31 Jan 2021 16:25:43
Rodgers should be sacked now, losing to a team as poor and obvious to play against as Leeds he has to go, he can only be described as a managerial dunce. Or maybe it's just a weird season? Who knows.

1.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 16:28:33
I went on the Arsenal chat yesterday as ours was then usual neg fest, interestingly their's had a completely different vibe.

2.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 16:30:22
Definitely not you GDS2 mate.

3.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 16:53:56
Herrera,

It was just tongue in cheek mate, reading down the page there is a lot of bolloxology so thought I’d join in.

4.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 17:00:50
We need you and the Care Bears back at Old Trafford GDS2. Ole is missing the Care Bear Stare!

5.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 17:08:55
But you made a point GDS2. That another manager lost at home etc so it is a weird season.
But why didn't you see that another manager like Bielsa with a championship level squad plays always on the front foot and doesn't afraid?
You must always see the best and trying to compare with them and see what they do right instead of comparing with unsuccessful teams. But i said it again, we put the bar so low that our manager can jump it.

6.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 17:11:11
Mumbles,

I’d love to be back at the stadium, sure a lot of the match going reds are the same, it’s a huge miss from a fan point of view but also I think a lot of the games are lacking intensity because of it, especially our home games. Interestingly away wins are so much higher than normal this season so it definitely is making a difference. Very hard season to analyse because of that and hard to compare to other seasons, obviously the last week has been poor but we’ve all said for weeks let’s just enjoy the ride, there will be ups and downs for all teams in this odd season.

I must say I am just glad football is on as it is a huge respite from what is going on in the world and the first lockdown when football wasn’t on was much harder in my opinion, I am enjoying the games for what they are but it’s not the same for me not being at the games and never will be the same experience until we are back where we belong.

7.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 17:53:53
It is a weird season and that probably explains why we're so high up the league despite playing horrific football.

8.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 19:24:41
If Leicester had spent a billion on players over the last 6 years too I’d agree gds if it was a normal season with fans etc I’d guess we’d be 3 or 4 places lower.

9.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 20:00:00
If there were fans I think our home form would be better, as I said it’s really hard to analyse and you can’t predict that with any confidence Stand. You may well be right.

People always respond to my posts like I think Ole is amazing when I really don’t, I don’t think he’s the long term solution and I’ve said many times I’d have been happy to see him go after the game in Istanbul, but the form has turned around since then and as it stands we are a long way from the club sacking him.

He’s not a bad manager, he’s also not a great manager and that’s the problem we find ourselves with. He will probably get top 4 and keep his job, that means we as fans don’t have much choice but to hope that he continues to get results and grows himself with the young lads, he’s going nowhere so demanding it every time we don’t win a game just seems pointless to me, I’m obviously in the minority on here though which is fine.

10.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 20:11:23
Thats excuses GDS2. It seems that we only suffer without fans in our stadium because i see other teams are decent. At the other hand, as you say, our away form would be much worst if there were fans.
The only truth is that he is not good enough long term so he is not good enough in the short term too. At summer he will be here 2.5 years, are they 2.5 years well spend? 2,5 years wasted, with other manager we would be so much better.

11.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 21:45:16
GDS2, Manchester United should not have a manager in Charge who is "not great". It really is as simple as that. He got to manage Manchester United. He was given the job like it was a Make A Wish Foundation winner. We are simply existing as a football club right now.

Seeing posts like "the squad is poor, what do you expect" or "other X, Y and Z team are struggling, get over it" to me is a defeatist attitude. Fans are settling for mediocrity. We have the capacity as a club to compete at the top but from the top down we're amateurish. Because the people that make the decisions are incompetant doesn't mean our manager gets a free pass.

Would we settle for a "not great" goalkeeper? Or Defender? We just shipped a not great Lingard to West Ham.

If Jose was in charge for Ole's tenure, same team, same transfers, same results. He would be absolutely roasted. It's tedious this debate but if Ole was doing his job properly there wouldn't be a debate.

We're simply existing as a club because our manager is holding us back.

12.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 21:54:14
Mumbles,

I totally agree and definitely agree the debate is tedious, as I said whatever we say on here the club aren’t going to sack a manager who is 2nd in the league, it just isn’t going to happen. Apparently today liverpool are back in the title race, we are a point above them but people want the manager sacked, I understand but it’s not going to happen so it’s fairly tedious and pointless.

Herrera,

We are far from the only team suffering without fans in our stadium, Brighton just won their first home game of the season on the last day of January, Sheff United were great at home last season until they had no fans, there are far more away wins all round this season than there has ever been, it’s not an ‘excuse’, it’s a reason for teams not doing well at home, causation and correlation spring to mind, unless you think it’s a coincidence?

13.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 22:34:36
You do the same GDS2. You compare us with Brighton or Sheff. What about City and Liverpool who are first and second in the home league table? Are they have fans in their stadium?
We are below tenth in the home league table. It is nothing to do with having fans or not. The problem is at our home we have to play with the ball most time and we have no idea what to do . In none of our 10 home games we were superior-far superior than our opponents except Leeds. that's not the fans, its manager.
*It works both ways. If as you say we would be better at home with fans we would be worst away from home . If we stop this excuses maybe we will see the real problem.

14.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 22:36:46
One more thing. Braighton had no problem to dominate most matches like us Chelsea Fulham's and today with Spurs and they were unlucky and lacking something in the final third. It is nothing to do with fans.

15.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 23:50:03
Herrera,

I’ve got no idea what your argument is really, I haven’t said that we would have more points if there were fans, obviously it works both ways, but I’m saying that having fans in a stadium 100% makes a difference, have you never heard of having home advantage? Why do you think normally home teams have a much better chance of winning? of course it makes a difference.

Just because you’ve decided I’m using it as an ‘excuse’ which I’ve specifically said I’m not doesn’t mean that I am, I’m aware there are other issues, I’m also aware that having fans in a stadium makes a difference. If you think it’s a coincidence that’s fine, I’m pretty confident that it isn’t.

16.) 31 Jan 2021
31 Jan 2021 23:51:20
Do you think united playing at a full Old Trafford have more chance of winning a game against Liverpool than a game at a full Anfield? Why is that?

17.) 01 Feb 2021
01 Feb 2021 10:52:59
I'd love to have seen the reaction of a full OT when Utd were stinking the place out against Sheffield.

18.) 01 Feb 2021
01 Feb 2021 12:34:44
Me too Mancman, though I think the intensity would have been much higher with fans in, doesn’t look too likely we will have a full OT this season unfortunately but I can only imagine the buzz for the players if we did.

19.) 01 Feb 2021
01 Feb 2021 14:48:05
Not having fans is a fact for all teams. And yes that's an excuse GDS2. Its an excuse who doesn't let you see the real and big problem. That we are a counter attacking team who has no idea what to do against team sitting deep.

20.) 01 Feb 2021
01 Feb 2021 16:13:53
I never once used it as an excuse for crying out loud, I think that games are lacking intensity because of a lack of fans and that is meaning more away wins than usual. I don't need an excuse as I am not making a point that requires one.

21.) 01 Feb 2021
01 Feb 2021 16:15:40
Liverpool lost their home game against Burnley, I think with fans in they don't lose that game, something about the atmosphere at Anfield with the fans in, not an excuse, just a point I am making.