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11 Apr 2013 21:11:05
Can anybody confirm Mario Gotze's release clause? I've tried search to no avail : (
Luke Chadwicks Love Child {Ed002's Note - Hardly surprising.}
Bit harsh.
40 million Euros I believe.
Shahram
11 Apr 2013 23:45:51
I know everybody thinks Strooman is the man for us. But I want a different Dutch midfielder at the club. I have watched him in his last 3 appearances for the Dutch National Team and noticed a few stories linking him with us. Jordy Clasie. Box-to-box player, likes the physical side of the game, composed on the ball, good range of passing and young with time to develop. Would be going cheap for around £8 million I would think and it would be a steal. Not to mention the "Dutch Xavi's" idol is RVP.
RedKnight
He's a very good young player, but if we were to sign him then I definately think we'd need to sign another more defensive midfielder. Clasie is more a playmaker and it's his passing and vision which are his strongest assets. We need someone who is defensively soild, someone who's positioning cuts out opposition chances, someone with drive and steel. If we sign Strootman then he ticks all the boxes and although i'd still like to see us sign two midfielders if just Strootman came in I could live with that.
But if Strootman decideds to go else where or his price tag gets too pricey then maybe Jordy Clasie could be an option, although I would say it would be vital to sign someone like Wanyama with him.
Clasie is exactly what we need next to Carrick, but also one bigger and stronger midfielder more defensive minded. My two choices: Wanyama (we all know he's a beast) or Matić (incredible player, I watch him regularly, good vision, good tackling and incredible passing game)
12 Apr 2013 08:42:32
Clasie is nowhere near as good as Strootman, hence why the latter is thw vice captain of the Netherlands team, while the former has barely got a game.
We need Strootman. Clasie would be a great signing imo and is better than Cleverley atm, but he is still young, inexperienced, and not exactly what we need. He has great potebtial and might go on to become as good as Strootman, but he is not ready yet to be a first teamer here.
Mick
Another cheap option then.
He is nowhere near as good as Kevin Strootman.
Simmo
Simmo, judging by your comment, you'd think SAF himself had come out and said he wanted Claise, rather than a poster on this site.
Do you know something we don't?
Sign them BOTH.
and 1 of Gotze/Isco/Rodriguez
Would be what we need.
StevieK
What are you going on about. I am rsponding to the original post by RedKnight.
Simmo
Fair enough mate - thought it was a dig at SAF without any evidence that he was even looking at Claise.
Apologies
11 Apr 2013 23:05:39
Rvp or falcoa {Ed004's Note - On current form and due to age probably Falcao but he's the best striker in the world atm. Maybe a better question is Falcao, Rooney or Gotze and Lewandowski?}
ED004 he is only good when he plays upfront alone, In the past few months since Diego Costa has been playing he has struggled badly if we were to spend £45-50 Mil on a striker I would much rather we buy Cavani.
RED91 {Ed004's Note - Cavani looks like he would cost more and he would play up top on his own. RVP would play in the hole with Kagawa and Rodriguez beside him IMO but this is all theoretical and IMO won't happen}
Falcao like Rvp has been off form last couple of month
Lew, Rvp, or Falcao I see kags Rooney gotze as different types if players edd. {Ed004's Note - No I mean if Rooney is sold I reckon it would be Falcao or possibly a double signing of Lewandowski and Gotze which would be fantastic tbh}
Edd 004
Very unlikely but
. Falcao
Kags. rvp. roo
Just because Falcao is such a good player a and I would love to see him at ot {Ed004's Note - Would rather Gotze, Rodriguez etc instead of Rooney out wide}
I don't see how people can say "he is only good if he plays up front alone"? I have seen a few posts saying as much today but people fail to see that he is yet to play upfront with a top quality strike partner. Falcao has never played with the likes of RVP. In response to Ed004's question, I would rather Goetze and Lewandowski to Falcao.
TK-Red
12 Apr 2013 07:49:27
Falcao played very well aspart of a front three at porto. I'm not saying these rumours have any base to them. But hypothetically you could play a front three of Welbeck Falcao and RvP, that way we wouldn't need to sign a winger just a midfielder or two. You could then have a midfield three of say Carrick Strootman with Kagawa playing between them and the forward line. Sell Rooney Nani and Anderson, and then you should have enough money to sign Strootman and Wanyama as well. Imagin that team.
Falcao will be great, and personally, I don't want us to sell anyone. But I think saf might be tempted to sell Rooney.
Rvp and falcao will make an incredible paring, but we need to play the right system and get the right midfielders to feed them.
I think strootman and either modric or classie will be a dream.
Nomidfield
Shappy
Local lad and runs around a lot, but Welbeck is absolutely PANTS, how you think he can be a part of a Falcao and RVP top 3 is beyond me. He will end up goofing up most of the moves or trip on himself when sent clear by the other two. Wont find me criticizing or asking for x why z to be sold, but he would be the 1st United player I would want sold. Even before Nani. If Welbeck was playing for Sunderland, what would you say?
Deeps.
Deeps
He is only 22 and will be great in 5 years:) on a serious note I agree with what you say and the only reason he is useful is because he is like a utility forward that is better defensively than offensively. 2 goals from 26 games is a pathetic return by any measure.
He has a role at the moment because he offer us some defensive cover in the midfield playing as a winger. The only reason that is happening is because we are woefully short in midfield and once that is sorted if he does not improve offensively he will see a lot of bench time and eventually get shipped out to a mid table premiere league team.
Shahram
12 Apr 2013 13:10:03
With Falcao and RvP upfront then we would have plenty of goals, Welbeck adds the work rate, he is also good at holding up and linking play. In an ideal world we'd sign a world class player to play there instead, but we've signed Zaha who would take that position in a year or twos time. So Welbeck would play there as a free stop gap, and if he fulfils his pontential and becomes a top player while playing then all the better.
All young players need to have a difficult season to make them, Welbeck is having a tougher time this year then he had last year. Remember Evans last year? Now he's probably our most consistant defender. Don't be too quick to write off our academy players. They may just suprise you.
I am not quite writing him off on a performance or two. I have never frankly rated him. He is still useful as Shahram said as a defensive winger and a squad player. His return is woeful. I would close my eyes and keep Hernandez if there was a choice. I have watched Welbeck since when he was 18, I think he has gone down the slope. His finishing was actually better back then.
Talking about the reserves/academy players, at the risk of starting a debate, I always thought that Rossi and Ravel would be special players. Look at Ravel now and I really feel bad, the lad was special. From the current crop, the ones that are on the verge, I still think Petrucci is the one! Hope he kicks on.
Deeps.
It's 2 goals in 35 in all comps for welbeck which is incredibly poor considering the positions he gets into, but he's 22 I'd give him another 2 seasons before a definant judgement is made on him.
DHK
11 Apr 2013 22:20:06
Thinking about the Falcao news (In which Hernandez would be traded), I am not sure I want to lose Hernandez. Mostly for the following reasons:
1. Falcao would definitely not be happy sitting on the bench in as many games as Hernandez has!
2. Hernandez brings something different to the table in terms of pace and sheer poaching and finishing ability, his goals this season have been much needed.
3. How would they (RVP, Rooney and Falcao) fit into a team?
4. What would happen with welbeck? In my opinion he has not done enough in his United career to warrant a place ahead of Hernandez, He is clumsy and his end product is quite awful. He does hold the ball up well at times but can be immature with his play.
5. Final point does not refer to Hernandez but to the fact money spent on Falcao would be much better spent on a decent midfielder.
James.
James you do realize Falcao if ever signed would be our no 1 striker and ahead of RVP and Rooney right?
BTW I don't believe it personally and would be shocked if it ever happened.
But hey we are all bored waiting for the stoke game, so might as well entertain ourselves with all the what if's lol
Shahram
I don't think we'd have to worry about Falcao sitting on the bench if we spend the figures it will take to get him! I'm confident he won't be coming to OT anyway, if anyone up front, Lewandowski is far more likely.
I agree that Hernandez is a great option to have in our squad, don't really want to lose him but if we do sign Big Lew it may unfortunately be inevitable.
Shahram something tells me we'll be bored during the Stoke game too
At this stage, I don't care if we're bored, as long as we win against stoke!
I get a feeling that if falcao comes, then Rooney might be sold.
Falcao, rvp, Hernandez and welbeck will not be a bad striking force! Providing we buy two great midfielders to help add steel and creativity into the team.
Nomidfield
No midfield
1. In an idea world I would like to see us do a Rodriguez deal with Nani as part exchange and cash. 15 mill cash
2. Falcao for Hernandez with cash even though I love Chica and think he will be a star in La Liga and score 25 to 30 goals when he gets regular starts. 25 million cash
3. Sell Rooney and buy Goetze 10 million surplus cash
4. Buy Bender/Strootman 15 million
5. Buy The lyon left back can't remember his name 8 million
53 million outlay and Cherios and we will win the CL next season.
LOL being the greedy bugger that I am, I also want lewandowski so let's spend another 18 million there.
We would have a choice of defenders:
Samlling, Vidic, Evans, Jones, Keane, Buttner, Evra, Lyon Guy :), Fabio, Rafael
We would have a Midifield/Wingers of
Carrick, Cleverly, Strootman/Bender, Goetze, Zaha, Valencia, Young, Rodrigues
Forwards
Lew, Falcao, Welbeck, RVP
We could even afford to offload Young and with Anderson sales and some of the fringe players we are still looking at 50 million outlay.
I think my uncle could manage to win a few games with this team :)
Shahram
11 Apr 2013 22:01:37
all this talk of falcao for me is paper talk, for me it will be, strootman, lewandowski, and di maria.
I wouldn't argue with that but this Falcao rumour seems to have legs no one is completely dismissing it so we will see. personally I feel if he does arrive then Chicha could be going the other way. just my opinion
11 Apr 2013 21:56:56
Newcastle's Mwiba? Very poor. First time I have watched him play and he is having a shocker.
Sydney!
Sydney, for me it would be lewandovski up front up front rather than falcaou. strootman and di maria, what do you think to that?
Not sure about Di Maria, but the other two look likely at this point in time. Things can of course change though.
Sydney! {Ed004's Note - What do you make of Di Maria he is obviously an improvement on our current winger but are there better for 20-30 million. I believe he is a united fan?}
I wanted him when he was at Benfica, and he's done nothing since to make me change my mind.
I'd bite your hand off if we got him for around that price Ed, considering some of the sums being bandied about for wingers ie. Rodriguez
Don't like his theatrics, but otherwise he's close to the perfect winger imo.
Not only has he the skills, pace and tricks to get past people - he actually uses them too!
Proper top-class player, who'd walk into any team in the world.
Give me him and Ozil for £50m, and you can stick your Falcao!
12 Apr 2013 03:31:23
Syd, if you're talking about has been great for Newcastle. I personally thought at his price, he was a steal considering his age and his quality. I've followed his progression since his Newcastle move and he has adapted to the premier league better than expected. Maybe he just had a shocker last night but he is a great central defender
Mick
11 Apr 2013 21:54:42
Anybody else impressed by Strella from Basel. He has been impressive in every game that I've watched him in Europe over the last 2 or 3 seasons. Could he be something different to what we already have?
Obviously I think most would prefer to strengthen in other areas first.
Jules
Very very slow. Can finish well, but he is tragically slow.
Sydney!
Hes 32? don't think so
I am impressed by Sallah (spelling) to be honest.
11 Apr 2013 21:49:32
Dont be surprised if we spend £100mill + in the summer because let's face it City, Chelsea and the rest will be spending their extra millions from the new deal. Ronaldo for me is still the one SAF wants and we need 2 midfielders and a centre back
BFRO
Sorry to disappoint but I will be surprised and very much so! :)
£100m+ I do doubt that we've never spent over £65m in a summer transfer window and if ronaldo's is a part of that then we wouldn't be able to improve much else in the squad, if anything.
DHK
11 Apr 2013 21:37:32
i wish we could just combine welbeck and chicarito into one player, think they should just spend a while together and danny can coach him how to keep the ball and pass and little pea could teach danny how to stay on your feet in a goal scoring situation
I remember saying a similar thing when we had tevez and berbatov, if only berbatov with all his silky skills had the work ethic of tevez.
11 Apr 2013 20:57:54
Havent been here for since the lost. I didn't want to hear anyone's view.
But what is with this Falcao rumours, is it even worth talking about.
To me if we can just sign 2 players. It would be Kevin Strootman and Verratti. It is absolute to sign these 2. In terms of defence we r doing alrite, I reckon Rio might sign another year even if doesnt, we have Vidic, Evans, Smalling, Jones, Keane. Since Evra has signed a year and with Buttner and Fabio being there, full backs are good.
Our wingers same fully has been below, what Manchester United used to have in likes of Best, Giggs, Beckham and Ronaldo. Our immediate attention is midfield, Anderson as much as I like the guy and believe in his potential, he has to do lots of work out this summer. Cleverly doesn't have that authority and composure. Comes in Strootman, who I think almost everyone understand why he is must. And there is Verratti, I know lots of team has interest in him, right so. At 20 he is as good as it gets. I have watch youths for past 3 years and I know we don't have player who plays his position as good as him.
In terms of selling players, Rooney, Nani, and Hernandez debate, I think it is matter of how much! Ideally a team need player like Chicha who never complains. and is more than willing to play as a sub!
I thought I did sign in anyway.
Above post was mine
Red Samurai!
Strootman & Veratti would be the ideal 2 CM signings IMO. Unfortunately though, Veratti is very unlikely to arrive at OT. Strootman I'm very much hoping does arrive.
11 Apr 2013 20:29:26
I can't argue that falcao is a top 5 player. However paying those prices for a 27 year old at a position we are already full. This would mean no lewandowski (younger and cheaper) and prob the loss of chicharito who has improved, although perhaps not as much as hoped. The real problem is saf has built a side that doesn't have a real strong formation and tactics. Rvp and Rooney aren't fast enough for a counter attack. Our wingers are useless, all of them. So logically we should possess the ball as spend more time in the attacking third, but with midfielders like carrick and gigged playing big matches, we have no cm support in the attack. Saf needs to have a great summer, but the rumors seem to be all over the place. He needs to figure out the style and formation he wants to play and build the team accordingly. Either u go wide 4-4-2 with strikers that fit, or u go narrow with 4-5-1 or 4-3-3 which requires a different style of player. On have a feelin this will be a busy an exciting summer. What that means, I have no idea. Maybe de gea and ten strikers. Haha. -KG
11 Apr 2013 19:54:46
I really hope we do get Falcao. He is absolutely brilliant and among the best, if not the best striker in the world. We'd have the pick of Van Persie, Hernandez, Falcao and Welbeck up front, and as I've seen suggested on a different website Rooney could drop deeper into midfield, in the same way as Dembele has for Tottenham after joining Fulham as a number 9.
Personally I do not think Welbeck is or ever will be a top striker, but it seems he is at his best when carrying the ball forward or running on, pulling defenders out of position and creating space for others,
so would an attacking midfielder role (similar to the one used against madrid) be more suitable for him long term?
i know his touch and passing would need to improve but his pace and energy would make him a far more valuable squad player rather than slowly falling down the pecking order as a striker till he is sold off to a mid table team
11 Apr 2013 19:36:07
Would anyone give Anderson another season? Jus curious. J think he has the potential, jus been struck back with injuries
JK
No, he is blocking another player from signing for us.
Sydney!
Nooooooooooooo
He's lazy, fat and injured permanently.
Bye bye far boy
Brendan81
Even last summer I would have said yes but No, not any longer - he's been on the sidelines too long and we need a replacement who is more often fit.
I've always been one of Anderson's biggest supporters. He had huge potential. I say HAD as he will never become the player he could of. Maybe its because of the injuries, maybe its because he can't seem to keep his weight down or maybe its because the manager has misused him. But he needs to move on to create space in the squad and to try and rebuild his career.
Must be kidding right! Maybe if we wait long enough he might come good by the time he is 35 :)
Did you watch what was on display last night in the CL. That is where we need to get to.
Shahram
Totally agree, Anderson must be the first one to be sold, let's hope some club are desperate enough to buy him!
Get rid quickly. You'll never his name again when he leaves united.
Nomidfield
11 Apr 2013 19:36:02
rather spend 45m on Gundogan and gotze.
That is also a nice combo. I would rather go for Goetze and Bender or Goetze Verrati would be great but need about 55 million for those 2 I reckon.
Shahram
11 Apr 2013 19:21:11
Really hope these Falcao rumours are untrue because that sort of money should be spent in other areas!. Also watching Athletico play this season had made it clear he is only effective when he plays upfront on his own since Diego costa has been in the side as 2 upfront he had struggled with the players we have he would never play upfront alone
11 Apr 2013 19:05:20
I find that the Falcao rumours are only rubbish. Why would SAF spend so many millions on him?He has said that he believes this is the most dangerous attacking line in Europe, so unless someone leaves (maybe Rooney), we won't sign any striker imo.
I would be very happy with summer signings of Strootman, a young midfielder (who will be for the future and won't instantly walk into the team like Strootman) and a good winger/attacking mid for some creativity. Personally I think we don't need a new lb, because we will have Fabio back in the team along with Buttner and Evra. Even if Evra won't be first option, something tells me Fabio will make his best season next year and make the position his own (like Rafael).
As for the leavings, Nani and Anderson out, Scholes and Fletcher retire.
11 Apr 2013 18:34:22
NoMidfield i've got to take exception at something you said earlier. We can't compete for big players. So who's Robin van Persie? Best striker in the league last season, had his pick of clubs all across europe. Signed for who? I agree we need signings. Two good midfielders would be a start. No I don't want standards to slip either. But to keep calling all our players average and keep banging on about being light years behind in europe is misleading. I think we're three players away from getting close to the top again. You've been a fan since the sixties so you've seen worse United teams. MrE
MrE, I saluted you recently and whilst Nomidfield can be a glass half empty kind of guy (no offence mate), he does have a point. Perhaps you are both right. I think we are a long way behind the final 4 in the Champions League, but perhaps 2 or 3 quality signings will make the difference. And whilst I have seen worse United teams, I genuinely believe this will be the worst team we have had that has managed to win the league in the last 20 years. I'm not trying to be disrespectful to our team who have done a magnificent job this year, but we have not seen the dynamic exciting football week in week out that we have been accustomed to. In terms of top players, RVP is fair enough but let's be honest, there's a lot slipped through our fingers. As some have said, this Summer will be interesting.
11 Apr 2013 19:58:05
it is frustrating when we keep missing out on players like moura due to money. And I do agree with him we do need quality signings. But last summer we got two in van Persie and Kagawa. We need a couple more. I agree at times the team has been painful to watch. And it hasn't been as good as previous years. Yet we're still top. Loads of people wrote us off over the summer. I can see that when this team clicks, with a couple of quality signings we'll be back up there. Its going to take patience from us and trust in fergie. What worries me is the succession. MrE
Agreed guys, we all want the same for our great team, and that is "great" players. If we can get two or three quality signings, then we will be up there with the best. So we're not far away.
I think this is going to be an eventful transfer period, and hopefully we can get the right players in to complete the team.
Nomidfield
11 Apr 2013 17:38:26
What's interesting about these Falcao rumours is that wasn't it reported a month or 2 back that Martin Fergusen has been attending some of Atletico's training sessions? At the time it was reported he was looking at one of their young youth keepers, maybe he was looking at Falcao as I can't think of who else in their team.
Supasub
Is that SAF's Scandivaian cousin?
Ajh you question my error, when you post the word scandivaian!
Is that near Narnia?
Supasub
Aaaaaarrrggggghhhhh, damn touch screen, or my fat fingers
11 Apr 2013 17:00:25
FIFA are going to investigate united AON deal under the FFP rules
11 Apr 2013 17:26:54
Really. Like city got investigated for their dodgy etihad deals.
I think FIFA are more concerned with Spain at present with the top two clubs getting 150 million euros a year compared to the rest of the leagues 30 million. They are looking to put pressure on UEFA to sort out La Liga before it becomes an SPL with sunshine. We will se if Mr Platini has any bottle.
UEFA is set to probe Manchester United’s proposed 176 million euro deal to sell the naming rights for the club's training ground to Aon.
The US insurance giant already sponsors United’s shirts and is now looking at renaming the Red Devils’ Carrington complex in an eight-year deal which will net the club almost $30 million a year.
But at the Soccerex European Forum UEFA general secretary Gianni Infantino revealed the deal will be scrutinized under Financial Fair Play regulations, and warned that penalties could be faced if rules have been broken.
"All of these questions will have to be analyzed, ” he told the forum.
"We have some senior judges who are used to taking difficult decisions. The chairman of the investigatory body is a former Belgian prime minister and the chairman of the adjudicatory body has been one of most senior judges of the European Court of Justice until last year. They and know what they are doing. ”
The above was reported today, not sure how true it is
It probably is true, let the fools crack on, does anyone honestly believe with uniteds stature and finances we don't employ the best lawyers in the world to secure these deals to make sure they are all above board and legal, smells like jealousy to me, joeyored
It really doesn't matter. The worst that could happen is them not using the £18m a year AON money in the FFPR calculations. It really doesn't make a blind bit of difference to us. United EASILY fall within the FFPR guidelines. It will have no effect on the club at all.
It wouldn't be being investigated due to it being a corrupt sponsorship deal like the Etihad sponsorship for example. It will be being investigated as it's an excessive sponsorship deal. Simply because this training kit sponsorship is the only one in existence and couldn't be matched anywhere else in Europe.
The editor has spoken about excessive sponsorship deals and where UEFA will draw a line. It's understandable that this deal is being looked at, it would be odd if it wasn't investigated.
Sydney!
Good post Syd, hadn't thought of it like that but I think you're probably right on both fronts.
Sydney, why would it be an excessive sponsorship deal bearing in mind we are probably the biggest club in the world, is it because were the first for this kind of sponsorship?no disrespect intended, joeyored
11 Apr 2013 16:50:45
So now says we have made a payment a la De Gea for Falcao, seems something to this story.
No thank you.
11 Apr 2013 16:49:40
These Falcao rumours are picking up pace and i'm baffled, Fergie would be bonkers if he spent 45mil on a striker. Yes Falcao is probably the 3rd best striker/player in the world at the moment and he would improve our team but only a little bit because with the massive hole in the centre we'd still be conceding and not creating enough chances.
Priority should be two new mid-fielders, possibly scholes, fletcher, anderson leaving this summer, leftback posistion aswell, we need quality reinforcements, when that is dealt with splurge all the cash u want on wingers and strikers and cbs!
Sulei
I think if there is any truth to it, then rooney or hernandes are being moved.
Hypothetically as at this point this is all conjecture if we had a net of 50 million to spend, I can see us doing something like this as we should be getting somewhere in close to the below numbers from player sales:
Hernandez 20 mill or Rooney 45 mill
Nani 18 mill
Anderson 8-10 million
Bebe 3 mill
Macheda 2 mill
Either way we could be netting anywhere between 50 to 75 mill from player sales. Even with a falcao purchase we can still buy a midfielder, left winger.
How does everyone feel if our summer activity was falcao, Strootman, Rodriguez to the squad.
Shahram {Ed004's Note - Fantastic haha but left back is still a serious issue IMO as with the players available we would have a very narrow set up and we need full backs who offer a lot going forward but work hard to get back. Rafael has IMO been our best right winger and he is the right back whereas Evra has improved a bit going forward mainly in set pieces he isn't good enough defensively and he needs to track back more IMO}
Sharam your figures are high inflated even for this market, 45 mil for rooney in monopoly money maybe? closer to half that in real currency!
will be luck if we get 12. 5 for nani,
id bite your hand off if we got offered 6mil for anderson
Sulei
Ed004 Evra is hopeless and goes missing the last 20 minutes of games with his defending. I reckon fabio will be better than him. Do you believe the Falcao story?
Ed002 is there any substance to this or the usual bs
Shahram {Ed004's Note - I don't believe for a second haha but just contemplating how we would line up with him tbh I reckon for the money I'd prefer Lewandowski and Gotze but I reckon both Hernandez and Rooney might have to leave then and I don't want Hernandez to go tbh}
Sulei
No way Rooney goes for under 40 mill. He has very high market value and maybe not what he was a few years ago but he is worth a lot more than 20 mill as you are suggesting.
Anderson I agree maybe 6-8 mill because of his age and he might be better suited to other leagues.
I had this discussion debate earlier, I think Hernandes will go for 20 if sold and Lew for about the same.
There is a story we are offering Hernandez as part exchange for 20 and 27 million in cash for falcao, which sounds plausible as Athletico do have an interest in Hernandez and need money, so it works for them anyway you look at it.
The other side of the argument is I personally can't ever remember us doing part exchange deals.
Shahram
ED004 Athletico have an interest in Hernandez and only reason I am giving it 5% credibility.
I would hate the deal if it meant we don't sign midfielders. Even if it happened and Hernandez leaving, I still can't see how rooney fits in with RVP there. Who knows we might see a summer with big changes to our personnel or a summer of very little change while watching other clubs with lots of activity and players moving.
This is going to be an interesting summer as City is now supposedly interested in Goetze, which leads me to believe Silva might be off to Real.
I just hope we move guys like Anderson, Nani and few other early in the window to at least get a clear picture of what we are doing and have funds to go after our targets.
Shahram
11 Apr 2013 16:06:37
Who is that Snjneijdjer guy for Galatasaray? Missed an abso sitter.
MPez
11 Apr 2013 15:48:28
I look upon losing fergie like I did when facing getting the TB injection, scared as hell about it and everything was ok b4 it anyway, but knowing in the long term it would be for the best :-)
Chris the REDman
11 Apr 2013 15:47:54
If you could sign any five players in world football for United, who would they be? No financial restraints etc. just purely fantasy.
Mine would be, in no particular order;
Gareth Bale
I think we need a new winger. Young is not United class imo, Nani is too inconsistent and only has one good game every eight, while Valencia hasn't been quite the same since his injury, particularly this season he has struggled. Bale is exceptional. Terrific blend of pace, power, dribbling and has started to add goals to his game. He can play right, left or in the hole and is proven in the Premier League. Would sign him over Ronaldo because he is much younger and has room for even more improvement. Not saying he will ever be better than CR7, but he is still a great player.
Jack Wilshere
The best young player in the world imo. He has everything a great central midfielder should have, particularly in the PL. Great vision, can play long and short passes with deadly accuracy, a great engine and can even dribble past players. He also has that little nasty streak and is a real winner. Once he gets out of this little injury slump he will really kick on and will be the heartbeat of England's team for years to come.
Mario Gotze
Exceptional talent. Small and stocky but with electric pace and the brain to match, he could be that tricky little number 10 that I feel we have been missing in the big games this season. Too many times we have struggled to find that bit of inspiration, that bit of magic, to really make the difference. Real Madrid have Mesut Ozil, Barca have Andres Iniesta, City have David Silva and Dortmund have this guy. He would be a terrific signing.
Luke Shaw
This lad has impressed me no end since breaking into Southampton's first-team. He is a monster for a 17 year-old kid. Strong, quick, good in the tackle and good distribution, he has all the ingredients to be one of the world's top left-backs for years to come. Buy him soon and he could spend a couple of seasons learning from Patrice Evra. The heir to Ashley Cole's England throne imo, and hopefully Evra's at United.
Marco Verratti
Exactly what we have been needing in midfield for a while now. Full of energy and covers every blade of grass, great in the tackle, excellent positional sense, strong in the air and not afraid to sit back and do the dirty work. However, his ability on the ball is also exceptional. Great passer and always looks for it, which is so important especially for if you're playing for Man Utd, never hides and didn't look out of place playing against Barcelona.
Imagine a team consisting of:
De Gea
Rafael Jones Smalling Shaw
Verratti Wilshere
Zaha Gotze Bale
Welbeck
All under the age of 23 and would be able to play together for a good ten years. Immense potential in that team imo.
Maybe not realistic but that would be my dream signings!
Any thoughts folks?
s20c
11 Apr 2013 16:31:08
You were doing so well, it was all looking pretty good, then you put the name Welbeck down.
Ronaldo, messi, tiago silva, gotze, mata
Chris the REDman
Lol welbeck has no potential.
TRUMORS
Welbeck has plenty potential. He is 22 years old and if played regularly as a centre forward he would score goals. Just my opinion though of course.
s20c
11 Apr 2013 18:27:09
How about we come back in five years. He's still a kid and still learning. I'd rather have Danny than sturidge. Or a squad stuffed with mercenary donkeys like dzeko. Name me a player the same age as Danny in the city squad who came through their academy. United are built on developing young players, back from Fergie, back to Busby and Murphy, all the way back to Louis Rocca and the Mujac's. The academy is the heart and soul of the club and at times I think too many of you are too keen to rip the heart and soul out of the club. MrE
MrE, I think I have a new soulmate.
Sorry AJH, I'm kind of fickle like that. And anyway, its not you, its me :)
StevieK
MrE whilst you are a very positive guy, the academy being the heart and soul of the club is going overboard. The truth is we need squad players from the academy as we can't afford to buy 24 players in the open market and if we get lucky we will get a genuine starter or 2 which would be great.
Everyone keeps saying Welbeck is 22 and he will be great in the future. On that basis where do guys like Varrane, Verrati, Fisher, El sharawy to name a few go in a few years. Rooney at 17 was brilliant so this age thing is overplayed.
Welbeck is good player but I would not bet the house on him being what everyone hopes he will be.
Shahram
Ronaldo, Messi, Schweinsteiger, Iniesta and unfortunately need to use the last one for a left back Alba. LOL
Shahram
Sorry but I don't think danny will be with us long term he's not clinical enough in front of goal. frasier campbell was similar and a better finisher but got moved on. we don't produce enough in house talent any more with only danny and johnny evans current 1st teamers to come through our academy. we have some good under 21, s and an even better crop of under 18, s at the moment so I hope a few more make the grade with us. if he can stay injury free then will keane can be an outstanding forward.
johndenton
11 Apr 2013 15:21:47
This Falcao story really is baffling if true I guess he would cost around £45-48 mil he is 27 yes he is a good player but lewondowski is just as good and available for half the price and is 4 years younger! I would much rather we spend that sort of money on a midfielder! Manred
11 Apr 2013 15:11:57
These falcao rumours are interesting. Not because there true let's be honest were not gona sign another striker of that calibre and were not gona spen 40-50mil on a player. But he is owned one third by Jorge mendes an agent we use a lot. Could he be using us to to boost the price then returning the favour to bring us in someone. Rodriguez?
11 Apr 2013 14:20:07
We have already paid in advance to land Falcao, just as we did with De Gea, according to . This guy knows his stuff but could you imagine RVP and Falcao? Rooney could play behind them? Kagawa to play on the left of midfield with Nani more than likely to be sold. Fergie wants the CL before he calls it a day!
11 Apr 2013 13:56:39
Everyone out there is still crying out loud about getting a midfielder for the next season. Honestly speaking, as far the centre of the pitch is concerned, I see us buying only Strootman or a player in the similar mould and that too only if they are available at a reasonable price. Following are the actual areas of concerns as far as I think:
1. LEFT Back: Evra has been decent this term with his attacking prowess compensating for a lacklustre display in defense. Do we really trust Buttner to butt his way into the first team? Or maybe a returning Fabio? Or how about one of our youth - Tyler Blackett maybe? My question is this - does any of the above look like a "world-class" left back that we'll need to help us win major trophies?
2. Wings: I know Zaha has already been brought in, but is that enough? By the looks of it, Nani is as good as gone, and if were upto me, judging by their form this season, Young and Valencia aren't too far from the exit door either. I know these players have done well in the past but that was then; looking into the future, do you see us playing a CL final against Real or Barca or Bayern with these wingers as our first choice? The most shambolic thing is that Evra might have put in more chances this season than Young, Valencia and Nani combined.
While Evra's replacement is still a major concern, as far as midfield goes, one of the reasons Fergie might not be on a madhunt for 22-23 year old maestros from elsewhere is because we have a very good crop of youngsters coming in from the reserves and youth ranks within the next 2-3 years and such a buy might actually hamper their progress or even make them look elsewhere for opportunities (remember Pogba?) due to lack of major gametime. I for one am really excited for the future looking at the possible options in midfield and the wings; players like Januzaj, Powell, Petrucci and a certain Daehli (the brightest of the lot) are youngsters you'd want to retain at every cost.
The question then is, whom do you buy that would help us keep up with the likes of City/Chelsea (PL), Real/Barca/Bayern (Europe) and be an inspiration to these young lads rather than a possible roadblock to their fledging careers?
Following look like possible options for the next season:
Central Defense: Lesser dependency on Vidic and Rio with more first team playtime given to the likes of Smalling, Jones and Evans
possible ins: Garay/Okore + Cup Games for Wootton/Michael Keane
Full Backs: Rafael to own the right flank for years to come while Evra to be rested periodically with the likes of Fabio (2nd choice) and Buttner (3rd choice) filling in
possible ins: None (which is a cause of concern on the left side of the pitch) + Cup Games for Blackett
Midfield and Wings: Carrick to be supported by Kagawa (1st choice), Cleverly/Anderson (2nd choice) and the veterans (3rd/4th) with Zaha/Valencia/Young (if Valencia/Young stay)
A lot of Kagawa being used depends on the formation and team that we are playing with as he plays more like an additional striker from the midfield
Possible ins: Strootman/Matic + Cup Games for Januzaj/Powell/Petrucci (maybe Daehli too - who knows?)
Strikers: Musical chairs between RvP, Rooney (if he stays), Welbeck and Chicharito - with Rooney and Welbeck to offer support from the midfield/wings when reuqired
Possible ins: None (Falcao, Lewandowski you say?) + Cup Games for Henriques and Will Keane
I seriously cannot see Falcao being bought without Rooney or Chicharito being sold and even if one of them is sold, the other would have to play as a substitute for most of the season. We all know that none of us would be complaining if we go in for either of the Falcao or Lewandowski but at what cost?
Outs:
Most Likely: Macheda, Nani and Anderson
Less Likely: Rooney/Chicarito, Valencia/Young
Apart from the likely INs mentioned above, following is I would go for (if given a hefty budget and with the single aim of winning CL next year): Falcao, Sanchez, Coentrao and Gotze.
-NPrak
11 Apr 2013 17:35:12
If you think that there is nothing wrong with that midfield and it isn't the highest priority for transfers then I have to question what team you've been watching this season. Surely when everyone else on here has said we need a midfielder you have to think that there must be something in it. Afterall two dozen of us all can't be wrong. I'd be interested to read why you think this midfield doesn't need improving.
11 Apr 2013 12:53:30
All the four who play in semi finals of CL deserve their places due to the overall quality of their players.
Even if PSG entered they deserve it.
World class Midfielders or wide players in other big teams
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Barca - Xavi Iniesta Busquets Messi
Bayern - Schweinstieger, Ribery, Robben, javi Martinez
Dortmund - Gotze, gundogan, sven bender, Sahin
RM - Alonso, Khedira, CR7, Modric, Ozil
PSG - Veratti, Pastore, Moura
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Does any of Valencia, Nani, Young, Carrick, Cleverley, Anderson and Carrick match for quality of any the above players of same position on their day atleast?
May be carrick and may be nani (once in 10 matches)
we need atleast one world class player in every position.
At the moment our defense has it, goal keeper is world class imo, World class strikers are available in United.
None at Center midfield and wide positions.
imo if we have great midfield players, other problems will take care of itself.
Prime example of the term 'world-class' being vastly over used in modern day football.
s20c
11 Apr 2013 13:33:15
i think your over using the term world class. Especially regards the paris and dortmund players. They are all good players and i'd have most of them at united but their not world class yet.
Dortmund: add Reus and leave out sahin.
Spot on. snice loosing cl final to barca. fergie has wowed to match them. I don't think that had happened. and comparing to that squad we have gone bad. in case of average players. thin quality. and frequent injuries.
So we are no match for them.
So now WE ARE TOP OF PREMIER LEAGUE RANT can come in.
Rodio17
Kagawa should get up to that standard in a season or two. I also believe that if we got Strootman he would reach a great height too.
-JakeW
11 Apr 2013 15:04:01
Its funny when you list Bender, Gubdogan, Sahin, Veratti, Pastore and co as world class and yet leave out Fabregas.
Mick
11 Apr 2013 12:32:27
How can anyone say Barca are a quality team without Messi! Last night they where average, and without the main man, their very average goalkeeper and defence was caught out. Granted up top they probably match every other team in the World, but when you consider their best players apart from Messi, Xavi is 33 and Villa is 31 how long can it last?
The only reason Barca are so good is that the front players press hard and do their jobs, while Messi does the rest! what other team in the World can get away with having Mascherino at centre half?
Victor Valdes - is absolutely pants and hopefully he goes to Arsenal so we can all have a laugh!
Dani Alves - is very overrated and when we talk about Evra and his lack of denfensive qualities, I instantly remind myself, thank goodness we haven't got him at right back.
Pique - has lost it, next time you watch Barca keep an eye on the lad and watch the sly fouls he gives away cause he has no chance of getting the ball. I would take Johnny Evans over him anyday!
Mascherano - I ain't even going to bother and just say Liverpool!
Puyol - I have great respect for and he does step up to the plate when needed, but the guy needs a haircut
It really sickens me to think that this team is the apple of Eufa eyes, considering the whinging and whining they do as well. I keep thinking to myself if only we had a better midfield for the last 4 years what we could of won. i'm not being arrogent, but even with our handicap, we have still managed to win leagues and reach the champons league final twice! All you have to do is watch the two Real Madrid games to know how close we are!
aaallj5
11 Apr 2013 13:28:09
Nonsense. All of it.
Whistler.
Oh yeah, so barca are absolute crap without messi! Come off it, they were playing a team that could easily win CL next year. Are u saying that lavazzi, ibrahimovich, verrati, pastors, thiago, moura, will not walk in our team!
Barca were up against a very strong team, and they were missing their star player, just like Madrid will be rubbish without CR7.
Our team is light years behind the top five. And if you can't see that, then god help us.
Thank god we're not in the CL, as we will be embarrassed.
Nomidfield
NoMidfield:
Do you even support Manchester United, you constantly slag of the team, always picking out the problems rather than the success.
Our team light years behind, well please enlighten me to why you believe this! Because if you analyse any team in Europe apart from the midfield, Manchester United can match up to anyone!
I love how you say we would be embarrased, just like we where against Real Madrid, but not because of our football, but a silly decision. Infact could you not argue over the two legs we slightly edged it, if you don't believe a no mart like me, ask the real madrid manager!
I bet your one of these pessimistic fans that are sweating about losing the league this year. Its sad really cause people like you don't support United, you look for their failures so you can come and claim you where right and that if only Fergy had listened to you. You would probably like to call that passion and love for the club, when infact its you acting like a Liverpool fan recalling the old days of us winning the treble and so on and harping on about how we are not playing football like we did in the good all days. Stop being spolit and support the players pulling on the famous red, rather than slagging them of.
Not once did I say Barca are absolutely crap without Messi, however if you take Messi out of the team their very suspect defence becomes more on show. Granted PSG are a good side, but are Ac Milan?
Oh and a star player makes all the difference, the two spainish teams may not be one man teams, but take the star players out and what happens? Didn't Ronaldo score two goals against us and where would Madrid be without him against Gala?
Our players do a job and they do that job very well. Take into consideration the competiveness of the Premiership and the fatigue it must cause!
It must be pretty sad thanking God that his own team is not in the champions league. Thank God we where so consistent and have battled so much hardship, from the media and opposing fans to be 12 points clear in the premier league!
Barca are not half the team they are when Messi is not playing and if you don't believe me watch the first 70 mins again!
aaallj5
Here we go again, how dare we crtisize our team. Of course they are good players and in some instances, rvp, Rooney, vidic, are world class players.
I'm not saying we are no good, but what I'm saying is that the top five or six teams in europe are better than us. No one can argue that barca, real, Bayern and Dortmund will beat us.
Do we want to come up to their level? I hope so. Do we want to have the best players playing for united, I hope so. That is not negative, is it? Or do u want to carry on watching Valencia, nani, young, Anderson?
BTW, I have said this before and I don't need to justify to anyone, I have been a united fan since 1966, and season ticket holder since 1970. So I think I've seen the good, the bad and the indifferent in my time.
If we don't look at ourselves and want to improve as a team, then we'll be going backwards. I have never questioned anyone's pessimism or optimism as that's what makes us all different, but that is not to say that I love united any less than anyone else.
Nomidfield
I agree with pretty much u have said NM we are so far behind the semi finalists in CL this year
Chris the REDman
11 Apr 2013 18:12:08
But for the red card we would have been in the quarters. We would have beaten gala and been in the semi's. At that stage anything could have happened. Yes we could have got embarrassed but we could also have found ourselves in the final. No one is saying not to have an opinion but some of you just constantly moan and never say anything positive about the team. Its not all doom and gloom.
11 Apr 2013 10:58:42
Is it any surprise we are linked to Falcao. Look who owns one third of him. How many deals has he been involved in with Fergie. Maybe Fergie is just doing him a favour and pushing the price up for City and Chelsea or maybe like in other deals there is a chance that large amounts of money can evaporate into the atmosphere and be put down to paying 3rd parties and not to just sitting in an off shore account.
I agree Kloot, I think it's no more than Mendes using United to get a better price from BM or Chelsea.
Sydney!
Nice theory, glad to see you're looking on the bright side of things as usual ;) Personally I believe the Falcao rumours have just as little basis as your post.
HBadger
11 Apr 2013 10:34:30
Falcao? I think we are not interested in any more striker. atleast for the next season. We DO need midfielders atleast 2 playmakers. One bad season for valencia and Ashley dowsnt make them bad enough to get rid of; Zaha will be here too.
WE NEED midfielders, I admire carrick very much but he is not a creative attacking midfielder. We surely missed out on Sjnider [spelling]
Love that spelling of Sneijder!
We are interested in strikers, that is quite a well known thing, especially Lewandowski. Maybe we know he is heading for Munich so have turned our attentions to Falcao, who knows.
What we do know is the money is available as last season we bid large amounts for Moura and Hazard and were pipped at the post. Unfortunately if the two teams we are up against are City and Chelsea we don't really stand a chance financially and would have to hope he wants to come because we are Manchester United.
11 Apr 2013 10:00:30
Where is Percy?
Or, ngiak? I miss ngiak.
SakHere misses ngiak.
A lot of posters take time away from this site during the season. I am pretty sure we will see them return when the transfer window opens again.
-JakeW
I too miss ngiak's posts as do I miss zee's input to this page!
Hope you're keeping OK guys.
HBadger
Maybe they read the same garbage week after week and can't take anymore buy this buy that, we can't compete for the big big players anymore so wake up everybody. Until I see we can buy two 30m+ players in the same window with the money we bring in my mind will not change, the glazers are bleeding us dry.
Don't care how many disagrees I get for this post.
Stagmufc
Agreed, and all the rose tinted lot, think we are actually going places with the team we've got. We're going nowhere, until saf retires and the Glazers sell the club.
Bayern, real, barca, Dortmund, PSG, city are all better, add to that the emerging teams like Chelsea and you realize that unless we are prepared to change our management and our system and the players, then Valencia, nani, young, Anderson et al, will not do it.
It is up to the club and management what they want to do, but at the moment, we are average.
Nomidfield
Nomidfield, Stagmufc
Did you post on the wrong thread?
Don't think it's any coincidence, that we've started to struggle since Zee left : (
I'm really worried Rvp won't score again until zee returns, I'm sure his last goal was around when zee last posted?
11 Apr 2013 09:58:04
There was a thread yesterday about who might replace Sir Alex. But I think there is an obvious issue that some have overlooked. If you look at our squad you have a lot of young players who will be key to the future of our club. And we continue to keep bringing such players in such as Powell and Zaha. So whoever comes in will just be finishing off the the team built by Sir Alex. For me this would rule out someone like Mourinho who would want to put his own stamp on the team. So the key point as to who will replace Sir Alex will be that they would be happy to continue to build the team in the way that Sir Alex is currently doing rather than building it in their own image. They would have to have a similar philosphy and be able to keep the same kind of atmoshere around the club. As good as Mourinho is he would want to rip apart the team and build it in his own image and he would change the feeling in and around the club. Some might argue for the better, but personally Sir Alex's methods have brought long term success where as Mourinho's only short term success.
That's why I feel it will be someone who has been at the club under Sir Alex, someone who knows him and understands how the club run. that's why I feel it will be either Blanc or Quieroz. Solskjear or Giggs could get to take over long term but in the short term I think someone more experianced is needed.
Blanc who was at the club for 12 month
Quieroz who has been a disaster as a manager.
Solskjear who is still learning the trade
Giggs never managed a team in his life.
God I hope not.
Mourinho, Low, or kloop over them 4 any day of the week for me.
Also don't underestimate mourinho he's a very clever man and would understand what would be expected of him at the United.
The hardest thing about the united job won't be taking one the biggest jobs in world football but following on from Ferguson.
I think Moyes would be a fantastic manager for us, he's done a fantastic job at Everton, with no resources and knowing his best players would be sold, shows no signs of a huge ego hard working and meticulous. I know lots don't want him he'd do for me.
Moyes Blanc Quiroz Solskkaer Giggs as next manager would mean we would be competing for fourth
People have no idea how big this job is
Type in to the internet Wilf McGuiness
Red Man
11 Apr 2013 12:48:11
I'm not saying who i'd want but who I expect to see. Klopp or Simione would be my choices.
That's why I think SAF will stay on at the club for a few year's to take some of the pressure off the next manager.
Sydney!
KLOPP - it just has to be, over his time at BVB he's spent less that 30mil instead choosing to work with youth, look what that's got him, players like gotze gundogan, bender, hummels, subitic and lewy. Majority of our squad are starting to age out e.g vidic Ferdinand evra carrick scholes giggs Rooney RVP, but in my opinion we do have the players to replace them either in our squad or youth, I think with one or two signings that should keep us tied over till he comes in
19jackc94
11 Apr 2013 13:21:27
We ever appoint moyes i'm not renewing my season ticket. We need a proven winner who knows how to run a massive club and could handle the pressure of taking over from the greatest manager of all time. Not some plodder bargain basement shopper who's never won anything, never beaten a top four team and would crack under the pressure. MrE
Agree with the last poster, Moyes will be disaster. All young managers mentioned will not do it either. So it has to be mourinho or klopp.
As for the ridiculous comment, that mourinho has not done it over a long period, what absolute garbage! Won at Porto, won at Chelsea, won at Inter, won at Real! Wake up, this guy is a trophy machine, he wins wherever he goes. And if you look at his record against our manager, it is pretty good! If he goes to Chelsea, then expect them to win the league.
Nomidfield
NoMidfield
Totally agree
Red Man
Sydney, how does SAF staying on "help" a new manager? Having him constantly looking over your shoulder will be the kiss if death for anyone, even the special one! SAF just wouldn't be able to resist "oh, you don't want to do it like that, you want to do it like this. "!
RedSince68
Mourinho is a boor with no class whatsoever, but hey, so long as he wins stuff, who cares how he personally reflects on the club.
Knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Obviously that's the sort of attitude that appeals to lots of the 'win at all cost' brigade on here, who don't care if he would drag the good name of the club through the gutter.
Mourinho is the best manager in world football around.
Madrid is a joke when it comes to the board and the players and how it is run. SAF would last one season at RM because the some of the spanish players and Perez make a mangers job very difficult.
He is complete different manager to fergie and yes he would clean up the deadwood as many of our players will not be deemed good enough from his perspective.
There is some talk of him going over to PSG, if true that is is very scary team with their money and him coaching them.
Shahram
Redsince68
your spot on. As unpopular as it may be when saf calls it a day that should be that we should shake his hand and thank him for a truly remarkable time but as anyone who knows the history of the club will know it took us a long time to find a manager who was strong enough to take the pressure of having sir matt upstairs god knows we don't want that again and following saf will be even more daunting i, m with you on this one
11 Apr 2013 07:51:30
Every morning a new rumor. Yesterday we had the unlikely signature of falcao! Today we got the more likely rumor that we are chasing McCarthy (Wigan). that's more like our standard!
When we are crying out for world class players, we chase McCarthy! Help!
Nomidfield
So despite the fact that both of these are 'rumours' you decide to believe one of them and ask for help but disregard the other one, just so you can continue and back up your constant negative mindset and attitude to supporting the greatest team in the world.
Good work.
Lol agree with that GDS to be honest
HBadger
11 Apr 2013 13:39:17
Round of applause for gds. MrE
Guys, I know these are only rumors, so who do you "positive" guys think we're going to buy? Ronaldo? Falcao? Modric?
It is not a negative attitude, it is a realistic view, we are falling short of buying the top players, if you think the players we've got are world beaters, then that's your opinion.
We had world beaters when keanem Beckham, scholes, giggs, butt and co were playing in our team, but now, we have average players.
If that is a negative attitude then tough! I'm not going to come on here and build McCarthy to be a world class player, when HE'S NOT!
So if u want to call us negative, when all we want is the best for our club, then that's your choice, but I don't want us to drop our standards!
Nomidfield
NM
It's more that both rumours are just that, rumours, yet you've assumed 1 is true and assumed the other is false - just to justify your point.
IMO neither will arrive at OT.
Yes what gav said, I never said anything about the quality of our team, just your silly post believing one rumour and not the other.
NM
To answer your Q - I'd only be guessing but I wouldn't be surprised to see summer INS in the form of Strootman (CM), Lewandowski (FW) & Rodriquez/Gaitan (AM).
None of these are recognised 'world class' players just yet but all are very promising, relatively young and have the ability to become top players. This is the United way is it not?
I'd be happy with a summer along those lines.
The only recognised 'world class' player I remember us buying was Veron - how did that turn out?
Lastly, I take it you are disappointed with our recent transfers? I'd have to say I've been happy with most of our recent signings (although we should have bought a CM, clearly):
RVP - recognised world class player purchased off the back of his best season, for top money.
Kagawa - one of the stars of an exciting Dortmund team, has the ability to become a real star with time.
Smalling & Jones - 2 fantastically talented young CB's who could go on to be the England CB partnership foryours to come. Jones could go on to be a real top player and character. The 2 cost close to £30m between them which is a big outlay on players who will likely be worth even more in the future.
DDG - we payed almost £20 for a 19 yr old keeper who was said to be one of the best young keepers around and he's starting to show that with us now.
Then we've spent smaller amounts on players like Henriquez, Powell, Buttner - whom if they improve to a good level will turn out to be absolute bargains.
Personally I like this 'mix' of transfers between recognised players and young prospects.
NM - I'm just interested to know, have you been disappointed with these recent transfers?
Hd
you seem to have forgotten we paid 30 mill Ferdinand and Rooney who at the time were considered world class. The reality is we have not been to spend like the way we used to since the glazers bought the club and had our financial challenges from 2009 to 2011.
Shahram
Sharham - I didn't forget at all I just wouldn't have labelled either as 'world class' when we bought them. Would you? They were both top quality players but went on to gain their world class status at United IMO, which is the United way.
Both went for huge transfer fees agreed but they didn't have the status of a current Ronaldo or Falcao for example IMO who are thought to be in the top 5 players in the world. Rio and Wayne weren't at that level when we got them.
Veron had already made is place in the sport when he joined, as has the likes of Falcao today.
The only other truely world class players we bid for IMO were Ronaldinho and Batistuta. Unfortunately we got neither!
All opinion of course, a very subjective topic!
11 Apr 2013 06:28:46
Anyone interested in predicting the outcome of the UCL quarter finals?
I think Bayern are favourites to advance and will defeat any team they come up against, while the other match could be more interesting
Real- Barca : I see Real defeating the catalans and advancing to the quarters.
Borussia- Barca : Dortmund can't keep chasing the ball for 2 legs and their high pressing game, along with their inexperiance, will see Barca advance.
Borussia- Real : BVB have played Madrid twice this season, beating Madrid in their own game. Klopp showed that his tactical knowledge is not far from Mourinho's and I think they would advance.
Mick
For me its a frankfurter and schnitzel party on the 25th May. and a all german champs lg final to boot!
Dortmund for me. said it since the groupls. hope i'm right for bets sake!
ms85
11 Apr 2013 08:02:46
I could easily predict the outcome of the quater finals at this point, i'd go with Madrid Barca Bayern and Dortmund to go through. Lol. The Semi's I think will be harder to predict and I would want to wait and see who plays who. I have a feeling we'll see Dortmund vs Barca and Bayern vs Madrid.
I'd like to see Barca play Bayern and Madrid vs BVB.
Would love to see Madrid sink Bayern in the final :-)
Munich are the best team in Europe imo
Don't have any weak links, don't concede goals, score goals and have a midfield that controls games.
Excellent team
Im praying dortmund win it. don't like Barca don't want Madrid to get 10 unless it means Ronnie comes home. Not over keen on Bayern so it has to be Dortmund
I picked Bayern to win it all at the group stage.
Would like to see a Barca/Dortmund, Bayern/Madrid semis.
Shahram
11 Apr 2013 04:00:10
Sydney!
Skimmed through the page but couldn't find any post about the editor saying we have a deal in place for a new manager and that we would go for Goetze in 2014. What exactly was said?
The whole post is gone. Mystical!
Sydney!
Just type Goetze into the search bar.