10 Jun 2018 21:37:34
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Manchester United Banter Archive June 10 2018
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10 Jun 2018 21:02:38
Tbh I don't care how much he cost! it's not my money, if a player of that quality is available I would do what it takes to get him! if we get Toby he will make our team a lot better so let's hope he comes.
10 Jun 2018 21:40:44
Seen far too many people worried about cost recently Cj.
10 Jun 2018 22:13:45
The problem isn’t cost, it’s prioritising where the bulk of our budget should go. For me, and I suspect a few others, the bulk of our remaining budget should go on a top LB and RW. They are areas we simply must strengthen well. Once they are sorted I’d look for a CB.
If however, we were to blow £50-60m or whatever Spurs want on Alderweireld, I’d worry we won’t be able to spend much on those positions which I feel we need strengthened more, or ever worse, we could go into next season with Young and Mata still in the starting 11.
10 Jun 2018 22:21:11
If Young and Valencia start our first game next season heads should roll.
11 Jun 2018 00:52:21
Correct Jazza.
10 Jun 2018 20:27:04
Whos this Mark Wright lad?
Sign him up.
10 Jun 2018 20:51:23
Spent his youth carer at west ham spurs and arsenal. Did play for Southend as well.
He's got a decent cross on him
Over to u Woodward.
10 Jun 2018 21:44:12
Great reception when king Eric came on the pitch.
10 Jun 2018 18:00:24
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, James Tarkowski
10 Jun 2018 16:56:07
I don't know what happened with Liverpool's pursuit of Nabil Fakir but I'm certainly happy he's not going there. Such a good player and would have made them a lot stronger. I hope we could have signed him especially for the reported 50m being suggested.
10 Jun 2018 17:29:04
Very talented player and would have been a great addition for them. Could work in lyon’s favour if he has a great World Cup as it will drive his price up. I still expect him to end up at Liverpool though.
10 Jun 2018 18:37:38
Rumour has it they threw a ball at him and because he caught it the transfer was called off.
11 Jun 2018 00:55:10
To be fair we've signed too many rubbish Fakir's over the last few seasons At United lol.
11 Jun 2018 16:51:13
Disappointed the rags never went with the headline 'Fakir Off! '
10 Jun 2018 15:19:48
Alleged £55m bid submitted for Alderweireld. Levy has responded by saying he wants more. what's everyone's thoughts? Would you pay more than £55m for a 29 year old defender.
10 Jun 2018 15:36:34
No. Not really, due to his fee goes down to £25m next season.
10 Jun 2018 15:42:11
In todays climate, 55 mil for toby is a steal IMO.
10 Jun 2018 15:59:48
No and never esp when we already have 5 centre backs 6 if you throw in tuanzebe. Also don't want to spend all summer negotiating with levy. We have made an offer, he has said no, time to move on .
Someone to play wide right a bigger priority imo.
10 Jun 2018 16:29:22
Toby wpuld be a very good signing for us. We would have 3 definite CBs in bailly, lindelof and toby.
The other CBs, have served us well BUT tbey are not the level we need to progress in the CL for example.
10 Jun 2018 16:41:29
Those claims are now backed up by Belgian paper Het Laatste which suggests a €79.8million deal could be tied up in the coming days.
A clause in Alderweireld’s deal allows him to leave for just £25m next summer, but Mourinho’s determination to land the player and partner him up with Eric Bailly will see the move go ahead imminently.
Thats a report in belgian media today.
10 Jun 2018 16:54:07
If Andy Carrol got sold for 35 mil and Bonnuci for 42 mil then Toby for 50 or 60 mil is a steal in todays inflated market.
10 Jun 2018 17:00:55
If we ge three really good years out of him and he helps make us defensively sound and allows the midfield and attacking players to flourish then it is money well spent. That said I am hesitant about spending that sort of money on a 29 yr old going on 30 Yr old. I would worry that he will have enough pace to keep up with the lightning quick attackers of eg City and Liverpool. I would rather we gave our younger players like Tuanzabe a go first and also Fosu Mensah. If they are not good enough get a top rated 25 or 26 year old.
10 Jun 2018 17:31:50
Anything over 55m is way too much. But then Toby for me is the best cb in the league. He is the sort of experienced head at the back we need. People will point to his injury record but up until this season he has rarely been injured. He was fit for the business end of last season but wasn’t played due to not signing a new contract. Let’s hope we can get it done.
10 Jun 2018 17:40:54
He is one of the best CBs in the Prem, in the conversation of the best. We are Tottengam's rivals, we will have to overpay to get him.
He could well be the missing piece of the jigsaw at the back, someone to build the defense around. A player with experience who is a leader.
If Jose has made him number one priority, get it done Woody!
10 Jun 2018 19:42:41
Thats ridiculous money for a 29yr old. Sorry, i would not want us to get involved at those sort of prices.
And if levy wants martial, then ee should quote him £150m.
10 Jun 2018 20:26:32
Ridiculous.
10 Jun 2018 21:51:28
Could do with recouping some money off rojo, blind etc.
10 Jun 2018 22:42:09
don’t most centre halves come into their prime around 28/ 29 years of age, a little wiser and assured. vida and rio were formidable at that age and bruce and pallister were 35 and 33 before they left us, berg and stam were 29 and 27 when we won the treble.
10 Jun 2018 23:18:24
Paersonally im not at all worried of his cost. Its not my money. i bought numerous united jerseys over the years. i've been to games. I watch the adverts . i've contributed my hard earned shillings. im a consumer of uniteds memorabilia. If this guy gets four years of good defending (minimal cards, injuries, politics off field etc) its modern costs which will be covered by a sleeve or training jersey deal - or a far east or american tour. My money pays for mortgage, schools, petrol like us all regular joes. after that i want united to come back to dominance.
10 Jun 2018 14:11:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Underrated Premier League XI
10 Jun 2018 16:55:09
Ed, I don't think Kante is underrated. All we heard from his time at Leicester was "how much heart he has", "playing with Kante is like playing with 12 players" and then at Chelsea, if I had a drink everytime a commentator said "any team that had Kante in it would win the league" and the other two quotes up above I'd need about 6 liver transplants.
He's an awesome player!
{Ed001's Note - and that was my point. He is that good that even though he is talked up they are still underrating him massively. They only talk about his breaking up play, they completely ignore the fact he is also a very good player on the ball.}
10 Jun 2018 10:30:51
Theres a lad making his debut for a new team tonight at Old Trafford. Eric something. Keep an eye out for him.
10 Jun 2018 09:49:07
In what world does a promising young footballer like Anderson Talisca think or his agent think its a great idea to now move to China? , to play with better players, get better coaching, get in his national team, what message does it send to future employers about ambition and self improvement?
He may not be a world beater if he stays in Europe but surely China is a backward step. apart from the huge money . how sad to not have a family member or ex coach or teacher to sit him down and wise him up.
10 Jun 2018 11:07:57
It’s only a 6 month loan. But yeh I do agree.
10 Jun 2018 12:14:17
This guy will retire at the age of around 35. He's worked very hard since his childhood to be good at only one thing. Why not have some money for when you retire as you never know how things will turn out in the future. Not every player becomes a coach.
10 Jun 2018 12:34:46
A world where we all move for economic reasons. Don’t forget, whilst we’d all love to be pro footballers, many of these lads simply see it is a job like any other. Some move for money, others move for prestige, some are happy where they are. They’re people with their own motivations and priorities in life and they can go to wherever they want.
10 Jun 2018 13:39:17
Because he's paid buttons at Benfica? He probably has enough on the bank to retire now and live more comfortably than most fans.
10 Jun 2018 16:46:44
I don't think you can begrudge anybody a chance to make more money. South Americans tend to come from rather poor back rounds. He probably has a big family and a lot of friends relying on him for a better standard of life.
10 Jun 2018 22:57:28
Maybe there is a strategic reason for him going there for six months. Imagine how valuable he might be in the January transfer window to a champions league team plus he would not be tired out playing as he will be in a second rate league.
10 Jun 2018 05:53:25
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 10th June 2018
10 Jun 2018 08:10:49
Really English plan. Why have we taken more than 2 players? Squad rotation or are we expecting a lot of injuries.? Concussion from our forward heading the ball too much?
10 Jun 2018 02:18:49
A few thoughts on Pogba today:
He had a frustratingly typical game today in the friendly vs the US. A few moments of brilliance, mainly his cross to Giroud in the first half and a fancy nutmeg, but otherwise, often invisible.
But what stands out is that he is not a tempo setting player. Besides his great physical gifts and technical ability, he does have good footballing instincts. But Pogba is not a pass and move player, he rarely surprises the defense with his speed of thought.
He is just so damn good on the ball, that most of the time he doesn't have to bother playing quickly. He thinks he can shield the ball, and turn on most any defender, and most of the time he is right.
The downside is that he is not thinking ahead that well of finding spaces to drift into, and play one touch to a runner. He ends up slowing the game down because he takes so many touches. But all of this is very correctable. He just needs to play in a team that plays more on the front foot, and be given the freedom to play by his instincts more.
10 Jun 2018 06:11:38
Or could it be he likes being centre of attention, likes to admire his work (which can't be denied is sometimes top banana) and probably needs a player to shove a rocket up his jacksee (metaphorically speaking of course) to wake him up, because i reckon he's stealing a living off club and country at the moment, i think he only works to about 60% of his capacity, which is enough to give him some leeway on the hope he gives more, but on the other hand he gives just enough to frustrate even the most forgiving fan, simple solution, get in a bully of a player to educate him or get used to grinding your and counting to 10 again.
10 Jun 2018 06:41:39
He’s clearly talented, imagine him playing alongside Roy Keane. Keane would have scared the pants off him and maybe that’s part of our problem, we don’t have that force of nature in the dressing room that demands players perform. Maybe it’s a different era but we had a lot of players who set very high standards and demanded the same of their team mates.
I like Pogba, I just want him to be the player we think he can be. It’s time for him to step up.
10 Jun 2018 07:20:03
Agree with all that's been said. But especially with what Class posted. I was delighted when we signed Pogba. I thought he was going to be the midfield master that we've been craving for years. However, i think he's a lazy player who does dictate the pace of play but not in the right way, as he slows the pace and does not want to make the surging runs or expend any energy.
I've got to say that I've been hugely disappointed with his attitude and work rate. I posted many months ago that he seems more interested in his hair style and Twitter account than football. And sadly, this is the truth and he does not seem to want to improve as a player. We saw during the 2nd half at City what he can do. But he's got to put the effort in every match for the duration of the match.
Unfortunately, i don't think he'll change and at present he's a passenger in our team. If he insists on playing at half pace and energy, then i can't see him at United for long and frankly i don't want to see him playing for us if he's not that bothered.
10 Jun 2018 08:42:20
AAA exactly my same view.
I really like Pogba and think he can be great and the captain that we need. However he is currently too preoccupied with himself and probably think he is bigger than the club. I hope it’s just only the weather as some people said. But if he continues like this I really think we should move him on and invest on some others.
I really hope Pogba clears his head and start as the senior player that we need. He is skillful and intelligent. I am even fine with his media activities but he need to pull his socks up whilst in the field.
10 Jun 2018 10:01:34
I just think he simply isn't capable, shame.
I'm sure we have all come across people in life that we think if only they could 'focus' they would be incredible at what they do. The fact is people return to type if given the opportunity and football is one of those beasts which allows for a lot of free time and a lot of switching off in that spare time. It's like saying if only that bird I dated didn't turn into a psycho after 2 glasses of wine, but she does and she can't help it! If she won't stop drinking then you just accept it or move her on. We can't afford to accept it, we certainly can't rely on it as it is not in Pogba's nature to be consistent.
Little anecdote - When I was young I played football at a very high standard and all the best players never made it for one reason or another as far as I know, (certainly none at the top levels despite being elite teenagers), mostly to do with commitment levels and when you are young you often get anomalies with growth spurts etc - in fact the best technically and physically gifted player I have ever played with (and seen), would run rings around everyone at 16 and was even making the first team players in training look like mugs when allowed to train with them (some of which were seasoned internationals) . This African kid never actually went on to kick a ball professionally as far as I know, in fact one day he just didn't turn up for training and we didn't see him again. The club were doing everything to get him back but all we were told is that this guy didn't want to play anymore. I don't know if there was more to it or not as he was African and I doubt us kids would have been told the full story - I'm not exaggerating either, the kid was out of this world good!
Pogba will just be another of that long list of players that occasionally give you a Basic Instinct tease, but often revert back to their base instinct, he just doesn't have the umpf in his personality to lead a team, too bothered what other people think and needs too many other things to be perfect for him to perform consistently. Goldilocks player and we don't half the 'just right' formula and he doesn't deserve it anyway as he doesn't seem to have the personality needed to be the top dog.
10 Jun 2018 10:30:00
He put far more effort in last year and was far more disciplined in terms of his defensive duties. Maybe having guys like Zlatan and Wazza in the dressing rooms meant we had the personalities who'd get on his back and he'd listen. Nobody in the squad now would have the balls to confront him. Carrick has the respect of the players but it isn't his style. We used to be blessed with leaders who would fight to the death for the badge. We've replaced players poorly and replaced their personalities dreadfully.
10 Jun 2018 11:10:30
Good post Beast 👍.
10 Jun 2018 12:40:13
Interesting the posts alternate between criticism of the manager and then our players and then repeat. We are coming back, we finished second. Jose Is building a squad of the ashes of the last few years. Lighten up a bit guys!
10 Jun 2018 19:51:52
Agreed 666. If Pogba decides to dedicate his life to football, then he'll be a world beater. Only time will tell.