02 Feb 2014 01:44:59
Realities of a disastrous season is almost upon us. I said a long time ago 72/73 was what was needed for a top 4 placing and that equates to 11 wins out of the last 14, which on current form looks impossible.

If we were to accept it for what it is I wonder if we would not be better off to bleed in the youth players like powel and few other and send guys like Welbeck and Cleverly to the bench for he rest of the season.

I can take the aging players of the current squad underperforming and it is not their fault that we have not spend money on replacements but the younger being this poor is disgusting and really disappointing.

1.) 02 Feb 2014
Totally agree. Some of the senior players just aren't performing. I've never been a Welbeck fan either to be honest.

A lot of blame is put on moyes and if I'm completely honest I'm not sure where I stand on him yet. I'm not sure that we'd improve too much if we changed the manager anytime soon.

One thing you can't blame Moyes for though is only one in five penalties taken in a shoot out being scored. Just one example of our players simply not turning up.

2.) 02 Feb 2014
Im beginning to worry a bit about our lack of creativity.We have 3 of the most creative/accomplished footballers out there with Rooney, Mata and RVP yet clear cut chances seem hard to come by I know the problems stem from our infamous(lack of) midfield and a quite spectacular run of bad luck, injuries, ref decisions but for the first time I am a little concerned with the manager the amount of pressure he is under is massive and i'm worried he will crack and our freefall will be hard and fast.

A year without Champions league does not conrcern me that much I don't think it will have that much of a bearing on who comes in the summer but the obvious lack of confidence from players and manager is disturbing to say the least.

Hopefully the Baggies do us a favour today and this weekend will not be as disastrous as it could have been but we need to start winning games fast if anything just to get that winning feeling back into the club and if we can play our part as fans we should do everything we can because if the players and manager ever needed our support its now.

3.) 02 Feb 2014
There is an air of a classroom out of control when a new inexperienced teacher steps in.

GCU, as appealing as the idea is, the risk is that the atmosphere in the dressing room could become even more poisonous, with senior players resenting their places being usurped by the youngsters. Maybe the way forward is to just let the ship sink as far as it will this season, clear out the flotsam and bring in a few class signings to bring optimism and confidence over the summer, and then bring back the Powells and Zahas and give them a chance.

Moyes will probably get up to Christmas of next year to show that he is the master of the process. If by then, after investment in the summer we are not back on the road towards competing for a Champions League spot, I don't see how the Board will be able to avoid replacing him. The financial structure of the company probably cannot be sustained by a long period of mediocrity.

4.) 02 Feb 2014
Senior players? You mean like 23 year old Welbeck who isn't even a first team starter and in only his 3rd year in the squad? We should be looking at the Rooney, Carrick's and Evras of this world for answers.

5.) 02 Feb 2014
You all make good points. I mentioned that a few weeks back, and I think especially Powell, lingaard and zaha should be given their chance.
Pea also makes a good point, though the only thing I will bring up is, if they backed Moyes with £150m and he brought in players and they didn't perform, what happens in December this year? Sack Moyes? Who is to say that the new manager will want these players?
I think they should evaluate the situation between now and end of season, he has already spent £65m on new players and had 6 months in the job. So we should be able to see something between now and the end of season. If things improve and we can see any positive approach, then that's great, but if things carry on this way, then it is time to bite the bullet and part ways before you give him more money.
My concern is that I can't see what he is trying to achieve, I don't think he knows his best team, the defence and midfield are changed every match, some due to injury, but often, just due to over tinkering. What style of football are we trying to achieve? Martinez has got Everton playing his way, pelligrini the same with city, ancelottti with Real, even pep has stamped his style on the already invincible bayern. But I can't see what Moyes is trying to achieve here? Anyone can enlighten me, I will be more than happy to listen, of course, we can't say he's not got his own team, he had the champions and added januzaj, mata and fellaini. And we are with the Newcastle's of this world!