04 Dec 2013 23:33:47
Disagree with anyone who says that Moyes inherited a poor or mid table team. He inherited a title winning team with the know how to win matches / titles He also had some very promising youngsters coming through the ranks. This team needed a couple of purchases to strengthen and challenge once again for the title. Without those purchases the squad is still good enough to be in the top 4 and should have been since the 5th game of the season.
My question is - is Moyes a mid table manager or is the current squad a mid table team?

Acker

1.) 05 Dec 2013
Long Rant

It was not long ago where Chelsea went from winning the league to struggling to make 4th place because of an aging team that needed retooling.

Our summer transfer activity has proven to be a poison pill. City did the same mistake the summer before after winning the league, where they failed to buy early and panicked and bought late lot's of players.

This summer will be quite stressful as traditionally a lot of the transfers happen after the world cup and with so many big teams looking to buy, it is a players market given the money that is around. Not expecting much in Jan to be honest as very few top players will move and mostly not available.

People are blaming Moyes for Fellaini but Chelsea bought Willian and how many games has he played.
How many games has Lamella played. How many games has Jovetic played. How many games is Moura or pastor currently getting at PSG and the list goes on and on.

By most people's opinion Ancelloti and Morinho are top coaches and they have made their fair share of buys that has not panned out as expected.

Sometimes it takes players longer to settle in and sometimes they just never pan out. Fergie bought Anderson for 24 million 6 years ago, which is 40 to 45 million in todays market and look at how he has panned out. We have not bought a midfielder in 6 years until Fellaini and lost Scholes, Hargreaves, park and Fellaini so what do you expect.

2.) 05 Dec 2013
Good post God Created United, l think we need to more positive same people were crying year ago that SAF is old he cannt read the game now he can win everything with our team guys let's be serious and be real let's get behind our team and support it.
Susu

3.) 05 Dec 2013
I think the truth is somewhere inbetween.

Moyes hasn't shown in his time so far with Manchester United nor in his time at Everton that he has the capability to be a top level manager. His tactics are a throw back to English & Scottish football of 10-20 years ago.

There are a number of younger managers across the European Leagues who are implementing a better style of football which is exciting to watch and produces results.

Yes I fully agree that the current team isn't great. The factors for last year's title was City imploding, the annual managerial change at Chelsea and Sir Alex.

IMO Sir Alex's greatest strength was his man management and his motivation. He was never the master at tactics.

Unfortunately Moyes is proving he is average at motivating players and average at tactics. We really need a student of the modern game in charge of the club. Look at Klopp at Dortmund, Guardiola at Bayern and Barca, Simeone at Aletico. Even the likes of Laudrup, Martinez, Pottecino are proving that you can create exciting, winning teams without a billion pound chequebook.

All in all Moyes has had 20-30 games and isn't up to the task. Similar to Roy Hodgson and Kenny Dalglish at Liverpool, we need to act and appoint the right type of manager.

Apologies for the length of this post

4.) 05 Dec 2013
ADZ

Guardiola inherited a rolls royce at Bayern and he did not exactly have the toughest job at barca in a league that is generally a 2 team race. Must be nice when you start the year and you know you only have to worry about one team and CL football guaranteed.

All the managers you are talking about have been able to bring in players and influence the makeup of their team. Our manager joined in July and has not had the opportunity to change much and one signing is nowhere near enough.