10 Sep 2014 10:23:20
People having been saying that rooney has been poor in the games played lately but how poor was RVP yesterday.
Just one good pass to Narsingh in the entire game. I wouldn't be surprised if RVP is dropped and rooney mata and falcao are played upfront.


1.) 10 Sep 2014
I don't think rvp has played well for a while now, i'm not sure he has been fully fit for the last 10 month or so


2.) 10 Sep 2014
Completely agree, RVP has looked very poor.
I would go with a front three of Mata, Rooney and Falcao.


3.) 10 Sep 2014
I don't understand why people think that both RVP and Falcao wil be able to play together.

Both are number 9's that drop to the edge of the box, pick it up, drive at a couple of players if needed before finishing.

nobody will be 'dropped' though. It's unlikely that we'll see Falcao start against QPR because of his match fitness.

However I don't expect to see much of a RVP/Falcao partnership forming anytime soon.

It's also worth noting that a HIGH percentage of Falcao's goals have come from him being a loan forward.

When he's paired with someone he's a lot less effective.


4.) 10 Sep 2014
For me it needs to be RVP or Falcao and in all likelihood, I would choose Falcao. Rooney and Falcao up top with Mata behind and Di Maria the most advanced of a midfield three would be my pick. Or the 4-4-2 with Di Maria and Januzaj wide.


5.) 10 Sep 2014
Jose, that is why he would more than likely be best alongside Rooney as he would not be a partner in the true sense of the word. I very much have my fingers crossed for a front three next year of Ronaldo, Rooney and Falcao - would be nearly identical to what we saw in 2008.


6.) 10 Sep 2014
Moonrinho if he has scored lot of goals as a "Loan Forward" then this transfer definitely suits us.


7.) 10 Sep 2014
10 Sep 2014 13:37:59
Fresh , as good as falcao is, he is not as flexible as tevez was in 2008


8.) 10 Sep 2014
10 Sep 2014 13:45:37
Oh Mumbai_Boy. . this has tickled me


9.) 10 Sep 2014
RVP has been pretty poor since after Xmas his first season. He has shown glimpses, but runs offside more now, gets injured often, looks shattered a lot sooner in games, contributes less and his finishing isn't as good as it was. Even some of the (few) chances he has had of late he is missing where he would have scored previously.

Saying that I think Falcao & RVP could work well, its all to do with how their brains are programmed and if they can operate together in terms of movement. It's not that often you see one forward passing to another, it is more to do with not making the same runs and closing down together etc, if they click it could be great, many people thought Tevez & Rooney wouldn't play well together as they were quite similar but they did.

Rooney & Falcao, Rooney & RVP, Falcao & RVP, Falcao alone, I suppose it would have been nice to see which works best during pre-season but we don't have that luxury so more trial and error ahead over the next few weeks. Exciting though if we can pass the ball forward at speed.


10.) 10 Sep 2014
10 Sep 2014 15:16:41
RvP has looked poor of late but as someone else said he's lacking fitness. Rooneys the fittest he's been in years so why is he underperforming? Is being captain too much? Is it the midfield?


11.) 10 Sep 2014
I did mention few weeks back that we needed another top striker as neither rvp or Rooney were filling me with hope. I said we'll struggle to get goals with rvp and Rooney.
I'm sorry we sold welbeck, but delighted we've got falcao. So personally, I think Rooney falcao will work great as rvp has been very poor for a year now.


12.) 10 Sep 2014
MrE - the problem with Rooney is simply down to him losing that yard of pace over the past few years. He can't recover from mistakes, he can't get away from his man, he can't create space for others without that extra yard. So when he has the ball now he needs a lot more time and a lot more options, just because of that yard disappearing and he didn't have much to spare, he hasn't had time or options because of our midfield deficiencies as well. As we have slowed in midfield, so has the service and he hasn't got that X-factor anymore to make up for it.

Rooney always had sloppy touch, the trouble is where he could nick the ball back or recover quickly he can't now and opponents know it. It happens often to players like Rooney, the major problem is most clubs phase out players like this, we have kind of rewarded it, it's backwards!


13.) 10 Sep 2014
RVP has been poor since March and not right in my opinion. Rooney's issue is he roams around too much and hence receiving the ball in the wrong area of the pitch and then some poor decisions and gets stick for it. Some of it is due to our midfield being absent during many games and hence the constant debate.


14.) 10 Sep 2014
I thought he had a fantastic world cup.


15.) 10 Sep 2014
Beast - Most GOOD clubs sell players like Welbeck, that is what happened. So another assumption of yours goes down the drain mate.

Deeps.


16.) 10 Sep 2014
Yet a team that is in the CL and look far better than us this season sign him as their main striker - yeah I'm crazy!

Welbeck was a snip for Arsenal, a quality player that we got rid of to accommodate two of the most underperforming players in the game. Consistently underperforming I might add.


17.) 10 Sep 2014
Welbeck will be second choice behind giroud


18.) 11 Sep 2014
A poor player who only had pace in his locker. Considered not good enough by someone better than you and me. A cheap alternative for the Gooners, ask their legends. Not fit to lace RVP or Rooney's boots. Local lad who got far too much leeway, now booted for a world class player like Falcao. I hope that is clear enough.

Deeps.


19.) 11 Sep 2014
Even the best make mistakes Deep, LVG has made a fair few clangers in his time, the opening 2 months of his Utd tenure have hardly been impressive as well, all talk so far and dreadful performances - I prefer evidence rather than wishful thinking.

Time will tell with Welbeck as it will LVG, but Welbeck has far more than just pace, how he played for England the other night is how he has played most games (not even looking at the goals).

He was barely given a run in his favourite role because players like RVP & Rooney were chosen ahead of him on reputation not form, that would annoy the hell out of anybody. Both of whom have been below average for a long time (injuries aside), so you are saying Welbeck was given too much leeway, but think Rooney hasn't, give me a break?

Welbeck for Falcao was good business obviously don't get me wrong. Rooney for Falcao would have been better, as would RVP for Falcao. That is my issue with the deal, the wrong player was let go for a vast array of reasons, not least if we switch to a 4-3-3 which is the managers plan, only Welbeck can operate multiple roles effectively. RVP & Rooney are the ones given game after game despite being awful for the past 12+ months.

SAF wanted rid of Rooney, are you saying that LVG is better than SAF now? You can't have it both ways.


20.) 11 Sep 2014
Beast mate, Fergie did not want to sell Wazza for footballing reasons, I think that is clear. Plus you are comparing Welbeck to one of our main stays over the last decade. Welbeck had done nothing to justify the weird martyr like feeling ever since he left.

Deeps.