15 Nov 2021 22:39:08
I hope to God we don't get ZZ, as that would mean Pogba would probably stay. No thanks. The only thing keeping Ole in a job for now is find a replacement.


1.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 08:27:12
I don't think Zidane wants to come here at all. Its the PSG or France job he is after. If he comes here for the money, it won't last very long.

I am more inclined to getting Rodgers or Ten Hag, Rodgers being the more realistic option. I understand Shappy's point on his teams being defensively suspect but of you can outscore them, i wouldn't care much. He almost won the league with that Liverpool team but for that slippery G moment so i don't think they would have shipped that many.


2.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 08:51:08
UA. All this Liverpool talk about Rodgers is nonsense when you look at law Busby and plenty of others.
The thought of Rodgers winning her age failing at Liverpool would be even better.


3.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 10:45:46
Not convinced by Rodgers, don’t think Tris is a big fan and he will have a better view than most of us. Yes he was successful in Scotland but it was a 1 team league at the time, he hasn’t won anything in England and Leicester flatter to deceive. Not for me.

Tris, what’s your view?

{Ed001's Note - wouldn't touch him with a bargepole, nice bloke, good coach but terrible manager. Provides no discipline to the team, can't organise a defence and is tactically lacking.}


4.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 11:30:11
I'd have him in a heartbeat. No2 choice for me.


5.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 11:37:46
AJH, fa cup?


6.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 11:42:36
Who's your first choice Ken?


7.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 11:58:02
Feels like a side step to me. In a couple of years we'll be back in the same position.


8.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 12:21:34
Says it all about how far the club has fallen that people are seriously happy at the prospect of bringing in a guy who managed Liverpool not that long ago.

And you can talk all you like about Busby but that was a completely differen era when the rivalry between the clubs was nothing like it has been in recent decades.


9.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 12:43:34
Not convinced with ZZ or Brenda and I think Ten Hag would be a another long term gamble.

Would anyone go for Rafa?


10.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 12:53:58
Shappy close call between Rodgers and poch for me.
Zz no 3 if he is up for a temp role.


11.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 12:55:01
Bilko what's that for to do with anything the fact he was Liverpool manager?


12.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 13:20:35
Rodgers is about nowhere near the top of my list but he's clearly an enormous upgrade on Ole who has all the defenciencies Rodgers does but none of the positives. Rodgers seems to be a pretty good coach and his teams can play some good football at times at least.

Ten Hag would be 1st choice for me with Poch 2nd just ahead of Potter in 3rd.


13.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 13:32:53
people can slate Rodgers but are happy with ole. strange

ten hag
poch
rodgers

in any order. all 3 are good managers.

anyone and his dog is better than ole so at this point i would take anyone.


14.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 14:01:24
Ten Haag
Lucien Favre
Marcelo Gallardo

In that order.


15.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 14:15:34
No one is leaving their job mid-season (unless it's to escape the thrills of the Scottish Prem, of course. ) .
If things go south for Ole in the so-called week from hell starting with Watford and the club sack him, it looks like Rangnick, Zidane, Blanc or Carrick as caretaker imo.
Doesn't feel like Zidane will be interested in something such short-term. As for Rangnick, I don't know a great deal. It seems like he's the go-to name when high-profile caretaker roles come up, but one would question why he doesn't seem to be in the running for the better jobs full-time. Is he a higher profile version of Big Sam, dragged in under dire circumstances then cast aside when something better comes along?
I imagine the board are sweating it that Ole turns things around as no-one stands out. Then again I'm sure a certain Ranieri didn't exactly set pulses alight when he was named Leicester boss.


16.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 14:23:23
Rodgers, Poch, Luis Enrique, Ten Hag, Zidane.
Any of them are an upgrade on Ole.


17.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 14:38:36
Ignore Ed001’s warning at your peril. With all due respect what do we really know about Rodgers. I presume nobody watched his Celtic team on a regular basis and we’ve probably all seen highlights of his Leicester side on a few occasions but nothing else. From what I’ve seen his sides play good football but I’d worry about them defensively. He’s thrown away commanding positions for top 4 in consecutive seasons. I think his record in Europe is poor if I’m not mistaken and whilst most people will argue he’s a better coach then Ole is he really the man that can lead Utd back to the top? I’m not convinced one bit.

I take Ed001 as an absolute authority when it comes to Rodgers. He probably watched every single minute of every single game when he was in charge of Liverpool. This is an opinion we should respect and ignore at our peril.

Times are desperate but cool heads should prevail.


18.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 14:52:49
If I could take any manager it would be Hansi Flick, great manager, won things with Bayern playing very good entertaining football, and proven he can handle the big egos as well as develop young players.

Ticks every box, the problem is he has just taken the Germany national job so there is absolutely no chance of getting him. But one to keep a close eye on for 2-4 years time if we need a new manager around then.

Of those that are realistic EtH is top of my list, proven winner, plays great football, great at developing players, plus he has made a former great club relevant again (a feat he'd need to replicate if he took the United job) .

After that it's a coin toss between Pochettino and Rodgers. I think Pochettino plays the more tactically robust football, but Rodgers has actually won things.

Beyond those names I really like Potter and what he is doing. Maybe he needs to manage at a bigger club than Brighton (no disrespect to them) to show he can scale up his ideas with a bigger budget and more pressure before taking a job the size of United. Yet in truth if you're good enough you don't need to take those middle steps. He has done it in the toughest league in the world effectively with one hand tied behind his back managing a side as small as Brighton.

So dream manager Hansi Flick.
With EtH, Pochettino, Rodgers and Potter in that order. Although Potter I think could prove to be a better manager long term than Pochettino and Rodgers.

This is difficult actually, the more I think about it the more tempted I am to slip Potter in ahead of Pochettino and Rodgers.

I think I've done it, I've talked myself round. Really what have Pochettino and Rodgers really done more than Potter to justify putting them ahead of the more talented manager. Not enough for me.

1. Hansi Flick
2. Erik Ten Hag
3. Graham Potter
4. Pochettino
5. Rodgers.

Locked in ?.


19.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 14:52:49
If I could take any manager it would be Hansi Flick, great manager, won things with Bayern playing very good entertaining football, and proven he can handle the big egos as well as develop young players.

Ticks every box, the problem is he has just taken the Germany national job so there is absolutely no chance of getting him. But one to keep a close eye on for 2-4 years time if we need a new manager around then.

Of those that are realistic EtH is top of my list, proven winner, plays great football, great at developing players, plus he has made a former great club relevant again (a feat he'd need to replicate if he took the United job) .

After that it's a coin toss between Pochettino and Rodgers. I think Pochettino plays the more tactically robust football, but Rodgers has actually won things.

Beyond those names I really like Potter and what he is doing. Maybe he needs to manage at a bigger club than Brighton (no disrespect to them) to show he can scale up his ideas with a bigger budget and more pressure before taking a job the size of United. Yet in truth if you're good enough you don't need to take those middle steps. He has done it in the toughest league in the world effectively with one hand tied behind his back managing a side as small as Brighton.

So dream manager Hansi Flick.
With EtH, Pochettino, Rodgers and Potter in that order. Although Potter I think could prove to be a better manager long term than Pochettino and Rodgers.

This is difficult actually, the more I think about it the more tempted I am to slip Potter in ahead of Pochettino and Rodgers.

I think I've done it, I've talked myself round. Really what have Pochettino and Rodgers really done more than Potter to justify putting them ahead of the more talented manager. Not enough for me.

1. Hansi Flick
2. Erik Ten Hag
3. Graham Potter
4. Pochettino
5. Rodgers.

Locked in ?.


20.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 15:32:03
The thing is guys- we don't get to a) choose or B0 if and when it will happen. Rodgers, zz Eth are all potentential candidates and When/ if a vacancy arrives if one is chosen it will not suit all. I (stand corrected if wrong) think redwhiskey mentions it further down the page, that it is the performances we want to see as well as winning trophies which most will agree with, but a couple of names to chuck in the proverbial ring: Simeone and Potter? wouldn't be upset with either although Simeone has more experience in dealing with bigger "names" I reckon potter could do a good job for longer. Think we"ll find out soon enough after Cl?


21.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 15:44:40
If it’s Rodgers or stick with Ole I’d touch him with all your barge poles.

I don’t care that he managed Liverpool, I don’t know why anybody would or why it means we have fallen so far to suggest it. If Klopp became available I’d take him as well, and Pep, or Mancini, couldn’t care less where they managed before. Our last manager won the league with Chelsea and was our biggest rival for years. If he does a great job I couldn’t care less what he was previously.


22.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 16:17:34
Funky, I wouldn't want Simeone. His style is horrible to watch. Potter is worth a shout though.

GDS, I agree. Also I think Mancini wouldn't be an awful option either if available. Very good manager.


23.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 16:41:57
GDS2 - The main difference is Rodgers failed at Liverpool! You can’t compare him to Pep, Klopp or Mancini. They are all proven winners at the very highest level.

You personally don’t mind the Liverpool connection and I understand that but thousands of other Utd supporters do. Good luck changing their mind. Rodgers appointment would immediately divide the fan base and at the first sign of trouble he’d be quickly labelled the failed Liverpool manager.

In essence we would be appointing someone that didn’t win a trophy in three years at Liverpool and Ole has finished above twice in the last two seasons. Some like to call Ole the Wally, a fraud and the PE teacher yet we applaud Leicester’s recruitment and make excuses when they don’t make top 4. Despite our disastrous start we are still three points above them in the league and some are desperate to appoint their manager.

Our situation is dire. Ole is clearly not good enough but I don’t buy into the desperation of “anyone but Ole” nor do I trust the Club to make the right decisions. This is a very difficult period.

There is a lack of obvious candidates but I’m still not convinced it would be wise to take a risk on the failed Liverpool manager. Of course football is all about opinions and as always time will be the best judge.

Sometime tells me we might have to suffer a lot longer yet!


24.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 17:16:48
thats the situation though shappy- everyone has a preference so there's never a right or wrong just maybe a a better or worse- agree with simeone but to be fair it would be tighter in defence . Said it countless times that i never want to see us lose but it may be the situation that nudges the powers that be.


25.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 17:42:34
DLIB,

Fair enough mate, I’ve always like LMS Rodgers and think he would be a huge upgrade. He won the FA cup last season with Leicester so not like he’s always failed. I’m not sure Leicester are expected to get top 4 every year. As you say it’s all about opinions, I can’t get my head around not wanting someone who was Liverpool manager and I don’t think anyone I know cares either, but maybe half the fan base do.


26.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 17:58:11
GDS2 - I’m certainly not saying people that want Rodgers are wrong; I’m just not convinced that’s all. I always think it’s prudent to listen to people like Ed001 who will have watched Rodgers a lot more than any of us.

If he’s appointed I’ll back him like any Utd manager and hope he does well pal.


27.) 16 Nov 2021
16 Nov 2021 19:41:34
DLIB, I agree that if Rodgers were hired and had a bad run then the whole "failed Liverpool manager" lines will come out.

But in truth I think that would be the same for whatever manager takes over. Our fan base seems to have very little patience left and are quick to turn on the manager, the players and even eachother.

If it's Poch and he has a bad run it'll be "what has he ever won".

If it's EtH on a bad run it'll be "only proven in a farmers league".

If it's Zidane it'd be "Could only hack it with a peak Ronaldo".

There will always be a stick to beat the manager if the fans are unhappy. Over the past few years fans have even found sticks to beat the manager when the team isn't playing. Finding old snippets or quotes to use to try and push an agenda against the manager.

If the only reason to not hire Rodgers is because some fans will use his past against him if we have a bad run then we might as well not hire any manager and just wrap up the club.

Personally I think Rodgers has a few tactical flaws that could be an issue with our club which is why I'd have h further down the list of options. But still very much a name on the table for me, there are just others I think are slightly better suited.