14 Aug 2019 21:01:40
Does anyone else think liverpool have made a mistake in not strengthening.

Feel like there defence can be got at now for some reason, it's only a few games in so maybe its just a blip.

1.) 14 Aug 2019
14 Aug 2019 21:26:39
Quick players like Kante cause VvD issues. Robertson's pace often saves VvD from embarrassment. He's a great CB don't get me wrong, but very surprised teams don't take advantage of his lack of pace. Last season teams gave Liverpool a lot of respect, but we have seen what can happen when teams get at them. Norwich opened them up several times, City too although expected, Chelsea have had a good 3-4 good chances. Hopefully that's a sign of things to come and teams will be putting Liverpool under pressure. We will see.

2.) 14 Aug 2019
14 Aug 2019 21:46:56
Sideways a mistake not to strengthen while on top. And they were not even top. Madrid suffered Barcelona suffered. Players need pressure players need competition. Players get complacent. Supporters get arrogant.

3.) 14 Aug 2019
14 Aug 2019 22:11:17
Hmm, Champion’s League winners didn’t strengthen, they’re bound to struggle. Liverpool spent very big last year which means they have no cash this year. They have a very good team, it remains to be seen whether United or anyone else can close the gap.

{Ed047's Note - Wow did I really read VVD doesn’t have pace, guess he hasn’t seen VVD burn half the length of a pitch and make a saving tackle, I recall one against Willian, whose no slouch, this whole thread is just totally wow.

4.) 14 Aug 2019
14 Aug 2019 22:35:52
VVD has made a huge difference but it did burn the budget meaning money is tight this year. I thought he was an OK CB but he really stepped up. I think Liverpool are so far ahead that they will probably get away with it this year.

5.) 14 Aug 2019
14 Aug 2019 22:37:09
Champions league final when he showed immense recovery pace to tackle son heung min, vvd has plenty of pace, just doesn't need to use it half the time as he's playing in second gear.

6.) 14 Aug 2019
14 Aug 2019 22:40:12
Always judge a team. at. the end of a season.

7.) 15 Aug 2019
14 Aug 2019 23:59:31
The only thing I could see here is the Liverpool team don't look 100% fit, but I'd say they will be bang at it when they get going.

8.) 15 Aug 2019
14 Aug 2019 23:24:23
Sure, when he's into his stride, I mean over short distances. His positional sense and timing is top class, but speed over short distance isn't great, like most his size. Maguire being another.

9.) 15 Aug 2019
14 Aug 2019 23:47:40
Ed047 why is the whole thread 'wow'?
I think the ideal time to improve any team is when you are at the top. As soon as a squad stagnates even if successful it is on the slide then whole sake changes are required at once. Juve have done it best recently won the league 8 years in a row 3 cl finals numerous cups new stadia yet they add at least 1 or 2 first team starters every summer.
Nobody is complacent. The coach the players the fans nobody.
Fans favourites are moved out if its the right decision for the club.
City have added one every year.
Liverpool are not perfect. I think they missed an opportunity to add to a great squad with a top class talent who can push for a place or a top class cb. Its best practise imo.

{Ed047's Note - because Ken a poster two games in is saying that Liverpool can be got at as though they have suddenly become less of a team. Every defence can be got at because no one is perfect.

But like most teams they are not up and running, Trent, Gomez, VVD and
Robertson are for me the best back 4 in the league by some way and you have to remember Gomez is still on his way back.

As for the VVD comment saving him from embarrassment was the daftest thing ever as firstly Gomez plays on the right side and is the speed machine and could any actually point out exactly when he was embarrassed.

I don’t get the argument that they have no money either, Coutinho sale equalled Allison and VVD. They’ve been to two Champions League finals and finished runners up, how would they be skint.

Whilst I agree you should never stand still it has to be difficult to get the exact type of player you want at that moment and whilst you are happy that you have Chong, Greenwood, Gomes and Garner in your squad, have you not seen the talented youth in the Liverpool set up. They have two excellent looking full backs as well as young Brewster and others.

That’s why I said wow mate.

10.) 15 Aug 2019
15 Aug 2019 06:52:23
Red tinted glasses i suspect ed.
I think you should expect united supporters not to see anything good in Liverpool. Football supporters are bias and don't often talk factually about their major position. Ergo you shouldn't be surorised😂
Gomez in best back 4 in the league? How many games has he actually played as a cb for Liverpool? So your hoping he will fulfill his obvious potential. he want even in your back 4 most of last year. You want him to replace matip but matip has looked better all pre season and you have won nothing with gomez In the team and you did win a cup with matip in and got to a cup final the previous year.
End of season will tell if Liverpool improve get more points than last year and win more than the cl. If they don't they disimproved.
I don't thin k they will only lose 1 game this season i don't think they will win the cl. If they don't they wills be factually on the declinewill have disimproved yoy. So as you say wait till end of season and then we can look at the results without bias as it will be factual.

{Ed047's Note - Ken I’m not a Liverpool supporter mate and if you watched Gomez prior to his leg break he was immense, nothing got through him and his time out was a big loss for them.

I honestly don’t see them being weaker simply because the haven’t smashed the transfer window I just see them as being every bit as good.

They seem to have that spirit with Klopp that you guys did in your pomp with Fergie.

We are all playing catch up to Spurs to start with before we think of City and Liverpool.

And no I’m not surprised mate 😂

11.) 15 Aug 2019
15 Aug 2019 07:17:52
I think you are a gooner but your looking at it like a Liverpool supporter imo.
Milner unreal last year will not play to those standards again imo.
Gomez has played only a handful of games and mostly at rb no guarantee he will come back as strong.
They will not surpass last season's point total so will be worse.

Not playing catch up with anybody. New season we all start from zero. Last season counts for nothing.

I suspect city will win again i see Liverpool betting worth the rest of the pack. Its just my biased opinion of course mate😂.

{Ed047's Note - 😂 I’m looking at it from the outside mate and if they won the league with 92pts and lost 3 games would that make them worse?

And yes you are playing catch up mate, you can’t hide from that one.

Ken I love footy mate and in my time I’ve cheered on every English club playing in Europe including United.

I love watching great football no matter who the team, I don’t get bent out of shape about Spurs, I love their new Stadium and they have some great players.

So in every sense I see City, Liverpool and not so much Spurs ahead of the rest and we really are playing catch up. You might not like it much but it’s true. 🤷‍♂️

You’re heading in the right direction for sure and I love AWB, not quite a man crush but would have loved him at the Arsenal.

12.) 15 Aug 2019
15 Aug 2019 09:21:30
047 of course the will improve if they win the league which i said but i don't think they will.
Season is on. They are now playing catch up. I suspect they will be ahead soon all the same😂. Last year is gone nothing tells me Liverpool are on course for a period of wining multiple major trophies.
If they doo ill be first I to congratulate them like i was last year. I don't concede anything until its won. I don't like Liverpool fc and if i had my way they would be 2nd In every competition every year.
Nothing better than liverpool nearly winning and then falling at the final hurdle. 😂😂
When or if they win is the time to throw plaudits around not because they have the potential to do so imo.

13.) 15 Aug 2019
15 Aug 2019 09:28:47
It will take a while to get back competing at the top table ed047. Baby steps. I think we will compete a lot better this season. KT will be as good for you as awb is for us i suspect ed.

{Ed047's Note - I’m hoping so mate and I’m sure you will and certainly hope we are.

Big year for both Emery and OGS.

14.) 15 Aug 2019
15 Aug 2019 10:12:04
Cheers mate. Have a great day ed047 and good to see you on these pages. Yourself and ed025 are great on here and always contribute and your opinions are well worth reading.

{Ed047's Note - thanks mate and you.