05 Oct 2021 13:11:05
lets be honest its only a matter of time before ole goes not if. and tbh he only has himself to blame,

yes he has stop the rot and there is now a more positive feel around the club but he doesn't seem to have learnt from previous mistakes

we now have a squad capable of winning trophies.

question is who do you get in that matches the values of this once great club?

we cannot simply be happy with top 4.

we should have got poch in when we had a chance.

but there inst really anyone out there that could be brought in, people seem to sprout out conte and zidane but conte is jose in an alternate universe, he stinks and i wouldn't want him anywhere near the club.

is this a case of better the devil you know?

thing with OLE is when he is under extreme pressure he always seems to deliver and what better time than the run we have coming up?

1.) 05 Oct 2021
05 Oct 2021 13:38:09
No this is exactly when it’s not best with the Devil you know.

2.) 05 Oct 2021
05 Oct 2021 13:57:50
Bolger if Ole comes out of this run of games and we are still within touching distance then he will have earned the right to see the season out imo (can't wait to be told off for this opinion lol) .

Personally looking around the world of management at the minute I don't see a clear answer as I think Klopp closely followed by Pep are the best in the world and by a stretch. I like the look of Ten Haag and what he is doing at Ajax, but Ajax are a very well run club.

I agree on Conte, I would say Zidane could do a good job, but it is hard to know as he had a super side at Madrid, and they have gone backwards, but that could be because he has gone?

3.) 05 Oct 2021
05 Oct 2021 13:55:36
It could happen as it did last year and previous, where in the big games where we are underdogs we pull out a result. You have to feel though that pep, klopp etc will have worked out what we do and will have a different approach. i. e. let us have the ball more so we don’t sit in as much then wait for the inevitable mistake and punish us. We sit back against the big teams and counter, if that’s not an option then we are in trouble.

4.) 05 Oct 2021
05 Oct 2021 14:32:39
Caolan, I'm not sold on Zidane, can he get a group of players playing better than the sum of its parts or was he just lucky to have a great team that played to its ability and not beyond it?

Clearly since Real Madrid lost its star power and with many of their current stars aging and declining Zidane has been unable to stop the rot and the side has declined to a point where he walked out. He went back after not getting any other jobs offers a year later, did well for a little bit then walked out again.

I'm not sure a manager who has twice walked out of job at the only club that seems willing to hire him fills me with confidence that he has what it takes to manage Manchester United. Do we really need a quitter when things get tough?

Conte I think would probably win a cup in his first year then leave in his second season. That's if he'd take the job at all, he's very temperamental and walks the moment he doesn't feel completely backed.

5.) 05 Oct 2021
05 Oct 2021 15:04:45
Agree Shappy, Conte will be Jose 2.0, Zidane and Ralf are unknowns managing in the Premier League, Ten Haag apparently off to Barca. My personal choice is Lucien Favre, but he will be as much of a risk.
As there is no obvious replacement, I can see why the club will stick with Ole for the foreseeable.

6.) 05 Oct 2021
05 Oct 2021 15:18:14
Firstly Conte not only won at Chelsea, what about last year, or was they full of superstars when he arrived!

Secondly I doubt ZZ is a quitter, perhaps on the 2nd occasion because the position they were in financially he knew he was not getting the backing or going to get it and needed a full rebuild, as you can see from Carlo’s start.

First time maybe after winning so much he was just shattered and needed a break, I don’t know but to call him a quitter is a little derogatory Shappy and you have audacity to say people abuse Ole…… you not just done the same to ZZ.

7.) 05 Oct 2021
05 Oct 2021 15:33:30
It’s a gamble whoever is chosen or accepts, don’t matter if best coach in the world or the worst, but you have to take the gamble because going nowhere at moment, so what’s the downside ok we drop out top 4 which is good possibility anyway, and you all moan top 4 should not be the goal anyway and I agree, for me it’s win or nothing, so I don’t care if it’s 2nd or 5th you not won so end of!

I’m not one of the “it’s the taking part that matters brigade” winning is what it’s about if it can be won in style and entertaining along the way that’s the holy grail.

8.) 05 Oct 2021
05 Oct 2021 17:08:47
Jackamus did I miss something or did Zidane not quit the Real Madrid managers job TWICE. The only management job he has had in top level football.

I don't think calling someone who has quit every job they have had in a particular field a quitter is derogatory.

Would you rather I called him a resigner?

I think Conte is a good manager. Clearly better than Ole. That said he signed Sensi, Barella, Hakimi, Eriksen and Lukaku in order to make Inter champions. He then left when he was told the club would need to balance the books and he couldn't sign more players and even that a couple would need to be sold to keep the club a float.

He wasn't prepared to stay and help the club's all he cares about is winning titles himself. So he left. He is very much a Jose 2.0 in that regard.

Now I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that attitude or mentality.

I just don't feel it would work well with our club. Based particularly on how things worked out with Jose.

That's why I said I think we would win something with him in his first season. The football would be dogged, rugged, and defensive. But it would be effective. The issue will come in his second or maybe third season when he wants to sign a couple of world class players to push the club to the next level and instead the club decide they are happy enough challenging but don't want to go the extra mile to try and bring the biggest honours home.

Maybe he will want Maguire but will get Fred instead. Oh wait that already happened.

Maybe he'll want Kroos, Fabregas and Bale but get Fellaini and Mata instead. Oh wait that also happened.

Either way at some point the club's ultimate lack of football knowledge and ambition will clash with his and he'll walk out or have a meltdown forcing the club to sack him.

If you want to watch defensive football for a couple of years in exchange for an FA cup followed by a meltdown and the club being dragged through the mud and for us to be back looking for another manager again. Then Conte is your man. But he's not for me. If he comes in I'll support him like I have every manager, but I won't be shocked when it all ends badly.

9.) 05 Oct 2021
05 Oct 2021 17:34:14
I never said conte was my man I already said his football would not be great what I was pointing out is you said he only does something because he walked into a good team……
Ole spent more the Conte and he nowhere near winning anything.

Like I said ZZ left first time because like he said he was exhausted, Per done it before remember…. 2nd time he left may have been because he knew ageing players needed replacing but no cash, it happens does not make him a quitter.

You think in your own head your the Wikipedia of all clubs throughout the world well that’s fine but it’s only in your own head and don’t try so hard to pass your trivia of as facts because it’s not, I know why you do it, and it may work for some of the sheep!

{Ed025's Note - calm down jack you are taking things too personally mate, its a banter forum which is all about opinions...take a chill pill..

10.) 05 Oct 2021
05 Oct 2021 22:19:25
Jack, you're the one speculating about why ZZ left. I merely said he has quit the job the job twice.

Does it make a difference why he quit? Exhausted/ couldn't handle it, or because he saw the writing on the wall?

He walked out on a club he supposedly cares about twice. Twice he left them in the lurch rather than try and help make things better.

Whether he didn't think he was good enough to fix things or because he didn't have the stomach to try is just speculation.

In the end it amounts to the same thing, he leaves when things get tricky. Hardly a great trait for a supposed leader.

11.) 06 Oct 2021
05 Oct 2021 22:24:53
Grim, I think Ralf Rangnick would be fine. He's never managed in the EPL but has huge experience and is a very good top class manager. I also think he is one of the few with the relevant experience above the manager to be able to cope with how our club is run.

Erik Ten Hag is a very good manager ready for that next step, while also having some experience of a sporting director role. Which I feel would stand him in good stead. If he has enough about him he'd steer well clear of Barcelona at the moment. The club is an absolute mess, the squad, the academy, the finances, everything. They may even have to sell the club to a sugar daddy to turn things around. I think they were really banking on the ESL. Poor investment and paying Messi a 1m per week to cling to his coattails has absolutely destroyed them.

It's actually very sad, a fan owned iconic club with great history could need to sell out to keep itself a float. I'm not sure if it's bravery or stupidity from whoever take the managers job there next.