14 Jun 2021 12:06:49
Bit off topic but does anyone think gambling should be barred from advertising on sports, specifically football?

A bit like tobacco in the 90s?

I don't gamble unless I'm at the races, but I find the advertising too much and it almost seems like preying on an addiction?

Fully appreciate the revenue it generates but all are based in off shore tax havens and more to the point, I think it's moral and social topic that is unsaid.

Not too mention the sky bet and sky relationship being a huge conflict of interest.

More than anything I wanted to check in on other people's veiws on this?

(Rather than preach)

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1.) 14 Jun 2021
14 Jun 2021 13:25:22
There is a reason there is a betting ship on most street corners.
Maybe one of the most destructive addictions and vices if it gets it off control.
Its a tough one utd road. I think its up to each and every individual to not get in too deep.
Education is what's missing.

2.) 14 Jun 2021
14 Jun 2021 13:27:54
The government is currently consulting on introducing legislation to ban advertising in sport, I imagine a lot of lobbying will be going on behind the scenes.

3.) 14 Jun 2021
14 Jun 2021 13:56:04
All adverts now contain information about responsible gambling and online accounts have limits and so many of the adverts tell you about how to set these as well. It is a tough one but the same as alcohol it is down to an individual person not to get in too deep. I think addicted gamblers would probably gamble whether there was advertising or not though.

4.) 14 Jun 2021
14 Jun 2021 17:13:05
It will boil down to do the lads who like a flutter a few pints at the pub and a game of footy make up a large proportion of our current government's voters. If so they will not find a need to legislate against this.

5.) 14 Jun 2021
14 Jun 2021 17:32:07
Same way fat kids still eat chocolate.

6.) 14 Jun 2021
14 Jun 2021 19:11:20
Ta all, appreciate the discussion.

The one thing I would add on reflection is the aspect of new customer acquisition and preventing that.

7.) 14 Jun 2021
14 Jun 2021 19:16:47
I’ve never understood gambling, I can see how it easily becomes an addiction. I have a friend who got himself in a right mess and despite him being banned from all bookies they were still happy to take his money. I think there is far too much advertising and the Sky Bet and Sky relationship is very odd.

8.) 14 Jun 2021
14 Jun 2021 19:19:59
Anyone saying its down to the individual is missing the point imo.

Marketing works! There's a reason companies have such huge marketing budgets.

I'm not saying gambling should be banned, but by allowing it to be advertised at football games, means clubs and associations endorse it, that's the point of associating your product with big brands, it at least implies endorsement.

Given that football is a family event, as opposed to advertising at say a nightclub which is an adult's event, means impressionable kids are having gambling shoved down their throats and being given the impression that their favourite clubs endorse it.

There is nothing positive about this scenario whatsoever.

I'd absolutely ban it.

9.) 15 Jun 2021
14 Jun 2021 23:47:03
I take your point red D .
Would you ban alcohol at all grounds too?
Its a tough one to know where to draw the line.

10.) 15 Jun 2021
15 Jun 2021 01:02:51
RedD,

Only a very small minority of people that gamble have gambling problems, for the majority it is a fun activity, I would class if as a hobby, I give myself an amount I can afford each month and gamble that, it’s something i enjoy and has never become a problem.

It is definitely an interesting one, to say the government won’t do anything about it when they have already cut the max stake on the machines and forced a large number of bookies to close is a little short sighted.

There are discussions all the time about what they will do, there are laws now about the amount of advertising that has to be taken up with responsible gambling information. Gambling will never be banned but they have certainly looked at how they can help people who get themselves in trouble. It is a vice like many others, if kept under control it is not a problem at all.

I have quite a vested interest in this so it is something I enjoy discussing and hearing how others feel.

11.) 15 Jun 2021
15 Jun 2021 09:31:40
I'd ban the advertising of alcohol, gambling, sweets and sugary drinks, cigarettes, e-cigs, at any family event or any child based entertainment, including kids TV shows.

If you want to know why, watch a documentary called "the century of the self", it's free on youtube, and should be required watching for everyone.

It shows how smart psychologists used the concept of war time propaganda and applied it to business, rebranded or as marketing, and gives some fantastic examples of how it works and the damage it has done.

Just watch the first 15 mins and look at the example of smoking. Cigarette companies realised that it was pretty much just men who smoked, and a smart psychologist said he could get women smoking and double their potential market.

He used debutants at some big American parade, ties the concept of smoking to an individuals freedom, and managed to get women to take up smoking over night.

How many deaths is that one trick responsible for?

It's all very well to say that people should be able to make choices, but that requires education, and we don't educate the masses enough to make informed choices, we educate them just enough to ensure they feel like they make choices but remain completely manipulatable.

Allowing children to be exposed to this is actually quite sick really.