10 Apr 2022 15:39:20
If ETH turns us down, which is becoming a possibility, who do the club turn to then? Absolute mess of a club.


1.) 10 Apr 2022
10 Apr 2022 16:38:50
Pochettino i would think, considering it was between them two.


2.) 10 Apr 2022
10 Apr 2022 17:29:24
I wonder if he was spooked by the decision to give Bruno a new contract. I really don't see him fitting into a eth system.

{Ed014's Note - you’d have to be off your nut to take the United job!


3.) 10 Apr 2022
10 Apr 2022 17:40:27
First who confirmed he was taking the job and now who said its a possibility he turns us down? One result and EtH is having second thoughts? Ever wondered that if all was going well, we wouldn't be looking for a change at all.


4.) 10 Apr 2022
10 Apr 2022 18:24:44
Don't know how true but:

Reports that Manchester United and ETH at a standoff due to ETH requesting participation and significant say on transfers (incomings and outgoings) including types of players and how they'd fit into his system which the club is yet to assent to.

The fact that this is even an issue shows how amateurish and useless our club is run.

Also, reports that RBL have given a better offer than ours (with total control on transfers) to ETH but there's no denying which is a more attractive option.


5.) 10 Apr 2022
10 Apr 2022 18:33:09
Nothing to do with one result addict. More to do with how rubbish the club is run.


6.) 10 Apr 2022
10 Apr 2022 18:37:05
RB Leipzig sacked Marsch earlier in the year and appointed Tedesco I doubt they are looking to replace him already.


7.) 10 Apr 2022
10 Apr 2022 18:55:11
Also addict do you really think the club want change? We've been woeful for 7 years. No progress on or off the field. The people in charge care more about interactions then trophies. Can you really say that who ever is running this club will be willing to change to put things right? There's been no sign of them doing that.


8.) 10 Apr 2022
10 Apr 2022 19:33:35
Tom, if that'd be the case, i think Ole would still be in charge. Off the field, there won't be a change unless there is a change in ownership, but ofcourse you people are against the Saudis taking over so don't hold your breath on any change there.


9.) 10 Apr 2022
10 Apr 2022 19:35:23
I think we need to calm down, these are all normal negotiations just unfortunately being played out for us in the media.
Rounds of interviews, contractoffers and negotiations. I would love for us to announce him now but both sides have to get this right. I still don't see this as anything other than normal practice.
I am convinced with the decisions being made more on football people other than Woodward that this will get done.


10.) 10 Apr 2022
10 Apr 2022 19:50:40
I think it is only fair that the new manager should have a say in major decisions such as recruitment. After all, he carries the can if the team doesn't do well. If others with prominent positions in the club make decisions on recruitment and things go wrong, they wil retain their jobs. A manager such as Ten Hag with a specific system of play and knowing the type of players who will fit into that system should have the clout to pinpoint those players and insist that the club backs him. If I were Ten Hag and the club refused to agree to a request such as this, I would not go anywhere near that club. Recruitment since SAF has been very poor and decisions taken by certain influential members have get us into this absolute mess.


11.) 10 Apr 2022
10 Apr 2022 20:49:58
Which of our managers post ferguson haven't had a major say in recruitment.

Fellaini with Moyes
Blind/ Depay with LVG
Mourinho with Zlatan/ Matic
Ole with his Brexit reset and Maguire/ AWB/ James.

All those managers have been able to bring in players they have wanted to and so would ETH.


12.) 11 Apr 2022
11 Apr 2022 10:33:52
DSG whilst I agree with what you say there, every manager has had frustration with the recruitment at the club during their time.


13.) 11 Apr 2022
11 Apr 2022 12:01:35
Without doubt but that's life, you don't always get what you want.

Klopp didn't get VVD in the summer of 2018, what did he do:

1.) Throw his toys out of his pram and criticise Liverpools hierarchy and ownership in public.

2.) Sign an inferior player that summer just so he could have an extra body in the squad for the sake of it.

No he just waited till January and made the most of the situation with the likes of Lovren, Klavan etc.

Im growing tired of these constant complaints about the hierarchy, yes they haven't been good enough but neither have any of the managers, they've all been poor and made ridiculous decisions.


14.) 11 Apr 2022
11 Apr 2022 12:12:35
I don't think that's the case at all DSG.


15.) 11 Apr 2022
11 Apr 2022 12:34:06
The way I look at it DSG is would Klopp or Pep have won the trophies they have if they were appointed with us at the time they took their respective jobs. Honestly, I don't think so. Not down to their managerial ability at all, they are the best. But they were allowed to move players on, bring in players they felt they needed. We are still stuck with Pogba who has wanted to go for years, Lingard who the manager said could leave in January. As a club we make ludicrous footballing decisions.


16.) 11 Apr 2022
11 Apr 2022 16:38:02
Sorry, but the last 10 years are all down to the glazers, board, Woodward and the way the club is ran. United had 2 of the best managers around and were totally let down by Woodward and co. This was always going to happen, fergie and fill were the treatment for the cancer called glazer.

once they went United were doomed. Ran by clueless bankers with no care about the football, supporters etc United are dying a slow death.
And forgot ten hag, this board will mess it up.

The don't want a manager who expects to actually manage and demands standards. that's blasphemy to the glazers. Nope they want another yes man who'll be chucked under the bus by these jokers if players in 3 years time. they want poch and always have. Believe me, it's going to get even worse yet.


17.) 11 Apr 2022
11 Apr 2022 20:30:19
Have to agree with you ESN. Van Gaal was spot on when he labelled us a corporate club and not a football one. Since Fergie retired we’ve had some top managers and the result has been exactly the same, it can’t all be down to the manager! The structure at the entire football club is geared up towards money and increasing the Glazers dividends and not success on the pitch.

I actually feel a bit sorry for Solskjaer, despite him been tactically inept. He gets us to a second place finish and brings in a top centre half and attacking player we’d been after for 2 years. Things were looking potentially decent……then lo and behold, Ronaldo is brought in behind his back and his whole seasons planning goes out the window. All for the sake of shirt sales, and some absurd notion we had to ‘rescue’ him from the clutches of Citeh. And make no mistake, he’d have signed for City without a second thought.

Until Manchester United overhauls the entire structure then we are doomed to fail. All the dead wood need to be cleared out, including all the relics from yesteryear. We need to move forward as a club, and as much as I hate to say it, we need to forget about the Fergie years. They ain’t coming back. Get rid of Phelan, Fletcher etc and also stop the input of certain directors. New start and move forward. Fresh coaches, fresh analysts, new playing staff. A clear management structure where all roles are catered for but ultimately rest on the managers shoulders.

Never going to happen is it!


18.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 09:12:46
It's just how I feel fireman, and in truth how we all feel. Been going to United since the mid 80s and I've never felt as depressed about United as I do now. United were crap in the late 80s but they gave it all, some were drunk on the pitch but I never came out if a game thinking no one tried. They just weren't very good at the time. But these lot, and board. yikes, horrible feeling that next season will be worse than this mess.


19.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 14:20:02
I know what your saying definitely, I was exactly the same. I hate to say it but the place is toxic at the minute from top to bottom. So depressing.


20.) 12 Apr 2022
12 Apr 2022 14:26:53
Fireman,

It seems like there are two types of owners for the top teams now.

Either oil (etc) supported money (MC, Chelsea, Newcastle) or US investment teams.

The Oil guys have unlimited funds and the US guys just want a return on their money.

The US guys are used to the franchise model with no relegation etc and whilst they will put money into a club (as the Glazers and FSG have done) they are just interested in the bottom line.

My team LFC have remained competitive only due to the genius of JK, yourselves and Arsenal under similar ownership have regressed.

Whilst the US owners are only interested in profit and have no sentimental attachment to the clubs then we are all destined in the long run to play second fiddle to the Oil clubs.

I see LFC (post JK) joining yourselves and Arsenal in a scrap for 4th/ 5th/ 6th place.

I remember fondly the days when Villa or Norwich or QPR had a good run at winning the First Division, those days are gone forever.

I am now resident in the US (and desperately trying to get into the borefest that is US sport) and hate the franchise system with a passion as it destroys competition) .

God help us all if they get control of the EPL someday.

And how can you not beat Everton lol.