02 Mar 2022 10:51:04
I really don’t think Pochettino is the right manager for us. All of the Spurs fans I know believe he has no plan B and makes really poor decisions with subs and tactics in key games. Also given that he’s essentially playing FIFA with that PSG team he hasn’t exactly done anything special, I mean he lost the league to Lille. I just don’t get the hype for a manager who’s won hardly anything.

I personally like Rúben Amorim, the guy had caused a seismic shift in Portuguese football. However if RR feels the EtH is the coach that best fits with his vision then the club should go that route.

1.) 02 Mar 2022
02 Mar 2022 11:59:06
Has been spurs most successful manager for 20 years got then to 1st cl final ever.
I wouldn't mind spurs fans they are always moaning. Bit like our own.
Your spurs friends are no doubt all highly qualified and are speaking from a position of great expertise. Having managed professional sorts teams.
RR is an interim manager who will provide consultancy.
Why do you think eth is is preferred choice? What makes you think that? The sun? The mirror the click bait?
The fact is you have no idea who RR's preference would be.
If his preference and recomendation is poch, do you then want RR ignored because of what your mates from Spurs told you? Do the club stop listening to RR if he thinks poch is a good option?
You have no idea absolutely none of whom RR wants only rumour and conjecture to go on.

2.) 02 Mar 2022
02 Mar 2022 12:39:48
Let’s be honest, nobody is that successful at Spurs. Being Spursy and failure is part of her job description.

I think any Tottenham fan who wouldn’t want Poch back in a heartbeat is totally deluded.

I’m becoming more and more convinced Ralf will stay on another year.

3.) 02 Mar 2022
02 Mar 2022 13:18:26
Eric, depending on how the next month goes I expect it will be sign Pochettino or stick with Ralf for another season then look at someone like Ruben Amorim or even Potter once the team has been sorted out a little and hopefully a better structure is in place to support the manager.

4.) 02 Mar 2022
02 Mar 2022 13:59:51
Potter is not now and it's highly unlikely he ever will be under consideration.

5.) 02 Mar 2022
02 Mar 2022 14:28:05
Probably not Ken. I just mean it will be possibly a younger up and coming manager in 18 months time.

If we don't sign Pochettino this summer for whatever reason.

Then EtH apparently isn't currently under consideration. But he'll have plenty of other options.

What top managers might be available in 18 months time that would suit the club?

I think if they don't get Pochettino they will stick with Ralf (as long as he doesn't tank in March) then look to get a young up and coming manager like Ruben Amorim. Maybe at that time if Potter has continued to do well with Brighton he might be considered. But it's more that type of manager I mean than those specific names.

6.) 02 Mar 2022
02 Mar 2022 16:16:54
I get you shappy but poch will be appointed I'd guess.

7.) 02 Mar 2022
02 Mar 2022 17:03:11
Ken, the only reason it won't be Pochettino is if he gets a job offer from elsewhere that he would rather take such as the Real Madrid job if it becomes available.

On one hand if Real Madrid can win the second leg and go through then maybe PSG will make a move to sack him and Real Madrid might be more inclined to stick with Ancelotti.

However, on the other hand it would just be something for all the fans who don't want Pochettino to use as a reason for not wanting him. Especially if he doesn't see out the season with PSG and win the league with them.

Yet if it's going to be Pochettino as our next manager regardless there is definitely a benefit to be had in being able to get him on board sooner and start the planning for next season with his input.

8.) 02 Mar 2022
02 Mar 2022 19:20:03
Viva. People run with the hares then chase with the hounds. Contradicting themselves with a load of emotional claptrap.
It's an emotional game for sure but so much expertise on here from plumbers to bankers and students that have never kicked a ball coached or been involved in a professional outfit. There is a reason they are not football players or managers It's because they are not qualified and don't have a clue what they are talking about.
I see folk talking about ownership and finances jumping to frankly ludicrous assumptions and quoting the sun or the daily mirror they have no idea what they are talking about and mostly coming from a position of complete ignorance. No wonder ed002 won't get into finances.

9.) 02 Mar 2022
02 Mar 2022 19:32:14
Jeez the Potter nonsense is back. I assume as he’s a young and upcoming English manager. He’s doing ok at a club with no expectations, and I susoect he might even follow Southgate when that time comes. But I hope the only time he is at OT is as a visiting rival manager.

10.) 02 Mar 2022
02 Mar 2022 21:43:15
Potter is very good coach, one I fully expect will be a top one for years to come. For me he has England coach written all over him, in fact, he would be perfect for them right now.

But he needs to take the next step, to show he can compete, possibly win a trophy before he will be considered for a top job. I'm sure he will do it though.

11.) 02 Mar 2022
02 Mar 2022 22:00:40
To be fair Angel, Southgate won sweet FA but was only a penalty away from winning the Euros.

12.) 02 Mar 2022
02 Mar 2022 22:35:11
Southgate is stealing a living with england, a half decent manager would have won the euros with england.

13.) 03 Mar 2022
03 Mar 2022 07:15:16
Rewz, I totally agree. I think Poch is a good manager but not a very good manager. His record is OK at best. He got a very good Spurs side to the final of CL and that was the highlight of his career and he lost the match easily. His methods are tried but have not been successful. Also, worryingly, he has not handled the big egos at PSG very well, and United have plenty of them.
His style of football does not fit RR philosophy and does not win trophies.
Agreed on Amorim, Sporting have no financial clout, yet he's got them playing excellent football. They were demolished by a City side that were very good on the night though.
Ten Hag will be my choice, he plays the high press, he has got Ajax to be competitive in Europe on a shoestring budget, and he's a winner.
I sincerely hope we don't opt for Poch. And if we go for Southgate, then God help us.

14.) 03 Mar 2022
03 Mar 2022 07:41:31
Nonsense bolger. England have never won the euros and gone in with better squads than Southgate has he has been England's 2nd best manager ever. He is doing a great job and should be kept there.
Great man manager a good man good morals and ethics and to say the 2nd best ever is staying a living because you don't like him shows exactly that your bias makes your opinion redundant when talking about him.
Stealing a living??? 2nd best ever.

15.) 03 Mar 2022
03 Mar 2022 09:06:18
If Southgate had been braver the Euros final was there to be won, let's face it as England manager and with the squad he has, qualifying for the tournament is a doddle, especially with the soft groups England always seem to get .

Once at the finals, it's six games to the final, bit of luck in the draw and you might not play one of the really big guns until the semis or final. Now compare that to winning a league title over 38 games against the likes of City and Liverpool .

As for the morals and ethics bit, we're back in Ole territory . Nice guy but not ruthless enough for a very top job.

16.) 03 Mar 2022
03 Mar 2022 09:07:19
Southgate is the right man for England and should be applauded for what he has done with England. I do think he made mistakes at the Euros and we could/ should have won it but a World Cup Semi Final and a Euro Final is good going considering, we aren't as good as some might like to think we are. I just don't think he is a club manager.

17.) 03 Mar 2022
03 Mar 2022 10:52:55
I don't think Southgate is the right fit or good enough to manage at the top end of the EPL.

Yet to dismiss his achievements with England seems a little petty.

He didn't have Ferdinand, Terry and Cole as the core of his back line.

He had Stones, Maguire and Chilwell.

He didn't have Lampard, Gerrard and Scholes as his key midfield options.

He had Phillips, Rice and Henderson.

Let's not pretend this is a top class England side crammed full of world class talents.

There are perhaps 6 or 7 international teams in the world that on paper have a far more talented pool of players.

We have repeatedly struggled to keep a defence that contains Maguire in the top four of the EPL, while Southgate has managed to take a team with Maguire to the World cup Semi-finals and the Euro's final.

He hasn't got great players at his disposal, but he makes the team greater than the sum of its parts. He gets the players motivated and gets them believing they can succeed. Two things most England managers have struggled with.

Obviously there is a massive disparity between the standard at international level and the EPL. And I don't think Southgates tactics would stand up to scrutiny at a higher and more technically challenging level that is the EPL.

Which is fine, he's doing well at the level he's at. Leave him there and focus on bringing in a manager who can work at the level we need, who fits the club's criteria.

18.) 03 Mar 2022
03 Mar 2022 13:34:30
Exactly shappy.
Doing a better job than anyone before him with England in any of our lifetimes.
Bolger if you are half as good at your job as Southgate is pricing to be at his in sure your paymasters will be well pleased.

19.) 03 Mar 2022
03 Mar 2022 14:59:43
you are right ken other managers have gone in with better squads but they have faced teams with much better squads also


i don't hate southgate i think he's done a good job with england considering how poor of a manager he is

but let's be honest we had an easy draw in the euros, teams you would expect England to beat

we had scotland croatia and the czech in the group

ukraine
gemrany
czech
italy

played 5 of the 6 games at home with the home crowd advantage this was the best chance of us winning somthing since 66 and we failed, southgates choice of subs and pen takers cost us and his negative tatics after we scored.

as bilko said above he reminds me of ole, to negative all nicey nice, its all good and well smashing the likes of san marino but he has failed in 2 consecutive competitions 3 if you count that other pointless one they introduced.

but for people to suggest him as united manager, please give me a break. he has found his level playing the likes of andorra and san marino

shappy comparing squads is pointless, that's like saying has france got zidane petit and viera b ut i agree with the bottom part of what you said.

we are all entitled to our opinions and mine stands at southgate is stealing a living and he should not be anywhere near being a choice for united

my paymasters are well pleased ken thanks for asking.

20.) 03 Mar 2022
03 Mar 2022 15:51:54
Bolger, my point was more that we have had much more gifted players in the past but performanced much worse.

The question you should be asking is how many of England's starting 11 would make it into the starting 11 of teams such as France, Germany, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Brazil, Argentina or Italy.

I don't think we get more than 3 players into everyone of those sides. I think some sides we'd struggle to get one England player into an opposition national team.

So if there are 8 sides that have a comparably stronger team than us then to go further than them suggests we are over performing by comparison.

As for having an easy path, that might be fine for one tournament, but consistently getting to Semi-finals/ finals suggests it's more than pot luck.

It's also not like the England have only ever been knocked out by better sides either. I remember losing to Romania and Iceland. Going out after loses to Italy, Uruguay and drawing to Costa Rica in the group stages.

We have a history of under performing and losing to teams we should beat. He has sorted that out.

I know a lot of people are bitter about not winning the Euro's. While it's easy in hindsight to say we should have been more adventurous during the final. The truth is if we were we may have conceded by being more open as a side.

We lost on penalties when a couple of young players who have probably scored thousands of penalties in practice missed on the big stage. It happens. Anyone can miss a penalty under that pressure.

Both lads are forwards and in theory should be more confident in front of goal than our defenders and midfielders.

I won't blame Southgate for picking them and I won't blame the lads for missing them. It happens. We move on.

As Ken says there is only one England manager with a better record than Southgate. If he can win something then he will go down as the most successful England manager of all time.

21.) 03 Mar 2022
03 Mar 2022 16:14:21
Shappy,

Who are the 6 or 7 sides in the world with a better pool of players right now?

22.) 04 Mar 2022
04 Mar 2022 07:32:25
Yeah, Southgate is the worst, since, before him, England was winning every competition! ?.

23.) 04 Mar 2022
04 Mar 2022 08:06:31
I don’t think Southgate steals a living that’s bit too far, there are many other managers that once on the merry go round of managers do well to get sacked and walk straight into another job does that mean they steal a living…No, but does it also mean they are top quality managers again NO IMO we only had 1 top quality manager in last 10 years including the present one and that’s Jose, but for some reason he was not backed or liked at the club to succeed. People can say they did not like him or he is rubbish for whatever reason but look at his CV that knocks that argument out…. Southgate no CV to speak of.

24.) 04 Mar 2022
04 Mar 2022 09:15:41
Bilko. France, Belgium, Portugal, Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Italy and I'd even argue Holland have a better pool of players than us to select from if you look at the defence for example, VVD, De Ligt, Dumfries, De Vrij, Blind, Botman would all get in our squad ahead of a lot of our defenders.

I would put us on par with Spain currently, just below these teams although I would say we are closing the gap.

25.) 04 Mar 2022
04 Mar 2022 09:59:56
Bilko, Ports beat me to it. Ask yourself how many England players would make it into the starting 11 for any of Brazil, Belgium, France, Portugal, Germany, Italy, Argentina, Holland or Spain.

Unless you can get at least 6 players into their starting 11 then they have a better team than you. I'd argue that you'd struggle to get more than 8 English players into any of those countries 23 man squad they would take to any tournament.

Which means that those countries have a better pool of players.

26.) 04 Mar 2022
04 Mar 2022 10:09:41
Viva, while Jose's achievements are undeniable, I think it's fair to question whether he is anywhere near as good as he used to be.

Personally I don't think he's been the same since his Real Madrid sacking.

He came back to Chelsea and got an immediate response, but it soon went sideways. When he left Chelsea were closer to relegation than top four.

He struggled at United, did well in two of the cups. Personally I feel Jose's style is more suited to knockout football. But it all ended in a rather big mess.

He then went to Spurs and never did much. Got them in a run to a cup final but was doing so poorly in the league he was sacked before he could play the final (which they lost in typical Spurs fashion) .

He's now at Roma and they are very middle of the road under him. Treading water currently in 6th in Serie A which this season is looking more open than it has in many years. With Juventus off the pace and Inter not looking as strong as they were under Conte.

Personally I think Jose is finished as a club manager. He's a guy who might be able to get a side to a cup final and maybe even win it. His defensive style that keeps the score low is well suited to knockout football. But in the league he doesn't seem to be able to keep pace with more free playing, proactive style.

I think the best solution for him is to move into international management. The knockout cup format suits his style. While the more time he can spend with his family might be better suited to him at this point in his life.