17 Sep 2020 19:51:05
Regretably we did not, as I had been told, pretty reliably, Reguilon has apparently gone to Spurs. I don't like relaying info unless I trust it, despite this being a rumours site and I rarely post.

As I understand it Zidane had been absolute that he didn't want the player and wanted gim sold to generate funds. He also believes he has good enough options. The deal was all agreed, but then Perez via another director offered him to Spurs as they wanted the buy back and spurs took the bait.

Its a terrible deal and very short term. In effect Spurs have paid €30m during a C.V. with an ability for RM to buy anytime after summer 22 giving 3 months notice for €45m. So if Reguilon smashes it, Spurs must start from scratch in 2 years. Developed the player and get €15m in profit (less the cost of interest on funds to borrow) . If he bombs, Spurs have paid €7.5m per annum over his 4 year contract.

I do want to point out, that Utd walked away when the goalposts changed. They have done so several times in the past 2 years with 7 players they wanted where deals didn't meet the appetite of the club. There is only one exception to this. There is a possibility they also make an exception for Sancho, but this is less about the overall fee, but the type of triggers for add ons and the payment schedule. If those are negotiated the deal will happen, if not it won't.

I see a huge amount of criticism on here, which is natural as we would all love to treat it like Football Manager. But despite mistakes in the first 4 or 4 years, this group is settled into a focus and a plan and has learned a lot. They also are no longer driven by toxic fans in making their decisions.

Nothing they do will ever be seen as good enough. But for me anyway, we no longer sell even our unwanted on the cheap, a practice operated under Gill which only changed under Mourinho in year 1, and that too I applaud. Its about changing the perception of how and why we do transfer business in and out.

1.) 17 Sep 2020
17 Sep 2020 20:20:38
I hope you are right Cheshire. I hope we are going through the transition of learning and good results will follow in time. I only know what I read as I don’t have any connections in the game and negativity gets more press thank when something is going partly right. I am not too fussed about us walking away from a very overpriced player in Sancho, but hopefully the club have alternates lined up and are not backing themselves into a corner. Also, we should have done a lot of our business early. Hopefully we will become better at this sooner rather than later.

2.) 17 Sep 2020
17 Sep 2020 20:51:33
Cheshire they have had months to sort the above out with dortmund,

And we don't do tranfer business we try and mug teams off.

Woodward goes into a tranfer asking do they know who he is. The critisism of the club is justified the lack of footballing people doing the roles they should do is toxic.

If we had a club run the way it should by people who know what they are doing we wouldn't need to rant.

3.) 17 Sep 2020
17 Sep 2020 21:18:11
Always think that the way we act in transfers must annoy clubs and that’s why we always seem to pay top dollar compared to others. Club officials talk, agents talk and I think our reputation proceeds us in a bad way before we even enter into discussions for players.

4.) 17 Sep 2020
17 Sep 2020 21:25:49
My issue is that you don't agree personal terms with a player and don't follow through. It's make the club looks incompetent.

5.) 17 Sep 2020
17 Sep 2020 22:05:44
no affence cheshire but i tend to believe ed02 when he says they are amateurs. i mean who can forget woodward paty line we can do things no other clubs can do. which basicay means him and his motley crew are balls up artists.

6.) 17 Sep 2020
17 Sep 2020 22:12:28
Which 7 players Cheshire Red?

7.) 18 Sep 2020
18 Sep 2020 08:39:49
Do agree with you Cheshire to some extent: they’ve clearly got a plan which involves buying quality young players for the right amount (like other big clubs do) and not be taken for mugs again.

I believe they are planning for a title challenge in 2/ 3 years time, when Liverpool and City have passed their peaks, making sure they’re collecting class youngsters in preparation for that as well as blooding Unser 24s to step up such as Mengi, Hannibal, Garner, Shoretire etc. (I’m also hoping they get Benoit Badashille to add to this future team)

However in the meantime they need to stay in the top 4 which looks tougher given all other teams strengthening. They look short of quality squad depth and need options on the RW (I’d get Brooks and Sarr) as well as a CB (I’d go all out to get Upemecano now) plus the issue of selling unwanted players.

Tbh, I know they’re amateurs compared to the lady at Chelsea but they seem to have a plan. BUT they seem awful at getting rid of players who will never see the first team again and I think there’s a communication backlog in the management chain which prevents them acting quickly and decisively, thus a a D of F needed to grease the wheels.

8.) 18 Sep 2020
18 Sep 2020 09:32:56
I don't understand why anyone praises the "not selling our unwanted on the cheap" policy.

Now, with a player like Lukaku, in the prime of his career and a very good player, who just doesn't fit our style, ok. You want to recoup as much as you can on one like this.

But players like Smalling etc? Totally different. Holding out for this marginally higher fee makes the club look greedy, incompetent, and like they have no respect for players who have given us most of their career.

We used to let these kind of players go fairly cheap. That was a GOOD policy. It let us move on players on large wages and get them off the wage bill. It also improved our image among players, because it told them that we valued their years of service.

Our current policy makes it look like we don't value the years of service, and it is costing us money, because we aren't getting a higher fee, we're just not getting anything while we continue to pay high wages to a player we don't want any more.

9.) 18 Sep 2020
18 Sep 2020 11:11:15
In Reguilon's case, I really wanted us to sign him up.
But we are right to move on if Madrid wanted any sort of buy-back clause.

However, Romano did mention that United didn't meet Real's valuation of 30m.