22 Nov 2020 22:51:44
Let put things onto context a bit. Liverpool had four of their best players out with a makeshift centre half pairing but still played fast fluid attacking football and scored three goals against a team far better than WBA. That's how far off the pace we are.

1.) 22 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 23:21:36
Not sure Leicester played better than WBA to be honest, and Leicester also had 3 first choice defenders and their first choice DM out. You wouldn’t believe it from the sky narrative. Also, you can’t really judge on one game, I agree we are behind but not based on one match.

2.) 23 Nov 2020
22 Nov 2020 23:41:18
GDS I think they played a lot better and don't forget they were without several of their best players and up against a better team than us. True you cannot judge on one match but my statement was based on the last year and a half. We have flattered to deceive.

3.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 01:08:04
Did you watch the game? Leicester were awful, I’m not sure any team has played worse than them all weekend. Liverpool played well but Leicester allowed them to and couldn’t put 2 passes together, very disappointing for them, but like I said, missing a few important players.

{Ed0666's Note - one minute leicester were awful? Maybe that had to do with the fact we were irrepressible. We had one first choice defender in the back four. A midfield that was pieced together and imagine you’re team without Telles, Lideloff, McGuire, Fernandes, oh doesn’t matter you’re right Leicester were awful.

4.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 06:20:58
I think the point is we hear ole going on making excuses about how we hadn't trained together for 2 weeks then we see a made up Liverpool team show if your coached properly and all the squad know what they are supposed to be doing you don't necessarily need to train for days before a game, their roles are drilled into them until its clear what's expected, our lads look like they don't know what they are supposed to be doing or aren't behind the manager in what he wants them to do.

5.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 07:38:51
Way way off the pace of Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea, City at the very least and it has to do with the personnel as much as the desire. A real shakeup required Ole and all (well can keep Bruno)!

6.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 09:06:41
Leicester were poor yesterday because they were totally outplayed by a much better team.

7.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 09:20:16
Wiggy and Ken agree thanks. The biggest problem is that I am afraid we are stuck like this for years to come. If a manager as strong as Jose could not get the club to organise and do things properly then how do we ever expect to progress.

8.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 09:38:37
Yet when we win against one of the stronger teams, they're always just poor.

9.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 10:05:04
Nou,

Exactly, it’s madness isn’t it. Leicester were missing 3 of their first choice back 4 just like Liverpool were and Ndidi is a huge loss for them, I know Liverpool played well or ‘irrepressible’ but Leicester were bloody awful. I’m sick of my opinion being made to feel stupid by editors of this once great site, it’d becoming tedious.

10.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 10:19:22
Liverpool’s 11 cost 3 times as much as Leicester’s, you’d think from the narrative that it was an under 18 side with all academy players in it and Leicester had their first team out. I expected Liverpool to win when I saw the sides, they played really well and deserved it, I’m just saying Leicester were dreadful, which they were.

11.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 10:25:28
GDS let's not get into the price of a team its a slippery slope for red tinters like you.

12.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 11:20:03
GDS the Ed has a very valid point. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean he’s making you feel stupid. If your butthurt by the differing in opinion that’s fine, but to say the eds are attempting to make you look stupid. Makes you look stupid.

13.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 11:47:49
Red,

Read down the page before commenting maybe, this isn’t something that’s happened just once and I am right to point it out.

14.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 11:36:18
The premier league is too competitive to say "if we only just beat them and they beat them then they must be better".

This season has proven anyone can beat anyone.

15.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 11:38:30
GDS, do you think with our hopeless performance, would we have beaten an awful Leicester?

16.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 11:39:08
Some folk don't need help to look stupid😁 btw i count myself in that too😂😂.

17.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 11:44:16
Gds the fact that you try to belittle the site and the efforts of the eds to give most of us readers or posters a place to discuss or vent is childish. Your opinion is no more important than anyone elses if you can't see that maybe you need to get out n get some fresh air for a few weeks. If you can't be challenged for what your posting why bother. Fyi the site is still great i for one apreciate the efforts of the eds and all the posters on here!

18.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 12:00:29
W16,

Great view and atmosphere up in the top of Stretford end isn’t it? Good to see other posters who go to the games on here, not sure why the anger to be honest, everyone very upset today even after a win. We are making the same point though, people’s opinions should be respected whichever way they are, don’t think I’ve ever said my opinion is better than anyone else’s, just don’t expect to be called a clown by a so called editor that’s all. Works both ways yet people seem upset I’m calling it out.

19.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 12:02:09
So far on the site in the last 2 days I’ve been called a clown, stupid and a ‘red tinter’, I’ve hardly even posted, yet I’m apparently being childish, everyone just proving exactly what I said, jred got it yesterday and myself today, I’ve hardly even posted!

20.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 12:10:30
Shan,

I think we would have beaten Leicester if they played like yesterday, we beat them twice last season so no reason why we wouldn’t this season, it would be a good time to play them with a lot of players missing and their defence was all over the place. Only Burnley have created less chances this season in the league than them and that’s despite scoring 5 at the Etihad, they are clinical when they do create but never looked like scoring yesterday in my opinion. I could be wrong though just like you could, that’s what the site is about, you lovely lovely man.

{Ed001's Note - but you play the same way they do. You struggle against teams that play like Leicester did, that drop off and allow you to have the ball. Those are the games that cause you problems. I fail to understand why you think that would mean you would have beaten them? Just because they got destroyed by a well-managed side doesn't mean a badly managed side could do the same thing. I would love an explanation of how you would have beaten them when you try and drop off and counter exactly the same as them. It was the high press that did for them, you don't play one.}

21.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 12:45:56
There is more than one way to skin a cat Ed, I think we would have caused that 2nd string Leicester defence problems like we did last season, I doubt they would have played the same way against us either, they looked totally within themselves and scared of putting 2 passes together, the own goal obviously didn’t help but they could have been 3 down before that and you could tell they were going to lose after 5 minutes.

My original point was that I don’t think we can judge it on one game, if we did we could look at the Villa v Liverpool gane and say Liverpool are terrible, but that isn’t the case. I said I think we are a long way behind Liverpool but people seem to ignore things like that to argue with the smallest of points. Surely nobody thinks Leicester played well yesterday, I’m confused if you do.

{Ed001's Note - second string? Only Soyuncu was missing from the back 3. What a silly comment and just smacks of bitterness. They did exactly what they did to City but Liverpool put their chances away, that was the difference and didn't sit off them and allow the easy breaks that City did. They weren't scared to put passes together, they were pressed into mistakes. Your original point is nonsense. You are a counterattacking team that can't play against teams that drop off and keep losing to them but you now have decided you would beat one of those teams.

When did anyone say Leicester played well? This is your problem, and why you engender such responses, you twist things constantly. How can anyone debate sensibly with someone who can't understand what is said to them and instead makes up complete nonsense. Nobody said Leicester played well, what everyone is saying is that it was because Liverpool didn't allow them to play by getting in their face, which is exactly what City didn't do and exactly what United don't do either.}

22.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 13:14:42
Wow this has all got a bit silly hasn’t it.

For what it’s worth GDS2 I agree with you. Leicester were poor yesterday. We also beat them last season, as you say, so I’m not sure why you are being challenged about beating them this season, which is hypothetical anyway, so it’s not really a valid argument against what your opinion.
We were equally turgid last season as we are this season, the only difference is we have a stronger bench this season.

I can’t wait to come on here after Leicester beat us later this season, and have fellow United fans shout ‘I told you so’.

{Ed001's Note - that's not what it is about, and you are another who clearly doesn't get the point. Leicester have changed the way they play this season, last season they were caught going forward against you, this season they are sitting back and playing more like they did when they won the league. So what happened last season is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the way they played yesterday is the kind of tactic United have consistently struggled to get results against under Ole. I am not sure why that is so difficult to understand?}

23.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 13:19:27
So we both agree Leicester didn’t play well, that’s all my original point was Ed, everyone so triggered today it’s awfully tiresome.

Pereira, Soyuncu, evans, castagne is Leicester’s first choice defence imo, 3 of them were missing. They had Albrighton at right wing back I don’t think that’s their first choice defence.

I’m silly, can’t understand what is said to me, twist things and I’m a clown, missing anything?

{Ed001's Note - Castagne? He was bought because Pereira is out for the season. Like I said, it would be either/or of them. He has also picked Justin at left-back when Castagne was fit. Even that youngster on the bench (is it Thomas?) has played ahead of Castagne as a left-back.

I don't know why I am bothering, you are again twisting things, playing the victim, it is sad that you are making snide comments about how people are triggered, when you are the one, as usual, triggering things. It is pointless talking on here. I am sure you will come back with some smart arse comments, as usual, then try and act all innocent. You have been doing the same for years and years now. It is never your fault, but somehow you are always right there in the middle. Odd huh? Don't bother replying. It is time this conversation finished as it is going nowhere.}

24.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 13:54:08
So their 2 first choice right backs were out injured yet they only had 1 player missing. They played badly, Liverpool played well, I don’t understand why people are arguing or getting their big boy pants in a twist.

25.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 14:13:35
Leicester is nowhere near as good as their position suggests. Or at least they don't play as good as some results suggest, like the win at City and Arsenal.
That don't make them a bad team and no point to take the credit out of Liverpool with stupid excuses. Yesterday Liverpool were superb, they played like the best team in the league and schooled Leicester and made them seem like a championship side. People like to make stupid excuses, like it would make a hell of difference if they had their first choice right back fit. Or in our case, like it would make a hell of difference if we had buy Sancho, who doesn't even make a difference at Dortmund this year.
GDS2 yes, unless they can play with 2 right backs that's one "player" missing. Its one position.

26.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 14:21:25
Has anybody on this thread actually said Liverpool didn't play well? Because as far as I can see, every post on it has said they did.

{Ed0666's Note - let’s just all take a breath...ommmmmmm

27.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 14:47:17
Yes Noucamp they did. Not straight but they did it. I think i can understand what i am reading. They tried to take the credit off Liverpool making excuses about the injuries Leicester have or how bad they played. They even said that we would have beaten Leicester if they played like yesterday.
So they clearly believe that yesterday's result was more about Leicester playing badly rather Liverpool being superb.

28.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 15:05:12
I'm feckin zen, Ed0666 😁.

{Ed0666's Note - 😂👍

29.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 17:49:18
Read up noucamp. I said Leicester were poor because they were out played by a much better team.
Liverpool made them look poor. Totally out played them with a make shift team
Leicester also had a few out to be fair.

30.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 18:12:29
That's my point, Ken. When we beat someone like Liepzig or PSG or City, they're always just poor. We never outplay them to make them look poor. That would be giving the team and Ole too much credit, and we can't have that.

31.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 19:40:47
This site is all very entertaining lately 😂 Always a common denominator though.

32.) 23 Nov 2020
23 Nov 2020 21:15:30
Agree angel. Great stuff today 😂.