05 Jul 2021 07:28:34
Twitter, that ever reliable source, going wild with rumours about Camavinga today: United apparently in talks and fee of £30m mooted!

Yep, if it sounds too good to be true, it normally is. Plus can imagine PSG, Bayern, Real etc would be very interested also,

But if remotely true, shows what an effective DoF can do - and all the opportunities missed in the past because of the clunky and beurocratic one at a time system.


1.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 07:54:07
It's all coming from one source though, Fabrizio Romano, who is quite often on the ball when it comes to deals. Did mention that PSG are interested, but it sounds like United are in advanced talks with a fee more or less set as Rennes want to cash in before he becomes a free agent.


2.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 08:11:38
Hi Ed002,
Will Camavinga be a Pogba/ Van De Beek replacement or for Matic?

{Ed002's Note - He would be a cross between NM and PP.}


3.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 08:36:47
The question though would be if he would get any game time under Ole. And whether the player would be happy having a limited role in the first team?

Would Ole trust an 18yr old in his midfield?


4.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 09:29:18
Ed, are the club now making a serious attempt to sign the player?

{Ed002's Note - There is plenty of interest in him.}


5.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 09:41:28
Good signing if it happens, PSG would be a threat though if they made a move for him.


6.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 09:44:23
Thanks Ed. Sounds like Pogba is heading off….

{Ed002's Note - To where?}


7.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 09:58:35
Pogba to PSG?


8.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 10:03:39
Maybe Donny is off, Pogba stays, Bruno, Pogba, Camavinga midfield 3.


9.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 10:09:23
Pogba to PSG is unlikely as he's stared several times he'd be unwilling to move there out of respect for his father who was a Marseille supporter.


10.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 10:11:31
Rennes like many French clubs have been hit hard financially by the circumstances of the past 18 months.

While Camavinga in January would be free to sign a pre-contract with a club outside of France.

They are up against the wall so to speak, they can't afford to lose him for nothing as he's probably their biggest playing asset. But they can't demand the sort of fee he would normally command under different circumstances.

Apparently he would rather remain in France for another couple of years, which personally I think would be best for him. He's young and he needs to be playing 90 minutes of top level football every week to continue to develop.

We have seen a few youngsters move to massive club's a little too early in their careers only do see their development stall as they don't get enough football.

I'd imagine he would need some convincing to join us at this stage in his career.

As for what sort of player is he, well he's everything you'd want Fred to be. A hard working but technically gifted player who is as comfortable playing accurate 50 yard passes as he is sticking his foot in. Good in possession and aggressive out of it.


11.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 10:26:45
Still think it very unlikely we sign Camavinga but I'd be delighted. He's Pogba with a bit of discipline in his game who doesn't need everyone else to do cover his faults.

I'd guess it'd spell the end for Donny if he signed though.


12.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 11:36:51
If this is true and we do, however unlikely, sign Camavinga, it would be a clever move by United:

If Pogba is intent on seeing out his contract and getting him and Mino a huge signing on fee, (most likely I think) then Pogba can be Camavinga mentor for a year to ease him into the first team, where he will then replace Pogba.

Also sends a message to Mini that they will not be held hostage to his demands and sorting Pogba out at last minute as they will have signed his replacement - stay if you want Pogba, situation sorted either way.

United might also be using the prospect of Varane to tempt him also.


13.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 11:52:15
I have a feeling Pogba will be leaving from free next year.


14.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 14:42:23
I bet Camavinga can't wait to be mentored by Pogba on on how to perform silly TikTok dances. How do do silly arm and hand celebrations. What hair colours / styles to have during the season.


15.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 14:56:13
The question should be, is he someone Ole wants or someone the club wants?

No point in buying the kid if our manager has no interest in playing him.


16.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 17:20:50
Well. That went 0 to 100 very quickly😏.


17.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 17:38:49
So Camavinga is more a replacement for Fred and Pogba would move to the left instead of Rashford.


18.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 18:03:31
Maybe Camavinga should follow the route of Dortmund?


19.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 18:44:05
Ed002in regards to pogba

Psg Ed? The highest profile french player possible?

{Ed002's Note - Paul Pogba (CM) offered to Barcelona - may be available as a Free Agent in 2022 - Manchester United have wrecked the relationship with his agent. I doubt that the club would meet any demands which Mino Raiola would want to agree a new contract. They have extended his contract to 2022 and will need to strike a deal with Mino over any sale this summer (I am sure he would be open to taking, say, half of the sale fee) and hope a buyer can be found - this will need to be through a third party. PSG are in discussions to add two MF players but know that at least one of their targets is heading elsewhere. I don't think paying a significant fee for the hostage is part of their plans right now but if something can be done at a reasonable price they do provide an option - don't lose sight of them as a new employer as they are likely the most realistic option - even if they wait until 2022 and take him as a Free Agent. Real Madrid have a preferred target although Zidane would have liked Pogba. Pogba has made it clear he really wants Real Madrid to be his next destination but again the relationship between some in Madrid and Mino is not great. Juventus have other priorities in CM but there have been general talks and he might be a realistic option at the right price - but Juventus would look to including a player in the deal (Federico Bernardeschi) which would be great but he is also represented by Mino who the amateurs don't want to deal with. Juventus have a significant financial advantage due to tax laws in Italy and others departing but are planning on others and won't want to put the funds up for Pogba but at the right price could be tempted. Regardless, Juventus have other targets who would be way ahead of him on their list. So they too don't appear to be an option.}


20.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 18:44:05
Ed002in regards to pogba

Psg Ed? The highest profile french player possible?

{Ed002's Note - Paul Pogba (CM) offered to Barcelona - may be available as a Free Agent in 2022 - Manchester United have wrecked the relationship with his agent. I doubt that the club would meet any demands which Mino Raiola would want to agree a new contract. They have extended his contract to 2022 and will need to strike a deal with Mino over any sale this summer (I am sure he would be open to taking, say, half of the sale fee) and hope a buyer can be found - this will need to be through a third party. PSG are in discussions to add two MF players but know that at least one of their targets is heading elsewhere. I don't think paying a significant fee for the hostage is part of their plans right now but if something can be done at a reasonable price they do provide an option - don't lose sight of them as a new employer as they are likely the most realistic option - even if they wait until 2022 and take him as a Free Agent. Real Madrid have a preferred target although Zidane would have liked Pogba. Pogba has made it clear he really wants Real Madrid to be his next destination but again the relationship between some in Madrid and Mino is not great. Juventus have other priorities in CM but there have been general talks and he might be a realistic option at the right price - but Juventus would look to including a player in the deal (Federico Bernardeschi) which would be great but he is also represented by Mino who the amateurs don't want to deal with. Juventus have a significant financial advantage due to tax laws in Italy and others departing but are planning on others and won't want to put the funds up for Pogba but at the right price could be tempted. Regardless, Juventus have other targets who would be way ahead of him on their list. So they too don't appear to be an option.}


21.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 19:50:20
Cheers Ed. I hope we are sensible with price (my guess €50m? ) as its best for both parties if he moves on. We also have Van De Beek, and it might leave us less competition for, the player this thread was about, camavinga who would both cover his loss.


22.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 21:02:32
Hostage 😂.


23.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 21:56:58
If you were Pogba and wanted to play abroad and knew that next year could do so via a free transfer to a top club and pocket a huge signing fee plus huge wages would you not do so?

He is typical of most modern day footballers who want to play, win things, have a nice lifestyle and maximise their earnings in a short career which is always only one bad injury from being finished.

Allegiance to one club is rare and will increasingly be so. As long as whoever plays gives their all for the team when on the pitch and are not criminals or idiots off it then its something I have to accept.

The other thing to note is the lack of really charismatic managers in Europe not just England. I am talking about managers who make a player want to come to their club and play their hearts out. Apart from Klopp and Pep in our leagues who else is really like that. Abroad maybe Conte and Simeone but that's all. In Scotland Gerrard is that type of manager and in time looks likely to be so at Liverpool.

Such managers make a big difference. With due respect to Ole he is no managerial heavyweight so again it is no surprise he cannot inspire a player like Pogba to stay and sign a long term contract.


24.) 05 Jul 2021
05 Jul 2021 23:19:07
Pogba stays for his final year then goes on a free. Can’t see anyone bidding for him at any amount we’d be happy with given we can’t profiteer from the extended year and would have to share a big chunk with Raiola / Pogba. And they can get a juicy signing on fee regardless next summer.

Van de Beek the interesting one for me. Clearly he looks outward bound too but suspect he was bought when we expected Pogba to go and Sancho to join last season.

Suspect Pogba stays, VDB goes and then turns into a worldie for someone else!


25.) 08 Jul 2021
08 Jul 2021 17:29:56
You could make quite a team from players who contracts expire in 2022. Mbappe, Pogba, Varane, Goretzka, Camavinga, Ronaldo, Dybala.
To me that looks like a Madrid team in waiting and all for no transfer fee.