22 Nov 2020 18:03:30
So the narrative is we were rubbish and Ole remains useless and anyone who disagrees is wrong or as ken would put it ‘is a fool’. We even have one of the Ed’s trolling jred.

Just because people disagree with you doesn’t make them fools or idiots, they just have a different view. We didn’t play well yesterday but we created a lot of chances, their GK was MOTM, on another day we would have won 4-1 and said it was a good result despite not playing well. Spurs were poor against City, 2 shots on target, 2 goals, and apparently it was a Jose masterclass. On 99 days out of 100 City would have won 3-0 but yesterday was the 1 in a hundred.

My point is people see what up they want to see, those who want Ole out saw a rubbish display and a lucky win. Those who are more positive saw a rusty performance with poor finishing with 1-0 a poor reflection of chances created. I’m not a huge Ole fan but the squad is significantly better than it has been for some time, he elevated us to 3rd (despite some saying we might get relegated, yes, they did say that), and he deserves more time than some are giving him.

My view, for what it’s worth, is on our day we are capable of beating anyone but we remain massively inconsistent. I remain unconvinced by Martial and think a top top CF would make a real difference. Rashford is a star but too often doesn’t influence games, Pogba needs to go at the earliest opportunity and I have no idea why we bought DVDB if we aren’t going to play him. Greenwood needs to sort himself out, whatever his issues are and if we he does he can be a superstar.

Just my view, doesn’t mean I’m right, and I’m happy to debate with anyone. But the pack mentality today was pretty unpleasant.


1.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 18:33:45
When you're not performing well in front of goal the stats are still there to suggest you're not far off. Yesterday we had 7 shots on target at home. It is not good enough no matter how much you sugar coat it. Also the football is dire, really bad/ boring.

It's a narrative when you are trying to push an agenda/ brainwash with a false unfounded view, this is far from that in this case.
We can only judge what we see, and we see a manager and coaching staff with no urgency to make the team change during the game if it's a bit flat, they all sit there looking clueless like gnomes.

WBA should have had a pen and ours was soft although in line with the current rules. If WBA took a draw nobody (non Utd fans) would have batted an eyelid.

Football is a winning game and for Man Utd winning well, not by some dodgy penalty decisions here and there. Some of the excuses lately have been embarrassing but that's another story.


2.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 18:25:04
Tony it has become a pack mentality because majority now see it that way.

The difference between a jose masterclass and that Ole loserclass was that Spurs were playing a Pep City side, although misfiring but still a Guardiola side while we were playing relegation fodder. Agreed their GK made a couple saves but that is what he is their for. Havent we been crooning praises after praises for DeGea for past so many years when he is also doing the same? These are just excuses.

We finished 3rd, agreed. Were we so bloody brilliant that we deserved 3rd with 66 points or was it because the other teams just imploded post lockdown and we probably had the easiest run in. Any other normal season and we would have been 7th.

Yes we saw a rusty performance and we would have let go if that had been a one off but no, this is the norm and that's why most are pissed.

On to your fourth paragraph. Who decides that Martial keeps playing no matter how crap he has been. Who decides Martial plays CF when any person with slight football knowledge can tell you that Martial is more dangerous when playing on the left and cutting in. Why not play Cavani? Who decides that Rashford keeps playing no matter how crap he has been, whether disinterested or injured regardless he keeps playing and does nothing on the pitch but be Usain Bolt.

Who decides that even when Pogba isn't playing, Donny won't play? Who decides that you play 2 defensive MF against relegation fodder that too at home. Who decides to play Mata on thr RW? But the biggest question is why are we so inconsistent? Ole has been here 2 years, has a settled squad yet we don't know what team will show up. Where is that motivation? Who is responsible for all of the above?

{Ed047's Note - it never ceases to amaze me some of the defences raised for this side and your manager. The OP another classic example.

Any premier league side on their day can beat another, aka Norwich last season, but they are massively inconsistent. Doesn’t mean they are about to become league winners or world beaters.

And to say people see what they want to see, a massive cop out and works both ways, always.

It’s like me trying to convince you that Arsenal are the bees knees and Arteta truly knows what he’s doing. Yeah ok then 🤦‍♂️


3.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 18:59:56
I didn't notice any unpleasantness. If you read a post with a negative mindset (and of course there is no tone) so you have deemed them to be unpleasant by applying the tone you think they are written in.
So what if someone thought at one stage last season we were displaying relegation form. Have you a problem with that?
People are wrong with opinions all the time.
Opinions change all the time.
People flip flop all the time.
Pack mentality? What pack mentality?
My guess is there are a lot less trolling posts that can be deemed as trolling by ed047 towards jred than jred has made towards redman or others.
So is jred a troll too ajh? I don't think he is. He is entitled to post what he likes as long as the eds see fit to post it. Jred accused me of having multiple accounts of ed047 being me so if you want to be making unfounded and wild accusations about people they won't treat you with any respect nor should they imo.
Redman only has to post and 3 posters in particular jump on him are they trolls? Redman can look after himself and imo shows more respect to purple than they afford him.
If a poster thinks another is spouting rubbish they've the right to reply and disagree. They are also entitled to say it in the way they see fit and shouldn't be afraid to do so. Same goes for the eds.
Debate with anybody is fine. All people have is there opinions.
My opinion is any fool can see our team is poor one week and ok the next. Imo any fool can see that.


4.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 18:54:52
ED047,

Is Pepe the Arsenal Paul Pogba?

The problem with most fans, ill include myself in this, is that when we discuss the team we support, inevitably our emotions can get the better of us.

For example, a win yesterday at home will be seen as a positive something to build on etc. However, I just feel that it was yet a other example. of a poor, negative manager with most players not giving it their all.

A manager who constantly chops and changes the formation and is no yet closer to his first 11, is clearly not good enough. You need to accept that the players younhave are the players you must pick and find your best 11, injuries and C.V. depending and play the same team week in/ out, wiyb the odd change here to allow for squad rotation and okauer freshness.

To summise, whilst Ole has been here, not much has changed since he took over from Mourinho. The initial appointment saw the team go on an unbeaten streak. Slowly under Ole the team has become worse in defence, the team doesn't play as a team.

Utd need a strong manager with a really good tactical acumen, to sort out the egos in the squad and to be able to day to those above, this is what needs to be done. These are the players I don't want.

The overall feeling about the club is that it is somewhat rotten. Rotten to the core? Quite possibly.

{Ed047's Note - Hi MH, I honestly think Pepe is a poorer purchase that Pogba, whoever decided to pay £72 million for a luxury player we could really do with out needs hanging.

A lot a guilty of wanting to see something that’s not there and I was in that group for Wengers latter years.

But you truly have to be wearing massive blinkers if you think what yourselves and us a serving up right now.

You have results like PSG that make you think the corners been turned but that corners been turned on countless occasions since 2013 only to find a brick wall right around it.

No one can seriously watch you and think you are heading in the right direction because if they are I like to know exactly what and where that direction is coming from.


5.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 19:28:54
Or what they’re drinking Ed as I’d like a bottle of it for Christmas.

{Ed047's Note - maybe I could have a drop and all would be well at Arsenal Eric 🤣


6.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 19:57:08
Its just all the same people saying all the same things as last year.
I was told repeatedly that the only way to judge if we had a good season was if we finished top 4 .
Of course that changed once we finished top 4 .
But it was just the same people posting the same things, relegation midtable etc etc .
Clearly got it wrong tho as we finished 3rd . Not that that stopped them just ignored the fact .
-At the moment we are 8/ 9 games into the season, a season that started late due to a global C.V.
-its been an inconsistent start to the season by most .
-aston villa and Southampton have both been top . Liverpool got 7 put on them . United and City 5 and 6 the same weekend .
-at the moment there are 7 points separating the top 12 teams with 7 of them teams having a game in hand of the leaders .
-there has already been 2 international breaks to disrupt things even further .

Imo its a bit early to judge you always get a good idea how the league is going after xmass, and that's without all the above .


7.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 20:42:54
i remember jose getting hammered for the sort of crap we are playing now. but because ole is a ex player we have to mind what we say. his football is worse than joses was with a better team.


8.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 20:25:22
ED047,

Both teams are like a patchwork quilt. Some patches fit, but most don't, so they've been made to fit a void.

I makes you wonder if VDB regrets leaving Ajax. He clearly is a talented player, but for some reason OGS benches him. Perhaps Ole was coerced into having him, who knows.

Both clubs have been inept at recruiting, apart from one or two players here and there.

It is frightening when you look at the amount of money Utd have spent since Fergus has left, and have had very little success.

As a fan I am frustrated at how little an effort a lot fo the players put in. When Cavani came on yestrday, he was running around in spaces, dragging players out of position, whilst others remained oblivious to him. He was even tracking back, which reminded me of how Rooney used to be at his peak. You can see why Fernandes gets frustrated as either the players lakc the ability to think or just can't be bothered to run and remain largely static.

I don't expect OGS to see out the season. Perhaps he should take a note of other managers like Kopp and even Bilic yesterday who are always animated on the sidelines barking instructions amd most importantly showing passion. Another frustrating season lays ahead for both clubs.

{Ed047's Note - can’t argue with any of that MH, we currently have players like Aubamayang doing next to nothing and he’s our captain.

At one point a player had it on our right wing and Auba was just strolling away into the middle with his back to the ball!

Arteta is currently getting a free ride for me because he has zero experience, he has a steep learning curve to negotiate if he is to last any length of time.

I don’t get the DVB situation either mate and honestly with the money you’ve spent there should be a team bristling with talent and a manager giving Klopp and Guardiola some serious concerns.


9.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 21:01:01
Daz that's the laughable part. The hypocricy and double standards shown is hilarious. People throwing stones while firmly standing in a greenhouse. Complete hypocrites.


10.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 21:05:06
I think our buffoon of a manager has also beat a Pep City team a few times. It's obviously not all that anymore.

{Ed047's Note - like the OP said, on your day you can beat anyone, I ask what other teams can also say that?

Does it mean he’s the right man for the job or that you’re heading in the right direction.

Did Unai Emery’s unbeaten run mean anything, did Arsenal beating Liverpool and City at the end of last season, or in fact Chelsea in the FA Cup.

So what does Ole beating PSG, City or Chelsea say. Does that really say you’re going places, looking like you’re on the right path or even have the right players Nou and have a genuine style of play and a true leader on the pitch.

Because I don’t see you or us having any of that.

You are saying the same things, making the same excuses that people did for Wenger.

From top to bottom can you deny you have much if anything right?


11.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 21:26:00
I watched the first half of the Leeds game. Player for player they are nowhere near the level of ours, yet, the knew what they were doing, played a brand of attacking football, organised, worked together, played to tactics, ran rings around Arsenal, who made us look ordinary.

If AJH wants a “narrative” then let’s ask why they can be organised so well, yet our better players cannot. The answer is Leeds have a good coach, who knows how to organise, we have Ole. People keep posting support for Ole, all it does is keep this nonsense, this mediocrity going. If our coach organised like Bielsa we wouldn’t have a problem.


12.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 21:27:30
Let's judge at the end of the season instead of 8 games in?
Last season we finished 3rd, that's definitely a step in the right direction .
And obviously based over a full season not 8 games .
People said all this last season, they are saying the same things now .

{Ed047's Note - why are you duped into believing finishing 3rd is a step in the right direction.

If Mourinho finished 2nd and won a trophy but Ole finished 3rd and lost 3 semi finals, how do you deduce that is a step in the right direction.

You are just constantly clutching at any straw and accuse me of trolling because it suits your narrative and those others amongst you that don’t want to see the wood for the trees.


13.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 21:46:00
ED047,

Utd have thrown money into transfer without knowing/ accepting what is the actual problem. i.e no DOF or allowing a DOF to work as a DOF and not in a restricted role.

I've had many an argument with my Dad over Harry Maguire. His argument was, well a lot of ex footballers etc really rate him . i'd say look and tell me from what you have seen ans compare hi to Rio or Vidic etc and tell me is he good enough. The answer for me is no.

Fortunately I found a few clips and paused live games to show my Dad how poor positionally Maguire is, in particular playing the opposition players inside which more oftnlen than not led to a goal being scored.

I'm hoping to see a CB pairing of Tuanzebe and Bailly as both are far comfortable on the ball and have the pace to sort themselves out if required. Granted both have been injured alot, but Maguire even injured Bailly without realising it.
Wiyh those two as CBs Utd could player higher up the pitch a d actually play a pressing style of football.

Whe Utd beat Leipzig, the scoreline flattered them as Leipzig fell to pieces, yet it was hhailed as a great victory.

{Ed047's Note - it’s been a mess mate and has previously been described as a scatter gun approach and pretty much what you’re saying.

A lot of the signings making no sense whatsoever. I can’t argue about Maguire either but I guess it’s not his fault the powers that be decided to pay the huge price they did, I don’t imagine in their wildest dreams he or Pepe imagined they’d be valued at those crazy prices.

I haven’t seen much of Tuanzebe but what I have seen of him I was really impressed and again Bailly never seems to get a long enough run but they could well be a better answer that the current two.

I felt the same about PSG where it just seemed Mbappe and Neymar simply wanted to show boat, made themselves look stupid and thus the team were just an embarrassment.


14.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 21:54:16
Ed 47 jose got sacked the following season with the squad in a mess.
We have and are rebuilding that squad .

You want to see the wood for the trees? the league never lies at the end of the season .
We finished 3rd, as bad as you like to make us out to be only liverpool and city finished higher .
You said all of this last season how awful we where etc and that's just your opinion. The fact is we where the 3rd best team in the league last year .
Your entitled to your opinion but remember that's all it is . An opinion.

{Ed047's Note - What has Jose getting sacked got to do with it, is this yet another attempt to try and prove some kind of point.

Ole did not better the achievements of Jose, so where in your head is that moving forward.

What in finishing 3rd and losing 3 semi finals is an improvement.

Everyone has supposedly been rebuilding this United squad, to the tune of a billion quid.

Do you look even remotely like wining something?

In essence Ole will finish 2nd and get to what, one, two or three of those finals?

You will literally say anything to cover up for reality.


15.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 21:58:55
Redman
Leeds drew 0.0 with a 10 man arsenal .
Got beat by palace the week before 4.1
Got beat by Leicester the week before that 4.1 .
.


16.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 22:19:53
Ed reality is we finished 3rd .
Even tho you spent all season saying how awful we are?
Ole hasn't yet bettered the achievement of jose but this is a different squad .
And its a squad ole has taken in a different direction.
In oles first season we finished 6th .
Second season we finished 3rd .
I also think we have a better squad now then when we took over .
Still a good bit behind the scouse but improving .


17.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 22:47:53
Ed047, nobody is saying everything is rosy. Even the most optimistic on here know there are issues. Trying to make out like anyone who still thinks Ole should be given a chance and let's see where we are nearer the end of the season, are a bunch of naive, wide-eyed dreamers, is just stirring and adding to the over-emotional arguments you already see on here. Some of us just don't get our knickers in as much of a twist as others, over the result of a football match.


18.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 23:26:25
I am not a fan of judging a managers success based on the final position in the short term. The mirror is always ghe stadium, the football you play.
At Joses second year we finished second but scoring more goals than our expected goals suggested and concede far far less (i think 17 if i remember correctly) than our expected goals again suggested. We weren't that good, we were lucky and De Gea had a superb season, futhermore our rivals at the time werw nowhere near this year's level, especially Liverpool and Chelsea. So that suggested that next year will come a "correction", unless ofcourse we dramatically improve something we didn't.
Jred talks this nonsense over and over and over again, that we finished third and that "we were the third best team in the league". So, if we have loosed at Leicester the final day and finished 5 we would be the fifth best team in the league? Really? So all comes to one game to decide if we are good?
The reason Ed "trolls" some posters is not that they have different opinions, ofcourse not, who doesn't want a good conversation? Its because (in this case) we must forgot everything and forgot what we see but only remember that we finished third. Its because they say that fact to suit the agenda without any real conclusion.


19.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 23:29:22
to true ken but no point knocking when there is nobody in. ed 47 hits it right on the head as a other team supporter without rose tinted glasses. he could of easily come on taking the piss when arsenal beat us. but he knows his team is in the same situation but does not try and hide it.


20.) 23 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 23:41:59
Jred you are a hypocrite you were calling for joses head 10 games into his final season. As was I. Along with many others.
You wanted jose but you lost faith in him to be a success so when others don't have faith in ole they are only saying what you were saying for the previous incumbent. But now we are ridiculas.
You were constantly posting that jose was not getting enough from the team . Do you think ole is?
So you think the play is better under ole now than it was 18 months ago?
I understand anybody being of the opinion of giving ole time, but i don't agree with that.
But even those with that opinion have to recognise that its still not convincing and that its very poor to watch.
For every stat 1 side of the argument produces the other side can produce an opposing one. And if shappy can't think of a stat to back his argument his twists and turns one until it does😂

I get the frustration to be honest on both sides. Lots of i told you so posts and lots of 'banter snipes' i don't see any harm in that its all part of the craic in here. No point in people complaining about it. If you live by the sword you die buy the sword. I can't think of 1 regular poster who hadn't done it and still don't do it. Its no big deal its a banter site with a bunch of 'strangers'.
Nobody is more pleased than when we win more than me and me no more than anybody else.
I've been wrong about loads of things as have you and everybody else.
Its in oles hands to change people's opinions. Mine will change if he does well and the team start playing well consistently. I wouldn't give him Any more time but he has it and until he gets the team playing well enough my opinion won't change. Opportunity knocks for ole to change opinions 3 points every week will go a long way to doing that.
A few wins on the spin will get people off his back and give him credit in the bank to allow a slip but anything less and the hope will be dashed again. I've no faith but still have hope and i expect that's the same for many others.
We need to remember that nobody is saying any different about ole than others said about previous managers.
As for being repetitive how many times did you post 'a breadth of fresh air' so its a bit off to be jumping on people paying the same thing over and over when you are as guilty as they are.


21.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 00:29:30
Herrera,

That’s exactly how it works, if you finish 3rd over 38 games you’re the 3rd best team in the league, once you’ve played everyone twice that’s the true position and really the only way to judge.


22.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 02:12:16
Jred

Comprehension is not your strong point, you seem to struggle to comprehend a point. Let’s make it simpler for you. My point about Bielsa is that you can see the plan, the method, the way they are playing and it is attractive. He has inferior players to us by a long way, they may struggle because of the level of players, yet there is a plan, a pattern they play too. They are attractive to watch, meanwhile you defend the dross Ole served up. Ole has been totally incapable of doing that, so imagine what a better coach could do with our players. You won’t get it, you will refuse to see it, because that is your entrenched position.

{Ed0666's Note - we have discussed the same topic in a couple of podcasts...put Klopp or pep in charge of United and that’s a team challenging for the title. Not saying we’re right but we’re not wrong either. Ole is treading water animatedly. Needs to be put out of his misery.


23.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 04:38:39
Redman
Again no need to get personal?
It no where near as simple as you make out .
Jose is a good coach the football was dross
Lvg was a good coach the football was dross .
Not every managerial appointment works out we see that every season.

Where was Leeds organisation against Crystal palace? Answer thst

Comparing any manager in the world with " if klopp was in charge " is daft imo . Klopp is probably the best manager in the world if he was in charge of any other team he would probably be doing better? Or do you not think they would

Ken
When jose finished 2nd you asked me 100 times should he get sacked . Each time I said no .
You are hypocritical for defending the poor footy under jose and getting you knickers in a twist over ole .

You posted all last season ole had to finish in the top 4 . Until he did then you changed your mind, on the last day of the season . 2 week before you where adamant if he finished top 4 he should keep his job that was the target . Until he did?
And then you post opportunity knocks for ole to get 3 points and get people of his back But it doesn't tho does it. because even when we win, when we reach the targets you and others set, you just move the goal posts
.
Nouczmp sums it up no one is saying things are rosey but you and others get you knickers in a twist over the slightest things?

We are 8 games in, of a very strange season .
This time last year yous where saying we would be relegated .

As for a breath of fresh air . It was a bit of a dig . You have to remember not everybody takes this site as seriously as you . For godsake people talking about relegation etc, clearly they know nothing about footy . But you can come on here and pretend to be whoever you like .


24.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 06:41:59
Jred

You really do struggle with understanding points. Leeds have a whole set of inferior players, yet have an identity, what is the Ole identity?

You specifically ask where Leeds organisation was against Crystal Palace? A more pertinent question is where was ours, where was Ole’s when Palace embarrassed us? Where was Ole’s organisation against Spurs?

Bielsa is a far far better coach than Ole, how is that acceptable for the supposed biggest club in the world? It’s because he scored a goal 21 years ago that people associate with former glory and refuse to say anything negative about him.

{Ed001's Note - to be fair, have a look at the goals Palace scored against Leeds, only the 4th was about poor organisation and that was when they were chasing the game and got caught. There was a lot of luck on Palace's side with the deflection etc.}


25.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 07:40:26
Jred you are a joke fella. 😂 its hard to know if your on a wind up or if you are being genuine.
Absolute joke with no credibility with a lot of people on the site. You are the proverbial empty vessel that just makes a lot of noise. Like a punch drunk boxer.
You called for jose's head 10 games into a season and now you critisise others for dong the same with ole. Simple.
You said jose should be sacked 10 games into the season i agreed with you then. But don't have a pop at others for having the same opinion about a different manager.
I don't take the site that seriously but will defend my character when you make lies up and put personal falsehoods out there. You come across to many on here as being an idiot and a particularly nasty person. But that could be said for s few. You tell redman not to get personal yet accuse me of having multiple accounts and of being ed047, and you wouldn't accept it was not true. Making a complete tit out of yourself. No recognition of your false accusation either when it was proven otherwise but i wouldn't expect it from your sort to be fair.

When did i say we will be relegated lat year. When?
Redman said he didn't think we would be relegated but were showing relegation form as far as i remember which was true. As we had only won 3 league games in 10 which is relegation form if you extend it through a full season. i'm sure even you can comprehend the basic math in that statement. It was never a likelihood and a bit ott but if you extent the first 10 games into a season it was relegation threatening form. That's basic math.
My knickers are not in a twist. Supporting Football is a hobby its not that important in the greater scheme of life. When its crap i feel its ok to say so but it doesn't bother me that much at all. It doesn't put food on my table no knickers in a twist at all.
I defended poor football under jose to a point. While we were winning trophies and still relatively competitive it was ok. I wanted jose out in his 3rd season because uncompetitive poor football is useless. In fact I've said many a time he should have resigned begore a ball was kicked in his 3rd season Competitive poor football i can live with while hoping it improves and recognising it takes time.
You don't care about poor football at all i don't think. You supported jose through poor football until you lost faith and your supporting ole through poor football and have not lost faith yet like the majority on here. That's fine its your prerogative. i'm sure you the penny will drop and you will turn your back on ole like you did jose eventually.
Your the only one that appears to have your knickers in a twist.
Just remember you post digs by your own admission so expect people to have a dig back. To be fair you don't object to that too often yourself because you do usually start any antagonistic behaviour on here imo.
Ajh jred posts digs to antagonize people so no need to jump in to defend him. You have heard it from the horses mouth above.
If you try to make digs at a bunch of people if they have a go back it might appear to be pack mentality but it wasn't discussed or arranged it was a lot of individuals getting fed up of 1 making constant snipes.
Ajh you are are a long time poster try and have a word with jred who by his own admission posts digs. Maybe if he stops being an arse and making digs and having snipes there will be less of what appears to be pack mentality towards him in return. You have had a pop at the wrong people imo.


26.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 08:16:57
Ken
For someone who doesn't get there knickers in a twist you certainly seem to have your knickers in a twist.
False acusations 🤦‍♂️ i said "are you 47" personally I thought it was funny . You obviously didn't as you take the site very seriously.
But to label that a false accusation. Come on stop being dramatic .
I posted or ended a few of my post with like a breath of fresh air, or #breathoffreshair. Probably as a bit of a wind up 😂but that got your knickers in a twist. It certainly isn't a personal comment aimed at any one .
And let's be honest breath of fresh air isn't the worse thing in the world to say .

You talk about hypocrisy your as bad as anyone, but get upset if anyone points it out .

Jose shouldn't of got sacked for finishing second I said that at the time .
Ole shouldn't of got sacked for finishing 3rd
I think 8 games into the season is to early to judge especially when you take into account some of the things I've posted above .
Last season I thought we where improving and would finish top 4 ( yourself and many disagreed) .
I think our squad is improving .

You can twist that as much as you want or call me names as much as you want . Honestly I don't care.


27.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 09:02:20
Im not upset at all your entitled to your opinion maybe you are interpreting a tone my response was now not written in.
Most on here can see you for what you are jred.
There is no reason you should care what people on here think of you, most of us don't and will never meet its not a popularity contest. Its a site for a bit of craic and to express how you feel all things united are going.
Perhaps you would prefer if nobody criticised ole until your ready and have given up hope. Then when you say its ok everybody else will be free to express their opinion.


28.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 09:08:36
I should also point out and I'm not the only person to raise this .
Although it gets constantly ignored no-one not a single person is saying everything is great .
Some feel things aren't as bad as others would like to make out .
Very much like last season we didn't get relegated we didn't finish bottom half we didn't finish mid table we didn't finish outside the top 4.
We where the 3rd .


29.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 09:12:53
Ken
Maybe your interpreting a tone in my response was now not written in?
Maybe ken people can see you for what you are?
Like I say there are always 2 sides.


30.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 09:42:26
Everybody loves a good old fashioned willy waving contest. 😂
Jred, you’re wrong. Ole must go. The End. 🤣.


31.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 09:48:47
Jred

You said no need to get personal, whilst you have posted a number of times accusing me of being “bitter” when we win, something totally untrue. You say you get it from my posts. I get the tone from you in those posts yet you are now playing innocent with Ken. Priceless.


32.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 09:58:21
Redmam
100% when we win you sound bitter imo .


33.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 10:02:14
Crickey! This is fun. Good morning everyone 😁.


34.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 10:13:23
I’d give it up as a bad job jred, the hounds are out, you aren’t allowed an opinion on here anymore without the same people (and now Ed’s too) telling you that your opinion is wrong. It’s becoming toxic and unenjoyable, the worst thing is we are on the back of 2 wins!

I was called a name by an editor yesterday and I hadn’t even posted for about a week and had decided to have a break, I read down the page and the editor who apparently doesn’t care is once again getting personal for no reason, if that’s how this site is now then fair play but you can see why positive posts get a lot of agree’s but no comments backing them up, what’s the point?


35.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 10:14:41
Good morning MancMan. Did you bring the popcorn? 😂.


36.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 10:19:04
Morning, MancMan 😁.


37.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 10:34:33
Morning😇.


38.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 11:07:20
Gds2. People log in over and over again and agree with their own posts. It is worth exposing them i'm going to work with the eds to try and find a way to do that its not a difficult but is an arduous task. Its best not to let folk know when its sorted just maybe post a league table of who have been agreeing with themselves the most. Sort of like a clown league table. 😁.


39.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 11:19:38
Ken,

You know more about that than me, maybe you have been doing it, not something I’ve done to be honest so crack on with your arduous task. Funny how with no evidence of that happening you’ve decided that’s the case to prove your own point, seriously this site is getting a clique which really is not allowing sensible debate.


40.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 11:36:09
Ken
Your going to work with the eds to see who has been agreeing with their own posts .
And you think you don't take the site a bit serious.


41.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 11:36:10
Redman to be fair if it comes across like that to jred he is entitled to say it.
Id think you have to have a warped mind to think like that. I would imagine 99% of folk don't think your bitter and can read your posts objectively.


42.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 11:39:25
People agree with their own posts? That's crazy, I never agree with myself.

A good ding dong this morning. I think it did everyone some good to get that out of their systems.

For me, one of the great things about football is that everyone has an opinion and nobody is wrong.

It's a subject that we all get passionate about so it's inevitable that there is a bit of rough and tumble on these pages. But, we are all big boys and girls plus I don't think it ever crosses the line and get's nasty.

Keep it up folks!


43.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 11:43:19
It works both ways GDS so stop playing the victim card.


Back of 2 wins making it sound like we are on the back of 2 PL titles. Sounding like Arsenal fans.

Ken, agreed there are a lot of them doing it. GDS just agreed with his own opinion 😂😂.


44.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 11:43:02
There is proof that's what I'm saying it just needs to be collated which is an arduous task. Worth doing when the time allows imo. But not a priority.
Who stops debate gds2?


45.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 12:04:59
I’ve just been through and agreed with all of my own posts Ken to make the job that little bit harder for you 😉.

No victim card here Shan you lovely lovely fella, just pointing out what’s happened whilst continuing to be nice to everyone.


46.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 12:24:26
Does this go someway to explaining how a person might end up answering a question that was never posted 🤔.


47.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 12:38:35
I'd like to apologise for the original post, its all my fault :-)


48.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 13:11:27
See Tony what you did now. You should have simply asked peoples opinion on Wayne Rooney.


49.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 13:36:00
Investigations into people liking their own posts 😂 I've heard it all now. Commissioner Ken 😂😂.


50.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 15:32:21
That's how it works GDS? that's all fine then. We are the third best team in the league and i am not worried at all. But if we had lost in the final game against Leicester and finished fifth i would worry.
So as i said all comes to one game.
And what exactly does this mean? Because that's the real point. Being the third best team in a year means what? Leicester being the best team for a year (when they won the league) means what about their future? that's they will compete in the future? Us being the second best team in Mourinhos second season means what? We were in the right direction and we will compete?
I will answer myself, means nothing for the potential of the team. In Mourinhos second year we finished higher than Liverpool but next year Liverpool finished the league with 96 points. Do you know the reason? Because that's not how it works.


51.) 24 Nov 2020
24 Nov 2020 12:15:07
Ken,

Winning 3 out of 10 games is not relegation form. By that average over a whole season you have around 36 points. Add an approximate of 10 draws and you get 46 points. I do not know if anyone has ever been relegated with 46 points. Only going per your assertions though, nothing set in stone. Basic math as you say.

Maybe whoever said we were in relegation for with 3 wins in 10 games doesn't know much about the game.