19 Apr 2021 09:08:22
When it was originally being discussed, I thought we may be leaving the premier league and hated the idea.

Now that the idea is a little clearer, I don’t think it’s that bad.

Those saying it’s just about greed and money, where have you been for the last few decades, of course it’s just about the money. Football became a business long ago, it’s only us fans that maintain some delusion that it’s about anything more. Money wins football, look at City, Chelsea etc, they didn’t get success because of their love of the game, and neither did we. Money gets better players, better players bring footballing success, which in turn brings more money.

As Ken says below, plenty of people couldn’t care less about the League Cup, some even the FA Cup, and others the Europa League. And let’s not kid ourselves, the vast majority are more interested in Utd vs City, or Utd vs Real Madrid, than they are about Utd vs Stoke.

So sure, we lose some tradition, but that happens, things change. Fifa, EUFA, the FA, the Premier League, we’ve all complained about them being more concerned with their own roles and power than thinking about the good of the game, this is no different, just a different bunch of rich elitists making decisions. I honestly don’t see the difference.

So, the argument about the founding 15, or whatever number it is, not being able to be relegated is a valid one. There’s something unpleasant about that, but everything else just seems to be an extension of what was always there. Those fans threatening a boycott will very quickly be replaced. Football as the highest level hasn’t been a working class man’s sport for a long time anyway. You can get all melancholy and nostalgic if you want, but things change and none of this is a real surprise.

Whilst initially I didn’t like it at all, realistically I’ll just accept it and enjoy watching Arsenal be bottom of the league.

1.) 19 Apr 2021
19 Apr 2021 09:37:25
Nothing is in stone yet. Uefas statement makes it clear these clubs can be banned from domestic competitions. That includes the Premier League.

2.) 19 Apr 2021
19 Apr 2021 09:47:53
Bang on red D.
Bar the no relegation and automatic qualification for founder members the whole thing looks a runner to me.
Find a way to make it more inclusive and I know I rather be spending my cash on a trip to support the team to Milan or turin than I would Barnsley or Watford.
All the posters that say they don't care about the keague Cup EL and fa Cup this is your doing!

3.) 19 Apr 2021
19 Apr 2021 10:10:43
Football is nothing without fans - Sir Matt Busby

Ironic.

4.) 19 Apr 2021
19 Apr 2021 10:14:04
James, the PL won't allow the big 6 to leave. They couldn't afford it. The big teams have always had the power and tolerated these other institutions standing over them.

It toom a few American bankers to realise that actually, they can weild that power far more efficiently if they show these old, slow and cumbersome institutions that they don't really need them.

The PL are only concerned because they realise they'll no longer be the top dogs.

The FA have become more and more irrelevant and ultimately omly care about maintaining what little relevance and power they still have.

EUFA are scared it's the end for them and all of the fat pay checks they've been receiving.

The top tier of football hasn't cared about the rest of the pyramid for decades, and the rest of them are mostly just there for the money anyway.

Fifa president, £3m salary in 2019. Head of the PL was about £2.5m. EUFA president salary is £1.6m pa (all from Google, probably not that accurate)

You can bet your ass those guys want to put a stop to any change.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool and Manchester United failed in attempt to disrupt the English game to support an expanded Club World Cup on a debenture basis - that was Project Bigfoot in 2020. The FA have tried to work a proposal that would see a smaller Premier League and introduce a Premier League 2 - the idea being with fewer Premier League games the higher-profile sides would be able to compete in any reshaped European competition whilst maintaining a their position in England - this appeals to some clubs (e.g. Chelsea) and allows The FA to keep control. Liverpool and Manchester United were involved in discussions but turned against it wanting more control themselves - and that led Liverpool to say they will form their own breakaway league. Attempts at a compromise solution have now fallen apart. Project Big Foot and is about FSG wanting more money and more control, and that is to some extent what is behind this latest proposal and why JP Morgan have been roped in to the Return of Bigfoot. This has a long way to run yet.}

5.) 19 Apr 2021
19 Apr 2021 10:29:37
They know they will be expelled from these competitions, giving them no choice to but to play the Super League in place of domestic competitions.

Ken, we will end up the Barnsley of the Super League. You won't won't to go and watch United being thumped week in week out will You?

Our owners can't compete domestically with City or Liverpool. Add Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus into that mix and we havnt a hope.

6.) 19 Apr 2021
19 Apr 2021 10:31:02
ken i'm sorry but that's just bs,

the traditions in which football was built, with this super rubbish have took away what the history of football in this country is about.

the idea that the founding **** will be guaranteed a place every season based on what? because it isn't merit.

guaranteed income of 300 million plus.

what about how the fa cup and league cup help the lower clubs? the traditions of what football is in this country are dead if this goes ahead.


they should allow these clubs to join this weekly league but kick them out of all other comps/ leagues if they want to do that

if they want to join this super league then you should be told to forfeit your right to be one of the clubs participating in our countries comps.

7.) 19 Apr 2021
19 Apr 2021 10:31:44
I thought the super league is being proposed to run from August to May, so wouldn't it conflict with the Premier League schedule?

8.) 19 Apr 2021
19 Apr 2021 10:37:59
You have been talking about this for a long time ed. Looks like your crystal ball was right.


How do you see it panning out?

{Ed002's Note - I see it dragging on and the courts becoming involved and discussions between the "elite" clubs group this week (which includes most of the sides involved in this proposal), perhaps follow up counter offers from two other factions, and at some point discussions with UEFA and FIFA. But a letter has already been drafted and sent saying legal action will be taken by SLCo and is already in hand.}

9.) 19 Apr 2021
19 Apr 2021 11:15:44
But what's the point in Leicester or Everton etc trying to win the league? So they might get thrown a bone for a season? Imagine the big 6 don't finish in the top 6 for some reason. All the club's above them don't get European places or play in a 2nd fiddle tournament. It makes mid table clubs have no ambition other than to stay in the league. How is that good for football. It creates a monopoly.

10.) 19 Apr 2021
19 Apr 2021 13:43:40
Isn't the Football Associations' trump card international football?