18 Sep 2020 18:33:27
I read from all posters that there is no need for negotiations because at the end we give them what they want. So, is this the case ?
Bissakas asking price was 60 million pounds at the time and Palase didn't seem dropping this price, yet i think we brought him for 45 millions plus 5 millions in add ons.

When we first wanted Bruno Sporting asked around 100 millions and as Ed said most teams walked out of the deal. Then they had some economic problems and they redused the price at around 70. At this price , again , there weren't many suitors , in fact only us had a serious interest. With negotiations we managed to buy the player for 50 millions plus add ons.

So we can't always be successful at negotiations but sometimes we are, don't we ? In Sanchos case what we ask (as per reports), i think is fair enough. A slightly redused price , some bonuses and some instalments. So of instead of paying 120 millions at once we could give 70 plus 40 next year plus some add ons that would be fine. I know its difficult because Dortmund said 120 or go away, but then for so much money at least you have to try and negotiate. And who knows maybe we achieve our purpose as we did with Bruno.

1.) 18 Sep 2020
18 Sep 2020 18:56:15
Manchester United All or Nothing could just follow our transfer department around for a whole season.

2.) 18 Sep 2020
18 Sep 2020 19:34:26
Very few are saying there is no room for negotiations but if its clear the other side is not for turning then its best to move on.

Crystal Palace and Sporting Lisbon with all due respect are a different stature of club than borussia dortmund. Of course dortmund have shown themselves to be the type of club than signs young promising and at times obscure players, develop them with extraordinary success and then sell them for big fees. But they seem to always drive a hard bargain for their players, pulisic and dembele as examples.

If dortmund want £x million with a big chunk up front and very achievable add-ons then that's what we have to pay. Add in to that the agents commission and player wages its a massive expenditure for the club. If they don't want to pay that much then fine, walk away and look at alternatives.

3.) 18 Sep 2020
18 Sep 2020 19:51:56
Herrera, no disrespect, but i think you might be the only Manchester United fan in the world who can actually justify our transfer team. Kudos to you Sir.

You heard the term "Amateurs"? that's how Ed002 refers to the United transfer team. What does that tell you? You mention Bruno signing, so you are saying that we should not sign anyone and may be get Sancho cheaper in Jan or next summer?

Can i have what you smoking?

4.) 18 Sep 2020
18 Sep 2020 19:59:58
I agree DSG, Dortmund don't give us a big room for negotations. But even with them we can win something at the end. If for example we pay them 30 millions next year that would be a big plus. With Bruno didn't seem room for negotations too i think.

5.) 18 Sep 2020
18 Sep 2020 20:11:21
I borrowed what you are smoking Shan saying the second spenders in the world don't give money for transfers . So what is this, a normal cigarette?
Oh you heard the term "toxics"? that's how Ed002 refer to United fans. What does that tell?

6.) 18 Sep 2020
18 Sep 2020 21:11:18
if we wait till next year sancho will go were he wanted to go in th first place and that ain't us.

7.) 18 Sep 2020
18 Sep 2020 21:13:12
I am the one who can't write in English. As it seems you are the one you don't understand the language.
There is no debate about recruitment team being amateurs. Yet you come here and tell me that they are amateurs, like i (we) don't know that. The lack of real points are emparassing.
"Funny Red Man how only United have their finances in a twist due to C. V while Chelsea are splashing. " that's yours words. So you know what the problem with people like you is? The only debate was about money, not if they are amateurs. You haven't to be a scientific to understand that they are. Yet you moved the goalposts and made it seem like that i don't know how amateurs usually are to prove your point.
In our theme i use facts. That we are the second spenders. Have you a real fact to use or the only thing you can is moving themes and the goalposts toxic?

8.) 18 Sep 2020
18 Sep 2020 21:35:48
What you took an hour to comprehend the second half of your revert their Herrera? Toxic is you. I understand that English may not be your primary language so as you say you can't write in English but i assume you can read? Have you read about the net spend of United? Did you read that our spend comes down significantly once we have CL qualification? Did you know that last 3 managers have had the same complaints against the spenders? Do you have an idea about our debt and how the money has been taken out of the club?

And if you want to quote me then also mention the context of that post. It was in reply to a very specific point of Red Man. I did not say that we don't have the money, its the club who has made these noises. didn't Ole say that not every club can spend millions in this atmosphere? So what is it? You say we can win with Dortmund like we did with Everton for Fellaini or like we did with Leicester for Maguire?

9.) 19 Sep 2020
19 Sep 2020 00:46:11
I actually know. And actually i already said that we are big spenders. Our net spend in Europe (and world) is second only to City. You don't seem to care about this fact.
The big problem this club has (generally) is the recruitment team and not the money. With clear plan Liverpool bought 3 good players in Tsimikas Tiago and Jota for about 75 millions. But we are not there yet and we have different ideas and plans and i will explain once again. This time our club seems to have a clear plan too and clear targets . You can disagree with the plan but there is one. British core and youngest, 2-3 sighnings every year so they fit in well and with the youngest coming through in 2 years time we will have a very strong team that can compete. I like generally the plan, i disagree in some parts of the plan but i see there is one and i see the intentions. I respect it and i will applaud them if this plan works.
In our path (with HG, British core, right culture, players that we think fit in well etc) there is a small pool that we can take players from. that's what the manager said today that's what i said previous days. that's because the year before there was only one Maguire (proven English center back, the captain of national team), we wanted a leader English player at the back and in papper no center back come close to Harry, if there were 5 top English center backs i am sure that we wouldn't try for Harry until last minute. And this year (at least in our minds) there is only one player that ticks all the boxes and that's Sancho (young English winger with huge potential) .
We do our job in different ways to others, in different time too. For us its not so easy to leave our primary target and go for others, i explained the reasons. Its not as if we target decent-random players of 20 millions and if we can't take the first target it doent matter we can go for the plan b because they are close in quality each other and that's fine. No, we have crystal clear targets, targets that we want to "marry". Good players, (if we can) good characters that not cause problems, mainly English top players with huge potential that will stay with us for life. So the pool is too small but you don't seem able to understand and you want to change targets quickly if we can't take our numper one target.
The toxics, because don't understand what a plan is and how it works, want the team to change the plans and the cultural reboot the club is trying to do, to force them panic buying for short term satisfaction (and success;) and undermine the long term plans of the club. 4 years ago they turned their back to the team and we know the results. You did it again with Van Haal, so good luck again.