Manchester United Banter Archive June 10 2012

10 Jun 2012 23:08:35
Watched Modric with particlar interest tonight and he did impress me, though he seem to tire towards the end. His positional sense, distribution and constantly making himself available to his team mates was very Schole'esq......but without the goal threat. I've said before on this site that I don't really want him and rather have a strong mid fielder but if that is his usual game then I for one could be persuaded to think differently.

J - Stand

Completely agree, he reminded me of Scholes so much during that game and would be a brilliant replacement.

TRJC

Have you not watched Spurs the last two or three years then?
Invisible Stuey

He's been doing this consistently for 2-3 years as IS stated. Also - he'd be taking up Scholes' role from in his final years which hasn't seen him provide a goal threat earlier, as he dictates play from deep in midfield. I for one hope the reported links with Modric hold some truth

Gav

You said you commented before that you did nt want modric but are now admitting you did nt have a clue what you were on about?

10 Jun 2012 23:18:26
New formation idea? Btw its without Modric who I don't want us to sign..

De gea
Rafa Smalling vidic new LB

Asamoah/strootman

Valencia. Young/nani

Kagawa

Welbeck. Rooney

So essentially its 4-4-2 still but converted to a diamond lay out would accomodate kagawa;s prefered position with a holding mid behind him toniV starting for me PURE class! Keeping the blossoming Rooney and welbeck partnership I don't know about lb but maybe eves will stay with compotition from fryers and blackett (maybe) and rafa for) as I think he will get beyyer with more game time all in all all players will have prefered positions with fluent play and maybe welbeck Rooney amd kags (what I'm calling him :P) can interchang, share Views and feel free to Criticise/praise.

Macca!

Too attack minded IMO - with only 1 holding midfielder Valencia, the LW and Kagawa would have to drop into midfield to help out which wouldnt allow them the creative freedom they need. Valencia is best hugging the touchline and Kagawa is best breaking towards the opposition's 18 yard box (where'd we'd already have 2 strikers) which would leave our CM extremely open, especially agains teams who play 3 in the centre

For me if Kagawa plays then we still need to CM'ers in behind him (unless he plays out wide)

Gav

10 Jun 2012 22:33:46
When we're not linked with modric we would all love him here, when we are we don't want him. When we're not linked with strootman we would all love to see him here, when we are linked with him he 'wouldnt improve' the team.
Make your mind up guys?

You know we're not one person right? It's not just one guy saying we don't want a player then we do. You want all of us collectively to agree with eachother...?

10 Jun 2012 21:25:28
The Da silva brothers will be top defenders in the future. They have made a few mistakes but so have Alba and Willems because they are young too. People are quick to say lets buy either of these. If they came to the EPL and made a few mistakes then they would get criticised like hell.

The twins will learn by playing games. Unfortunately for Rafael he hasn't had Neville showing him the ropes. He would have learnt his trade off a top pro that way.

Against Everton Fergie should have taken Rafael off, given him a patt on the back and said learn from today now watch the rest of the game. Smalling should have come on instead of him.

Also when a few people would like to play Clyne ahead of Rafael who has little EPL experience and isn't used to playing under pressure i,e. for a big club. He may well buckle and make a few mistakes. Its more than likely he would have limited appearances initially to build his confidence up, should we sign him.

All in all the twins are still young (21?) you can't expect them to be top players by this age.

Is so easy to write players off. It took Fletcher a few years to get consistant.

Also with the injuries we have had this season it has been hard on the whole team as we have lacked a natural leader, Vidic/Fletcher. Evra never seems to communicate or lead by example.

At times its been the youngsters that have shown the older players how its done.

Ed's what are your views?

Mad Hatter {Ed004's Note - I rate Rafael extremely highly but would like to see Clyne signed for competition}

This is why baines is not needed.... willems maybe as he is young but certainly not baines

fearny

10 Jun 2012 20:45:40
daniel sturridge - possibility? bench warming at chelski, but HUGE talent and young? make a bid?

10 Jun 2012 20:30:35
Modric running the show but I don't rate him as high as most here do. Don't get me wrong class act . But he is very weak and doesnt cope with physical midfielders well enough.

He's giving an absolute master class right now. Also, the R.o.I are one of the most gritty, physical teams around and it hasn't affected him much so far...

#ags

Are you on the home brew !
Suppose you want Scotty Parker

Parker is the most over rated player since GARETH'I get paced even though I'm 30 yards ahead of ozil' BARRY

Philiphs93

10 Jun 2012 20:09:05
Read a funny thing on the scousers page about them being interested in Steve Davis from Derby.
Nearly wet myself, oh how the mighty have fallen.
I reckon the 6 times world snooker champion would be a better signing.

Red Daz.

10 Jun 2012 20:02:22
Personally I can't understand why people keep crying out for a holding midfielder like Strootman. I thought Carrick was excellent last year, and hopefully Fletcher will be back this season. I'd be more than happy to sign Modric for the reported £25m to add to the signing of Kagawa. Also the 'fans' calling for the sale of Nani need to get real! He has been excellent for past two seasons. Making too many big signings will only put the price of tickets up!

Steve the red

10 Jun 2012 19:54:00
Benzema has come out and said that we have tried to sign him every season since 2008.
Originally we coulnt agree terms with Lyon but he said he always wanted to go Spain anyway and is now happy there.
Looks like we can write him off for the near future then, shame really.

10 Jun 2012 19:33:56
Gotta love trappatoni. Hopefully ireland can pull off a win tonight while at the same time modric plays his best game ever.

Doni

Did you all see the clip of his press conference at B Munich early in his career, bloody mental! LOL. He sure is passionate I'll give him that

Gav

10 Jun 2012 19:02:04
we need some new defenders de gea will need another season to bed in the twins arnt good enough evra gives the ball away once over the halfway line evans still not up to it midfield get rid of carrick and anderson buy young davis of bolton

As soon as you say Evans is not up to it, anyone loses credibility. He did a great job and almost helped us to the title. I'd love to see a 5th choice center back do so well and almost win a league title...

RedDevil19

Who the hell are Jones and Smalling then? Before you reply their not good enough.....they will be, if we play them.

Evans and Carrick - two of our top performers throughout last season. So yeh, not good enough, let's sell them both! Crazy

Gav

10 Jun 2012 18:52:19
Is it just me that finds Spain very boring to watch?

DB-Red

No totally agree, can't stand them, far too arrogant. Was cheering Italy on all the way.

Altho' Torres couldn't hit a cow's behind with a shovel it really showed they had been lacking a striker when he came on - his runs into space streched Italy and he had 3 chances to score. I thought the way they set up initially led to their play being very boring, lacking cutting edge a la Arsenal before RVP!

Gav

Like Barca. Very boring.

DodgyBanter

Agree DB they bore me to death.
100 5-yard passes in a row yawn........
They could do with Crouch and Heskey in their team haha!!!

Red Daz.

I always thought Torres could get back to his best but todays performance I don't think he can, he just lacks the explosive acceleration he had, sad in a way but it would have been worse if he was ours but much much better if he was still livefools

Pardoe

Get what you mean pardoe but its even better he's Chelsea's, they are still a major title rival whereas Liverpool aren't. And no Drogba to bail them out either.

Cheers guys, glad its not just me. I don't know how a team could go into a tournament and not start a striker and expect to do well.

DB-Red

They were only boring because, until Torres came on, they had very few decent efforts. That style of football is fantastic when it leads to clear cut chances.

RedDevil19

10 Jun 2012 18:07:07
Is there a more over rated player in world football than that mard arse Ballotelli...????

Utter garbage!!

Wouldnt want the little piss-ant anywhere near Old Trafford!!

PIT APE

He is utter utter utter crap and has the worst attitude av ever seen,surely city fans cant like this muppet.Terry

Im sorry but the guy has real talent... you just have your red tinted glasses on. He may have an attitude but atleast he has a personality this guy if he lost some of that attitude could be one of the best in the world. Still only 22.

fearny

Yes rooney
y.n.w.a

I love this, still only young etc. Rooney was 18 when he set the league on fire and matured by the age of 22. If you dont like that analogy then look at aguero. 23 and he scores loads and hasnt got one bit of an atitiude like that idiot. The guy doesnt deserve the talent he has

10 Jun 2012 17:56:07
this is the sixth game this season i've watched alba in and honestly i don't get why so many on here want to sign him. Anyone?

Don't confuse jordi alba with Alaba at Bayern who a few of us want to sign

Red Man

First time watching him. Not impressed either. But I'm going to give the lad several viewings before I slate him. A mindset that should be adopted by some of the posters on here.

BornInToIt

He had a poor game - but still a quality young player. Shame he's on his way to Barcelona really with us being linked with Baines and all!

T0MB0Z

Because he's foreign and the names sound better than Leighton baines
Simple as no thought or knowledge of these player

RedMan, i wasn't confusing them. i will admit i've Bayern's Alaba the once, but the Valencia one thats 6 games this season now and hasn't impressed me once.

BornInToIt i wasn't slating him just saying that in the 6 games i've seen him in he hasn't impressed me once, even statistically according to the law of average he should have done in 1 out of 6.

Tomboz he didn't impress me at all and i think he'll suit Barca better than us, what with their keep ball and liking fullbacks who can fill in in midfield as an extra option for a sideways pass to keep possession. He is a converted winger as well so as i say i think he'll do well at Barca, i just don't think he's the guy for us.

In fairness to the lad, he had nothing in the middle to cross to!
DodgyBanter

10 Jun 2012 17:42:51
Fernando Torres as come out and stated that he if he could turn back time, he would of signed for Manchester United instead of Liverpool and Chelsea, and blames his time in England as the reason of him losing his place in Spain's starting eleven. He as also told close friends and family that if the option ever came up to play with Rooney, Park, Carrick and Anderson he would jump at it.....

Sign him up Mr Sir Alex Fergason

Big bad Roy boy

You're hilarious.

RedDevil19

It's pretty obvious that if he could turn back time he would have signed for us over Liverpool.

Sydney!

10 Jun 2012 17:30:03
Looking at peoples teams for the future a lot of them if not all of them dont include Jones. Do a lot of you see as being more of a squad player rather than a guaranteed starter. In my opinion given a bit of time I think he would become a great midfielder, if it weren't for smalling id have him playing centre back next season.
Sparky {Ed004's Note - Due to Smalling and Vidic I think he will be a squad player next year but will get plenty of game time. I just worry that he might turn out like O'Shea.}

Jones will not be a midfielder because he does not have the intelligence for it. He will not be a regular CB next year either because his positioning is woeful, which is surprising because he is more experienced in the league than Smalling yet Smalling is light years ahead.

The only way he will get into our team right now is at RB.

If he turns out like o'shea and goes a season with 5 shots = 5 goals and a last minute winner at anfield, whilst also going in net for the team. I will worship him

In my opinion jones is a great prospect but needs to to be given a regular position so he can grow in that roll never have liked the utility tag
d edwards

10 Jun 2012 16:49:14
Just a note on England, that side they have shown looks a very depressing one, but i think for the next Euro's and maybe even the next World Cup i fancy that we will have even more of the key players.

Rooney, Young, Jones, Smalling, Cleverly and Welbeck will be important figures, i fancy Barkley and Powell to be in and around our team also. In the next few years i fancy our squad to dominate the English team and hopefully dominate international football (its a long shot). This could be the line up:

_______________Hart
Walker___Smalling____Jones___Gibbs
____Wilshere___Barkley___Cleverly
____OX_______Rooney______Welbeck

Thats probably one of the most exciting England teams that we will have seen in years. Hopefully one that can play on the front foot instead of the one that Woy is building.

RedDevil19 {Ed004's Note - I don't get why Roy hasn't done this for this tournament. Being realistic they won't win it. So bring a young and up and coming side and let them have a go and gain experience...}

Exactly, he has stuck with the tried, tested and failed rubbish in the likes of Gerrard, Terry etc. How Milner and Downing can possibly be first choice is beyond me.

RedDevil19

In fairness Smalling and Wilshere are injured, Barkley isn't ready for an international tournament yet and neither is Jones to start for England at CB. However, from a neutral point of view I think England always under perform as a result of them always going for the big egos such as Gerrard and Terry.

Welsh Dragon

You can't fauly Hodgson for not taking Smalling and Wilshere as they would not of made it. The same with Walker. I would say that he should of taken Richards who had a chance to be fit.

My biggest gripe is that he is playing Milner and Downing, for me the OX should be given game time to get him used to the international stage. He is every bit as good as Downing etc already. Hopefully when Rooney is back we will play Welbeck with Rooney, Young left and Walcott/Milner right (even though Milner is hopeless also). I'd even take a struggling for fitness Cleverly than I would take Henderson. Even a lot of Liverpool fans that i know admit that he and Downing are absolute s**te.

RedDevil19

10 Jun 2012 16:30:46
------------DDG--------------

Rafa----Vidic---Evans----Jetro

Nani---Carrick---Modric--Young

-----------Kagawa------------

-----------Rooney------------

Realistically i think this is how we will line up next season. We WON'T play 4-2-3-1 because i reckon Fergie wont change it. The Modric interest seems real, and hopefully we won't get Baines, Williems, Alba, alaba etc much better. This side may be good enough to win the title, but we will fall short in the Champions league unfortunately.

Here's to hoping i'm proven wrong

MelonRed {Ed004's Note - I think we will see Smalling beside Vidic and I say we would do well in Europe as long as we sign one DM such as M'Villa. Then next year replace Young with Muniain and I think we would have a winning formula there}

Thats the team that I want to see, maybe put Smalling in ahead of Evans though as for me Smalling is identical to a younger Ferdinand. Willems will be the perfect replacement for Evra, Fabio will have something to say about that also i would think.

Modric and Carrick would dominate most matches, Kagawa would be great behind Rooney also. And thats a good shout from ed 004, replacing Young with Muniain (or Rodriguez) i think. Give them both an extra year at their respective clubs.

RedDevil19

10 Jun 2012 15:58:48
according to Benzema united have been chasing hi for 'the past three or four seasons' is this true ED's and if so are we still interested in him?

JS {Ed004's Note - Not sure but doesn't look like we will get him. Maybe it is why we are now interested in Lewandowski apparently. He is a very similar player.}

10 Jun 2012 15:05:14
Am i the only person who is worried about

1 Vidic may not come back the layer he was... long term injury and hes getting no younger.

2. Jones's development imo has stalled with the constant position changing and he is careless.

3. Evra is seriously poor imo he has severley dropped his standards the last two seasons he is poor defensively and doesnt bomb forward and cross or cause a threat

4. Nani is too inconsistent for my liking he is world class in one moment then hes blackpool class another far too indecisive in the final third.

5. Rafael's development isnt up to scratch either i think he is very good and i think he will become a great right back but he also struggles defensively at times and isnt a threat crossing or anything either.

6. Centre mid is our problem area imo we need a steely player that can sit in front of the back 4 and pass a ball to the creative players and my choices would be Strootman,Moutinho or Fellaini i know il get slammed for putting forward fellaini but i rate him hes powerful and in the united side he would improve greatly imo plus people seem to forget he is still very young.

This is excatly why we will have a busy and hectic transfer market.
For the Vidic and Jones problem:
Hummels £20m

Evra problem:
Leighton Baines £12m+ Carrick/Fabio (loan)

Nani Prob:
Gaitan or Rodriguez £25m

Rafael prob:
Clyne £2m

Centre Mid prob:
Strootman Modric Powell or Tiote £15m/£30/£6m/£20 (2 off them)

Im not saying we should by all of them but Does this solve your worries? {Ed004's Note - You want to replace Nani with the extremely inconsistent Gaitan. This is another case of seeing a cow in the other field and thinking it is better than your own... or whatever the phrase is...}

I marvel as to why people would want Gaitan instead of Nani, youve probably seen him play 3 or 4 times, i bet he's never made you go wow. And for the OP, i don't see how you think Moutinho would be a good presence in midfield like Fellainin....Moutinho is a tricky player who is about 5ft 7 and not a battler at all.

RedDevil19

I hate Gaitan imo he is very poor ....Rodriguez is the man to replace nani if we do

The only player i'd have over Nani right now is Muniain.

REDFAITH

REDFAITH

Muniain is a player I think we would be foolish to miss out on and would sell Nani to get him

Red Man

10 Jun 2012 14:43:44
What's the deal with Strootman? Is he a good player or not?
SqueakyBum

He's very good. He can pass,dribble,tackle and shoot! He has been said to be the new Roy Keane

Strootman isnt like roy keane, thats just lazy journalism.

Not taking anything away from Strootman, he has all the potential in the world so we will see.

Cban

10 Jun 2012 14:25:43
was anyone else a bit disappointed in eriksen yesterday? I think he's been a bit overhyped. Or maybe the expectation is a bit much for him seeing as he's just a lad. Thought denmark were brilliant though. Played well did the job and the centrebacks were immense. Never fancied the dutch though. Try to be too fancy all the time.

10 Jun 2012 13:40:06
People saying we should go for Affelay and Sneijder I can see where you're coming from, but the people on this site aren't the only ones who watched the game yesterday, we will not get Affelay for as little a £6 million because if he carries on with those performances that price is surely to sky rocket. The same goes with Sneider.

Yellowcar

I wouldn't worry about sneijder's value sky rocketing; his price tag has been orbiting for the last few years.

BornInToIt

10 Jun 2012 13:16:19
I find it laughable the amount of people who want Sneijder now. Yes, I posted yesterday that he would have been a good option if we had secured his signature, and he still would be, but Kagawa is the man that will take us forward now. The Sneijder boat has sailed whether you like it or not.

A player would have to be of the right age for us to consider buying on more than one occasion, look at the Benzema interview this morning, apparently we have gone for him on more than one occasion. I think the same is the case for Ozil who we have allegidly enquired about quite a number of times.

I think in SAF's eyes, if a player is special enough there is always room for him. Many would say that we don't ned a striker, but you can bet that if someone like Benzema becomes free then we will head the cue. Modric is in the same bracket, Modric really is admired by SAF and if there is any possibility of him moving this summer then we will head the cue. I'm fairly positive that we will sign him finally this summer and he, along with Kagawa, will transform the team.

Its Croatia vs Rep. Ireland in a bit, and I hope that Modric stars purely so I can have a laugh at all the people who marvels about Modric after one good performance. Should be a good laugh.

RedDevil19

I find it laughable the amount of people who want Sneijder now. Yes, I posted yesterday that he would have been a good option if we had secured his signature, and he still would be

You put that at the start of your post and i laughed so hard ..... how contradictory ?

Yes, he would be a good option, he still would be, BUT WE DON'T NEED HIM NOW. We have Kagawa, i said that in case you can't read.

RedDevil19

Alot of people have said that modric is overrated and doesn't get enough goals/assists but IMO its quite hard to realise the midfielders job. People will always recognise the strikers contribution because of his goals, the wingers because of their crosses, runs,assists, and defenders because of tackles, clearences, headers. But for a midfielder will just look like their passing all the time but not really doing much more than that, but if everybody tonight really focuses in the job modric does then they will realise why SAF wants him. Look at how he controls the tempo of the game and is the engine of the team. (Of course under the assumption that he will have a good game).

Doni

He controls it so well, and he sets up the likes of Bale, van der Vaart etc at Spurst to supply the assists. He'd get a few more assits at OT, a few more goals but would supply countless 'pre-assist' balls to the likes of Kagawa, Rooney, Young, Nani and Valencia.

RedDevil19

No-name. Did you even read the full post? I didn't - but based on the 2 lines of it which you've posted I assume that what RedDevil19 finds laughable is how fickle a lot of people on this page are. Everybody has been very anti-Sneijder for a while now but after watching him play one good game of football now seem to think we should sign him. It suggests to me that those people had never seen him play before - because if you go back to the 2010-2011 season or the 2010 World Cup he was playing like that in nearly every game.

T0MB0Z

Thats exactly what i'm talking about 'TOMBOZ', people are very fickle, especially the unnamed posters. I wish people would leave a name.

RedDevil19

10 Jun 2012 12:34:53
It's come to my knowledge that Borrusia Dortmund want Edin Dzeko to replace Lewandowski. The deal would be around £18 million and they want to use that money to beat Bayern Munich to Dzeko's signature.

They will offer him guaranteed first team football which Munich can not and Dortmund if the deal for lewandowski is going to happen they want it done soon so they can replace him with Dzeko.

fearny

This was in the paper a few days ago.

Joe

I imagine Lewandowski would cost an initial £10m plus £5m or so in add-ons. I do not think we would spend an initial £15m on him when we have other areas to strengthen. For £10m plus add-ons I think he would be worth buying. Next season his value could double. If he signed a new deal with Dortmund he could be worth more than Dzeko was sold for. If the manager thinks he will be a talent then now is the right time to buy.

Sydney!

Whats your take on the supposed bid for lewandowski syd? Like you say its a squad game but i cant see where he would fit in with rooney welbeck and chico all gunning for that one up top role? Maybe welbeck used on one of the am wings?

Your always letting your imagination run wild ! 2 years left on contract and will stand out in euro's .unless we have a pre-arranged deal then Dortmund will be in abettet position to negotiate a higher cash price bearing in mind they will want to strengthen immediately . Or did you forget their recent double. They have high standards and expectations they won't be pressured into a staggered deal

Lewandowski on face value doesn't make all that much sense...i will admit that. But it is a squad game. We will often play Rooney up top on his own with Kagawa behind him. With the amount of injuries we have had, we do need more options. Welbeck can play wide left also, saw we could technically play with a front three of Rooney, Lewandowski and Welbeck with Hernandez, Kagawa and a winger on the bench. Thats one option. Then in some games we will play 4-4-2.

SAF is very stubborn, throughout his time his most success has come when we have had four strikers that have given us options. In 99 it was Sheringham, Solskjaer, Cole and Yorke and in 2008 we had Tevez, Rooney, Berbatov and Saha (Ronaldo too). So this year it wouldn't surprise me to see SAF trim down the striking numbers and have a four of Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck and Lewandowski. Thats a classy bunch.

RedDevil19

I just can't see Borussia Dortmund on the back of such a good season willing to sell so many of their players, would they not want to keep the team together to build on their success and maintain their challenge against Bayern Munich. I accept that Kagawa was in the last year of his contract and as the Dortmund manager stated, the Premier League has a considerable following Asian following and is preferred to the English league.

As Sydney said, Lewandowski has 2 years left on his contract and is their goal machine. Did Smuda not say that one of their defenders would be leaving for Real Madrid also, correct me if I'm worng.

It would be like City selling Aguero, and Silva and possibly Kompany having won the title and challenging Utd for trophies.

Barca Devil

That is the sticking point, Smuda said that Lewandowski, Pisczeck and Kuba would be leaving. Add on top of that Kagawa and they wil lhave sold 4 of their starting 11.

RedDevil19

10 Jun 2012 12:16:58
Interesting fact from the German game last night 1st half Schweisteiger (sp) covered the most ground ,I never considered him a grafter before tbh so I found it interesting

Pardoe {Ed004's Note - I rate him highly and would be my ideal signing along with Martinez for the commanding midfielder. He is a superb player and in the top 5 midfielder in the world category for me}

I have always wanted Schweinsteiger at united. When there was talk of sneijder over so many years, i have always preferred the german. Overall he is a better player, however that man will never leave Bayern. The club is in his heart.
Joel

10 Jun 2012 12:14:39
Lets look at our targets:

Modric £30m
Powell £4
Kagawa £14m (DONE)
Lewandovski £16m
Baines £13m +Da Silva (loan) /Carrick

I personally think we should play a 4 2 3 1 . I think it would work very well:

De Gea

Jones Vidic Rio Evra/Baines


Scholes Fletcher


Modric Kagawa Young


Rooney

Now thats what I call a team that can beat Barca!

SUBS: Lindegard Smalling Evans Powell Chicharito Welbeck Leandowski


And we would sell:

Ando £10m
Park £7m
Berba £8m
Carrick £10m
James £1m
De Laet £1m

Where's player of the season in Valencia?

That is probably the stupidest thing ive ever seen. park 7mil?

wheres valencia and nani? we wouldnt buy lewadownski if we start 1 striker

TRUMORS

Not a chance!

1redarmy

10 Jun 2012 12:09:56
German journo's on twitter saying Lewy deal done because he told Dortmund he wont sign new contract in 2 years, said he would wait another year, supposedly dortmund will cash in now rather than lose say 10m by next season when his contract is 1 year

And yes I know its only twitter rumours

Pardoe

His contract having one year rather than two will not have a huge impact on his price given that he's supposedly already expressed his desire to leave. If he honestly wants to go then I expect they will sell - but I'm not sure I'd want a player who would force a move away from a club who plucked him out of relative obscurity and really brought him to the public eye just two years ago. Not to mention I don't really rate him.

T0MB0Z

10 Jun 2012 11:24:07
Reports today saying Fergie wants and thinks Laurent Blanc is the man to take over Man Utd when he retires.

Would be suprised if this happened. Wonder what peoples thoughts are of this?

fearny {Ed004's Note - I think he is a very good manager. I would like to see him, Loew, Mourinho or Bielsa takeover...When Fergie retires}

Ed . Mourinho ?? You think he is a developer of talent and a man who will fit in with the way we represent ourselves across the globe. You forgotten what we are as a club? We're not rock stars or cry babies we are professional and committed to our image. He's a money grabbing over rated diva who would embarrass us. He will never get the job. Fact ! Hierarchy despise him at ot. {Ed004's Note - But you need someone who will be able to handle the pressure of succeeding Fergie. You also want someone who you know will have you competing in all fronts. Madrid this year played very good football at times and he did well without a big budget at Inter. Atleast I don't think he had a big budget at Inter or Porto?}

If you look at history he was
Lucky to win cl as disallowed goal against scholes and that clown Carroll. You can't count his amazing record in Portugal look at avb. Also he spent a fortune however the platform was made for him by ranieri which he never got due credit for. He inherited an amazing team at inter and Erm he spent quite a pretty penny there too. He had a mixture of raw talent and enormous experience then finally Madrid more money spent more arm flapping . One league where barca have struggled this year. One thing always happens . He spends wins a league brings unwanted attention and go's. I wanna build for the future ! {Ed004's Note - He said in an interview he wants to join a club and build a legacy awhile ago...}

Thanks for your honesty, agree to disagree . Wish I could educate you more though:) he's a clown and is not the type of man I've been brought up to expect to represent us. The united way is what we built our history on. Why change now ? {Ed004's Note - When Fergie goes the club will undergo a transition. We need to make sure that we replace Fergie with someone who will be able to deal with the media pressure while ensuring the club continues to be successful. He wouldn't be my first choice but I garuntee you his name will be mentioned when it comes to the time in deciding who will replace Fergie...}

Just my personal opinion on the possibility of Mourinho taking over from SAF. I used to think he was born to manage Utd, and found him witty, antagonising, charming and infuriating, all in equal measure. But having witnessed his antics in Madrid over the last couple of seasons, I'm afraid I now just find him boorish and crass, with very little class, if any. I know he has the ego and the talent for the Utd job immediately after SAF, but on a personal level, I now just find it really hard to like or respect the guy. Plus, apart from Real this season, can anyone say his style of football is attractive? {Ed004's Note - But what you can take from this season is the fact that his teams can play very good football...}

True Ed, but lets be honest - even my missus could get that team playing attractive football. My worry would be when he doesn't have quite the same calibre of player available to him. Sorry for not leaving a name last time.

StevieK {Ed004's Note - Yea I know what you are saying but look what he did with porto and Inter. He didn't have the best teams in the world yet still won the champions league. You can't put it all down to luck as winning it twice imo is past coincidence}

Ed, I wouldn't be so disrespectful to the guy as to put all his success down to luck - I acknowledged the man has the talent to manage Utd. No doubt he would even win us some silverware, but I guess I'm just an aul romantic. Having been raised on 'exciting', 'fast-paced', 'edge of your seat' and 'free-flowing', since the days of Gordon Hill and Stevie Coppell, I don't know if I could settle for 'functional', 'hard to beat' and 'ruthlessly efficient'. Plus, I seriously think his childish, petulant, prima donna histrionics would draw attention to our club for all the wrong reasons.

StevieK {Ed004's Note - I acknowledge what you are saying but I did state he wouldn't be my first choice but he would be considered. I like Blanc or Loew and think they football they play is brilliant. Bielsa is a brilliant tactician as well}

Fair enough - any of those three would be fantastic for us, with a Neville or Scholes helping out and learning the trade. Just have a horrible feeling, that in this celebrity-crazed age, the clamour for the 'personality' of Mourinho, fuelled by comments from the man himself, means he'll get it....

StevieK

10 Jun 2012 11:15:15
This is what I heard from work. Fergie is said to have targeted 4 positions to cover mainly 2 midfielders, one striker and possible defender. This is because of Berba and Owen leaving and lack of quality in mid. Also he hopes to bring youngsters for the future. So after the signing of Kagawa we got to expect 2 more big signings and 2 youngsters. I hear of the defenders that we have a verbal agreement with Everton to let Baines stay at Everton for another season and then we get him next season. At most look forward for (after Kagawa) another midfielder and a striker. The youngsters I think they are the ones everyone has been talking about - Powell and Clyne. I don't buy this theory that we have got 90 million to spend. Last season we were rumoured to have 150m but how we spent just under 60m. I am sure we are in that bracket again. It's the nature of business with the Glazers around.

Zimbabwean Manc

Let Baines stay for another year? Gave me a me a nice little chuckle. He is not of the age or the talent to warrant such an extended courtship.

BornInToIt

10 Jun 2012 11:09:40
Just becaause a certain player has a good 90 minutes for their country, does not signify they will be an amazing signing for Man United.
Yes Sneijder had a good game and he's passing was great, but we already know that about him.....he also comes with baggage...etc.
As for the young left back for Holland....he isn't as good as Evra by a mile....and we have the da silvas.
We have to buy players that play well for their clubs and not their country's.
Sneijder has a good game and suddenly we are questioning the signing of Kawaga....who had an amazing season and now Modric??
It seem's to be that you are a dead cert signing until the next Euro game is played, and a better player suddenly appears.
Is this going to be the theme for this site over the next month. Every player that has a good game should be signed to replace the relevant player at Man United in that same position?
Let's get this straight, Fergie has gone on holiday now, Gill and he's team have been given a list with 1st, 2nd and 3rd choses. They have probable been working on these deals for months.
Fergie is always wary of these tournaments...ie Karel Poborsky....enough said.

Agreed. Sneijder has been talked about very little on this site before yesterday... a few good passes later and hes the center of attention. Everybody already knows about him, but it seems that some people have never seen sneijder play before. Look out for players that are not well known and established yet i.e. willems, modric 2008(which spurs smartly bought him before the euros)

Doni

10 Jun 2012 10:34:02
Just from memory, M'vila has had a sort of ballotelli arrogence about him in the past few years (obviously not as bad), could this stop Fergie from looking into him too much?
Joel

10 Jun 2012 10:23:04
So before the poland ame everyone was like:
"we dont need a striker, we will only play one up front...blah blah blah"
After poland game:
"we should sign lewandowski...FERGIE SIGN HIM UP!!"
Before holland game:
"sneijder is too old,injury prone and plays behind the striker were kagawa plays AND he had a poor season with inter. Furthermore,his wages would be high"
After holland game:
"OMG guys have you seen this dude sneijder?! He is AMAZING!lets ignore all logical thoughts and buy him, who cares about kagawa, just play him deep, im sure he will figure that position out. Modric is terrible, ive always preffered sneijder."

Seriously, think about what united need. We do not need sneijder, and imo he is not worth it. We do not need a striker atm. United need to focus on their greatest weaknesses i.e full back and cm/acm not acm, we have got kagawa.

Im fully expecting mighty judgement upon modric today. If he plays well:" i love him."
If hes average:" i dont want him."

Doni
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Modric has proven himself in a top club in the PL- he doesn't need to prove anything else to anyone on here. He's done the job and could do it for us- what more is there to say really except DEAL DONE.

Millions on a proven Modric is money well spent- millions on unproven egos like Hazard could be a big mistake. they already have Terry who more than fills the ego/ I'm the big player round here role.

Pretty sure it's not the same people...

Haha good post! I'm sure this is going to happen throughout the tournament though.....perhaps we should just wait to see who gets the 'golden boot' and 'player of the tourament' awards and put in 2 offers ; ) I can picture SAF now, watching every game then getting on the phone to Gill to change his list of targets! So far we're back in for Sneijder and may as well take Arshavin from Arsenal as he had a stormer! With Marchisio and Modric playing today we could have our midfield sorted by bedtime.....

Gav

God I love MOTD fever

Pardoe

10 Jun 2012 08:20:17
After scoring a well taken hat-trick in the reserves against Newcastle. Macheda was put on to find a winner against Villa at OT. Then the following week deflected a Carrick shot in the net against Sunderland.

He's gone on to score against Villa again and Chelsea in the league. Fergie really rates him as a finisher.

Now Will Keane will be side lined for 9 months injured. Do you think the young Italian will get one more chance?

Loan or 4th Striker? (Owen, Diouf & Berbatov have all left)

It seems his days might be numbered with two bad/unlucky loan spells & being linked with Lewandowski, Benzima, Powell & Henriquez.

Macheda has stated he wants to stay at the Club which is nice to hear.
What do you guys think???????????

He wont get games with us......in the biggest games we will be going 4-2-3-1 with Kagawa and Rooney.....and in the smaller games in the epl and carling/fa cup matches will be Hernandez and welbeck etc......all rotating.

lewis.no.9

Not good enough has gone backwards
johndenton

10 Jun 2012 00:46:12
Baines 17 million ? I'd rather give fryers a 30k a week contract for 4 years which would save us a fortune. Yes this would rise to probably 60 when he breaks in as a regular . Over next 4 years would save us about 25 million on a better player who at that point will be dominant for another 6 years on top of that. Have faith in our youth development . We got cover with fabio once evra hangs his boots up , mysteryx

And what will you do in the several years' time it will take fabio and fryers to develop into passable premier league starters?

you understand this is happening because there is a three year gap between evra's useful remaining time and the time it will take to develop a young prospect as a replacement...hence, you get an established serviceable veteran like baines who is league average or better to fill that gap for three or four years. baines makes total sense for that period of time. fabio is not good enough, fryers is a kid...that is not a realistic solution. evra is just about shot in his usefulness..so you need to buy time..so you get baines or someone like him

Suprisingly no one agrees with you. We are united we don't look to buy second rate players , you sure ya don't want to support Everton . Sounds more your cup of tea. Evra is club captain and will play large portion this year , he will rotate with one of kids Whoever is playing the best ! or they start shining fergie will drop evra and keep him as back up. What you fail to realise is that our captain is number one choice and would not get displaced automatically by us buying baines only through injuries would this happen. And seen as evra keeps himself injury free so much it's unlikely . Have faith in the club and the coaches !

09 Jun 2012 23:58:41
Apparently we have agreed terms with lewandowski according to the daily star. Their BS is so predictable. Next we will have agreed terms with strootman seen as he's the rumour of the day. Although I do actually wish that one was true as I'd prefer him to m'vila

RR