16 Oct 2021 17:13:40
Wow ok if carlsberg did time machines. I'm sorry Ole even I can't defend this. Ronaldo signing and having to play to suit him has killed you.
Neville and scholes said it the other night, there are not enough ji sung parks or Darren fletchers. Out of the front 6 today only Bruno is a grafter/ workhorse. The best individuals don't make the best teams.
Oles damned if he does and damned if he doesn't in a way with Ronaldo. He has to start him and can't take him off yet he doesn't press or offer anything to the team in a defensive capacity and is not the Ronaldo of old that can take on and race past players.
I said I'd support the manager till the end and I will, as I will every manager, yet Ole my friend, the end looks nigh.
Ronaldo had to be signed, he could not go to city but I think Ole signed his own death warrant when he signed.
To the Ole out brigade, sorry, it looks like you were right which makes me sad cause I desperately wanted Ole to succeed because it rely felt for the last 2 years that we were building something. I feel we've gone backwards this season and that's just not acceptable.
I would have judged Ole at the end of this season but it looks like we can no longer afford to wait.

On another note I have to say I've been so disappointed in Sancho since he came in, when compared to a young Ronaldo, Jadon very rarely takes on a man and always looks for the simple option, Ronaldo at 18, took on everyone all the time. Looks like we've signed 2 half Ronaldos. I know he's young and acclimatising to a league he's never played in but I've seen very very little to excite me thus far.

We cannot play Ronaldo, Bruno, Sancho, pogba and mason in the same team unfortunately, there's no graft there and we can't rely on Matic to cover for them all thus McFred.

1.) 16 Oct 2021
16 Oct 2021 17:25:47
Reading back on my post, looks like I'm blaming Ronaldo for Oles deficiencies, I do see the issues with in game management and patterns of play and maybe now even man management.

I do think that Ronaldo forces us to play a particular way though and it's this that has seen us regress.

But as I said he had to be signed.

2.) 16 Oct 2021
16 Oct 2021 17:28:19
Sancho just implementing the coaches tactics. Nothing to do with acclimating. He’s familiar with many of the squad. Lived in Manchester. Nothing else but Ole ruining another signing.

3.) 16 Oct 2021
16 Oct 2021 17:30:00
Fair play Rossi mate. I had never had problem with people accepting they were wrong.

4.) 16 Oct 2021
16 Oct 2021 17:38:13
The problem is all those players you listed
drift all over the pitch, we get exposed when we lose the ball with huge gaps. There is no structure to our shape sometimes I’m not sure what our formation is.
I’ve always defended Ole and yea he’s brought some stability back but we keep relying on individual moments rather than a team performance.

5.) 16 Oct 2021
16 Oct 2021 17:48:17
Couldn't disagree more that there is no graft in Bruno Fernandes. He demands from his team mates and you often see him as last man back trying to defend.

However, the rest I mostly agree with. Ronaldo was a luxury signing but was never one we should turn down, Sancho signed only to never play him on the right seems very strange (he will be better under a new manager), Greenwood is excellent but greedy at times and is still young and Pogba is what he is.

As you said in your 2nd post, Ole has issues, many of them. While he is in charge we will see players out of form or looking lost because they are simply carrying out the instructions of a coach who is well out of his depth in his role both in game and on the training pitch by the looks of it and who is mismatched against most coaches he is opposing.

Atalanta are a good side and we are in for a difficult evening in midweek, we then have Liverpool who look like they will beat us by a few. It's likely not going to be am enjoyable few weeks.

6.) 16 Oct 2021
16 Oct 2021 17:49:32
Mistakes happen in games, like the total lapse with Maguire for their opening goal. But the way we play is simply down to the non existent tactics and coaching. Ronaldo's signing has nothing to do with how we play. Because we've been playing the same way for the past 2 years. If we had a coach who knew what he was doing, he would have found a way to solve this conundrum. Unfortunately Ole just ain't that guy and will never be that guy.

7.) 16 Oct 2021
16 Oct 2021 17:51:52
Play to ronaldos strenths its simple and he will bamg in goals

But we don't have a manaher or coaches that know how to set a team up.

8.) 16 Oct 2021
16 Oct 2021 18:28:14
Ross, glad you've seen the defences in Solskjaer, great player, rubbish manager. However, I disagree fully on Ronaldo, as love_United correctly says, we've been playing like this for two years.
We are lucky to have Ronaldo at our club, he scores goals, we've not signed him to track back
But the manager does not play pressing football and we're seeing the results of that, we concede possession easily and we don't work hard high up the field to reclaim it. He plays counter attacking tactics straight out of the 80's.
And his coaches are as useless as he is. Great players don't automatically become great managers, otherwise, Keane, Robson, Hughes etc would have succeeded, but they didn't.
The club need to move away from the old brigade, get a young coach in like Ten Haag, Marco Rose in and let them define a modern pattern of play and stick to it. Hans Flick would have been the best choice, but he's not an option now.

9.) 16 Oct 2021
16 Oct 2021 18:29:21
Rosspique. I disagree that Ronaldo had to be signed. United should have learnt that lesson from the Alexi Sanchez debacle. The only players that need to be signed are the ones that fit into the strategic plan. Unfortunately, at United, there is no strategic plan, and there really hasn't been since before SAF retired.

Hard to see us pulling ourselves out of the quagmaguire any time soon.

10.) 16 Oct 2021
16 Oct 2021 18:59:52
shawthing, the players are the least of the problem right now.

It's crystal clear Ole and his coaching staff are the main issue.