02 Jun 2021 17:20:39
We can forget about getting Conte to replace Ole, tabloids are reporting that he's in advance negotiations with Spurs to become their next manager. Spurs are also interested in hiring Paratici for the football director role. I know it's not the spurs page Ed02 but would this be good appointments in your opinion.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, very good.}

1.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 19:54:01
Well done to Spurs.
Getting a world class manager and a Director.

{Ed014's Note - don’t they need to confirm it first? Great signing if they do manage to get it over the line.

Really need to ensure they keep Kane more than ever now.

2.) 02 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 23:04:32
If we signed Conte I'd give it until the first game we failed to score before the same old people would be on here with their pitchforks calling his 3 at the back formation "too defensive" and "not in the style of Manchester United".

I like him, I think he is a good coach. For a couple of reasons I think he would be a terrible match for us.

Firstly, he is a pragmatic defence first coach. Something United fans have very little patience for. Secondly, he is volatile and speaks too openly. Which we have seen only ends with the players revolting against you and the board too happy to cut ties with someone who might be throwing the spotlight on their own incompetence.

People thought Jose would shake the owners up, all he did was shake them down for a nice big pay off as he walked out the door leaving a toxic mess to clean up.

A manager going to war with the owners will not help our club, no matter how much we might want them to.

While a manager who plays pragmatic, defend first football will curry very short favour with the fans.

3.) 03 Jun 2021
02 Jun 2021 23:46:17
Little patience? I would say there are a lot of people which had no problem with Mourinhos pragmatic and crap football for almost 2.5 years and they have no problem with Oles crap football for almost 2.5 years too. And that's all without reason because with all this pragmatic football we sawed little to no titles.
People would back Konte if he had us fighting for titles.

4.) 03 Jun 2021
03 Jun 2021 00:27:35
instead we will keep the yes man and keep playing crap football. he reminds me of rimmer in red dwarf but instead of a h he as l on is head for looser. but still he scored a goal in 99.

5.) 03 Jun 2021
03 Jun 2021 06:16:24
Conte is a serial winner.
I think anyone would take him over Ole.

Ole's team plays utter dross football and has bottled in semi's and finals.
Going into his 4th season, Ole has not even improved his in-game management.

Why reward failure when a top class manager is available?

6.) 03 Jun 2021
03 Jun 2021 07:59:52
What a load of rubbish shappy.

7.) 03 Jun 2021
03 Jun 2021 08:31:01
I think many on here have short memories if they think the football currently on display is the worst they have seen.

Instead of parking the bus for a 0-0 draw at home to Burnley like we saw under Jose we have witnessed a 9-0 thrashing of Southampton.

I completely agree that this team doesn't play great free flowing football. But we play much more entertaining football under Ole than we ever did under Jose or LvG. Where the most entertaining aspect about their time at the club was the interviews rather than what happened out on the pitch.
I also feel like the great football on display at our fiercest rivals (Liverpool and City) make the less than stellar football we are seeing harder to swallow.

Speaking of which it often seems many fans look over at Pep and Klopp and think what might have been if we had hired them.

Yet, we actually approached both of them before they took the Liverpool and City jobs. Both turned us down.

That's the thing with top managers, they are top managers because they can see through the crap and see what is in front of them. Be that a player with potential or a club that is a shambles but dresses itself up.

We won't attract a top manager until there are drastic changes higher up at the club. Until the club has a vision to be the best, until the club has a plan to do that, until the club start hiring the best people available to do that rather than in house appointments.

The idea the Conte would even entertain joining United in our current guise is almost laughable. Look at our last four appointments.

Moyes after Klopp, Pep and Conte said thanks but no thanks.

Followed up by LvG a manager who had declined so much that no top side would consider hiring him.

Jose Mourinho, who while no doubt he has been a top manager. There are questions around whether he still has it. He took the United job while on a low ebb after back to back firings from Real Madrid and Chelsea where the players practically revolted against him. The same happened at United and he has since found himself at Spurs (with a similar fate, and now at Roma (a team that finished 7th in Italy last season, with at least 4 teams clearly better than them) . He just doesn't attract the top clubs anymore.

Then Ole, a likable guy with great history at the club. He has done a surprisingly decent job considering his CV. But he has his clear limitations, which sadly it doesn't look like he will be able to grow beyond.

Our recruitment of managers mirrors our recruitment of players.

We approach the best, but are unable to convince them that we are a club worth signing for. We them end up taking the 4th, 5th or 6th choice. We then wonder why our club is battling around 4th-6th.

That is why I truly believe they when Ole gets sacked we are more likely to end up with Southgate rather than someone like Conte.

8.) 03 Jun 2021
03 Jun 2021 10:06:36
Daz,

I genuinely don’t think anybody other than people who are trying to belittle anyone who thinks Ole should stay ever mentions that he scored a goal in 99. I’m sure we are all grateful for that, even the people who want him out, I don’t think anybody is using that as a reason he should keep the job 22 years later, as much as some people bring it up every day.

9.) 03 Jun 2021
03 Jun 2021 11:58:24
Shappy you don't half talk some bollocks. Its laughable to think we can hire a manager like Conte so we should stick with Ole till the owners sell up is it? Who are you trying to convince, yourself or everybody else? Its a good job Everton didn't think like that when they hired Ancelotti.

10.) 03 Jun 2021
03 Jun 2021 12:17:40
Anyone saying our football under Ole is as boring or defensive as it was under LVG and Jose respectively really, really needs to go back and watch some matches from when they were in charge.

Granted, our football under Ole could be better, but while it sometimes lacks in quality, it doesn't lack for attacking intent, and I would argue it doesn't lack for excitement either (I think some people forget what the word "exciting" actually means. Comebacks are exciting, so are near death experiences. Exciting is probably not what some of our fans are looking for. )

11.) 03 Jun 2021
03 Jun 2021 12:35:24
Dark Knight, it's laughable to think a top manager would want to come to a club in as big a mess as we are in.

Sir Alex approached Pep, Klopp and Conte and none of them wanted it so Moyes got the job.

What do you think has changed in the past 8 years that would have made Conte sit up and go "actually I was wrong to turn down United, they are a club that matches my ambitions and has a great team of people working behind the scenes to support me".

As for Ancelotti at Everton, that just highlights that a top manager without the support of key people behind the scenes isn't able to elevate a club to the highest level.

I don't think we can hire a top manager because I don't think any are stupid enough to come to United while we are in our current state.

Much in the same way that we have been linked and even pursued top players only for them to either renew with their current club or move to another side.

It doesn't matter if we are talking about Bale, Fabregas, and Kroos, or whether we are talking about Pep, Klopp and Conte.

The top players/ managers aren't interested in playing for a side that puts spreadsheet success over sporting success.

Occasionally we might strike it lucky and get a Di Maria or a Jose Mourinho though the door, but they struggle and they don't last long.

We will sack Ole eventually, but I have absolutely no faith in our club to be able to bring in a top manager. They don't know how to attract them or support them.

It's just about learning from experience. I beat the drum to sack Moyes hoping for better. We got LvG and the most dire football of my life. I beat the drum for him to be sacked hoping for better. We got Jose, but he saw the club for what it was and didn't fully commit. The football was poor, we won a couple of cups (but not the ones any top side sets out to win) and he turned the atmosphere toxic. I beat the drum to sack him. We now have Ole. The football is poor (albeit the best since Sir Alex) . The atmosphere is a better, we have generally shipped out the right players and a few of the kids get a few more chances. Is it good enough? Of course not. But like I said I have learned that asking for a manager to be sacked hasn't really improved anything significantly if at all.

Nothing will change until the people welding that power make changes to how they run the club. So I see no point turning against a club legend and dirtying my hands. It won't improve anything, and anyone who thinks it will are either foolish or ignorant of what has been happening and continues to happen at our club.