08 Aug 2019 10:56:12
For every year since SAF retired, I have seen fans claiming that they will be happy with top 4 for the next season. According to this genius, we get top 4 and then challenge for the title and then win it. Bollocks. If you always aim top 4 then you will get stucked at it, just like Arsenal.

Every year these fans claimed the same and can't believe even after 6 7 years, now they are claiming to be satisfied after we get top 4. It is depressing. The club must be working on winning the title. Even if we are not good enough, having that mindset to win the title will eventually take us to top 4 and we will still have the hunger to fight for more.

Having less ambition has messed this club. I could understand that from the club who are in mess but fans here as well? This window has been a disaster for me. We addressed defense which should have been done years ago. We let go two midfielders and our most proven striker and have not replaced them. Whos says all of those can't be bought in same window?

These fans who claim themselves to be positive one and other dramaqueen will probably aim for top 4 for next 10 years and get stucked at it.


1.) 08 Aug 2019
08 Aug 2019 11:45:43
I’ve been saying it for years. There are people on here that act like they want United to slip further away from the top because it proves that they’re ‘real’ supporters. They say let’s wait and see for the entire transfer window, and when it all goes tits up and we make a mess of things, they tell people to shut up and support the players already here.

We are one of the richest clubs on the planet. For years we have abjectly failed in the transfer market. The club has resisted any change to the current setup. They have dragged their heals on bringing in a DoF. They have behaved in an amateur way this summer, completely failing to revamp a squad lagging far behind those challenging for the title.

We have too many fans that are full time apologists for mediocracy. I want the club to be challenging for titles, to have ambition, and to be focused on footballing rather than business success.

We have supporters who are more than willing to lay the blame on managers and individual players, but spend the entire summer trying to deflect blame from an incompetent transfer team who bungle through each and every window.


2.) 08 Aug 2019
08 Aug 2019 11:56:32
Srestha, being positive/ optimistic does not mean being unrealistic of our chances especially with the state the club currently is in. Also, fans like me implying on finishing in the top 4 are not saying we would be satisfied with that year in year out, but it is more of a first step to get us back into champions league and then improve from thereon. CL is crucial for us in terms of finances and also attracting the top quality players.

Unfortunately, the mess created in the past several years with frequent change of managers, coaching staff, tactics, training methods and a total breakdown of our transfer policy has put the club in a difficult spot. And with such a state of instability the least the fans can do is try to be positive/ optimistic and hope for the best.


3.) 08 Aug 2019
08 Aug 2019 12:11:22
LetsPlay, that was what was said last year as well. let's get top 4 and then progress. But unfortunately, as soon as we got top 4 the owners decided that no investment was required and we slipped back. This year even if we make it to the top 4, the history suggests that the owners will be satisfied and might decide not to make changes to the playing staff. We will forever be playing catch-up. Look at Real Madrid, they knew they needed to get in players and they did while here we are, supposedly the richest club in the world, taking baby steps.


4.) 08 Aug 2019
08 Aug 2019 12:19:34
Great post Srestha.
Positive and aimimg for 4rt is in fashion these days.
Going for title is out of fashion lol.


5.) 08 Aug 2019
08 Aug 2019 12:49:11
Letsplay!

Dont you get it. The team has glaring weakness which if not addressed will have us another manager sacked and your cycle will start again. Best way is to back a manager with everything possible so that the manager can succeed. Working step wise idea is dumb. You call yourself realist then realise how much of mess we are in stop acting like we had a wonderful window.

"Getting top 4, then title". This has been going on for years. I am sure with this type of average minded ambition we will be in even deeper mess.


6.) 08 Aug 2019
08 Aug 2019 12:32:26
It's mad that its 7 years. We laugh at the Scousers and their 30 years but in the blink of an eye we could be at 10.


7.) 08 Aug 2019
08 Aug 2019 12:59:35
Never thought I’d agree with you United Addict. but you are spot on. If anyone thinks we cannot do a big rebuild then look at the likes of city a few years ago and the two Madrid teams this year. Sure it takes time to plan it but this summer was the perfect opportunity. We could have had young, smalling, Jones and Rojo off the books but we go and give them huge contracts. It is clear where the deficiencies in the side are yet we only brought in 3 players.

We knew pogba and Lukaku wanted to leave yet we let the sagas drag on until the last day where we have no time to find replacements. Where is the direction and leadership? As ed said, the club is run by amateurs. Arsenal are a side considered in a tough situation yet they have a clear plan and direction led by sanllehi. Until we fix our structure and plan for the long term, we will be lurching from mistake to mistake, throwing obscene amounts of money on players who either don’t want to be here or not good enough. This aiming for 4th business is rubbish. We should be aiming to win every year.

I feel sorry for ole. I think he has done brilliantly this pre season and has integrated the youth well. But it’s grossly unfair on Youngsters to put all this pressure on them to perform. Before you know it, our fan base will be slaughtering Greenwood for missing a few chances. Like I said, I’m normally very positive but I feel so deflated. An injury to pogba or a return of his disinterested self and we are done. I really think ole can build something here. But not being given the tools and we will be making a new appointment in a years time. And then the cycle goes again.

I apologise if I’m being negative. I’m trying to assess both sides without blindly ignoring the fact we are ill equipped in midfield this season. Matches are won in midfield. Simple as. And ours is woeful imo. There are positives like I said with greenwood Chong, Tuanzebe and Gomes. Really happy with Maguire and wan Bissaka is going to be a star. But they aren’t enough. I will be there at old Trafford on Sunday and I will sing my heart out like I always do because I love this club. But we as fans, and ole, have been grossly let down by the powers above. That should not be overlooked.


8.) 08 Aug 2019
08 Aug 2019 13:16:03
Srestha, where did I say I am a realist? And you can look at my other posts where I am looking at the positives and being optimistic, I have also talked about the glaring deficiencies in the squad. Don't just presume things just to make a point.

I have also mentioned about the frequent change of managers among others in my reply, if you are hasty enough to miss my point, that's not my fault.

Also, we as fans can have all the positive mindset but it is the team as a whole who need it the most for us to challenge for major honours.