02 May 2021 07:38:54
"It's nice to see when the quality of a manager is more important than the experience you have"

Nice little quote from Jürgen Klopp on Ole being named Manchester United manager. He went on to say:

"Nobody knew how it would work and it worked out absolutely sensationally from the beginning and then a little dip, and now they look absolutely really good. He deserves credit for that along with his coaches".

So what do we take from this?

Is Klopp being genuine and he can see something in the way Ole is managing the club. Or are quotes said to the media not always entirely honest? In which case can we ever take a quote in the media at face value?

1.) 02 May 2021
02 May 2021 08:14:42
What do we take from this. Most Managers say nice things about their next opposition. How has it worked sensationally and who for? Liverpool have won the European Cup and the precious League on Ole’s watch. The Manager of our greatest rivals wants the ex Cardiff manager to stay in position because it gives Liverpool more chance to win the major trophies. Most opposition fans want Ole to stay.

2.) 02 May 2021
02 May 2021 09:27:34
Ofcourse the opposition managers and fans would love Ole to continue as they can have fun watching us stay in mediocracy.

3.) 02 May 2021
02 May 2021 09:28:09
Bit harsh Red, Ole has done well, been more consistent in the league than Moyes, LVG and Jose. He needs to improve in knockout competitions, hopefully he can do that his year.

I know you want instant success but that was never going to happen with Ole, his job was to stabilise the team and provide consistency. You cannot argue he hasn't done that, especially with our away form over the last 12 months.

I'm sure nobody knows more than Ole that he needs to win something, but if we win the EL this year, bring in a decent CB and get Cavani to sign for another year, I think that will be a successful year.

Out of interest, who would you get in to replace Ole at the moment?

{Ed014's Note - I’m sure it was you that suggested your squad was as good if not better than city’s, I assumed you’d been drinking, in which case his efforts have been piss poor.

4.) 02 May 2021
02 May 2021 09:36:12
I don’t think you can take anything from it, but I presume you will use it as evidence that Ole is the Messiah.

5.) 02 May 2021
02 May 2021 10:24:47
Not at all Fresh, I've said numerous times that I don't think Ole is good enough to take us back to the very top.

It seems that opinions must be polarised. If you think the manager should be sacked then you want to see his head on a pike outside Old Trafford, or if you don't think sacking him will make a huge difference then you think he is the Messiah.

Like I've said now for the millionth time it seems. I don't think Ole is a great manager, I do think he is doing okay under the circumstances. While I don't think a huge amount will change if/ when we change manager. The style of football has been fairly similar under Moyes/ LvG/ Jose/ Ole, so I doubt it'll change much under the next manager.

Truth be told I posted this for two reasons. Firstly, to highlight the near complete irrelevance of posting a quote to back up your opinion. It's a pointless endeavour trying to substantiate your opinion with the opinion of another person, especially when that opinion is taken out of context.

Secondly, just as a fishing exercise, for rubbishs and giggles 😂.

6.) 02 May 2021
02 May 2021 10:47:30
I wouldn't take a word of this seriously.

Ole has done fine, lots of mistakes but measurable improvement. Better football than Jose but a hell of a long way to go. Almost what you'd expect taking a rookie manager from Norway.

Failures are above him with the running of the club and player signings. he's done fine with what he's had but could have and should have had more.

There has been improvements in the squad and a number of players either moved or moving on: Sanchez, Smalling, Young, Darmian, Lukaku, Rojo. Andreas, Jones, Lingard, De Gea, Axel seems next.

He's also introduced, developed or improved a number of youth and bought players.

Externally we're are going to lose the EPL to a sovereign state who are condemned by Amnesty International. Investment of £2B (let's not talk about where it came from and what happend to the labour that made it) where our owners have taken out £1B. Let's be real how do you compete with that?

FSG have invested in players, wages and stadia in the same period and enjoyed success. Let's hope we win today and keep them out of the UCL so they feel the pinch of that investment.

Taking all if of this into account Ole has done some good things and has without doubt reinforced club values and culture. If he left now he leaves us in a better place.

The confines of our reality vs ability to deliver on fan ambitions are different concepts.

{Ed014's Note - wasn’t Ole bragging about how much money you’d have to spend even whilst there was a pandemic.

Liverpool haven’t spent as much as you or City and they won the league 🤷‍♂️

7.) 02 May 2021
02 May 2021 12:55:33
To be honest I couldn't give a flying f**k what Klopp says or thinks! I think he is preparing to loose so he's lining up the excuses.

{Ed014's Note - you need to let the bitterness go fella

8.) 02 May 2021
02 May 2021 13:46:42
There is tremendous support from manager to manager. They must converse very often besides just on matchdays and what we see or hear about. I think Klopp is a genuine guy and don't see any reason he'd present this angle for any particular reason if he didn't mean it.
I don't see any manager winning the league with Manchester United in the next few years, and that isn't a reflection on who is in charge now. City will add a world class striker next season, Chelsea are going from strength to strength and despite adding at least seven first team players this season Tuchel will add his own over summer. I suspect next season will be a scrap between those two. These things go in cycles, Utd were in one with great success over a long period and we were a bit spoilt, but it's someone else's turn now. At least we're not Arsenal, their fall from grace has been more alarming I'd say.

{Ed014's Note - very alarming but that’s what you get with owners with zero interest if football but rather just money.

The same reason you’ve been floundering around since 2013 and wasting a fortune in dosh.

9.) 02 May 2021
02 May 2021 14:18:27
Arsenal have managed to stay top half for a very long time, they may not have won much in recent years but neither have we! .

I wouldn't call arsenal's fall from grace alarming when you think they are still a top ten team, we have spent massive sums of money to try to maintain top four, and city spend insane amounts to be top of the pile. Money talks.

10.) 02 May 2021
02 May 2021 15:00:02
Ole is doing a great job, and Klopp is recognizing that. Funny how people in the game seem to recognize what he is doing but on here he is cast as a pantomime villain.

He is not the messiah, or what ever else people want to throw at those that support him.

He understands the club, from top to bottom (at least on the playing side) and has quietly gone about getting the club back to what is was when it was winning.

The flack he gets on here for playing a double pivot with Fred and McTom is relentless. He is accused of being boring, not wanting to win, destroying the tradition of the club. Yet mid week we destroyed Roma in a semi final playing this way, with exciting attacking football.

To still talk about the guy in terms of his cv now is quite frankly ridiculous. He is doing it, in the job, and is the best of the rest after a superb season from city.

What he needs is supporting, properly supporting and let's see if he can challenge next year for the title. If we hold back, and half support him - that might mean the club don't back him for what he wants to improve in the summer.

I'm not convinced we need limitless spending. But give the guy what he wants in terms of additions within a set budget and let's see what he's got.

If he fails again in the UCL group stages, then maybe we decide he just hasn't got that extra 5% it takes to be elite. If he's way off in the league then maybe it is time to say the same. But after this season? Not for me.

11.) 02 May 2021
02 May 2021 16:58:03
How much would it cost to get arsenal back into the top 4 do you thinK? 😉.