's Note - It was added after discussions with Bayern Munich.}

13.) 19 Jun 2020
19 Jun 2020 17:18:04
He might have said he wanted to join us or bayern but neither were an option. Neither side agreed a fee with RB.
Wishful thinking on his behalf maybe, but not options.

14.) 19 Jun 2020
19 Jun 2020 19:09:07
Both Bayern and Liverpool have shown a strong interest in Werner in the past and earlier this year. While he was available for a fairly low fee considering his talent, I would find it very odd that neither would have made a move for him unless they can't afford to given the new state of play with C.V. Or that he told them through intermediaries (as directly is tapping up) that he wasn't interested.