10 Nov 2021 19:24:31
I read this today. Apparently during one of Ole's 20 defeats at Old Trafford, the opposition dug-out were puzzled when he stayed in his seat as Manchester United conceded a goal, then amused when one of his staff entered the technical area to pass on wisdom and shouted 'Wakey wakey'.

We know Ole and team are not up to it, but seriously are the board going to allow this utter pantomime to continue.


1.) 10 Nov 2021
10 Nov 2021 19:59:25
Blimey. Ed has there been any developments regarding a potential change in the club management / coaching?
Thank you.

{Ed002's Note - What do you have expected to change today.}


2.) 10 Nov 2021
10 Nov 2021 20:37:26
I’m not sure to be honest. A wide range of opinions and views out there presently. Some outlets claiming Rogers will be the next permanent manager, some saying OGS will remain as manager until the Summer, others saying Ralf Rangnik is keen to take over asap.

Given it’s the international break, I did wonder if this might be a more suitable time to make a change (if the club were going to) .

I ask you as you seem to be the only person that actually provides useful and accurate info.


3.) 10 Nov 2021
10 Nov 2021 22:17:02
Ed002 translation TOHOM - No change.


4.) 11 Nov 2021
11 Nov 2021 07:23:31
I don't know if this is true or not, but I do find the timing of it being reported odd.

Nothing about which game it was, or when this happened. But if this wasn't the City game then whoever knew about this didn't publish it for weeks, maybe months. Why?

Now whether this is true or not it doesn't change the fact that Ole isn't good enough and needs replacing. However, if it is fabricated or if it has been sat on until now then you might want to question why a member of the press has done that.


5.) 11 Nov 2021
11 Nov 2021 10:46:31
Would I be surprised if it were true? NO
Do I think it actually happened? Probably not.

Frankly it sounds like one of those stories/ jokes that get so widely spread they eventually are passed on as true. Much like so many transfer and football "news"


6.) 11 Nov 2021
11 Nov 2021 12:58:00
But you have to wonder why they would wait any longer before making a change? This is the ideal time to do it that will have minimal impact on the squad etc.

I’d be amazed if we haven’t approached other clubs and/ or managers over the past two weeks, even if only to make enquiries.

Any accuracy in that Ed? (He asks with fingers crossed)

{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation - nothing has changed.}


7.) 11 Nov 2021
11 Nov 2021 13:09:23
TOHoM, it's simple. The people the club would consider (EtH, Rodgers and Pochettino) aren't available. End of.

So the club's decision is carry on with Ole until one of them is available. Or try and find a short term solution.

The reality is very few people would be prepared to step in on short notice for a short amount of time without getting something else in return.

Rangnick would be interested if it lead to a DoF type role next summer. While managers like Blanc wouldn't consider it unless they had a decent chance of getting the job full time if they do well.

So you're left with options like Bruce or Allerdyce as the only people who might take on a short term role with no hope of a long term position.

The best we can hope for is PSG decide to axe Pochettino and replace him with Zidane sooner rather than later and the club moves for Pochettino. Other than that they will hold on as long as they can with Ole.


8.) 11 Nov 2021
11 Nov 2021 13:16:41
Thanks Ed and Shappy for replies.

‘Available’ though is ambiguous given not one of those 3 is out of contract come the Summer so surely enquires will have to be made to explore whether any of them will be interested?


9.) 11 Nov 2021
11 Nov 2021 13:52:43
Well at least talk of Potter has gone quiet.


10.) 11 Nov 2021
11 Nov 2021 14:19:01
The Wakey Wakey story was reported in the main stream press in an Article about how Ronaldo was shocked at the situation he has found since coming back. It wasn’t tittle tattle from social media.


11.) 11 Nov 2021
11 Nov 2021 14:37:52
Spenno,

Potter is a great tactician and we could do a lot worse.


12.) 11 Nov 2021
11 Nov 2021 14:50:19
Red Man, I'm not saying it was. But your not a fool and know better than to believe everything in the main stream media.

The question is if this didn't happen recently then why only report it now?


13.) 11 Nov 2021
11 Nov 2021 15:17:06
TOHoM, I think by "available" you can assume it means prepared to walk out of their current job mid-season to take over United.

These are people after all, many with young families and moving them, particularly children, half way through a school year is not ideal. People like EtH and Pochettino have families settled in different countries, which might not be suitable to leave their families there until the summer while they work in England.

While any manager currently in a job may actually want to finish the season at that club. Also ask yourself would you want a manager who shows such little integrity to just leave a project halfway through because a shiny now one is offered?

There are a few good managers out there who might work well for our club. But they for one reason or another don't appear to be available to join the club mid-season. So do we hire the wrong man now just to get rid of Ole? Is there any logic in replacing the wrong man with another wrong man?

Let's not pretend sacking managers is easy, or cheap.

Does it make more sense to continue with Ole now and get the right man next summer, rather than sack Ole now hire the wrong man. Still fail this season but be stuck with the wrong manager for next season as well. While the right manager might move elsewhere and become unavailable.


14.) 11 Nov 2021
11 Nov 2021 16:56:21
Have you ever heard of confirmation bias Red Man? Just wondering.


15.) 12 Nov 2021
12 Nov 2021 00:07:55
What makes sense shappy is rangnick until the end of the season then offering him a director role on the footballing side. Then plan as to who we bring in at the end of the season.


16.) 12 Nov 2021
12 Nov 2021 07:00:25
RedWhiskey, I wouldn't be against that. However, the club already has a DoF and a Technical director in both Murtagh and Fletcher.

Will the club want to go down that route which means firing at least one of Murtagh or Fletcher down the line and probably restructuring parts of the club.