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11 May 2013 23:03:59
To be honest I think after the last few days it would have been better if giggs had made this his final season aswell
I have to disagree, still one of the best left wingers in the league on his day, puts Ashley Young to shame.
We need a couple of Veterans for this season as it will be Moyes' first season and will help.
11 May 2013 21:47:59
The ed on the Liverpool page just claimed that we were close to signing Jonathan Williams in January but didn't because he wanted more playing time and knew he would get that at Crystal Palace. Mixed in with Rio's comments the other day, does anyone see a potential move perhaps with him being loaned back there for a season?
Sparky
11 May 2013 22:37:30
Paul Scholes take a bow son. Feckin hell how many times are my eyes going to well up this week. One of thee very best I've seen in my lifetime.
Just hope he passes on his knowledge to the others at the club and becomes a coach for a long time at old Trafford.
Supasub
Scholes is such a class act and what a modest star player he was, an honor to watch him play. It would have been nice if Giggs had called it a career at the same time.
Every kid who dreams of becoming a footballer shoul be made to watch Scholseys performance against Fulham at OT a couple of seasons ago (he scored)but if ever a player deserved a 10 out of ten rating then this was it all his talent expressed that night and his ability to be swivelling his head looking for that pass when the ball was on the way to him could only be appreciated by seeing him live
Thank you Paul Scholes from a fan that wrote you off 5years ago
Dylan
11 May 2013 22:16:33
Question. Should Scholes be part of the coaching staff for Moyes?
Yes. He would offer so much to the younger players and hopefully could rub off some of his magic onto the youngsters.
11 May 2013 20:25:48
So looking forward to tomorrow, just checked into old etap hotel now ibis at salford quays flew in from florida this morning as live there now and glad I blew chelsea game out and decided to go last game of season going to be emotional day but a happy one absolutely knackered but worth every penny. well mrs don't think so but hey ho. GGMU
I thought the treck from south wales was impressive but looks like you've trumped me.
Tissues at the ready for tomorrow.
TM i'm also from south wales which part you from?
DIO
Near Newport towards the Chepstow area.
Was happy to see County get promoted to league 2
Im from newport very happy to see thm in league football again
DIO
11 May 2013 20:08:28
Well done and well deserved Wigan. City end up with nothing, what a shame! Puts things into perspective though, money does not equal guaranteed success. Hope we have a keen eye on two of Wigan rank, midfield and right wing. The season just gets better. A fitting send off for King Alex and a welcome to our new man DM.
11 May 2013 19:58:19
Hi Guys
Now that the side show is out of the way and well done to Wigan they thoroughly deserved to win my mind is already turning to tomorrow and what I'm sure will be a very emotional day at Old Trafford. Fergie deserves every plaudit he has got and everything that is coming his way tomorrow. I hope the players go out and give him the perfect send off with a big win the Manchester United way. I for one will have a tear in my eye tomorrow but all good things come to an end. I think we all should get behind David Moyes and give him the same support we gave the great man.
Bazza The Red
11 May 2013 19:51:38
After all, my early suggestion on Roberto Martinez for manager doesn't seem to be a bad option now. Credit to Wigan for winning the FA cup and playing good football.
Anyway I believe our club has appointed the right man and let's meet them in community shield :)
Forgot to login in my last post
11 May 2013 19:46:06
One good thing about Moyes becoming manager I think there's no chance the Glazers will skimp on money for transfers
If they do that will only mean he gets sacked early doors
11 May 2013 19:42:23
Birmingham, Swansea and Wigan, all with smaller budgets than Everton and all with trophies!. Food for thought.
And what does that prove? So you sayin luadrup Martinez or mcleash are better managers than moyes? Or they had easier cup runs than Everton. Wow some coments are just daft he now manages Manchester utd a very different animal to Everton. United99
Should post a name before a statement, makes it more interesting
Its harder to finish around 6th in the premier league to get on a good run and win a cup, whilst meeting lower league teams on the way.
Stop with these silly posts, Everton were unlucky to not be in the final last year due to Liverpool.
11 May 2013 20:19:32
Come to think of it, Wigan defeated MOYES' Everton at GOODISON on their way to the final.
Yes but wigan likely to go down what would you prefer?
First post here hi all, food for thought, r u for real, maybe Martinez should have got the job and Ben Watson ( no disrespect) to complete our midfield.
11 May 2013 19:37:14
(banter post)
Got to love this Wigan side. Deserved victory, and even great football. What amazes me, is how good they are with the ball. Small passing game, finding spaces. How they opened up for McManaman was impressive. Amazes me though, how this is possible from a team that may go down this season. Its not like they did this just today. I have watched the last 3-4 Wigan games. McManaman was ripping Clichy a new one every time. What is even better, they held of City. so now all they can brag about is the Community Shield. This may mean good bye to Manchini, which frighten me is a way, cause City will be so much better with another manager (most of them, anyway).
Anyways, congrats to Wigan. Well deserved!
11 May 2013 19:33:08
Let us put another nail in the coffin. Tomorrow we raise the 20th title in SAF final home match!
11 May 2013 19:30:22
The more and more I think about it, David Moyes may be the best manager we could have gone for.
But some people are making him out to be a a complete div! I am pretty sure he will be bringing a lot to the team such as high fitness training and much faster fluid football.
I for one am sad to say goodbye to Fergie but on the other hand I am excited for the future, next season will be very very different.
100% agree Jake man! With the money and a better depth of squad I reckon he will do a very good job!
Tommy!
Don't understand a lot of the comments. Have to admit initially I was slightly underwhelmed but the choice makes sense and ultimately I think it's the right one.
The way Everton have played at times, especially at home where they played a very high pressure game is good to watch, don't see where this 'bad football' impression is coming from.
I'm excited to see what he can do with the might of Manchester United behind him.
11 May 2013 19:26:27
What a wonderful day up the Wigan
Well it is a blue day
Ross
11 May 2013 19:22:21
Have a really soft spot for Wigan. Weird that they may be in the Championship and compete in Europe. Hopefully they'll stay up though!
11 May 2013 19:21:24
Touch of class from Kompany and Mancini, both pausing to talk to Dave Whelan when they must have been hurting. Try as I might I can't dislike Mancini, I find him really likeable.
Kompany I agree but Mancini no way pedro, Mancini didn't congratulate Wigan in his interview and didn't say Wigan was the better side, good riddance
He does seem to come across as a decent man. I hope he stays at City because they should hopefully continue to muck up their chances to win games.
;)
11 May 2013 19:21:00
That has put the icing on the cake. Well done Wigan. Congrats to a decent club owned and managed by decent people. Well done.
City, crawl back into your hole.
Nomidfield
11 May 2013 19:17:01
Atleast Wigan playing City off the pitch today and deservedly winning the FA cup has added a much more positive side of this week.
It shows money can't always win you everything.
I saw someone say that the whole Wigan team costs £11 Million and Gareth Barry cost £12 Million. Says it all. {Ed007's Note - Wigan Athletic's starting XI cost £11.5m. Man City's starting XI cost £187m.
Hats of to wigan they deservedly won the game. Like you said money doesn't always buy you things and this is a great example. Needed something like this to cheer up.
Singh
Looks like charity sheild will most likely be moyes first trophy then
Have you not learnt anything from the game just played no name? ( yes I know irony)
I was in a pub when Wigan to play City in the final was announced everbody thaught it was going to be a walkover I had confidence in wigan
Paddy,
When it was announced? I don't think they do a draw for the final!
My local soccer team had won the league some off the guys said Wigan had won there semi final and that they would be playing city in the final so the team captain during his speech said it would be a walkover that's why I said it was announced
11 May 2013 19:15:23
I must say, Dave Whelan deserves that. Well done to Wigan, deserved the win. Buzzing for them!
11 May 2013 19:14:28
Wigan- Deserved every ounce of it. I truly hope they stay in the PL.
11 May 2013 19:12:04
Yesssss! City said we couldn't count or community shield, can they? NO! Congratulations Wigan and Roberto Martinez, the most I've ever celebrated a goal we haven't scored! We should have a look at McManaman every time I've seen him he's been incredible so direct wouldn't be to expensive we should have a look, but come on Wigan amazing the magic of the cup!
Caol�n.
11 May 2013 19:10:03
Get in Wigan, city go potless ha ha ha
Brendan81
11 May 2013 19:08:12
hope wigan stays in the league
nikz
I hope you ask that question in jest? United99
11 May 2013 19:08:11
If Everton get Martinez to replace Moyes then who exactly is getting the better deal Everton or United? I wonder.
People say moyes will play better football with better players but that begs the question how good could Martinez be at a top club as his team's have always played good football.
Moyes Martinez which manager has the most potential, who's style of football would you like to see us play next year
Jred
Good question :)
So if Wigan get relegated, which is highly likely, which manager do you think will be better suited for us?
Does anybody remember how many 1-0 Mourinho used to get at Chelsea and how boring they looked but had a fortress at the back.
Shahram
Martinez is still young, if he goes to Everton hopefully he can win more trophies and maybe, just maybe he will be Moyes' successor?
Martinez has worked wonders to keep Wigan in the EPL for so long so them possibly being relegated will not change that he is proving himself to be a very very good manager.
11 May 2013 18:53:15
Eds This is my first post. How do you think Moyes's appointment will affect our transfer strategy?
DPB {Ed002's Note - Not significantly. I am expecting Fellaini to be of interest.}
Ed I hope so
Jred
Moyes is bound to have his own ideas! I hope Rooney stays to play off RVP (or as a ACM) but would be more than happy with Lewendoski and RVP up front. I like the look of Strootman and would be happy with Fellaini as a midfielder but not as a replacement for Wayne.
DPB
11 May 2013 18:35:40
Some of the posters on here amaze me.
Moyes wouldn't have been my first choice but its not as if he's been managing the dog and duck is it? People are concerned that moyes will mean the end of our fast attacking football. these are the same people who spent all season moaning that were boring to watch! too many people just waiting for him to fail. Like I said it wouldn't have been my first choice but judging by some of the comments on here youd think we just appointed father dougal. ridiculous.
BABY FACED ASSASIN
We played average football and hoofed it upfield to RVP in so many games, so don't understand it either.
Watched Everton quite a few times and they played very nice football. Their issue is they don't have the calibre of the strikers we have and can't afford them.
Shahram
Purely because I wanted an English, oops well Scotlandshire is the biggest county in England right? manager Moyes was my choice too.
My biggest wishes; we sign 2 world class mids and a left back/wingback.
P. S. I live in Scotland and if my girl sees this I'm dead.
11 May 2013 19:26:43
People seem to think that managers can only play a certain way. A good manager plays to his teams strengths. That's what Moyes did at Preston and Everton. A higher calibre of player and a deeper, stronger squad means higher celibre of football. The guy isn't an person, and has been around for a long time. He has so many attributes that belong in a Manchester United manager. He will respect the clubs traditions and understands the club, the league, the players and the rivalries.
There are other managers, who's teams play more 'fashionable' football, but they don't have some of the things Moyes does.
moyes wasn't my first choice, but I think he is the right man for the job.
This isn't football manager, or pro evolution or FIFA for that matter, this is very much real life, and the stability of the club through this massive change comes first in my eyes and I think Moyes is the right man to deliver it.
Whistler.
Hoofed it up to RVP? You, my friend are talking through your arse.
At least leave a name. No you are right we played fluid football on par with Dortmund and Bayern. We really put so many team to the sword and the volume of goals and assists coming from our wingers and midfielders proves that.
Shahram
I think Moyes will buy Bains and Moutinho and sell the players that aren't up to scratch but that's just me
Forgot to sign in last time so my apologies. So there are only 2 levels of passing in football now. Hoofing the ball or passing like Bayern / Dortmund. I never said we were on a par with Bayern or Dortmund passing wise. You did however say we hoofed the ball upfield, which as far as I'm concerned is absolute nonsense.
I guess you have been watching a different team. We have had a very poor midfield and have not been able to keep possession well all season. In so many games we have played with 9 or 10 men defending deep and hitting long balls for RVP.
Recommend you watch some of the games. teams like Chelsea and arsenal have much better interlink up and build up play and yes I do realize we won the league by a country mile playing the way we have.
Shahram
11 May 2013 18:16:56
The PSV coach said that Strootman should leave PSV to further his career and that he is 'as good as Gareth Barry'
What great endorsement that is.
DHK
Quality
If he's as good as Gareth Barry, I don't want him at United. The words slow and limited spring to mind.
11 May 2013 18:15:41
I'm looking forward to seeing fatty Ando next season if we don't sell him in the summer, he is the exct opposite of everton players fat and shagged out
Pardoe
I'm thinking that Moyes's training regime will either kill him or finally get him fit.
AJH
LMAOF
Shahram
AJH, classic reply!
I hope this could be a turning point for Anderson. He has had so many chances though, so I won't be too fussed seeing him leave.
-JakeW
11 May 2013 18:15:33
Ed is there any change with interest regarding Bale? Normally when ex players suddenly start bigging up the player for the team then we have an interest. Also Villas Boas telling Moyes hand off.
Dan {Ed002's Note - No.}
11 May 2013 18:08:47
Many talk about McCarthy but I would like to see our scouting report on Calum McManaman. I recall watching a young man in the early nineties that had a similar look and that was Roy Keane. No way suggesting that McManaman is at that level but I have seen some good things from him, he has a good build and reasonable pace, some skills and after that tackle weeks ago he has come through and is showing some decent work in an FA Cup final so his temperament could be good. I wonder if he could play centrally but none the less we should have looked more closely than the couple of times I have seen him
Red Man
Well he has got city's defender is sixes and sevens and very impressive. Better than anyone we have on the wings currently. We never get much against cliche but he seems to be able to twist and turn him at will.
Shahram
Red man, it was Everton who released macmanaman of my memory serves me right.
Nomidfield
Nomidfield
Moyes should know him then!
Red Man
NoMidfield
Nice dig at DM lol. The season is over and enjoy the last two games. Are you wishing he fails. It will come down 2 how much funds he is given to buy in the summer.
As I write this Wigan just won the FA cup and I am delighted for them and for my account at lads. I posted here sometime ago that I put a bet on them before the semis but in all honesty very happy for the.
What a year, swansea win the league cup, wigan the FA cup and we comeback roaring with not the most attractive football and win the league hands down and the great man retires.
Let's see what the future brings. Goodbye Roberto Mancini
Shahram
11 May 2013 17:34:31
Henriquez to come on and win the cup for Wigan. Would love to see it.
Maloney is a quality player not united standard but really should be playing for a better team.
11 May 2013 17:16:37
I have been saying this for awhile 2 cm's are needed and lampard for free is a no brainer.
Would love lampard on a free or even pay 8 or so million as he garuntee's about 20 goals a season from midfield something we haven't had since scholes was younger.
11 May 2013 18:13:20
40-50k per week will be ideal as an impact player with experience.
So you think it's just that easy because his contract is running out? Come on guys. be realistic!
11 May 2013 17:09:21
hi eds, or anyone in the know. I was wondering if there has been any negotiation with any players up to this point concerning a move this summer to OT or is everything speculation?, also would just like to say how I think Moyes is absolutely the right choice for the job! exciting times ahead methinks :)
11 May 2013 16:10:11
Sheesh, it takes an Arsenal fan to bring some sanity back
He spoke very well of him. Was good to see. It may have ended badly between them but the respect they have for each other would b great. Together they dominated football for a decade. Our greatest manager and his greatest captain. Oh to b back in the good old days
11 May 2013 16:05:12
Although Roy Keane is usually very botter towards United especially Fergy. A very warming insight to what it was like to have played under him from Keane before FA Cup Final
ALDUtd
11 May 2013 16:05:03
Available players that you'd like other than Strootman. Emphasis on available.
11 May 2013 16:26:00
sanchez, di maria and lewandowski
11 May 2013 18:08:11
Ozil, Benzema and Strootman.
11 May 2013 15:32:00
One of the main worries I have about Moyes coming in, is Shinji Kagawa. I don't know if Moyes will know what to make of a player such as Shinji, as he isn't the type of player DM is used to.
I just worry that Moyes may either not use him at all, or use him in an incorrect way, which could lead to his talent being wasted.
As we have seen, Sir Alex has only just realised how to implement Shinji within the team, something which has had a great effect on the team, and his talent has shone through.
Why? Moyes used to play Arteta in the hole quite a lot, he is similar but not as good as Kagawa. You are making Moyes out to be totally clueless when it comes to football.
Isn't Kagawa just a better version of Osman? Little, tidy player with two good feet and can spot pass, plays quick 1 touch football. Osman probably edges the physical side but Kagawa will beef up over the summer.
I don't see Moyes as the stubborn type. I don't actually think there will be an issue but I'm sure if Moyes was really having a problem to that extent he would seek advice on it.
Really hope Shinji is in the team more next season he really is a very good player I think he has a lot more to give.
11 May 2013 15:55:54
It's unreal some of the stuff you guys are coming out with about Moyes, he isn't from the planet Zanussi.
That really is a pretty daft thing to say and I'm being polite.
Stoner
11 May 2013 16:00:42
As you say it took Fergie most of a season to figure it out. I'm sure he'll advise Moyes on some stuff. Also Moyes isn't an person, he watches plenty of games, and he's supposed to be a big fan of German football so he'd have seen Kagawa at Dortmund and the way he was used there. Just because he didn't have a similar player at Everton doesn't mean he doesn't know how to use one. We'll get an idea on the pre season tour.
I have a feeling Moyes will put him in his natural position.
I'm pretty certain that fergie still hasn't worked it out, I said the other day the exact opposite to the OP, my main concern about fergie this season was signing a top quality player like kagawa and having absolutely no idea where to play him.
How are people saying fergie has worked it out? He has been on the bench pretty much every game since he scored his hat trick and is still playing out of position most of the time.
Moyes knows what he is doing, some
of the football Everton play with osman and pienaar is actually quite fluid and exciting, with united moyes has a better quality of player to work with and I am sure he will know exactly what to do with a quality player like kagawa.
Shinji 1-0 Gerrard.
Jeez! He is more than capable of using him properly. Just look at the likes of Mirallas, Pienaar, Osman, Arteta who thrived under him. Its getting pretty silly now.
REDFAITH
Moyes is not stupid haha! He knows more about football than anybody on here!
Ste.
GDS/REd/STE/Puzzled
Thanks for the sanity check. You would think we have hired the local milkman by some of the posts here LOL
Shahram
11 May 2013 14:41:48
i know its unlikely to happen but what would people think to moyes bringing beckham back. would bring back some much needed expreiance that we would loose when scholes leaves. the guy screams class in everything he does and having him round can only help to motivate and bring the best out of other players. he'd be avalible on a free and imagine the money we would make from shirt sales. I personally think he could also be a great assistant manager to moyes. possibly use both giggs and beckham as player/assistant coach?
I'm amazed anyone thinks Beckham would still add anything as a player, his bet days are long gone. He might make a good ambassador apart from the circus that surrounds him.
11 May 2013 15:38:42
Terrible idea. Firstly Beckham would still want big wages. For little contribution. Secondly where would you play him. No pace to play on the wing. Not good enough to play centre mid. What would he offer? The odd cross. We have experienced players with Rio, Vidic, Evra, Carrick, Giggs, Rooney, van Persie. Not sure we'd have any need for Beckham. And as a coach? Not sure never really heard him talk on the game. Lastly shirt sales can't see him selling massive amounts. Kids nowadays aren't so enthralled with Beckham as compared to players like Ron or Bale.
Agreed ajh. Beckham was a fantastic player, but we should be looking forward to the future not the past.
There are several players we could be looking at who would improve our midfield. And I'm sure we will get a couple of good ones.
Nomidfield
Jeez. Perhaps he'll bring back Paddy Crerand and Bobby Charlton too? LMAO
Much needed experience? We have a 38 year old (may be retiring) and a 40 year old in our team. Plus we'd be better off using the ridiculous wages that he would demand to buy someone we actually need. Seriously, some clueless people around.
Rafa & Fabio's long lost brother
No name, considering he takes no salary for himself at psg, i'm sure his wage demands are rather low ;) Don't think a move is likely, I enjoy seeing him in the odd testomonial.
Ste.
Ste.
PSG Still pay beckham a salary, it's just that he donates it to a french charity.
Djay
11 May 2013 14:32:09
What a player Lampard still is. If he is being let go, I'd take him in a flash
11 May 2013 14:17:52
My main worry about DM is that he will put an end to the dashing swashbuckling exciting football we have all enjoyed this year. To read some of the posts you'd think we have been playing like Barcelona and nasty DM is going to come in and play hoof ball.
Especially at home Moyes gets Everton playing high intensity football, with good use of the wingers and they pin other teams in, which is more exciting than seeing Xavi and Busquets exchanging about a million 1-2s in their own half.
Agreed guys, one thing for sure, Moyes will have them playing with a lot of passion. Also, if we can improve the fitness of a certain Mr. Rooney, then it could be a big positive for us.
Our team in the past two seasons has been a bit lackluster and especially on the counter attack.
So I'm sure Moyes will address that part.
Nomidfield
11 May 2013 13:11:20
Moyes seems to be getting a lot of unfair criticism on here. I have always looked at the fixture of Everton away and never been comfortable. People seem to have forgotten how we were dominated by his team in the first game of the season. One thing is for sure, you will never see Yaya Toure or a Ramires running through a United midfield when he is in charge. I also think Moyes would bring the best out of Phil Jones just like he has done with Fellaini and Jones is much better technically too.
A lot gets said on here about his tactics. If anyone watched them before Christmas they were playing some good football. He seems to have good vision as he himself predicted before the start of their season that a lack of depth in their squad was a concern which has been shown since the turn of the year. With injuries and fatigue they have gone back to an efficient winning way and used the players and height that they have to good effect.
I mean does he have any good strikers that can change the game in the end at Everton? The squad simply isn't deep enough which is no doubt down to the restrictions on wages and transfer budget. From what I see he has made them an effective side concentrating on the league to get a better share of the TV money in the process.
His training methods have been mentioned a lot as being too intensive but do we really think that he will change the whole training methods at United completely especially those that are quite clearly working? If we retain most of the staff I don't see much change there. The whole point of bringing him in is smoother transition and evolution rather than revolution.
He also might not be as sympathetic towards a poor performance from Evra, Cleverley or Anderson as Sir Alex has been.
I would have preferred Klopp or Loew but let's see what the guy can do before slagging him off shall we?
REDFAITH
Redfaith the problem I have with Moyes is historically he plays boring soulless football made up with really fit players, also most the time really poor goals for total
Basicly he's boring and loves to hoof the ball {Ed004's Note - But that's because he islaying to his teams strengths. He tries to play a way were the 3 supporting a striker come in and support him at Everton he doesn't have the most skilled players to do that. He won't have that problem here as he has Rooney, Kagawa and by the looks of it Di Maria. One of our best results this year was 4-0 vs Norwich at home. By signing Di Maria and Strootman we can play that same way but with better quality players. Hopefully Baines as well}
11 May 2013 15:16:47
@Pardoe.
The thing is that type of football is very effective in the EPL sadly. And especially for a side that can't buy the most skilled players out there that is a way of keeping them consistently competing in the top 6 or top 8.
They did play good football at the start of the season.
Doesn't Jose Mourinho play boring defensive football with one up front historically? But he had to be a lot more attacking at Real Madrid because of the way the club is and the expectations of the fans and no doubt the quality of players available.
The same will go for Moyes. He will know what is expected at Manchester United. Hoof the ball up the pitch with the likes of Rvp, Kagawa, Rooney, Valencia? Won't happen.
And to be honest we haven't played the most exciting stuff either for the last one and a half years have we?
REDFAITH
You can't make that excuse Ed. he had 11 years to shape his Everton team to play attractive football but he has constantly chosen to build his team around a defensive attitude. This is especially true whenever he comes up against a good side and he pushes everyone behind the ball. His teams have always lacked the ability or desire to retain possession. Read what Fellani says, he thinks he best as a defensive midfield player but Moyes pushes him up front because he wants to have a long ball outlet. I hope Moyes is pressured to change his approach but his tactics are not due to the limitations of his players, he brought in players to suit his tactics.
Danny Pughnited
11 May 2013 11:47:45
Team Manchester United are planning for Sir Alex Ferguson to lift the PL TROPHY this sunday, while evertime captain Vidic gets to lift it. Team United will give Guard Of Honor to Sir Alex together with Swansea. Thank u Sir Alex
11 May 2013 11:45:24
mancini vs moyes
games 7
city won just 1
everton won 5
draw 1
city score 5 goals
everton score 10
now who better mancini or moyes?
I honestly think Chelsea will be the bigger threat next season, Mourinho or no Mourinho. They have the basis of a good team, just need a couple of tweaks like replacing Torres with someone more prolific and replacing the aging spine of the team especially in the backline.
City if Mancini goes will have a new manager, most likely someone with no experience of the English game who has to adapt and get to know his players. Also City's squad does need some work on it, a lot of deadwood and passengers to be shipped out.
Mort
If Mancini goes it's good for us, they are unsettled at the best of times and a change of that extend, which could see a lot of his staff go would really put them out of sorts.
Agree that Chelsea could be a threat but it depends on the manager. There does seem to be some unrest there, someone always has something to complain about.
11 May 2013 11:12:40
(in the banter, please)
Goal has made a video about who was SAF 5 best signings, and they say: Keane Irwin, Schmeichel, Ronaldo and Cantona. Agree or not? If not; who else then? With all those good signings, its hard to find the best 5, but I think I agree with this one. Vidic, van Nistelrooy, Cole, Solskjaer etc. could well be on that list, but I cannot see who they should replace (from the original 5).
1, Cantona
2, Schmeichel
3, Ronaldo
4, Keane
5, Solksjaer
ms85
Cantona
Keane
Schmeichal
Ronaldo
van der sar
LP
It's funny that with this question, no one ever mentions Giggs. I know he came through the ranks but he was on City's books until SAF and United Scout, Joe Brown turned up to Giggs's house to sign him at 14!
Anyway, this aside I'd go for:
1) Cantona
2) Schmeichel
3) Ronaldo
4) Keane
5) Pallister or Bruce - Can't decide to be honest!
Best 5 signings Fergie made easily are -
1) Cantona
2) Schmeichel
3) Ronaldo
4) Keane
5) Vidic
11 May 2013 10:51:20
Hi Edds
Who do you reckon will be coming in and going out this summer?
Richmond {Ed002's Note - You need to keep up with the posts Richmond.}
11 May 2013 09:53:49
As the dust settles on what has been a crazy week at Old Trafford, I notice this evening that Wayne Rooney has said on twitter and on his website that he did not change his status from being a United player to a Nike athlete and that he simply added that he was a Nike athlete, a change that was done three weeks ago. That seems fair enough. However, it raises even more questions the fact he did not deny having asked Sir Alex for a transfer request or that he wants to leave United. Can we presume from this that the story about Rooney wanting to leave is genuine? I think a couple of years ago, this would have been a disaster. Now while I'm not saying I want Rooney to leave, but at this stage, I'm getting a bit sick of his rubbish.
He held United to ransom over a contract and hasn't lived up to his billing since then. I see Hernandez on the bench with an exemplary professional attitude despite being sparingly used in the past year. So perhaps a question for of the eds and regulars and others. Can we now presume his transfer request is genuine? Do you think United would have put him up for sale this summer irrespective of his transfer request? And finally, I hear him being linked with Bayern Munich. Is he good enough to make their team on current form? {Ed004's Note - I reckon if Rooney wants to have a future here he needs to show a but more commitment and by that I mean going out and sort his diet and fitness out. If we could get Rooney fully fit possibly regain some of the speed he lost then I would have no problems him staying here. In fact I would be delighted as he is still a quality footballer. I think his stats are 12 goals and 16 assists in 32 games. That's extremely good for having an 'off' season.}
11 May 2013 10:32:02
Ed the stats are good but most of the season he's been poor. He has quality but he looks bored and disinterested. The fitness and weight thing was a disgrace. If he's asked to go that's twice in three years. Who asks twice to leave Manchester United. I say sell him. Get best price possible. Buy a striker and an inside forward. {Ed004's Note - I agree if he has asked to go I would sell him to someone outside of the premiership for hopefully over 30 million. I reckon if we sold him Nani and Young there would be a lot of cash there to invest in two wingers. Two players available I like are Di Maria and Sanchez, however, would love any of Ronaldo, Bale, Rodriguez, or Lamela. However, when Rooney was at his best and trying his hardest look at the players he had round him Ronaldo, Scholes, Keane, Giggs and RVN all in their primes but Ronaldo and then even Tevez, Ronaldo, Giggs, Hargreaves a fit Anderson. Now if we could get Rooney supported by a quality midfield and quality wide players like Kagawa and someone else like Di Maria/Rodriguez/Lamela we might see the best of him again as long as he works on his fitness.}
Ed, quick question regarding Rooneys (and Andersons) lack of fitness. How much blame can be attributed to Utd and our own training sessions and fitness programmes that the likes of Ronney and Anderson look out of shape so often?I think its totally up to the player to make sure he doesn't turn up overweight or out of shape, but when its so glaringly obvious that these 2 players aren't 100% fit all the times surely the club steps in and put them on individual programmes? Apparently at Everton under Moyes, training sessions resembled army boot camp according to Phil Neille and Kenwright anyway. Would be interesting to see if that type of approach would improve the fitness of these 2 players. That is of course if they're both at the club next season.
BennyBlanco {Ed004's Note - I reckon not much blame can be put onto Manutd tbh. Andersons problems seem to come from all the injuries he picks up and theres not much Utd can do to stop someone pulling a hamstring or doing their cruciate etc, and there are reports Anderson likes the nightlife and I can't see how the club could stop him going out partying and drinking etc. Its such a shame Anderson could have been a lot better if he was disciplined enough to diet (something the club would give every player) and kept fit. With Rooney I think the club has tried I think a few times over the years he has been sent to Nike's head quarters in America he has been given a few weeks off from Matches (when he was 'injured') to get back into shape but he seems to have a horrible diet as well as being naturally big.}
Ed004 - I could not agree more and this is why I think Moyes will get the best out of him again as he insists on the 'horseshoe run' and ridiculous fitness levels. Anderson and Rooney if here next season could benefit drastically. {Ed004's Note - I reckon so question to all fitness experts on here, if a player like Rooney has lost pace over the years is there anyway he could regain it through losing a bit of weight and though fitness trainings. I don't think it would be possible to get back to his peak pace but could he dramatically increase his current pace so that he can atleast out run some defenders and midfielders}
If Rooney loses weight but keeps or increases his muscle mass, in theory at least, he should have better acceleration, as his power-to-weight ratio will increase.
Whether or not it would be noticeable or not in terms of his general play, I'm not sure. But watching clips from those games from Euro 2004 and his first couple of years here leaves me annoyed at just how much more he could have been.
11 May 2013 11:25:36
Im not saying I am a fitness expert, but I have trained a lot of athletes (altmost every sport besides football). Rooney can never get his explosiveness, like he had in his early age, but I am sure of, with a good fitness program, diet and dedication (from Rooney), he would see a massive improvement in every aspects. What is shocking, is how little dedicated a lot of footballers are. I have trained volleyball-, rugby- and handball players, triathlon athletes, golf and bodybuilders. even at an amateur level, they are SO dedicated, cause they know the competition for even beeing good, even at a national level, is so hard. Footballers, Rooney especially, made through on talent, and didn't need to be so dedicated to the physical conditioning. Its clear that, for those that do (Ronaldo being a perfect example, and even more; Giggs), can maintain their performances over a long period, even if they have to change their approach a bit. I think it is disgusting, to be honest, when I think about Rooney, his only "concern" is playing football, and makes a fortune on it, doesn't take the time and efford of maintaining even an acceptable fitness level.
But yeah, Rooney can improve a lot, if he pulled his act together, he is not that old :)
I can't see Rooney taking to 'the horseshoe'. He's like a shire horse not a racehorse.
You would think that Utd would develop an individual fitness regime to suit him ed? Short, sharp stuff that get's him fit and game ready.
Utd must be monitoring his diet intake, fat levels and that.
But his problem seems to be an ingrained poor lifestyle. You could expect him to suffer more injuries as he gets older, and the rehab is going to become more of a problem.
I'm a LFC fan btw and, not just saying it for the banter, but Utd should cash in. Maybe a move elsewhere will rekindle his spark.
Rooney's to me has lost his engine and that is due to a lack of fitness. I do agree he might not get his explosiveness back but he can definitely get a yard or 2 back if he was fitter.
I also find Rooney's silence on the transfer request odd. I am sure he reads the same stuff we are reading and can easily put things to bed by making a statement, but has decided not to.
It leaves me to believe it is absolutely true and pretty much 100 % sure he will not be in a united shirt next year.
Just like Fergie saying 2 weeks ago he is going nowhere, I expect the news of him being sold this summer leaking and seeing him gone within 48 hours and a quick conclusion and no prolonged soap opera.
Shahram
11 May 2013 12:38:59
I think he has to go anyway Ed to bring in the targets your talking about.
Rooney, Nani and Anderson all out would bring in 50 million surely so that plus whatever else we have at hand should be enough to bring in:
Baines, Strootman, Sanchez, Di Maria & Lewandowski.
Although being greedy I'd still like another centre mid ha ha. {Ed004's Note - Im the same as you another midfielder might be too much at once but that would be a fantastic summer}
11 May 2013 13:03:21
I don't think we'd bring all that in all at once but it would be a statement. Not sure who else I'd want in as a midfielder. Not convinced on Fellaini or Wanyama, don't think much chance of Bender or Gundogan this summer with Gotze and Lewandowski already leaving. Who else does it leave? Not sold on Eriksen either. I'd prefer someone with Prem experience. Wilshire is unlikely, McCarthy not sure of but could be a contender, although some don't rate him.
I think we need 2 as Scholes is off, Anderson surely has to be off, and I think Fletcher will as well. Carrick, Strootman and Cleverley wouldn't be enough for a whole season and its too soon for the kids.
I'd probably try and offload 1 of Young or Valencia as well as we'd have Sanchez, Di Maria, Zaha and whoever was left for the wings.
Did you watch zaha yesterday? He was total rubbish, the ball pinged off him every time. Sanchez? He's had a terrible season.
11 May 2013 15:50:10
Zaha had one average game so he's poor? Despite Brighton clearly targeting him as a danger man and sticking three on him whenever he had possession. Sanchez has struggled but I think that's because his style doesn't suit barca, he's about getting at the fullback and dribbling rather than pass pass pass. I think he's realised barca aren't all their cracked up to be and that he made the wrong choice two years ago. If he was available for the right price i'd still take him.
11 May 2013 09:26:23
Just wondering eds out of all the players we're linked with which do you expect us most likely to sign? Thanks {Ed004's Note - Baines, Strootman, Di Maria and possible Lewandowski. Though I'd like another winger tbh}
Ed004 - Do you think that we could be in for a busy summer then? I am hoping for pretty much what you said Baines, Di Maria, Lewandowski but I would like to see Lars Bender instead of Strootman and another player like Lamela or Gaitan who can play across the pitch. {Ed004's Note - I reckon the very most we will see is 4 first team players possibly 5 if Rooney forces a move out later in the window. In an ideal world Rooney would get back into shape, regain some speed and confidence and we would sign a left back like Baines, two midfielders such as Strootman/Bender and Gundogan/Modric and Di Maria/Rodriguez/Lamela}
11 May 2013 09:03:37
Something on a funny note
Saf has always said about not signing midfield battler" why I don't buy it? Because I never have DM role in my team. that's not my style. "
Well he lied to us. he actually got a DM this summer ( david moyes)
A small tribute to master of smoke screen.
Rodio17
11 May 2013 09:00:13
Rumoured In: Baines/Fellaini/Jagielka/Lewandowski/Benzema/Ronaldo
Rumoured Out:
Rooney/Nani/Anderson
Baines: I do rate Baines. But with the likes of Evra, Buttner and Fabio coming back from QPR. Do we really need another LB?
Fellaini: They say he has a £25m buy out clause in his contract with Everton. If this is true then I hope we stay well clear. Fellaini is over-rated in my eyes and I certainly don't think he's worth £25m.
Jagielka: Can only see this one happening if Rio decides to retire. We have Jones/Smalling/Vidic/Evans who can play at CB so I don't think we really need another CB.
Lewandowski: Great player, no doubt. Would love to see him at United. Also linked with Bayern Munich.
Benzema: This is the latest rumour going round this weekend. Apparently if Rooney is sold, Moyes wants Benzema to replace him. £30m is the rumoured price for him.
Ronaldo: I think there would of been a chance of him coming back if Fergie was still manager but I can't see him coming back now Fergie has retired. But hey, one can hope!
Strootman and di Maria?
Im sure tommorows papers will bring another random name to the table!
ms85
11 May 2013 08:31:01
So the most recent links are benzema, de maria, fellaini, baines, Ronaldo.
Out of those, Ronaldo and baines will improve our team.
So let's hope we don't get de maria, benzema and definitely no fellaini.
I'm sure it is all paper talk. My dream will be to get Ronaldo or bale, wanyama, moutinho and lewi. And sell Rooney, Anderson, nani and young. But of course that won't happen.
Red68
Bale won't happen!
Di Maria won't improve our team? So you think Ashley young is better than him? Few too many beers?
Lol GDS just better than Young? He is far superior to all of our wingers!
A lot of people seem to forget that Di Maria has been in the starting 11 for Real Madrid for two seasons now. If that isn't good enough for United I don't know what is.
He is better than all of our wingers, at the age of 25 he would be a great addition to United.
I didn't think too much of di maria until we played them, I thought he was the best rm player over the two legs, and i'm sure he would be a great addition to our starting 11.
DHK
11 May 2013 08:21:40
Did anyone watch the crystal palace v Brighton game? Zaha didn't do much, and to be fair, neither did Palace.
But I think zaha will take time to settle and come up to the standard we need.
Interesting to hear your views on him.
Nomidfield
I think Zaha will surprise a few people at United and we have got a real exciting talent on our hands. Zaha is the sort of player that will get the fans on their feet when he gets the ball.
In the past I think he'd of got less games coming into the United team but with the form of our wingers he'll get more opportunities, although I must say this has been my statement since we signed him when I believed SAF would be in charge I hope it remains true under Moyes.
Either way, Zaha is going to be a great addition to us, a team with Powell and Zaha is quite exciting I think.
Every time he got the ball he had at least 2 players sometimes 3 crowding round him, he couldn't do much tbh.
Tommy!
I think Zaha loos really exciting to be honest and you have to say when you look at the Palace team it is not exactly quality so you can not expect him to do everything himself. One thing I will say is he is very versatile being able to play anywhere across the pitch and he is also improving his crossing.
11 May 2013 06:30:42
Moyes' record away at United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal-in his everton regime (away).
played-45,
won - 0,
drawn- 18
lost - 27
-a total of just 18 points gained from a possible 135.
He will win considerably more
managing us!
LP
Says it all. That's a frightening statistic, even lower clubs have gone to some of these grounds and triumphed.
Everyone is making out that Moyes was a manager of some two bit team who have never done anything in their history. The truth is that he managed Everton, who are one of the biggest teams in the land. Their resources did not match those of the top clubs, but nevertheless, they should have done better. Massive underachievement in my view.
Moyes is the manager of everton and its a small club based on its resources and personnel
nikz
That was for Everton, I'm sure you'll see a massive improvement now he's a red.
Carl
Everton are far from a small club, wot a clown.
mick the red fireman.
If you want to look at records, look at Moyes versus City since their takeover. Maybe this stat will please people as arguably City have been the strongest side in this period with the exception of ourselves.
You have to say Everton play with a 451 against the 'better' teams away from Goodison. United will hardly ever play that which is why you will see a vast improvement on those stats.
Stats can be very deceiving. Everton are an extremely difficult side for any of the top teams for a squad built on a shoestring budget. I would argue that is pretty good result given the competition.
BTW when was the last time we won at Chelsea or Liverpool?
Let the man have the opportunity to work with a better class of players and more money and see how he does.
Whilst we all like to be chair pundits on team selection and players, slagging him even before he starts is quite unfair. Don't you find it odd how many respected players/coaches have come out and said he is an excellent appointment.
Does anyone genuinely believe they know better that Sir Bobby/Sir Alex/David Gill who should be appointed. They obviously see something to have made a unanimous decision and expedite the appointment and if there were any doubts they would have taken their time and looked at all other candidates who would have jumped at the opportunity including Klop and Mourinho.
Personally the more I read on him the more comfortable I am with the appointment, and just hope the club will back him with major funds in the summer transfer window because we need improvements to the current squad to win the the PL and contend for cl next year.
Shahram
11 May 2013 15:14:18
@Shahram.
We won at Chelsea and Liverpool this season mate.
But I agree with what you are trying to say. Moyes needs to be given time and a chance. Some of the slagging off on here has been way over the top.
He won't play defensively at United. He simply cannot because of the level of expectation. Coming away with a point against the top 4 sides is a good result for Everton and a point gained but at United it will be viewed as a point lost.
When you have the likes of Chicharito on the bench, you can't think of defending in the last 20 mins of a drawing or losing game.
REDFAITH
RED
You are absolutely correct and just took a dumb pill and described where I am coming from quite well.
Shahram
11 May 2013 01:42:27
Any news or information on who is likely to be coming in as number 2 to Moyes? Or any other backroom staff?
Heard Phelan is likely off, but hope Round doesn't take his place. Don't think either of them have the tactical presence we'll need in there if they were number 2, especially given that Rene might be off which I'm disappointed about.
Would love Queiroz back but that's not going to happen.
Never judge a book by its cover!
Dylan
I'm pretty sure that doesn't apply to this post.
Problem with assistants/coaches we don't get to see them or hear their thoughts on TV and we are generally governed and lead by this unfortunately Simon Cowell type shows have caused our way of making decisions.
I say don't worry about no. 2 or assistants a key respected manager is vital
Dylan
Agree on the manager front but as good a motivator as Moyes may be, I personally would be more comfortable with a tactically focussed number two, or there will be short comings I think.
He can only be judged after his first season in charge who knows what he will do away from home we've had tremendous success at Anfield for example but been awful performances but Sir Alex knew how to guide us through the season.
I do believe a coach is very important but Sir Alex doesn't give out these positions through sentiment Phelan must possess some qualities but I hope David Moyes brings his choice with him for a starter it proves he's is own man.
He will live or die by these decisions and we know so many want this to fail!
Dylan
It's obvious Phelan has something to him or as you say he wouldn't be in there. But every manager is different and they all have a different number 2.
I think the type of manager influences who the number 2 is.
I am sure it will be Moyes' choice, I just hope his choice isn't round.
11 May 2013 00:37:44
The greatest player ever to grace a football pitch. {Ed007's Note -
Brilliant mate.
Looking forward to seeing him one more time, as well as saying goodbye to SAF.
Wow, we've been blessed to have players like giggs, cantona, ronaldo, rooney, keane, robson and beckham in fergies reign but Paul Scholes still remains my favourite player to watch during his era, if ronaldo can get the reception he did when he came back with madrid (which he deserved)then scholes should get the same but doubled, it was englands loss they wasted him, our gain that he retired early so we could witness a prolonged career for a genious.
phil
Oh for a young Scholes!
N. I. Devil
Will there ever be a Scholsey again?
Not a chance, no. Never.
I was at a charity dinner with Sir Bobby about 15 years ago and remember him saying that Scholes was the best out of the group that came through with Gary Neville behind him. Remember him saying the he was the best midfielder in the world.
I think it will be a long time before we see another genius like him if we are lucky.
Shahram