04 Oct 2021 16:15:42
I suppose at least if a lot of people get their wish and Ole is sacked then there will be so many managers to choose from given Bayern, real Madrid, Barcelona, psg and Ajax all lost this weekend.

Ole might have work though getting that PE teacher job you all think he's just about qualified for given that Pochettino's PSG with Messi, neymar and mbappe failed to get a single shot on target in their defeat to the mighty Rennes of the famous french farmers league.

The way some of you speak about Ole, the disdain and sheer hatred ye have and yer wish for us to lose so he will get sacked is pathetic.

I don't believe ye can call yourself fans, maybe fair weather fans, maybe keyboard warriors alright but not fans. You'll say who do I think I am questioning your loyalty, I've heard ye say it before and I've left it cause who am I to question it, but in my opinion ye are not fans. Fans support their club no matter what. I hated mourinho but I still wanted him to get it right. I'm not a huge fan of pogba but still want him to succeed because it's good for the club. Yer just complainers

Tell ya what though, Fergie would have been gone long before he won any trophies if people with your opinions were listened to.
Inferring about what players think of Ole! ye haven't a clue, nor do I, but I see no players coming out and badmouthing or showing that there is any bad atmosphere like I did under our last manager. Any player I have heard has praised Ole for the difference he has made to the club, correct me if I am wrong.

Support your club, support your manager and your players.

In Ole I still trust, believe!

1.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 16:27:11
It’s only now we have winners in our team you might start hearing moans, that’s why you have not had anyone coming out the dressing room moaning about Ole up to yet, would you moan 250k per week Martial for instance, gets no abuse from Ole only praise, goes home puts his feet up and oh another game next week dear me!
Get to finals lose, does the manager moan and groan…. Oh no we played well just this or that was against us.
We play boring slow football week after week does the manager moan and groan Nope, so why would players who keep being told how great they played…but lost moan……… TBF Shaw never even come out and moaned when Jose was there, all that he done was become a better player.
You never hear players moan about the manager in situ, it’s only when there gone, so your going to hear quite some stories when Ole is gone.

2.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 16:46:29
Don't think anybody has said they don't support the team, however the manager when clearly out of his depth is losing the support of his own free will. Get off your high horse, some fans are blind to the dross we're being served up but most of us will call out the rubbish being served up by an inept manager.

What an absolute pile of crap you've just spouted. And damn right people will question your questioning of loyalty.

Not one fan I know hopes ole doesn't succeed. Nor do I know or any fan wishing we'll lose to get Ole sacked. Don't put words in people's mouths. We all want him to succeed but it has become clear to see that he will not.

3.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 16:52:10
Rosspique other fans could spin that the other way and say you are not a fan of the club if you accept what has been served up by ole not just this season since he took over. how about let's not alienate any fan for their opinion and what they want for the club that differs from your views and what you want.

Also some fans supports clubs, some fans support players and some support managers and some support all of them, me personally I support the club and the players I want the best managers to make the players better but ultimately as long as the manager is good/ competent, then i couldn't care less who it was.

I think ole has taken this team as far as he can has he been successful, I think off the field yes on the field no, no need to explain why we all have eyes.

4.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 16:53:06
Jackamus, don't mistake how Ole is and what he says to the press with what he says and does behind closed doors.

I've read and watched interviews with the players where they say the manager shouts at them and has a go at them when needed.

Before Jesse's loan to West Ham he shouted at him from the sidelines "do that one more time and you're off".

Yes Ole is very happy, polite and jovial with the press. As he should be. Poor managers wash their laundry in public no one else.

I've supported Ole up until now, but it is becoming clear that he now has a squad more capable than he is. He doesn't seem to be able to get them playing to their ability. So it's probably time for a change.

That said, there is no need to be nasty, personal or disrespectful towards Ole. All it does is show how little class you have, nothing else.

Ole came in, did his best, changed the atmosphere, moved on players who weren't good enough, got many playing well, brought in good quality players, was able to attract the world class players that some said would never want to come in and work with him, he has created our best squad since 2012/ 13, maybe a squad better than that side, he has helped guide Greenwood when he threatened to go off the rails due to a personal trauma, helped him through his England disgrace, and now he is one of our best players.

Ole has done a lot of good things and helped the club a lot. That said I think he has gone as far as he can and we are starting to stagnate. Time for a change. But no need to show yourself up.

5.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 16:55:13
What about Ole do you trust. I trust that he has peaked with us and should let someone who actually can, take us to the next level.

6.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 17:06:26
Shappy why am I showing myself up, I know exactly how Ole is as a person and don’t need to do that with video’s or you tube, but that’s another story and of no relevance. I confused why you say showing myself up though, what because I don’t agree with you, or I don’t think Ole is up to the job….
You are sadly mistaken if you think the players he signed (or signed in his tenure) only come because of Ole, they would have come no matter who was manager, you really don’t seem to grasp the mindset of a professional footballer.
I don’t think that Ole can be solely responsible for Greenwood coming good at all, that stupid statement because no one knows if say under Jose he would have been even better then he is now and for everyone you find I can find another that’s gone backwards under Ole, that might have progressed under another, so your the one showing yourself up now.

7.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 17:15:12
Shappy, what's it like up on that big high horse of yours?

You paint your own picture of Ole with no inside knowledge of any of the goings on inside Man United. All guesswork from you, speaking like you have inside knowledge of things. Having a go at others for their opinions whilst declaring how much you know. Where the truth is, you know the same of the rest of us, nothing.

8.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 18:07:10
Jackamus, unless you know Ole personally, have spent time with him or been managed by him then you know as little as the rest of us.

I'm basing how he is with players from what the players themselves say. That is probably a better measure than guess than just watching a few press officer controlled interviews.

You show yourself up when you bad mouth someone. Simple as that. If you can't understand that then there's very little point trying to explain it.

I've known many professional footballers, and am aware that the manager of a club isn't the sole reason for moving to a club. But for most it's a part of the consideration when an offer is made.

I also never said Ole is solely responsible for Greenwood, or that another manager couldn't of handled it as well or even better. Just that it is something that has been achieved by Ole.

9.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 18:32:11
So shappy we shouldn't believe what the manager says to the press but we should believe what the players say. My oh my your Double standards get better by the day. I'm in i'm out its black iss white, don't listen do listen, contradict don't contradict. Its just more contradictions.

10.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 18:51:43
True Angel, but I don't demean myself by being nasty with my guess work.

11.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 18:59:18
Rosspique, the moment you bring up other teams and their managers into the equation while also bringing up Sir Alex into the mix (who had achieved far more than OGS before signing for United) it clearly shows you got nothing else to defend Ole with.

As far as being fans - anyone supporting the club is a fan. Just because someone is not supporting a incompetent manager or player does not make them a non fan.

"Fergie would have been gone long before he won any trophies if people with your opinions were listened to" dont' know about that but tell you what, if Ronaldo was starting out as a young player under Ole he would never make it at United.

Players not complaining or moaning, it's probably because they see Ole more as a friend than a manager and everyone has got into their comfort zone so much so that they are loving at.

But with highly decorated players like Ronaldo and Varane now in the team things could take a turn for the worst very soon.

You can be a fan but not a blind follower.

12.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 19:23:34
Ken, where did I say don't believe what the manager says in a press conference.

Just don't believe he is as one dimensional as he is in his press conferences.

You're not a fool, you know as well as I that no manager who has control of his employees or respect for his company would air the businesses dirty laundry in public.

If you came out and said John from accounting is a mug and ballsed up the quarterly figures publicly, you'd expect to be dragged into your superiors office and face some sort of disciplinary action.

Just because Ole doesn't come out and throw his players under the bus or tell the world's media what one of his players weaknesses are or what they should be doing better that doesn't mean he isn't having these conversations with the players themselves.

Of course listen to what both the players and the manager have to say to the press, but don't be a dope and believe you are getting the whole story.

13.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 19:30:24
Who's being nasty shappy?

If you're suggesting I am, well then we both have a very different definition of the word nasty.

14.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 19:44:50
Shappy you have no idea. If John ballsed up the figures and I said that publicly I would have no dressing down from my superiors. Your not very well learned on employment law at all. Don't be making stuff up again or so talking about stuff you have no clue about and just guess.

15.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 20:09:40
Ken, stop being nasty.

16.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 20:22:23
Shappy where have I bad mouthed him, saying he is not up to the job or not fit for purpose for the post is not bad mouthing!

What did I say exactly that’s bad mouthing him?

Don’t have the hump so much, because you are now reversing like a tanker in the Suez Canal because you have realised all this time you have been defending Ole you now know was wrong, that’s typical trying to deflect… you sound like Ole blaming everything but his inadequacy?

Waiting for you to tell me where I bad mouthed Ole?

17.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 20:28:07
Shappy your trying to deflect, all because you now backtracking and don’t support Ole no more, don’t start taking it out on people being nasty.

In fact your the one getting very nasty to everyone it’s quite embarrassing your acting that way and then have audacity to say people should not be nasty

And if John in accounts had ballsed up the accounts and he did do it, it’s fact so no problem with stating facts and your superiors could not discipline you for it.

And by the way I do and very well thanks, don’t mean to say I have to think he good in the job.

18.) 04 Oct 2021
04 Oct 2021 20:30:22
So calling out poor performance is being nasty now? Sounding like the snowflake generation.

19.) 05 Oct 2021
05 Oct 2021 06:12:37
I agree, we should sack John from accounting.

20.) 05 Oct 2021
05 Oct 2021 07:45:51
I'm with you grim??.

21.) 05 Oct 2021
05 Oct 2021 17:56:59
Jesus how did that turn into a shappy bashing event.
Ah the post done the job I wanted it to anyways. Good to know.