25 Aug 2020 17:34:53
Maguire found guilty of resisting arrest, assault and bribery. What to think now?

1.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 17:49:46
I think it depends on the sentence. If it's a fine or suspended sentence, then I think the club should strip him of the captaincy, fine him and maybe suspend him.

If he gets jail time, then I think he should be fired, if that's possible. A drunk fight is one thing, punching cops and attempting to bribe them using your status as United's captain is another.

2.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 17:51:00
Innocent until proven guilty, oh. Well I guess he was a bellend then😂.

3.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 18:10:23
How many of you WOULDN’T have lost your s**t if you saw some blokes whack an injection of some sort into your sister, who then passed out? He’ll get a fine and a suspended sentence but I genuinely cannot blame him for chasing and attacking the blokes, whilst being understandably aggressive to anyone standing in his way, police or otherwise. Some people saying he should have just remained calm and taken her to hospital, come on, be realistic, the bloke is a human being.

4.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 18:17:14
No proof of that Downsie, you'd think they could have backed it up with a blood test and a toxicology report. Absolutely no evidence to support that happened.

He's got a 21 month suspended sentence, have to see what the club does now.

5.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 18:17:24
But what about the repeatedly attempting to bribe the police? That wasn’t in the heat of the moment and is the more serious charge.

6.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 18:22:46
Maguire has said he will appeal and his family are the victims .
At least the fans are standing behind one if ours . O wait.

{Ed047's Note - appeal on what grounds, it’s never ok to assault Police and then blatantly try and bribe them.

The guy is a muppet and deserves everything he gets!

7.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 18:38:22
I’ve never heard of charges that could go away with an apology. it’s a strange case, especially considering the defence was giving evidence late. Whatever happened it’s done.

8.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 18:45:44
Jred, blind support is daft. At what point do you stop supporting someone. I want him to do well for United and I'll support him while he is on the pitch. We don't have to support his actions off the pitch.

While I can understand reacting in the heat of the moment while drunk, I won't condone it. However, repeated attempts to bribe police afterwards shows a lack of respect and responsibility.

If the club feel that he has to lose the capacity then so be it, and that is a response I think might be fair given the circumstances.

He's been stupid, now he needs to front up and do the right thing.

9.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 18:50:59
First and foremost we don't know the facts apart from what has been reported. Secondly it is rather unusual for a person to be given so little time to prepare their defence. Thirdly not all foreign legal systems are as fair as the English Courts.

Rather than condemn him out of hand I will reserve judgement until after he has appealed and his appeal has been heard. I do not know him personally and judging him only from what I have seen of him doing his job is not necessarily a fair way to assess his character. but I do think he seems to be a steady sort of bloke and not one to rashly have a fight abroad. Maybe I am wrong. But let's wait til the appeal. If after a fair hearing he is proven guilty then we accept he is a very stupid guy. Only after that appeal.

10.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 18:52:29
Hard to know what a football club will do in these situations considering the Value of the player and being such an asset. In the real world I would expect your job to potentially be on the line.
Players have survived things before and continued to play on the assumption that the suspended sentence remains just that.
I would expect some sort of sanction from the club and OGS will likely strip him of the captaincy.
No matter what his reasons this is not a good look for our club.

11.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 18:55:44
It isn't about blind support but from where I'm from you look after your own .
If it was the scouse captain I would want him hung drawn and quarterd.
Let's be honest z small majority of fans couldn't get the knife in quick enough .

12.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 18:56:54
Loll, standing behind a criminal who hits a policeman and then tries bribing. Jred give me some of what your smoking.

13.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 18:48:20
Well said Eds, made a bloody disgrace of himself. If United had any sense they would terminate his contract immediately.

14.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 18:49:07
Why would us fans stand by a player when he’s completely in the wrong?! The club for me matters more than a player. I don’t want such players to represent our precious club. I could excuse the heat of the moment but to constantly use your status as Utd captain and money to cover your actions. Big no from me and hope the club feel the same.

{Ed047's Note - I’m with you on that Trumours

15.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 18:59:10
He's just been found guilty jred. Are we supposed to say, don't worry harry, we are all behind you even though you've been a massive b***end? 🤔

I think he should serve his sentence, apologise, get home and work his behind off to get the fans inside again.

16.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 19:10:49
Yer like I say its maybe a generational thing but myself and a lot of other fans will go with the, you look after your own .
Others fans and sadly some of others will be all over it like a rash .
I would be myself it it was the scouse captain
Has Harry been an idiot yes, but i come from a background where people make mistakes. Made a few myself .
Give me a maguire over a neymar
Its the teen pop generation, getting all offended . Harry has messed up but God knows I've probably done worse .
Honestly and this won't go down well with a few on here but I would be more disappointed if he turned the other cheek to his family getting abuse.

{Ed047's Note - you don’t have to do nothing but equally you don’t have to assault a Police Officer and then like some utter clown try to bribe them and if you condone that by saying you’ve done similar then you are as big an idiot as he is.

It has nothing to do with being a fan of another club it is a simple what’s right and what’s wrong but you love to be a smart arse I no best type of fool.

17.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 19:11:21
Salford, he's just been in court and been found guilty. They acted on the facts at hand and found him guilty.

I was hoping it was all a big misunderstanding because he seems to be a really decent bloke. But being found guilty of these 3 different things is pretty damning IMO.

18.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 19:23:43
surely he's breached his contract sack him on the spot get rid he's a moron why would any footballer go to a party place full of rowdy neds who are gonae give u grief hoping on the off chance that your going to bite he brought it on himself absolute clown.

19.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 19:39:37
Nah jred, that's not a generational thing, that's just some weird tribal thing.

I'm not saying he's the worst person ever, get rid, sack him etc etc. All I'm saying is, he's made a nuts of himself, broke the law and now has to pay the penalty. Now say sorry, own up to it and be a better person. We can recognise when's he wrong and call it like it is.

You've done worse? 🤔.

20.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 19:41:12
47 you back again, an arsenal fan on here .
Yer I have, I got drunk then naked on holiday . Got a good hiding of a Spanish copper, after some very one sided negotiations he took all my money and my shoes but didn't arrest me .
Harry been a bit of a prat, and come out with the dreaded " do you know who I am " .
But if someone abuses my family its probably going to end in a negative way.
If someone called me an idiot to my face and from behind a key board it probably would 😂.
I'm honest enough to say I have made some silly mistakes, never out of malice tho .
Others i'm sure would be fine with it .
I would have more issue with a player or a person walking out on his wife and family . Although many wouldn't want him sacked for that .

But each to their own maguire will have to face the music, rival fans and some on here will be chuffed .

{Ed047's Note - now you’re trying the angle of an Arsenal fan to excuse this idiot and that I must some how be chuffed.

Classing assaulting the Police and trying to bribe one truly sums you up.

You really are moronic clown and need to grow tfu.

21.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 19:41:17
Scott, bit OTT. He has no previous whatsoever and seems as though he is a really decent bloke.

I hope he can learn from it and be a better person. I think he will get the benefit of doubt from most as long as he gets back to the club and works hard to get the fans onside again.

22.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 19:43:38
I don't get the point if it was the Scouse captain. Surely it's more from a human standpoint no matter what club he plays for. Made the mistake, hands up, work hard for the club. It's not sad at all. It's sad that some have the viewpoint that they back their own no matter what.

23.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 19:50:26
Does abusing posters and eds work the same way 047?

{Ed047's Note - jred is condoning getting drunk, assaulting a Police Officer then trying to bribe your way out of a situation he got himself in.

A fabulous example for the captain of Manchester United to set and here you are sticking up for him because I’m telling him straight he’s an arse.

Nothing less than I’d expect from you either to be fair 🤦‍♂️

24.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 19:51:05
Ed047 😳😳😳.

{Ed047's Note - it’s a shocking example of behaviour to some how justify Angel. I’m not having it and why would any decent human being think it was fine. 🤷‍♂️

25.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 19:54:43
Its not an angle, like I have said i havd made mistakes myself.
Its his first ever offence, (we know about.
Would I sack him no .
Is it thd end oc the world? In my opinion no .
If it was the arsenal captain I would think it was funny and be giving my arsenal supporting colleagues plenty . Yet your suggestion your above ghat 🤔
Does that make me an idiot and moronic clown? Imo no .
Would I come on a website and call someone a moronic clown? No

Few week it will be yesterday news and I will be amazed if he is sacked .

{Ed047's Note - you are condoning his behaviour jred and in my opinion that is moronic.

Is that an example you want the young United fans to follow, get drunk, assault a Police man and then bribe them.

I call getting caught smoking when your a player or breaching lockdown idiotic but they are not criminal offences.

It’s like saying Cantona was right for diving into the crowd.

It’s simply not and no I wouldn’t sack him either but he needs to learn a lesson as any alleged 1st offender would.

I would also be equally outraged if it was the Arsenal captain.

26.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:02:07
47 no i'm not condoning it i'm saying its not the end of the world and i'm honest enough to say I've made mistakes.

Surprised at the comments about Deano?

{Ed047's Note - but you are condoning by saying it’s not the end of the world and I’ve done similar, it’s just like saying “so what”

As for Deano he has an issue with me and that’s his lookout 🤷‍♂️

27.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:04:18
Jred, I'd stop the digging.

28.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 19:48:59
Let me guess, he probably whipped out a wad of cash and said, "do you know who I am? " or something?

29.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 19:52:29
They take bribery seriously in Greece. You can get 5 years for it.

30.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 19:55:21
Salford, you're showing that same casual British superiority racism that's all over the internet in regards to this. Other countries do things differently, the UK is far from the shining example many seem to believe it is.

31.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:10:57
Ed47 no i'm not condoning his behaviour, I've said he has been a prat and an idiot .
But its also not the end of the world .
People make mistakes, and deserve a second chance.

But each to their own, i wouldn't come on a website and call someone an moronic clown .
But I would react if someone abused my family .

{Ed047's Note - I wouldn’t either if they weren’t and I’m afraid you are doing just that.

32.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:15:09
Jred it says more about you than him if you condone it.
I don't want him sacked i'm quite old school myself but he should be punished perhaps lose the captaincy and work hard to restore trust.
You can't go around hitting police for any reason and you can't attempt to bribe them particularly when others are listening😂 he was stupid he is guilty. As i said above cantona rooney keane were all arrested and guilty of varying offences and the club stood by them they will stand by maguire but will also make an example of him as they should.

33.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:15:28
Lucky to get a suspended sentence too. If it was any of us found guilty of what he's done, we'd be inside.

34.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:19:11
I’m just glad it’s not me being abused by the Ed for once 😂.

Bruno should be United captain, the club need to use this as an excuse to do that and move on.

35.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:22:21
Only a few hours ago you were slating fans for allegedly going to Woodwards house. Now you're defending one of our players who has been convicted of some serious offences. Pick a lane Jred.

As some who works for the Department of Foreign affairs in Ireland, I have quite a bit of experience dealing with idiots who get arrested abroad. I can categorically tell you that if that was an ordinary Joe Soap with that rap sheet, they would be doing time.

He needs to be suspended by the club for awhile and he needs to be stripped of the captaincy, minimum.

36.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:22:25
Luckily there will be no fans in grounds to give him grief.

37.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:25:45
Where have I condoned it? But peole are that quick to jump on it they don't read the full post .

As you say kean Cantona etc have all done things, i'm honest enough to say I have myself.
I'm not going to sit here judging people when I'm not perfect myself .

But its not the end of the world no one was hurt thd world will go on .

38.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:30:27
Agree with that jred. Bruno is proper captain material.

39.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:30:53
Lol i said they where idiots for going to woodwards house and getting upset upset over a transfer window?
I also said idiots would not check if he was in first .

When do people worry and get so upset over a transfer market, look at the year we have all just, look at other clubs struggling to get by . stand by it.

40.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:16:57
I can assure you ed I have no issue with you, I don't know you personally and if it feels that I am being nasty or disrespectful I apologise, I do have issue with some of the inflammatory comments that are hidden behind "banter", and after a day where we learnt that ed002 had to remove the transfer intro post due to being abused i found it a tad unsavoury to be calling people names on the same site.

{Ed047's Note - that’s all good then Deano but I find it moronic and idiotic that a poster would condone Maguire's behaviour, then use the excuse that I’m an Arsenal fan so in effect lauding in Maguire's conviction.

His behaviour was unacceptable on every level and he has to simply except the consequences of his actions.

I didn’t cry out for him to be strung up or sacked but cannot simply agree with someone who clearly thinks it’s fine to do what he did Deano.

41.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:20:34
ed47, each to their own but that isn't my style .
I have my own opinion of you to be honest.
People are very quick to judge.

{Ed047's Note - and here you go again, I am not judging Maguire but in fact you.

You are commenting all over the page how it’s nothing and will blow over

42.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:33:03
Mumbles, exactly, privileged lad to not have to do time.

Just like the idiots who were at Woodward's house unless we are backing our own in that circumstance too 😉.

43.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:41:27
ed47 I personally don't think you have fully read all my posts . Picked out the parts you want to justify calling me a mornic clown?
I can only say I font condone it do many times . I agree with Deano.

{Ed047's Note - jred of course I read all your posts and initially you were clearly condoning it in this thread but then changed tact but still condoned it on other threads.

I was born at night jred but it wasn’t last night.

44.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:54:34
Angel, it must be a generational thing. Apparently the new generation don't "look after their own". Morals go out the window when the player is good.

45.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:56:46
Jred you said
Honestly and this won't go down well with a few on here but I would be more disappointed if he turned the other cheek to his family getting abuse.
That's condoning it imo
I agree it will blow over but he is guilty at this time.
Lots of innocent people in prison if you ask them 90% will say they didn't do it. Bit like you said earlier about managers leaving clubs few will say its their fault they have been fired. Harry been a fool. He had to pay for that the club need to stand by him but also make an example. Nobody should condone that behaviour.
None of us are perfect but there are lines you shouldn't cross. Harry seems to have trampled all over the line not just crossed it.
It will be yesterdays news soon enough all the same.
As for the club sacking him that's stupid talk imo we can agree on that. Double standards need to be minimised.

46.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 20:58:54
Ed47, i'm not condoning it what I said was my op
"Maguire has said he will appeal and his family are the victims .
At least the fans are standing behind one if ours . O wait. "

I said he was an idiot, I've been honest enough to say I have been myself .
But you have added your own narrative, you havd read a post and decided " he really means " .
Your have ignored anything that doesn't fit it and are just justify calling me names. But each to there own.

{Ed047's Note - I’m wasting my breath jred, I have zero narrative. I don’t care about Maguire but I do care about you condoning his actions which you 100% did by making out it was nothing, it didn’t matter, you’d done worse, then described something that wasn’t worse, then make the throw away comment of it will blow over.

Seriously stop digging and give it a rest. 🤦‍♂️

47.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 21:06:42
Salford ask the birmingham 6 or guilford 4 what they think of the British judicial system. Or the unfortunate widow of the policeman that those kids killed.
British judicial system has proven to be currupt, bent and imoral over and over again.

48.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 21:08:27
Ah right, so no mention of bribing or fighting with the police?

"Honestly and this won't go down well with a few on here but I would be more disappointed if he turned the other cheek to his family getting abuse"

I 100% stand by that, you would probably turn the other check and that's fine . I will be honest I'm different, if someone abuses my family I will stand up for them. And I would be disappointed if one of my family members didn't do the same .

49.) 25 Aug 2020
25 Aug 2020 21:24:42
Have to say agree with the Ed on this one, I did say before the details came out stick by Harry, doesn't seem the type etc but now looking at what he is doing its embarrassing at best and obvs criminal, nobody should be condoning this, its not about him walking out or not sticking up for his family there are ways to stand up for them without bribery and assault, i'd say maybe walking away and lodging a complaint afterwards maybe one way.
Of course we have all done silly things but Maguire is a grown adult, a role model and should be at very least stripped of the captaincy and benched (shame we prob can't afford to do that) I'd go so far to say sell him but why would anyway pay for him now.
We have all said stuff on here and been wrong and called out for it, its not the same as the relentlees abuse the editors suffer that we don't even get to see, you just got called out on your post, move on.

50.) 26 Aug 2020
26 Aug 2020 00:58:44
Sorry I’ve just read this thread and can see both sides To the argument honestly but I just wanted to say “assaulting a police officer” is such a loose term as it literally could have been a group scrapping and simply an officer in the middle getting caught by a stray arm etc.

It doesn’t always mean straight up he’s gone up to the officer and chinned them intentionally.

Let’s get the facts of the whole event before judging at least.

Like I said in my post above, the club and Maguire seemed very confident of his case and innocence even after the verdict so let’s see what happens first.

51.) 26 Aug 2020
26 Aug 2020 02:14:03
a couple of threads above that actually sensible, this has been taken over by a few wanting to stick the knife in,
90% of 47s post are looking for a bite or argument.

Sack him? Would go to jail if it was anyone else? . The lads done wrong but he won't be first, there will be 2 sides and life will go on .

52.) 26 Aug 2020
26 Aug 2020 04:22:21
Does anyone know for sure if Harry knew they were police officers BEFORE he 'assaulted and tried to bribe' them?

Perhaps they only revealed it afterwards. If I was a dirty cop trying to get headlines and a conviction, that's how I'd play it.