Manchester United Banter Archive April 11 2018

11 Apr 2018 22:47:47
Who saw the goal from Ruben Neves tonight. He is looking like a good player.

12 Apr 2018 00:50:22
Agreed Singh he has scored some crackers this season. 6 from outside the box. Only 21 years old I believe. One heck of a talent and was rated very highly at Porto. I would not be against us putting a bid in for him in the summer.

12 Apr 2018 08:44:20
He was very highly rated I like the fact he was prepared to go to our second tier league and prove himself.

12 Apr 2018 12:49:40
Looks a good little player to me. Can see him move top a top 6 team. in the next few years.

12 Apr 2018 12:53:14
He's Portuguese, so it would be great if Mourinho can secure his services. There again, most Portuguese can't stand Mourinho, so maybe that will work against us.

12 Apr 2018 16:16:49
Another one of ronnies boys coming good😂.

11 Apr 2018 22:03:11
Chiellini was fuming, said to the Madrid players "How much did you pay for the penalty. " Madrid do seem to get an awful amount of decision their way in the CL. UEFA better off putting them straight into the final😂😂.

{Ed001's Note - was it just me or did Oliver look like he did a little skip of joy before pointing to the spot? He looked like all his xmases had come at once when he was giving it!}

11 Apr 2018 22:11:38
Pointed towards the penalty spot like he was about to fight with it😂😂😂. On a serious note Ed001, is there a 'reason👀' why Barcelona and Real get these huge refereeing decisions in big games or is it simply bad refeering coupled with luck?

{Ed001's Note - luck? I am not sure luck has anything to do with it...}

11 Apr 2018 22:18:40
It was like he was hand picked to red it, a bad ref that fella.
But was it a penalty? Pity button didn't stay a bit calmer, might have had a chance of saving it .
Now it was a good pen from Ronaldo under that pressure.

{Ed001's Note - I doubt any keeper would have saved it.}

11 Apr 2018 22:24:51
The refereeing seen today shows why no British referees will be at the World Cup.

11 Apr 2018 22:38:13
You think there is any fixing involved?

11 Apr 2018 23:19:31
It was a good decision by the ref. You can't put your hands on the back of your opponent and push thst player off balance to the floor. Benatia made a mistake. Definite penalty. Feel sorry for Buffon because it was his last chance to get a Champions League winners medal but had his forward been pushed he would have been screaming for a penalty. Secondly maybe the ref could have taken a more lenient approach to Buffon complaining but then again why should he tolerate being verbally harangued like that. Buffon should have realised his team had more chance of the penalty being saved or missed if he was in goal than if he was in the stands. one last point how much worse might it have been for Madrid if Dybala had been playing?

11 Apr 2018 23:53:16
There was absolutely no way the defender had any chance of getting that ball without going through the back. It was the only way to prevent the attacker from bringing the ball under control and having the easiest of chances. You personally might be able to sustain an argument for not giving a penalty, but one cannot fault the decision to do so either.

Ronaldo cool as a cucumber. Brilliant header to create the situation, and as good a penalty as you will ever see under intense pressure. It's a good job he wasn't that good at them when we played Chelsea in the final. We might not have had the opportunity to see JT slip and put the winner wide.

12 Apr 2018 00:24:41
Ramos was a big loss in that defence. He is the leader back there. Buffon got the red not a nice way for his last game in Europe .
Now the ref again, I like Ronaldo but the ref could have booked him at least 3 times for diving but he didn't.

12 Apr 2018 01:27:28
It was a clear penalty, good decision from Oliver and had to send off Buffon.

The refereeing in the city v Liverpool game on the other hand.

12 Apr 2018 06:13:12
Michael Oliver is probably delighted because he would not need to run for another 30 minutes.

12 Apr 2018 08:26:54
Thank God we didn't sign Kroos. The guy's a liability. It's all well and good picking a pass, but I lost count of the number of times he just let opposition midfielders run off of him.

Woeful defensively.

12 Apr 2018 07:12:34
So was it a penalty in your opinion ed001?

{Ed001's Note - it certainly wasn't a clear penalty, I don't know how anyone can so arrogantly dismiss the rules by saying so. It is a judgement call, the defender put his hands on him but he went down like he had been shot (perhaps Harry Kane's shoulder ghosted in and smashed him to the ground on his way back from scoring that beauty for Wolves last night?) so it is just as much simulation as a penalty. It then comes down to the ref and his officials to make a judgement call, was the shove enough to cause the player to go down or did he throw himself down in an attempt to win a penalty? So it could be either way. One of those calls that sucks if they go against you but you would be annoyed if it didn't go for you. 50-50 I would say.}

12 Apr 2018 09:24:15
I though he was waiting for a touch to go down, so much so he almost forgot to play the ball .

{Ed001's Note - which I fully agree with, but the defender also gave him the excuse so it will always be all about opinion.}

12 Apr 2018 13:08:33
We see so many terms thrown around, from tackle from behind to push in the back. Personally I believe if you make a challenge and don win the ball but get the player instead then it is a foul ergo a Penalty.
Pity a great game from Juve ended this way but sadly it did.
Would the player had scored if the defender hadn't tackled him, is another debate on its own.
If this was Utd instead of Juve I'd say we let ourselves down in the 1st leg and our defense didn't concentrate in the dying minute to let CR7 and Vasquez get into such positions, no matter how painful that admission would be.

11 Apr 2018 14:03:41
Aftwr a long time there are 4 semi finalists from 4 different countries. England, Italy, Spain and Germany.

Who do you guys reckon will win.

Id go with Real Madrid.

{Ed001's Note - wait, what? Isn't there a second leg to go in two of the games?}

11 Apr 2018 14:14:03
Singh after what happened to Barcelona I wouldn't count those chickens just yet.

11 Apr 2018 14:38:26
Bayern for me, wouldn't be surprised if Roma won it either, a team of giants led Daniele De Rossi!

11 Apr 2018 14:49:31
Dzeko has been colossal for Roma since he'd been there.

11 Apr 2018 15:05:48
Did he leave City because of lack of playing time? Remember him scoring them important goals when City won the title in 2014.

11 Apr 2018 17:03:38
Hehheeeeheeeeee 😂😂😂😂.

11 Apr 2018 18:23:39
Seville for me then we went out to the winners. :) . HAHA.

11 Apr 2018 07:01:36
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 11th April 2018

11 Apr 2018 07:31:04
Good read Ed.
Nice to see r d card overturned for Arsenal.

{Ed001's Note - I just wonder about those appeals, surely they should either examine every incident again or none?}

11 Apr 2018 08:28:48
Always contentious right?
Difficult to be consistent refereeing a game let alone consistently over many games. I hope the VAR is to check in the red decision rather than focus too much on players. Afterall if the red is looking over the players, who is looking over the refs?
I know Ed did mentioned about someone in stadium overseeing the red but if too much policing then it becomes a boring game. So unless the foul is obvious or ends in a goal, then just let the game carry on. Retro punishments can be meted out etc. it kills the mood of game if too much stoppage and reliance on VAR. anyway not Soo soon so plenty of time to debate valuenof VAR.

{Ed001's Note - I would rather they just let the ref referee and then afterwards the officials all sit down with reps from each clubs and watch the game again, so any cards that were given by mistake can be rescinded and any fouls or dives that went unpunished can be punished.

Best of both worlds, I think. We get games that flow but players know that any dives etc will lead to bans even if they get away with it, so it should (and I stress should) stop the likes of Zaha etc and their blatant dives being such a blight on the game. Things like Ederson's wild pushes on Mane, where he was incredibly lucky not to get red carded, could then be revisited without the pressure from the fans.

It should also lessen the pressure on refs during games, as they are so fearful of making mistakes it probably causes a lot of the mistakes. If you know you can look back after and rectify errors, you no longer have so much fear to block you up.}

11 Apr 2018 09:43:12
Yup Ed. That’s similar to what I was thinking. Else it is very disruptive to momentum of teams. Obviously review needs to be done within 1-2 days and punishment meted out asap. That would really be the value of VAR not slow the game down unless there are serious injuries.

{Ed001's Note - I would do it pretty much straight after a match, when the officials have had time to get showered, changed and relax a little.}

11 Apr 2018 16:29:04
Far too much sense there Ed1.

Although knowing the premier league they'd bring in Simon Cowell with a big buzzer an televise it.

{Ed001's Note - they could do a phone vote on whether it is a yellow or a red....}

11 Apr 2018 03:45:55
Nice to see lionel messi showing he's the consumate professional and blaming barca's defeat to roma on jose wanting to buy umititi! and yet again there are whispers of jose wanting to look at the possibility of neymar to united in a player (s? ) + cash deal, i know it sounds ludicrous but that's the word in the shadows, i'm guessing it would take neymar to stamp his feet and throw a hissy fit, not to mention a few sheckles to make it happen, but if it did, man alive THAT would make other potential targets realise jose ain't playing-anyways- 3-2-1- and back in the room!

11 Apr 2018 05:31:04
Co82 Jose is the best target for any negative things 🤣.
Any problem, any unsettling is attributed to him. Gosh he is the biggest star manager in modern football.
But bear in mind the media needs to write something and what better way than to start a rumor. Let it gather speed and maybe just maybe it will get plenty clicks. Like Ed said, don’t believe too much these news.
If you really want trustworthy news, this site is the best. Most others just read with a big pinch of salt and laugh it off.

11 Apr 2018 05:41:06
Yes Classof82 it's all mourinho's fault, Barcelona expect umtiti to be the big goal scorer in UCL QF's afterall it's not like those poor Barcelona folk pay an Argentine midget 700k a week to do that.

11 Apr 2018 06:40:48
That’s the word in the shadows? Are we going to get a daily view of the latest red top or twitter rumours from you? A stopped clock is wrong twice a day so I am sure that some rumours have legs but the majority are nonsense.

11 Apr 2018 07:44:26
A stopped clock is right twice a day AJH, sorry mate. Your other points, as per, are spot on and well put.

11 Apr 2018 08:03:08
Are you Ronnie in disguise?

11 Apr 2018 08:58:10
Lads, i'm sure your right and it'll never happen, but the rumour was mentioned on one or two radio shows in europe, and apparently heard from some bloke who got told by at least 4 pidgeons he was feeding at carrington (! ) -and still you don't believe! lol! -but honestly, a few sports journo's in france and spain have been saying that if ronaldo stays at real, then neymar doesn't fancy a re-run of the messi situation while he was at barca, by deduction they said what other teams have the prestige, history, resources, stature, fan base, international standing and the small matter of the financial clout to pay him telephone numbers, not to mention being the main man in respect of adulation, now the only team to fit the bill was of course a certain team from the red side of a city called manchester, this summer the club have to make a bold statement on transfers for me, neymar fits the bill and i believe maybe the french league is not all he thought it would be, so unless ronaldo does one from los blancos, then where else can he move to that ticks most if not all the boxes, and again, the world of football would be sent a clear message about the clubs' future intentions, so i'm going to live the dream and keep my fingers crossed the glaziers smash open the piggy bank and ed woodward at least goes balls out to get a deal done, if you don't try you'll never know, what's there to lose? -just a side note i hope the rumour about richarlison happens as well, exciting to watch and a good attitude as well.

{Ed002's Note - This is not lots of journalists with the same tale to tell but one journalist with a story being repeated by others. There is no intention that Ronaldo will stay at RM beyond the summer of 2019 at the latest.}

11 Apr 2018 09:00:01
No, sorry Park, I'm well past the age of being fascinated by U-18 European talent.

11 Apr 2018 09:23:36
I think Park meant classof82 with his ‘rumours’ every day which people keep telling him are nonsense, it’s going to get tedious very quickly.

11 Apr 2018 09:37:02
Sorry lads, I'll get me coat. Have a good day.

11 Apr 2018 09:59:58
Yeh sorry yellow I meant to class of 82. Sorry Of 82 but Unless the Eds have said it on here then I don’t believe it. Seeing as how much the media demonise Jose and united I don’t see how you can take their transfer rumours seriously. I saw an article yesterday saying rashford to Arsenal is 5/ 1. If anyone bets on that they are stupid. Take the reports with a pinch of salt mate.

11 Apr 2018 11:06:56
No worries Park mate. Keep on posting, I totally agree, there is so much nonense in the media about Jose, United, transfers etc, it's a waste of time reading it.

11 Apr 2018 15:57:17
Back to the op the website that ran the Messi story also had a story today that Jose wants to sell Rasford to Madrid for 100mil.