Manchester United Banter Archive March 10 2018

 

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10 Mar 2018 21:42:58
Just had a quick look on the Liverpool site to see what the general consensus is as I thought we were better first half and saw it out well 2nd half but it appears we only won because of the ref, they were by far the better team and our fans were a disgrace booing when Rashford went off.

The bitterness is brilliant, I work with quite a few scouse fans and I know how much they despise us / are extremely jealous of our success but their inability to accept when we are better than them is great. They thought they would win today and that we would 'Park the bus', something they are obsessed with. I think we have parked the bus once at home this season but don't let that get in the way.

Can't wait for work Monday!

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10 Mar 2018 22:39:42
gds, i have posted the same you must of read my mind.

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10 Mar 2018 22:42:35
Bitter beyond belief. Makes the victory even sweeter.

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10 Mar 2018 22:47:47
according to Emclbelred, one team are on its way up and one just covering cracks. he didn't mention who's who though.

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10 Mar 2018 23:18:10
GDS

I said on live chat as the game ended, even possibly before that, that Liverpool losing would not be down to anything other than the referee, they were robbed. It has happened in the press since the early 70’s, I was there when I think it was Ted McDougal scored but it was never that they deserved to lose just they were always robbed of victory. I can’t believe that no one in the media picks up on this, headlines effectively shout “robbed”, they should have had (insert number of penalties) . Tomorrow they will truly believe they shouldn’t have lost, didn’t lose.

Insert possession stats, means they deserved to win 3-2, people just don’t understand, heavy metal football determines the result, not the number of goals.

How many of these games result in the referee robbed them, it’s so unfair. They are also allowed to say this, march down the touchline and shout it. Next they will demand a meeting with the head of referees to ensure they get penalties they think they deserve, regardless whether it is a penalty or not. It is a state of mind that is not helping them but festers.

In reality we beat the press, instead of being caught in midfield possession allowing them to break on us we lifted it over their press, put pressure on their defence, found the holes, but how could we, it just isn’t football. We must pass it round and allow them to close us down, win the ball back and attack our defence.

By tomorrow we will not have won in the press, it will be a travesty.

We won and that’s it, but people should know you can’t be seen to beat Liverpool.

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10 Mar 2018 23:39:07
Strong win for you guys, gave Liverpool a lesson in cynical football. Liverpool was not in the game from the start, and United tok advantage of that. Very solid defending after 2-0, but if the game was the other way around, you guys would feel the same.

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11 Mar 2018 00:43:47
A lesson in clinical football you mean njoy cynical.

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11 Mar 2018 01:06:08
Stoupid,

If we got absolutely hammered in the first half like you did today i would accept that we gave ourselves too much to do and not try and blame it on some nonsense refereeing decisions.

Absolutely spot on red man, I said it last night to sole Liverpool fans that I was expecting the txt today saying it was all because of the Ref, according to them we have only ever won anything because of decisions we got, absolutely deluded but no talking to them, they genuinely believe it.

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11 Mar 2018 02:11:14
Yeah clinical ofc ( autocorrect ) sry. i'm left with a weird feel, like Liverpool lost to a better team tonight. But i also kinda feel we should have gotten away with a point when you look at all the small things like first goal Lukaku is offside when De Gea hits the ball, agree? Valencia using the arm to stop a low cross into the box, that's to me a clear pen. Or is that just my Liverpool eyes seeing that? Fellaini could have made a pen there ( not saying it is, but its debateable) and Salah could easily have gotten a Pen when Young ( who was outstanding btw ) held him with both arms. But the match as a whole i agree you guys deserved the win.

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11 Mar 2018 03:55:57
Offside goal? Lukaku was not offside when heading the ball, or maybe I watched a different game.

So you wanted three penalties?

Valencia handball, have seen given as a pen by some referees so I can agree, though that brings contradiction.

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11 Mar 2018 04:10:40
The thing is for a lot of Liverpool fans, it's always not their players not performing well or they need to improve everytime they lost a game. It's always the referee is against them, teams are not playing the right tactics.

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11 Mar 2018 04:20:14
Mates if it was done on ManUtd at Anfield not sure how many scousers would come here saying what they are saying. It’s always tinted glasses and plain bitter and sour grapes and never about they being outplayed by tactical class. That’s why Kloppity is now alluding to saying the “bad” style of play from ManUtd. Laughable.
ManUtd fans are hard on our players but will give credit where due. Reason being we have been champion for a long period of time during SAF reign and now starting from scratch with Jose. Jose is not getting a free ride but has done well rebuilding the team.
So I have given up trying to clear the scousers tinted glasses clear. Obviously there are some very good scousers fans but that’s another story.

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11 Mar 2018 08:21:22
Lukaku may well have been in an offside position when De Gea kicked the ball, but you can't be offside from a goal kick so it wouldn't matter.

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11 Mar 2018 08:34:36
Stoupid. the name suits. what have I read above 😂😂.

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11 Mar 2018 09:49:33
Celtic,

Glad someone cleared that one up before I got to read his nonsense, offside from a goal kick, amazing 😂😂😂.

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10 Mar 2018 21:04:34
Fantastic win today. Keeps our position firm in the table for now, and gives confidence for the 2nd leg vs Sevilla.

I am delighted for Rashford. His first goal was absolutely brilliant, and the second was opportunistic. Jose was wise to take him off, as Rash was going all in on the tackles.

Great to see Bailly back, he gives the team a swagger. He made a mistake in the goal, but there he was making diving tackles time and again at the end. He has a confident mentality, which can transmit to those around him.

A lot of players put in a real shift today, Young contained Salah, Valencia won his battles, Smalling was steadier than usual, Matic and McTominay made a lot of tackles and interceptions. Young McTominay played like a veteran today. Job done, no fuss.

Lukaku was a difference maker up top, too much for Lovren to handle. Mata was effective throughout, with his good movement and tracking back, and nearly a beauty! Sanchez was frustrating often, but fought until the end. And that's all you can ask for. Jose and the boys will be proud tonight.

Two best moments:
1- Rashford's opener
2- Bailly's pirouette

Bring on Sevilla.

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11 Mar 2018 04:25:45
Z exactly how I feel. Taking Rash off means giving him rest for next CL game and not risking any potential injuries from bitter Lovren and Milner tackles. Can see that towards the last part of 2nd half when they realized they were totally outplayed even after we console them with a gifted goal to help save face 🤣🤣.
Read Frank De Boer criticizing Jose about Rash being subbed. Laughable from someone who can’t even keep his position in Palace yet dare to whimper and criticize. He should shut up and pray about his own management career.

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10 Mar 2018 20:58:03
McTom, Young, Rashford all excellent, Bailly was solid despite his worldie, glad he's back, even when Fellaini came on he made a difference and got us a foothold. Good desire from the whole team and good tactics and subs by Jose. Funny old game isn't it, same display as at Anfield really but cz we scored from 2 shots we get praise, away we was slaughtered, 4 points off the much praised Liverpool, not to be sniffed at.

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10 Mar 2018 23:41:39
I thought Matic and Lukaku was massive for you guys today also.

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11 Mar 2018 01:01:59
Lukaku was excellent - best game I have seen from him for Man U so far. Growing into the ‘Drogba’ type CF Mourinho loves. Ways to go of course to be quite that good but he’s got it in him and he’s 24!

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11 Mar 2018 07:40:50
See no mention of Pogba

Who?

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10 Mar 2018 20:21:02
Great win tonight. Fellaini almost gave away a penalty and that's the reason I'm happy he's leaving. Sometime back people were debating on how if Rashford should be sold, and ofcourse his performances were not upto the point but today he showed his quality. Everyone keeps talking about how we need midfielders and defenders but I just we had someone like martial or rashford for the right side. Someone who can take on a defender with speed and trickery. It's been years since we had any threat going forward from the right side. A good winger will also help in pinning back the opposition LB. Right now the other teams fullbacks are getting too much freedom against us. But today already there was a fear in their RB because of Rashford which also let Salah isolated against Young who did a good job. When Sanchez arrived my first thought was that maybe he'll play there and he actually can do the job over there.

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10 Mar 2018 21:23:23
I hope the wig stays . Plan but and all that 😆😆.

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10 Mar 2018 21:48:46
Fellani did very well when he came on. He got stuck in to them, great heart that fella.
If he does go I will wish him the very best.

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10 Mar 2018 22:42:44
Wig did mess up but thankfully didn't cost us, but he does a job and has done so many times in some important games.

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11 Mar 2018 10:47:53
I can't feel the love for fellaini. I just don't think he's the kind of player I want in my team. But credit where its due, the guy knows he isn't loved, but still works his ass off and does the job asked of him. He's very professional and when he leaves I wish him nothing but success.

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10 Mar 2018 20:15:41
We had one moment of good fortune when Van Dijk missed a great chance at the near post from a corner when the score was 1-0, and we had one moment of bad luck when Bailly contrived to score an o. g, but beyond that we were the ones who created by far the best chances. Had Mata scored when wide open the game could have been a stroll.

Frankly I was quite surprised how easily we shut down the mighty Liverpool offense which everyone knows is the best in the world. All I can say is that our defence must be pretty darned good given how much those guys are hyped by the Liverpool fans and the press.

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10 Mar 2018 20:28:42
Played well today good defensive performance.
But shows how goals make a difference . we had 2 shots on target today 1 a deflection .

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10 Mar 2018 21:34:34
Watched the game without knowing result. This is the type of game Jose is meant for. Got a 2 goal lead and made us very hard to break down, an exceptional defensive performance which was probably necessary. Made Liverpool look very ordinary indeed, which is very impressive considering we hunkered down and prepared for the barrage early on. I'd be very angry as a Liverpool fan at how little they offered going forward.

Good job Rash had his shooting boots on today, good team performance on the whole - I imagine this one gave Jose immense satisfaction and sets us up well for Sevilla.

But still awful attacking as a team, we fortunately were pretty clinical today but this was a defensive masterclass and a valuable 3 points. Exactly the type of thing Ken was talking about the other day, players doing exactly as the manager wanted and it working out. Happy with this against Liverpool, wouldn't be against a team like Brighton though!

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10 Mar 2018 22:52:03
Yeah same amount as at anfield. But there was more attacking intent today which you would exoect at home.

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11 Mar 2018 00:47:36
Yeah beast exactly what i was talking about yesterday and lo and behold those saying i was talking nonsense are praising the exact thing today.
Ill give you one thing beast you are consistent and true to your opinions your no fence sitter mate. 😂😂.

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10 Mar 2018 20:07:35
For me Pogba can can stay on the bench for a few weeks, might be the kick in
The arse he needs.

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10 Mar 2018 18:06:56
Absolutely delighted with the result. Everyone knew we would sit back in the second half as they can’t break down teams who sit deep. Jose had everthing spot on.

I was at the game today and on the whole the fans were brilliant. Just disappointing that some resorted to some terrible chants aimed at the Liverpool fans.

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10 Mar 2018 18:27:30
It’s the one day of the year I feel ashamed to be a United fan.

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10 Mar 2018 18:54:51
Best game at OT all season for me, but the murderer chants are bang out of order when there are some really witty scouse chants, other than that what a atmosphere 👌.

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10 Mar 2018 19:03:32
It really is a shame. We’re 2 nil up and have fans shouting “Murderers”. Not just one or two fans but half the stadium. Just watch the match! Ridiculous.

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10 Mar 2018 19:24:04
That is bang out of order.

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10 Mar 2018 19:25:19
Mate iv lost my voice and I'm as loud as hell! But i just look at the ground when the murderer chant is sung. Some of my fellow supporters disappoint me. A few were shouting it outside the quadrant before the game absolute 🔔 ends.

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10 Mar 2018 20:48:38
I was surrounded by thousands in the East Stand chanting it mate. Absolute knobs. Really does bring shame to what is a great result.

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11 Mar 2018 07:22:33
The clib ask fans to stop singing about Lukaku’s
manhood but ignore half the stadium chanting murderers.

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10 Mar 2018 16:52:39
Ashley Young has broken his washing machine. He washed his kit but had forgotten to take Salah out of his pocket.
Seriously though thought he was excellent.

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10 Mar 2018 18:06:25
He was exceptional today and I think some of the stick he has been getting is totally unfair and because people seem to be desperate for Luke Shaw to play despite the fact he’s clearly overweight again.

Wonder if Beast has woke up and watched that yet, we are a good side at home, not lost to anyone except city in 26 months in all comps now. I actually think if Jose can find a formula for playing away at the big teams we aren’t too far off to be honest.

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10 Mar 2018 18:14:03
Gds he gets stick because people want to buy a big name . Plus we have to blame someone.

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10 Mar 2018 18:31:19
I thought fellani did a job when he came on.

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10 Mar 2018 18:56:52
Fellaini did very well considering the who we were playing and the lack of game time he's had.

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10 Mar 2018 16:50:53
That's why Jose wins trophies everywhere he goes and that's why krusty the clown in the Liverpool dugout doesn't. But more on that later.

First off, the build up over the last few days has made for very interesting reading/ viewing. I'm a fan of all the banter pages this great site has to offer but after the United site I spend a lot of time reading the Liverpool page. If you were to take their views as gospel, this game was going to be like Brazil 82 against Scunthorpe. Evil Emperor Jose and his band of Anti-Footballers were going to get struck down by the footballing gods that are Liverpool. This wasn't your normal rose tinted glasses bias. This was a new form that only Liverpool fans could get too. They convinced themselves that we were a championship level team. They convinced themselves that all they had to do was turn up. They created this false sense of security that any result other than a 4-0 for Liverpool would suffice.

And who could blame them when Sky sports were getting their narrative in early. Yesterday they interviewed Mike Phelan and spent the 4 minutes asking how United would cope with Mane, Firminho and Salah. They then interviewed Aldridge and asked him how good the attacking three at Liverpool were. Do you see the pattern?

The media darlings that are City, Spurs and Liverpool in my opinion get a free ride when anything goes wrong. We don't. And that's fine by me.

This was a fantastic performance.
If it wasn't for a freak OG and a few nerves at the end we would have cruised to the final whistle. This is were Jose earns his bread. Set up perfectly. The first 45 minutes we should have been out of sight but were really good value for the 2-0 at the break. Man to man we were better. McT and Matic were immense in the middle. Bailey was an absolute monster at the back. Lukaku was fantastic and Rashford for clinical. Maybe Sanchez was the only one not firing on all cylinders but he worked his socks off.

I said at the start that's why Jose wins trophies and Klopp doesn't. The ability to adapt to your opponent, to exploit weaknesses, to know when to attack and when to sit deep. That's the mark of a great manager and we have one in charge of our club. Sometimes we shouldn't worry about the opposition and play our own game, I do get that, but if we can add the ruthlessness up front then we'll go toe to toe with anyone.

Long story short, iv seen the debates about pragmatism vs style. Win ugly or lose in a blaze of glory. I don't think they're mutually exclusive. This was men against boys today, maturity vs naivety. I have no doubt Jose is the man to bring the good times home to Old Trafford.

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10 Mar 2018 17:00:15
Good post mumbles I enjoyed reading that pal.

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10 Mar 2018 17:16:43
Good post Mumbles. Enjoyed reading.

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10 Mar 2018 17:21:46
Confidence is one thing but the Liverpool fans on their page were incredibly arrogant, thinking they were going to smash us to pieces with their 'heavy metal football'. All they do is annihliate Jose and Utd for 'parking the bus', guess there's only way one way of playing football, the same fans probably praise Allegri and Juventus for their style of play!

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10 Mar 2018 18:00:21
Partners Dad is a liverpool fan, and I asked him if he would like to win the Champions League playing defensively or losing playing attacking entertaining football.

You know which he chose.

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10 Mar 2018 19:43:12
Dejan Lovren and everything was sticking the boot in before the match about how we play. The arrogance around the club made an awful footballer take the stage and grab the mic and say United "win ugly". Makes the win all that sweeter.

I love those performances were the opposition thinks they were hard done by but in fact were well beaten!

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10 Mar 2018 23:09:18
Mumbles you are spot on. Really good post agree with all of that.

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10 Mar 2018 16:37:33
As we celebrate a great victory over Liverpool, and perhaps shut up their fans for a few hours at least, spare a thought for poor David Moyes.

Not given a fair shot here, same at Sociedad, then Sunderland couldn't match his ambition, and now West Ham fans are disrupting his game plans and nicking the corner flags. Can't they see that his five defenders and two defensive mids are just getting used to the system.

Save the chosen one!

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10 Mar 2018 16:48:27
Brilliant Danny. Remember he gave us Lionel Fellaini. I think he's just unlucky 😂😂.

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10 Mar 2018 17:15:21
😂😂on a day that we beat the scouse and everyone played well at least we have moyes to have a dig at.

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10 Mar 2018 16:22:08
It's abundantly evident to me that Lukaku is absolutely fundamental to the way we want to play. (Especially in the big games) .

When he makes the ball stick we're a totally different proposition.

Our performances against the better teams are predominantly based around good defensive shape and organisation. Jose has built his career around having a game plan and stopping the opposition. Why would that suddenly change because he's now the Utd manger?

In the big games it's paramount that Lukaku is the spearhead of our attack and he is able to hold the ball up. When he is unable to do this we simply struggle to build any kind of momentum.

Let's be brutally honest there wasn't much difference between the L'pool away performance and this afternoon (apart from the result of course) .

The game plan was exactly the same.

At Anfield Lukaku was poor, he couldn't hold the ball and we looked totally impotent as an attacking threat. It was a similar story today. Lukaku was able to have some success holding the ball in the first half from which we scored our goals. L'pool couldn't handle him but I don't think he did enough in the second half and we were forced to defend for our lives.

I am starting to see two different Utd sides emerge under Jose. One team against the so called lesser sides where we need Pogba's creativity in midfield in order to break them down. We have more of the ball therefore are less reliant on Lukaku and we desperately need Pogba's power and creativity. Against our rivals we need a more disciplined and defensive partner alongside Matic and Lukaku's role becomes critically important. (I can see absolutely no reason why Pogba can't just sit next to Matic in these games and adapt his game to the situation. He has all the attributes but he now needs to become less selfish and more of a team player) .

Jose builds all his teams in a similar way with Drogba and Costa fulfilling very similar roles for him in the past.

Despite Lukaku's size and strength I'm still not convinced this is his natural game but I think he's slowly accepted that this role is crucial to the team and he's been much better recently.

Jose is brilliant at winning football matches and he doesn't care less if it's not particularly pretty or pleasing to the eye and neither should we.

Let's not be fooled by the beautiful football rhetoric coming out of Liverpool or Spurs at the moment. Only City can rightfully gloat and have been able to produce that kind of stuff on any consistent basis.

Maybe the only way we will be able to truly judge the Jose era is to count up the trophies after he's gone. If he brings success nobody will remember the football anyway.

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{Ed004's Note - I think this assessment is spot on of our current side. It's worth pointing out that it is working as well. Even before today we had the second best record in the top 6 mini league table}

10 Mar 2018 16:51:02
Absolutely over the moon with the win though Ed.

If I didn't have three young kids I'd be out in Town tonight celebrating. At least I can get through the rest of the night watching Peppa Pig with a spring in my step! I wouldn't have it any other way and nights out these days are overrated anyway right?

Roll on Tuesday now which I think has the potential to be a very dangerous game.

There still aren't many better feelings than a Utd win no matter how it comes.

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10 Mar 2018 16:59:42
Lukaku is what we were missing last season or that type of player .
He has got better and better through out the season .
He has always been a, a on the shoulder striker but he is starting to look more and more like a target man .
As for creativity don't forget Sanchez, I think that may well be his role.

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10 Mar 2018 17:20:09
Imagine when Sanchez picks up again and clicks with Pogba? Lethal front and solid midfield. Mctominay and Matic solidifying partnership. Bailly back nd Smalling back to his best with Jones and Lindelof backing up?
Start salivating.

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10 Mar 2018 17:24:44
Yeah I agree Jred enjoy your evening mate.

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10 Mar 2018 15:25:07
The Bus was parked and Liverpool were still hit by it.

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10 Mar 2018 16:11:09
Was the bus parked? We targeted the weak points in their defence, lovren an Arnold, scored. Their attack struggles to break down defences that sit deep an don't leave space for them to run into.

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10 Mar 2018 16:33:28
I was being sarcastic.

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10 Mar 2018 17:03:27
Fair enough. Sarcasm doesn't really work in text form.

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10 Mar 2018 17:22:28
Mort we have a turbo charged parked bus which occasionally speeds off for a while and back to park 🤣🤣🤣. Jose personally drives this turbo charge bus.

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10 Mar 2018 14:53:50
To the tune brimful of asha - "A braceful from Rashford and the gap is five" 😁.

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10 Mar 2018 14:38:07
Good game that especially for a United scouse game .
Back 4 excellent today get a lot of stick for some reason but we don't conced many.
Backed up very well by a proper cm performance from mc Tom and matic . very impressed with mc Tom for a number of reasons today .
But we looked solid . Great player pogba but in the epl you can't carry a player in cm . Got a challenge on his hands now might be what he needs. Give him a bit of a kick .
Rash showed what he can do and lukaku is a big part of how we play .

Good team performance today, never going to be one way traffic against the scouse good team, good attacking team but that was a good team performance from United.

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10 Mar 2018 14:52:30
Agree Jred - in addition thought the organisation of midfield and defense proved pivotal- been raving about mctominay for a while showing great promise . Rashfords finishing with Lukakus aerial threat and general play a good sign. Sanchez still not hitting the dizzy heights expected but hopefully he will and he didn't give the ball away as much today.

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10 Mar 2018 14:52:43
Rashford very good, it has probably done him good to sit on the bench as he was very clinical today usually he just boots the ball from anywherr and evrerywhere.

Mctoimnay had a better game today but sont think he wouldve played had Pogba been available.

Sanchez looks like he was trying too much again but he certainly had one of his better games.

Smalling doesn't fill me with confidence.

Young played well defensively and that is the reason he is keeping out Shaw because of his discipline.

Valencia had a good game.

Matic was a beast in the middle.

Lukaku is becoming a fan favourite he really is learning a lot of other attributes suchh as holding the ball up and passing it to team mates.

Id also say Mata played well he does evrything really well but doesn't get noticed, he shouldve really scored that goal but i don't think he knew he was that open with the ball.

All in all very good game, Liverpool couldve easily drew the game had they got the penalty decisions their way and Van Dijk scored his header.

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10 Mar 2018 14:59:05
I thought Sanchez was the only real disappointment today.

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10 Mar 2018 14:59:34
There were no penalties Singh, if those are called penalty worthy fouls then we will have 5 pens every game.

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{Ed004's Note - Exaclty, and the only reason they 'are' penalties is because the abu media will highlight them at every opportunity}

10 Mar 2018 15:01:49
Gets a lot of stick smalling but I don't think he does a lot wrong .
He has a few faults as do an awful lot of cbs .
But good in the air good in the tackle.

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10 Mar 2018 15:11:01
Agreed guys its soft but it couldve been given and our defenders need to be careful because if they do that against Sevilla then we could be done for the season.

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10 Mar 2018 15:18:11
Smalling did well today but he is a liability. His distribution is atrocious and it gets us in trouble as the team has to play deeper to compensate. Bailly is our only to notch defender and we're blessed with the top goalkeeper in the game. If we're to challenge for the league we need at least another top CB and LB.

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10 Mar 2018 15:18:14
I thought Matic was poor with his distribution. He got tackled quite abit by keeping on the ball too long.
He did play well and made some important interceptions.
If Mata has scored, that would have been game over.

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10 Mar 2018 15:18:59
Great win, Big 3 points.

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10 Mar 2018 15:25:14
I really enjoyed Lukaku’s performance. He is growing into a very complete footballer and leader. It was great to see a younger player and in his debut season shouting at and directing his teammates.

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10 Mar 2018 15:30:55
Smalling is not there for his distribution. Neither was vidic .
He is there to win the ball and he does that well . Not pretty but it is effective.

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10 Mar 2018 15:26:46
Sorry Singh but other than young one others couldn't even be called soft, what is Valencia supposed to do cut his hands off to play football because that's the only way he makes sure the ball doesn't hit his hand, the fellaini foul was on fellaini not by fellaini, he gets there first and holds off mane, if that's a foul then football will have to be a non touch sport. Even the young holding Salah was brilliantly done, he holds him off but the hand holding Salah is the side which ref can't see.

Ed004 it's really funny seeing sourness go all salty, poor guy wants his beloved Liverpool to be given all 3 points because they had more possession. Also apparently they should have had 5 pens with plays like Bailly marshalling milner out of our box being stone wall pen.

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{Ed004's Note - The only decision I think we got fortunate on today was Valencias booking but that couldve went either way. The referee was very lenient with cards because there was more than one occasion the likes of Lovren etc shouldve gotten bookings. Also if Jose had acted like Klopp he would have been watching from the stands}

10 Mar 2018 15:56:01
Jred if you think defenders are exempt from being able to pass the ball then we obviously see the game very differently. I can support Smalling for the effort he puts in but I'm making a point about why we're so poor in possession and have to ride our luck a bit in games like this.

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10 Mar 2018 16:14:56
ED004 I was sat with my Dad and said the same thing. Lovren got away with two tackles in the sixes of 10 seconds.
Arnold should have had a yellow as well and Can.

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{Ed004's Note - But that doesn't fit the narrative of the referee favouring united so it won't be mentioned}

10 Mar 2018 17:04:16
Donred
I don't think that's smalling role in the team, and don't think we are poor in possession due to smalling .
He has been going about his job well of late imo .
Lindelof is a good passer of the ball it was no surprise smalling got the nod today .
I thought smalling played well today, had some very good games of late .

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10 Mar 2018 17:22:29
I don't want to pick on Smalling but there's an obvious correlation between being poor in possession and having players that are poor in possession! We have very clear deficiencies and having too many players that are not comfortable in the ball is, perhaps, the most glaring. We won't challenge for the league unless that is addressed.

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10 Mar 2018 17:38:56
Donred
Ok pal .

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10 Mar 2018 14:31:03
I ain't complaining about any performance. One hell of a game. Edge of the seat stuff.

That was what Rash should be doing more often. I loved it.

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10 Mar 2018 14:38:48
Rash showed the potential he has .

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10 Mar 2018 14:43:32
Not so much out thought today, but definitely out fought and out played. Best team won.
Hard lines for Sanchez though, clearly going for worse performance but Mane won that with ease.

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10 Mar 2018 14:49:21
I thought that should have gone to Salah. Or was it more to do with how brilliant Young was today?

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10 Mar 2018 14:56:00
Young was very good today. He got lucky with the foul on Salah in the box, but apart from that he dealt with him very well.

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10 Mar 2018 14:59:53
Just wondering how long until the, " you never get a penalty at Old Trafford" etc posts from Kop posters. Sad really. Mourinho got his tactics spot on. Some class defending on show. Shame about the own goal because Bailly was immense. Liverpool played to our strengths really. They were very narrow.
Also Rashford and Mctominay, that meant everything to them, was great to see.

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10 Mar 2018 15:00:12
I'd say that was more to do with how well Young played as u say, and not for the first time this season. It's a shame Young has been such a cheat through the years because it's taking away from the fact he's been such a reliable LB for so long.

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10 Mar 2018 16:57:38
I did say yesterday that Young will play well. Great win.

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10 Mar 2018 14:28:08
I thought McTominay was excellent.

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10 Mar 2018 13:50:36
We need to get control of this game. I think if Liverpool get one we will get nervous and sit deep which will probably result in them getting another.

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10 Mar 2018 14:33:26
Well looks like I was nervous for nothing. Thought Fellaini did well when he came on. Did the ugly things well and helped break up Liverpool’s play. Young Mctominay did well today. Young and rashford were fantastic.

Good tactics Jose, we looked like we had lost control in the 2nd half, Bailey felt charitable and showed Liverpool how to score but ultimately it was a good game and I enjoyed watching it. Not always the case over the last few years.

Can’t wait to hear the Liverpool excuses after all the rubbish they have been posting on our page.

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10 Mar 2018 13:23:50
The 1st time I've been to this game it's ****ing amazing 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁.

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10 Mar 2018 13:19:20
Look much better when we take the game to them. Lukaku totally bullying there defence. There defence is pony.

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10 Mar 2018 11:35:22
Not a lot of change bailly is back which is good lindelof drops out after a shaky performance .
Good attacking intent with rash in there I think Sanchez could play 10 .
I like the shape on paper let's see how it plays out.

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10 Mar 2018 11:56:07
There's not much wrong with that team given the injuries.

Pogba out could be a blessing in disguise.

He's been poor recently and terrible in the big games we miss him more against the lesser teams when we need his creativity. I actually think we need him more for the Seville game.

Matic and Mctominay will just hold and play as a unit shielding the back 4.

Hopefully Mata can knit everything together and Sanchez can be more of an influence today. We will see.

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10 Mar 2018 09:54:24
No martial or pogba with the squad this morning looks like both are out.

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10 Mar 2018 10:01:01
Tough afternoon ahead. I would take a draw.

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10 Mar 2018 10:51:28
A win could cement 2nd so that’s got to be the aim.

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10 Mar 2018 10:55:30
Let's beat them In the face of adversity. If pogba had played as he has for last few weeks we won't miss him. I hope both get a rest and are available for tue.
They are not available forget about them and hope the next man in shines.

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10 Mar 2018 11:01:07
Agree WRD win is always the aim but if the injuries are true then draw isn’t the worst result.

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10 Mar 2018 11:10:16
To be honest finishing 2nd or 4th I couldn’t really care less as I see it as you don’t finish first it’s a failure. Obviously I want to beat the mickeys but it’s not a life or death match. The mickeys will have you believe so if they win. Coming 2nd to them is the new league title. Remember boys 28 years and counting.

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10 Mar 2018 12:09:36
Thats pretty fair Blackpool.

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10 Mar 2018 12:13:45
Blackpool you have said the truth and enlightened everybody. Scousers trying to make a big deal out of this and I tend to agree more with you.
Important is that at the worst we draw. If we win great but I won’t be much bothered if Jose parked the bus. So what?

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Premier League Match Preview Saturday 10th March 2018

10 Mar 2018 06:17:29
{Ed's Note - Tris Burke has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Preview Saturday 10th March 2018

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10 Mar 2018 06:33:37
Good read Tris. In terms of the Liverpool game I think this will polarise opinions on Jose again today. We started the season scoring freely yet went to Anfield against a Liverpool team that looked a little shaky and yet we set up very defensively. That was a turning point and we then started to struggle.

Against City at home I thought we set up ok but just couldn’t get the ball off them. It will be fascinating to see how today goes. I wouldn’t be surprised to see 3 CBs and 2 sitting CMs with the full backs asked to play further forward, this would leave us the option of 3 more central attacking players all running at the Liverpool CBs.

I shall wait to see who we pick, and how we play before digging a hole for myself.

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{Ed001's Note - I would have thought it would be a mistake to go 3 at the back against a front 3, as it can leave them one-on-one at times. Liverpool have looked more threatening when facing a back 3 all season.}

10 Mar 2018 07:32:22
I take your po Nt. it if he sticks Matic back there and even McTom then it becomes a solid wall. To be honest Ed I’ve not seen a United formation that has looked like one we should stick with all season. Despite all the spending we still look like a collection of invidividuals, many of whom are not playing to their potential. The good new I guess is that if we can find a formation that works, there is still a lot of scope for us to get much better.

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{Ed001's Note - not good news for everyone else though.}

10 Mar 2018 08:35:47
Indeed, I wonder how much better Liverpool, Spurs, and City can play. Spurs seemed to have peaked for me, hopefully City will flag from Pep’s intensity next year and as for your lot, I guess if you sort the defence and keeper out then you just need to keep the forwards firing. Wouldn’t it be good to have a four way fight next year?

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{Ed001's Note - much better mate, be better if every team stopped waving the white flag for City, they are not as good as their points total has made them look.}

10 Mar 2018 09:03:23
Just imagine DDG as Gk for Liverpool the points he would save would have them well clear of us at least.

On that note who in your view is the best keeper right now ed1? I think DDG is the best but doesn't seem to get acknowledgement outside England.

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{Ed001's Note - de Gea for me right now.}

10 Mar 2018 09:16:53
I do not want to imagine that Deep. Horrible thought.

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10 Mar 2018 09:44:04
DDG has made 2 saves this year that were as good as Banks’s Pele save and whilst they got some attention at the time, I think they didn’t get anough coverage.

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10 Mar 2018 09:47:48
I see klopps made a fool of himself again. The comment about if Jose doesn't win trophies then question his style. Forgetting of course what Jose won last year not to mention over his career when klopps own medal collection looks somewhat anaemic. Don't you get embarrassed Ed?

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{Ed001's Note - why would I get embarrassed? He is right, if Jose does not continously win trophies then his style has to be called into question. It is meant to be an entertainment, he is not providing entertainment, so he has to keep providing trophies. I would be more embarrassed if my manager was constantly publicly slagging off my own team's players, but there you go, I guess you would rather pick at things that most people on here have said exactly the same as.}

10 Mar 2018 09:55:47
Looks like no Pogba today. No Herrera either. I'm not sure how the midfield is going to look today. Is Fellaini fit? Carrick?
Jose could be forced into actually playing a more attacking formation by default.
I really hope Bailly can play.

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10 Mar 2018 10:08:54
De Gea's save last week from Benteke was unbelievable. It left me shaking my head. He just keeps getting better. Incredible player. Amazing to think the criticism he took when he first arrived. So strong mentally. World no.1? Absolutely in my opinion.

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10 Mar 2018 10:39:18
I don't see anything wrong in what Klopp said to be fair. As long as Jose keeps on winning trophies he will be okay if it stops him from winning then people will naturally question his tactics.

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10 Mar 2018 11:58:07
Point is though Jose has been winning trophies. Two last year. What's Klopp won?

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10 Mar 2018 12:11:54
Spot in singh. It was a bank handed compliment to jose really.

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Review Of The Day 10th March 2018

10 Mar 2018 06:06:27
{Ed's Note - Tris Burke has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 10th March 2018

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