Manchester United Banter Archive June 11 2015

11 Jun 2015 23:41:49
last season
falcao got 4 goals in 26 games for united.
and 5 goals in 6 games for Columbia

rooney got 14 goals in 37 games for united.
and 9 goals in 16 for england

messi got 58 in 57 for barcelona and 8 in 14 for Argentina.

ronaldo got 61 in 54 for games for madrid and 5 goals in 10 games fir Portugal.

ive said it before ,wouldnt want to be a striker in this united team

11 Jun 2015 23:53:03
JRed I know you are trying to put the spotlight on Rooney and Falcao here but let's just sit back for a moment and look at those Messi and Ronaldo stats. Unreal.

12 Jun 2015 00:02:24
Falcao five in six for Colombia against Bahrain , Kuwait , El Salvador and Costa Rica

12 Jun 2015 00:03:00
We don't create enough chances, that's clear. Players like Higuain and Benzema would flop just as much as Flacao did.

12 Jun 2015 00:13:27
jmb
costa 21 goals in 34 for chelsea 1 in 7 games for spain.
aguero 32 goals in 40 for city , 5 in 12 games for the argies

12 Jun 2015 04:18:13
Some great numbers there mate. I personally rate Costa very highly maybe even more so than Aguero but his fitness worries me. If do get a new striker in it will very interesting to see who we lean towards and where that leaves Rooney on the pitch.

Having seen the way LVG utilised those long diagonal balls to Felliani all season I honestly wouldn't be surprised if links with the likes of Mandzukic (who wouldn't be in my top ten by any means) actually has some legs.

12 Jun 2015 07:26:43
I don't think he was putting the spotlight on Falcao and Rooney. More putting the spotlight on the fact that we've not being doing enough to create goals for 2 obviously world class strikers. Falcao didn't turn awful, and nor did Rooney, but can it honestly be said that the team created in the same way as Barca or Real?

12 Jun 2015 09:41:33
And what were CR7's stats for his last season at utd?

12 Jun 2015 10:12:40
Think it was about 26 goals in 50 odd appearances but the year before was 42 goals. Worth remembering most were from the wing. There is a reason that he is the only United player to win the Ballon D'or since George Best.

12 Jun 2015 10:26:02
mbd
in his last season at united ronaldo got 26 goals in 53 games for united.
and 2 goals in 15 for Portugal.

not sure what that has to do with anything ?

12 Jun 2015 11:34:08
Just wanted to know.

11 Jun 2015 22:21:27
If RVP is to leave and we carry on playing with 1 striker, which will be Rooney, the problem is getting someone in good enough who is willing to be a bench warmer. Doesn't sound like benzema, Cavani etc. will be up for that role. Unless we are changing formation to accommodate 2 strikers I only see an up and comer like a Mitrovic being signed, RVP to stay might be best in this case tho I doubt he will be happy bench warning either.

11 Jun 2015 23:05:35
we started the season with
wilson who much was expected off.
falcao who many thought could be one of the best in europe again
rvp who many thought was our best striker
rooney.

falcao has now gone ( so there is room for a top striker.
wilson may well get a loan.
rvp may well leave.

there is plenty of room.

just more "if we don't sell rooney the world will end " imo

12 Jun 2015 09:43:37
Chicharito?

12 Jun 2015 11:18:07
Totally missing my point jred, I've stated Rooney will be number 1 striker so what top striker can we get in who is willing to be on the bench cz that's where they'll be in this system a lot of the time.
IMO this is just a reply to kick off another Rooney debate which I've no interest in. So just read what I'm asking and offer an answer if you want if not then don't respond.

12 Jun 2015 15:29:45
Welsh Red

You need 2 top strikers and 2 more pretty good strikers as a top club to play at the highest level, given the domestic and european competitions and number of games.

I would not worry even if we ended up buying 2 top strikers as what we have in RVP is someone who is on the decline, Hernandez is not suited at all to our style of play and will be sold as his hold up play and passing is not great and Wilson is still a baby.

12 Jun 2015 18:59:15
I agree you do and with Falcao gone, chicharito prob leaving, RVP perhaps, maybe Wilson out on loan.
A benzema, Cavani won't want to play second fiddle, so my point isn't get rid of Rooney it's who, as in a top striker, do we think will come in as a number 2 striker?

11 Jun 2015 19:29:05
I have never seen Andreas Pereira play apart from the Carling cup outing.
I can't see U21s here in India and I would like to know what type of a player he is, if anyone has been watching him.
Is he Lacey, technical, how good a shot he has? Is he a winger or an AM?

11 Jun 2015 20:24:39
Unfortunately he's an am. So looking at our past record with those(kagawa, anderson,mata), he's doomed.

11 Jun 2015 17:03:02
With only two years left on his contract perhaps we will see Goetze move this summer? Not lived up to exoectations at bayern. Anybody have info on this? Eds?

Thanks

{Ed007's Note - You need to take this kind of non Man Utd stuff to our Euro Soccer Rumours page.

11 Jun 2015 17:21:54
We have Mata, who is very similar and hardly pulls up trees in this system. I'd give him a swerve.

11 Jun 2015 16:11:43
Here you go AJH, I think you will like my current profile picture ;)

11 Jun 2015 18:04:59
To be honest MB, anything is an improvement on the smiling poop you had before

11 Jun 2015 18:33:59
Haha, true dat.

11 Jun 2015 13:21:20
Much like Wallace i feel i should try my luck at predicting the unpredictable. So here it goes:

GK: Lloris or no-one. Van Gaal trusts Valdes and see's him as a massive presence in the dressing room, don't see why he would jeopardize that buy buying a new GK possibly making Valdes want to leave. Although, if he does feel he needs a new keeper, then i have a strong feeling it will be Lloris. he wants CL football and realizes he will not get it with Tottenham. Just hope Levy doesn't reach so far into our back pockets that he is touching our heels.

CB's: i feel there will be one very good CB to partner Smalling and one lesser CB to grow. The reason i think only one quality CB is because i feel LvG likes Smalling a lot. He gave him the captains armband for a game last season and i think he see's talent in him. The partner will be Otamendi, it's just a matter of time in my eyes. The links with that cheeky bugger Rojo and the fact he seems to want to leave indicates that he will be on the move. The lesser CB i feel will be either Van Dijk, who openly admitted he wants to leave Celtic to boost his chances for the Holland squad, by playing European football with a big team (Manchester United) or Someone unknown.

CM wise. i honestly cannot predict. Schweinstiger seems to be moving possibly because he is chatting with his agent about his future today or tomorrow, but then again that could mean his future is with Bayern. Gundogan will prefer a move to Barca than us, and they can buy people now. (STUPID FIFA TRANSFER BULLSH*T) just not register them until January. Nainggolan has too much of a complicated ownership for our liking, so pushing the boat out here, i'm gunna say, watch out for a strootman bid.

Wingers. Possibly a young'en that won't start, again maybe unknown.

ST: Cavani is my guess, he wants to play up front and not the wing, with Ibra probably leaving he thought he would have got a good run but PSG seem to have agreed Lacazette so he is again just being shunted. Woiuld love him personally. Also watch for Muller because of that 'Special and unusual relationship him and LvG have. ;) Also on a very outside chance watch for a Chich return, LvG said to Rooney that he wants him to have as little as 10 touches a match, now we know Rooney isn't strong when he has little of the ball and will probably get frustrated. Chich is quality and being a one touch finisher and running in behind, maybe LvG will see this?

Out's are: RvP (Regular football), Nani (Regular football), Evans (Regular football/Forced Out), DDG (Real Madrid), Rafael (Too injury prone and LvG doesn't rate him)

Lemme know your guesses.

11 jun 2015 13:49:23
disclosure: these are my guesses and not who i want

11 Jun 2015 14:34:27
I have to agree, but RVP could stay.

Lloris or Valdes will be our number 1. I can see Otamendi coming in and one of Schweinsteiger or Schneiderlin. Cavani or Higuain are probably the most likely strikers.

11 Jun 2015 14:25:28
I think Lloris, Clyne, Otamendi, Naingollan, Depay, Mitrovic. Out DDG, Evans, Rafael, Hernandez and Nani.

11 Jun 2015 15:20:44
We will buy a major Striker.

11 Jun 2015 15:41:24
Asmir over Lloris any day and cech over both!
Mandzukic ove Cavani and Vietto over either!
Scneiderlin i hope and a study level headed beast at CB!

11 Jun 2015 15:46:23
Like your thinking fella. Maybe some emerging youngsters also: pereira seems to be doing well in tournament

11 Jun 2015 16:44:17
Have we all given up on Benzema? Ed002 has been saying for months that Real are looking to move him on

11 Jun 2015 12:30:51
Messi On Rooney

""If you look at the technical ability of a player like Wayne Rooney, he is as good as any player in Europe," Messi commented. "Rooney has exceptional quality. Not just great technical ability, but also works very hard for his team. I'm sure Manchester United will never want to let him leave, though."

I guess we should sell him to improve our team :))

11 Jun 2015 12:56:06
We all are often guilty of overlooking what Rooney does for us. He is better as a number 10 than he is a striker though and with the current formation that is a problem.

11 Jun 2015 13:02:01
All the idiots will probably discredit this and still slate Rooney but will probably jump to Scholes' defence with similar quotes from other players. Gets overlooked time and time again, hopefully, just maybe, in 10 or so years people will realise he's one of the greatest players to ever play for us.

11 Jun 2015 13:09:15
Well according to Messi, Di Maria was the best player in the world last year, so I'm not too convinced of the astuteness of his judgement.

Rooney is a top player and was certainly one of our better attacking players. But for his wages you would expect a player who can step up and change the course of a game with a moment of genuine class. To be honest, Rooney just doesn't step up enough to warrant his cost. If you had a choice between the likes of Rooney, Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, Robben, Bale, Suarez, do you think anyone would pick Rooney on pure footballing ability?

11 Jun 2015 13:25:09
Ok then, me, beast and about 50% of United supporters must all be idiots then. It's an opinion based site, we're all entitled to one even if it's not in line with yours or others. I think, in my opinion, Rooney is overhyped, not world class and for the betterment of the club he needs to move on. He has his attributes of course but they are having less and less impact. You and the other half see things differently and that's fine.

11 Jun 2015 13:28:05
Not knocking Rooney but since when did Messi become the greatest footballing professor? He is a great player, probably the best but he is no coach that's for sure. If Messi says dribble the ball off a cliff would you?

11 Jun 2015 13:48:17
I take all these player comments with a pinch of salt. Who knows why Messi would say this, maybe they just did a sponsorship thing together, maybe Rooney's accountant is helping Messi, maybe Messi is referring to the Rooney he watched pre 2012, there could be a myriad of reasons.

All I know is that Rooney is not in the top 20 strikers I would sign.

11 Jun 2015 13:48:46
manager after manager pick him , infact make him captain (as he is the first name on the team sheet).

but fans on here don't rate him .
should also say this is the only place I've seen him get stick.

i honestly think people don't appreciate what they have , rooney has been at the club that long that people have got bored of him , they want an exciting new toy .

last summer many doubted he would be a lvg player.
many thought he would be dropped from the england team even .
yet 2 different managers with different styles make him captain and the first name on the team sheet.

people just want a new shiny toy to get excited about

11 Jun 2015 14:14:03
Well I've heard get stick from here, the terraces, in the pubs etc. and it's because a lot have the same opinion. Rooney is lauded simply because he's English, same reason he's always picked and he's captain of the national team because he's most senior and England's greatest hope.

11 Jun 2015 13:55:54
danny
once they step on the pitch what does it matter what they get paid

11 Jun 2015 13:56:32
Good question Danny, I'd choose them all over Rooney, and not sure any could argue too much, but only if it was a younger Robben, prob not now so much. The rest though are a no brainer for me. And Rooney is a much much better striker than number 10 Fresh, behave yourself fella.

11 Jun 2015 14:28:17
Its nothing to do with that Jred imo - Scoring a player out of 10 without knowing the name, Rooney would score a 6 most games of the season probably less for England.

Moyes was weak, Hodgson is weaker. LVG I think has a screw loose.

SAF wanted rid of him and he has forgotten more than those 3 will ever know.

He hasn't played very well for a long time, there is no consistency. He is the definition of a player living off their reputation. All it is with Rooney is that enough people said something and it became a rule, "Rooney is the best player England has", "Rooney is the only World Class player and talisman". The papers needed it, the broadcast media needed it, England as a nation needed it. That was 10 years ago!

I remember 4-5 years ago there being regular debates everywhere about the best 3 players in the world and Rooney often came just below Messi & Ronaldo. However those debates never include Rooney anymore, even our own media are starting to say we have "no world class English players at the moment". We are just desperate as a nation and as a club at the minute. It's the same as looking at Mrs World 1980 and saying she is still hot, because 2 or 3 dirty old men keep wanting to have a bit of fun with her.

He doesn't stand out at anything, no aspect of his game is great, he is an above average player now and slowly slipping into mediocrity the more I watch him.

Moyes, LVG and Hodgson are not impartial, they are all or were desperate. The only person who wasn't was SAF.

He doesn't deserve the special treatment, the wages or the attention - the reason he gets it is because of who he was and how poor Utd and England currently are.

11 Jun 2015 14:01:45
Rooney is one of my favorite player . Maybe after he retires people will know how important he was to us . Not only in field but commercially as well

11 Jun 2015 14:50:02
If he were to leave, would you be happy if he were to sign for chelsea? If you would then maybe we should sell him. If not, (my choice) as he would make them stronger, then maybe it's a stupid debate.

sorry if this offends anyone but I keep seeing this come up and thought it was time to add my 2 cents.

11 Jun 2015 15:07:26
The point jred, is that clubs have limited money, and if you're spending over £15.5m per year on a player, you expect him to be offering something really special. It's not about a new shiny toy, it's asking if Rooney should be main man at the club or the first name on the sheet.

Rooney is a very good player, but the moment he steps out onto the pitch he isn't offering as much as other players in his wage bracket. I couldn't see any other club paying him as much as we do, and I think he has lost a lot of his explosive power over the last few years. I see Rooney as a player who will always put in the effort and occasionally put in excellent performances. But he doesn't drive the team in the way Suarez did at Liverpool, or Bale at Spurs, or Messi at Barca. It was telling toward the end of the season that when we were struggling to score and needed some attacking driven, Rooney didn't step up. World class players make a team tic, Rooney only plays well when the rest of the team is.

11 Jun 2015 15:15:04
"All I know is that Rooney is not in the top 20 strikers I would sign."

Beast you must be having a laugh. List your 20 strikers ahead of him please and make sure it does not have Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez, Ageuro and some of the guys that we all know are not available and pie in the sky stuff. Easily top 10 striker for me.

Rooney is a proven PL league top top player and I am a little amused by how people just dismiss that. He will score 20 goals every season if we had a fix for our midfield and played him where he should play.

I am amused by people going gaga over players like Griezman every transfer window as he is no better than Lamela or Jovetic were and look at how they have turned out.

Said 2 1/2 years ago the 3 vs will fix us Verrati, Varrane, Vidal and still believe that. The reality is many of the players the rubbish press reports our interest in the current transfer market are not good enough to replace what we already have. So buying for the sake of buying is just stupid.

11 Jun 2015 15:16:34
Topbomin who would he replace at Chelsea for the first 11? Fabregas? Hazard? Costa? Oscar? I honestly don't think he'd be a first choice for them unless they play 2 up top, which Jose is unlikely to do. If you asked Chelsea fans if they would want Rooney instead of one of those mentioned, I'm sure to a man/woman they would stick with who they have.

11 Jun 2015 15:17:03
beast
hodgson lvg and moyes are not impartial ? r u.
fergy picked rooney when fit.
these people worked with him day in day out.

never mind messi and co .
rooney is our best player i could name 10 people to sell before him.

im right in thinking you rate and want to keep rafael, but want to sell rooney ?
you also rate and wanted to keep welbeck but sell rooney.

danny
good question ? if we apply that to every player we will only have ddg left.


rooney has been our best outfield player and people want to sell him.
like i said shiny new toys .
people will be shouting for kagawa next

11 Jun 2015 15:25:54
Him going to Chelsea or a City would be a nightmare for us. He would score 25 goals a season and people around here would go into hiding :Imagine him having the Silva's, Nasri's, Aguero's or Oscar, Hazzard's and febregas servicing him.

I do agree silly debate and i posted messi's comments because after all he has played against the best and would know better than most of us who are arm chair quarterbacks lol. Funny Ronaldo also thinks along the same lines.

11 Jun 2015 15:36:28
danny
any top player would want top cash plus a 40 mill fee.
on the pitch rooney is one of our best players.
until a player comes to the club or england for that matter and forces him out of the team i don't see a problem.

many though kagawa would but he wasnt good enough .
i don't think the 40 mill mata has been any better.

united will know what rooney is worth to the club both on and off the field , they offered him a contract and pay him what they feel he is worth .
whats the issue ?
we have plenty of money and will continue to buy top players .
until there is a better player on the bench than rooney and one that deserves to be in the starting 11 i have no issue.
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11 Jun 2015 15:49:42
Isnt it possible that a team could have a world class(arguable) player that DOES NOT suit the team's play?
We rant on and on about how adm is not suited for possession play. Well, is rooney?
Barca have sold players in their primes because they felt the players didn't suit the tactics. And we can see the results.

11 Jun 2015 16:10:53
You could say Kags and Mata weren't/aren't better than him or good enough or you could say due to the 'Rooney must play regardless' ethic of moyes and LVG you could say mata and kagawa have been held back/hampered by accommodating Rooney at all cost, after all SAF vision was kagawa behind RVP and Wayne sold.
I agree with everything Beast just said.

11 Jun 2015 17:07:53
When did Messi last play against Rooney?

11 Jun 2015 17:15:21
welsh
kagawa had numerous chances and didn't have 1 good 90 minutes.
fergy had kagawa rooney and rvp if fit rooney played simple as .
the season before we signed kags rooney had just scored 34 goals and was by far our best player.
united agreed a deal with kagawa during that season .
i think kags was bought to play off rooney .
then in the summer rvp was available and fergy said it was to good to turn down.
leaving kags the odd man out .

as for mata he has done ok but not enough to really convince lvg or moyes.

11 Jun 2015 17:15:57
I'm not rooneys biggest fan but he is our best player. Like Jred said every manager picks him.

I just wish he would be a more consistent striker. But United have to take some blame for that too.

11 Jun 2015 17:24:47
beast
when did you play against rooney

11 Jun 2015 17:27:33
Shock horror another Rooney debate.must.not. comment.

Ah to hell with it, sell him while we can. lol

11 Jun 2015 17:39:44
Beast didn't utd play barca in a pre season game in 2012 (cant be sure rooney and messi played) but othrf than that it would probably be 2011 cl final.

11 Jun 2015 18:25:58
Yes Kagawa uprooted trees when he played in his "preferred" No 10 role. People talk about SAF's vision like they know the man better than others yet forget that Rooney played more matches than Kagawa that season, in the "No 10" role. May be SAF can now be termed clueless? Its exactly like Jred says, "shiny new toys". By the way when you see Shahram, who is not Wayne's biggest fan defend him, you know that the thread has agenda posting at it's best from a few.

Deeps.

11 Jun 2015 18:28:45
By the way, I completely agree with the 3 Vs that Shahram thinks would fix us. Varane is excellent by the way, best young defender in the world.

Deeps.

11 Jun 2015 18:39:18
At least he has had full seasons for the last two years more so than RVP

11 Jun 2015 19:00:10
I have no agenda, I just say it as I see it and have an opinion, if people disagree more power to ya, what I dislike however is if someone dare have a different view it's criticised and were idiots or have agendas, comes across as we're not worthy of being a united fan or we know it all, think people just need to let others have a viewpoint.

11 Jun 2015 19:43:04
I have not called you names buddy, if you have an agenda, you don't like a player! I don't have a problem with it, because its not like you don't like me. IMO you have an agenda with Rooney, does not make you any less of a poster. Sorry, if my first post came across as condescending. You can have a viewpoint as much as me or anyone else. What's with these Rooney debates?

Deeps.

11 Jun 2015 22:13:51
They do get heated don't they deeps ha. I don't have an agenda with Rooney just an opinion, however likelihood is he's here to stay and I'll support him.

12 Jun 2015 10:29:09
There are really people that want to let rooney go? the rooney that is currently third top goalscorer in HISTORY of Manchester united, 19 goals behind the great SIR BOBBY CHARLTON.

WOW didn't know Man Utd were the sort to turn there backs on a player that has done so much for the club. works tirelessly for us when a lot of strikers are just lazy til they think they can score.

yes he didn't play that well last year but did anyone (apart from carrick because he is amazing).

did he really get the service that would have allowed him to score 20+ goals?

think anyone that wants to sell rooney is deluded.

RANT OVER

11 Jun 2015 11:09:21
So today we are on the brink of Rodrigo Durado deal. so what's count now?? I guess 37th players agreed. Don't know if we are allowed to keep and nominate this huge team.

11 Jun 2015 10:06:23
Is Ron Vlaar out of contract? Could still be a decent back up once Evans leaves.

11 Jun 2015 10:49:24
I believe so. He would bring some good experience and knows the PL, he also knows LVG. Sensible all round for me, I would also ship Jones out, his contract is up for renewal in 2016 I believe, not worth a new one.

Everton or Newcastle would be perfect for Evans & Jones.

11 Jun 2015 10:58:35
I would be fine with Vlaar if he's the last choice CB.
We injure a lot of player every season by playing them out of position. I would really want to us to sign a new CB if we are going to let Jones go. Or maybe if we think of shifting Jones to RB as he hasn't been the CB which was expected of him.

11 Jun 2015 11:04:42
He would give the physio some company anyway. Why does everyone like Vlaar? He is painfully slow and can't play two games in a row. He has never played at a big club and has very little European experience and no CL experience aged 29 - if Ron Vlaar is in our sights then I'm worried.

11 Jun 2015 11:11:05
I think you may be right about Jones to be honest Beast which is a shame as he could have been really good. Smalling, Ottamendi, Vlaar and Rojo should be enough for a run in all competitions.

11 Jun 2015 11:42:37
Fresh read the post, I said as a back up for when Evans goes. He would be fourth choice but is decent enough to cover lesser games and rest our main players so they don't end up crocked for months on end. Plus he is free.

11 Jun 2015 11:53:39
4th choice CB ? yes !
regular ?? no!

11 Jun 2015 12:18:49
Nobody would want him as first choice, but an experienced/leader who understand the manager and the PL is a no brainer compared with Jones and Evans.

I think we all agree we need a better CB than Vlaar to compete, but it is a sensible deal.

11 Jun 2015 12:57:45
I think I would rather keep Jones on balance. But yes, definitley instead of Evans, but then again I'd have Distin instead of Evans, poor poor defender.

11 Jun 2015 07:54:08
In the absence of any decent rumours, and while we wait for July 1st, when Woodward will parade a whole team of grinning, scarf-waving recruits at OT, thought I'd pin my colours to the mast and reveal my predictions for transfer incoming for this Summer.

These are based on credible sources derived from my addiction to newspaper transfer gossip columns (including the legends Ogden and Jackson), slipping onto other Rumours sites to see what the Eds are saying, and speaking to a friend of a mate whose uncle once served Van Gaal on Free Pudding before Six night at Wings restaurant.

IN:

GK: Lloris (Dropping lots of hints about wanting to play in CL to advance career)

CD: Otamendi (keen to join, great mates Rojo)

RB: Clyne (apparently Lovren sent him text saying don't come to Liverpool)

DM: Schneiderlin (Apparently "head been turned" like that girl in the Exorcist and also some Brazilian "carrick replacement" called Dourado later on)

LW: Depay (good feeling about this one)

Striker: Higuain (Benzema not keen on moving, unless he's told to go)

OUT:

Van Persie, Hernandez, Nani, DG obv, Evans, Rafael, Di Maria

11 Jun 2015 09:03:50
I don't think ADM will move to be honest I can't see us cutting our losses on a record fee like that. That aside I do think they are all realistic and do seem to be the ones most touted from various sources but I think a lot will change by September and more random names will be thrown into the mix.

11 Jun 2015 09:58:46
I agree with everything apart from Di Maria going.

That would be a very strong summer. Never heard of Dourado.

Nani should be going.

11 Jun 2015 11:14:01
Fresh, do you think we will keep Nani? Maybe a backup to Depay but I can't see him staying, I suppose much depends on the next wave of players we sign.

11 Jun 2015 13:02:41
No we will not keep Nani. I think our options for the wide positions will be Depay, Di Maria, Young and Mata - I think Januzaj will get a season long loan move. I'd like to see him go to Newcastle to work under McLaren.

11 Jun 2015 01:15:13
I'd be pretty happy with MU going for : Van Dijk and maybe Wanyama to flesh out the squad a bit (probably $10mill each) then throwing a bit of money at a Gundogan, a proven striker (quite like the Bacca link) and a top CB - My personal choice if available would be Godin from Atleti - scores a lot of goals too.
RB not sure but definitely undecided on Clyne.
The above would be around $100mill total and would add 6 players to the squad.

11 Jun 2015 07:06:01
Yes I am sure the Saints will part with Wanyama for less than they paid for him now that he is twice the player he was.