Manchester United Banter Archive August 12 2018

 

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12 Aug 2018 20:44:09
Pog had a very good game yesterday, i'm a big fan of his but his comments post game are embarassing and i think he should have to answer for them i.e strip him of the captaincy. May seem harsh but the captain of a team, FIRST game of the season should not be picking arguments - that's not what a mature captain does.

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12 Aug 2018 20:50:05
I don't think he is captain more a case of he was captain for that game .
I think he was making a point to be honest, Jose has had plenty to say about him.

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12 Aug 2018 21:07:54
Pogba did what Pogba always does.

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12 Aug 2018 21:16:42
Watching him friday night though, wearing the armband after all the 'he wants out' stories i just thought its honna be another liverpool performance from him as he prob doesn't care

But he was brilliant, the player we have wanted every game.

Then he hoes and has a pop, he probably did owe jose a comment or 2 but i'd still have rather he kept shut and just played like that to shut everyone up.

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12 Aug 2018 21:40:45
On Friday he worked of the ball, which is what he done for France and what he never done last year .
Maybe the penny dropped.

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12 Aug 2018 21:21:31
He played okay, he wasn't startling. But it was his first proper run out since world cup final, so I don't think anyone was expecting startling.

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12 Aug 2018 22:00:48
I think jred has a point. Why is it okay for the manager to come out to the media and slate a player yet that same player isn't allowed to suggest to the press that his relationship with that manager isn't as good as it could be?

If there is two sides to every argument then why shouldn't we hear both sides?

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12 Aug 2018 22:04:17
I don't know but he probably had it in his head for the last few weeks. Barcelona
Can see him going 8n january.

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12 Aug 2018 23:23:47
Leahy
Or he might have it in is head the manager doesn't want him.

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13 Aug 2018 00:05:04
Or he may just realise the manager was right all along and all the pundits were right for a prolonged period he was not playing well he was sloppy he was not concentrated and was not working hard enough in attack or defence.
Sure they have had a row but its time to put it to bed for everyones sake.
I don't believe deschamps asked anything more from him than jose does really.
He should keep his head down now the window has closed and let his football do the talking if he excels and is succesful and still wants a move then adress it next summer.
Pogba proved in the summer he is at his best when he has a point to prove. Jose imo threw out the olive branch trusted him to start and made him captain and praised him publicly post match. I hope they both let it rest now and get on with their jobs.

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13 Aug 2018 00:44:50
That too jred.

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13 Aug 2018 04:01:08
Ken mourinho and Deschamps expect different things from pogba, for France pogba isn't their go to guy in attack he is the support cast, it's griezmann and mbappe who are the main players there. At utd when ever we look stuck the ball goes to pogba, he is expected to create chances. If you want a player to defend more you need to take the responsibility of being the creative force from him, sadly the 500k ji sung park has miserably failed to do the job he was bought for.

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13 Aug 2018 05:05:39
Shappy, haven't you been criticizing the manager at every given chance, and more, precisely for this reason that he openly criticizes his player. So, come on now ne fair and criticize Pogba. Two wrongs don't make a right. We know by now you don't like Jose.

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13 Aug 2018 07:30:41
United addict, your right Pogba shouldn't be saying these things in the press. He should look to his manager and follow his example. Oh wait he did.

That is one of the many reasons why I have criticized Jose for publicly slating the players. It creates a poor work environment and undermines trust between the manager and the players. Half our squad want out apparently, how much of that is down to the manager constantly throwing them under the bus is unclear but I'm sure it doesn't help.

You can't expect to constantly publicly slate a person and not expect a retort.

That sort of behaviour is very damaging to the dressing room as we can see. Furthermore there is no need for it, what does Jose expect to gain from it?

He has tried it at every club and it is clear that it doesn't work anymore. Maybe in the 80's and 90's you could have got away with it. Maybe even in the early 00's. But players have too much power and are too pampered and sensitive to act in such a way anymore.

Pogba shouldn't be speaking out publicly, however this whole situation was created by Jose and his poor man management.

Jose is twice Pogba's age, he should know better.

Paul shouldn't be speaking out like that, especially when he has just captained the side for the first time. However, like I said we have heard Jose's side of the argument, we should be allowed to hear Pogba's.

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13 Aug 2018 08:07:33
So Martial and Pogba make half the team for you now Shappy? Even the great english media only name these two who want out "apparently".

Agree that Jose has called this upon himself and he should be careful. But i think this has worked on Shaw. Only 1 game isn't the true picture but let's hope he buckles dowm now.

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13 Aug 2018 09:10:19
Depay, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger, Darmian, Rooney, Blind have all left or want to leave. All wanted to leave after being coached by Jose. Fellaini and Rashford have supposedly considered their futures at United under Jose. Pogba and Martial obviously are the ones that are talked about most atm.

So that's 10 players who have left or are/ have been rumoured to want to leave. I haven't included DDG as he was considering moving home rather than wanting to leave.

So I think 10 players is enough to constitute saying half a team.

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{Ed002's Note - They did not leave because the did not want to be coached by Mr Mourinho. It is as ridiculous as saying Cristiano Ronaldo left because of Ferguson's coaching.}

13 Aug 2018 11:20:57
Shappy, to be fair most of those players were moved on because their performances were not good enough, or were deemed surplus to requirements. Depay was not ready for the step up, Schneiderlin looked a top player for Southampton but never came close to showing it for United. Schweinsteiger was an expensive and foolish signing at his age and stage of career. Darmain started well and went backwards. Blind was a useful squad player and wanted to leave for more first team football, and Rooney is coming to the end of his career and is simply no longer good enough for the EPL.
Fellaini and Mourinho clearly have a mutual respect, so no issue there. Rashford has lots of potential, but has not taken his chances on a regular basis, and has probably not deserved to start much more than he has.
That leaves Pogba and Martial. I think most agree that they have both flattered to deceive and have under performed. Jose may not have handles these issues particularly well, but most of Pogba's and Martials issues are, to a large extent, self inflicted.
Pogba looked a different player altogether at the world cup, but International football is very different to the EPL, so its not really comparing apples with apples.

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13 Aug 2018 12:07:17
Shappy, i have been reading your posts for a while now and they have mostly come out as well thought out and reasonable (even though we don't agree on Jose), but this post of yours is simply THE MOST RIDICULOUS post. Ed02 has already replied and i would have used the exact same example. All of those players weren't good enough for United. Is Fellaini that good thay you are bringing him up in this discussion? Rashford played the most minutes for United last season, has he considered his future. If yes, then that has gone under the radar of the English media.

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13 Aug 2018 12:37:44
All of those player left because they felt they weren't getting enough game time under Mourinho.

So therefore they were unhappy with an aspect of life at our club under Mourinho which was under Mourinho's control.

Some of them have moved on and played very well elsewhere, let's not pretend all the players Mourinho sells go on to flop elsewhere. In fact some go onto become top footballers, our first choice striker for instance.

Mourinho failed to get the best out of them. In many cases he didn't give them a chance and they went on to prove him wrong.

Its no surprise that it is the creative chance taking players Jose has a problem with. Also the biggest problem he has with them is their defensive work rate, which probably shouldn't be the bench mark for an offensive player.

Jose's style is to create a siege mentality, by to do that you need someone to fight with. Jose has a habit of looking for fight too close to home, which invariably leads to the players turning on him.

Look at how the players celebrated with Shaw last Friday after he scored. Does that look like the reaction of players who would back Jose's treatment of Shaw over the last two years or players who'll stand behind their teammate and be unhappy with the public blastings he has received.

The whole point of this thread was is Pogba in the right to come out and say what he did? The answer is no, but this is just Jose's chickens coming home to roost.

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13 Aug 2018 13:21:44
Shaps, don't think too many would disagree with that. I just don't think the examples you gave quite fitted in with the reality of the situation - but I get where you are coming from. I certainly felt - and said - the same about the Luke Shaw goal celebration.

I just don't agree that the list of players you gave all left / will leave because of the way Jose has treated them.

Jose has certainly not got the best out of some of the players, and has not treated some of them very well.

But at some stage, some of these players need to be accountable for their own performances. To blame Jose for ALL of their shortcomings it just giving the players a free pass for their own poor performances.

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13 Aug 2018 13:35:33
Nonsense shappy. For someine who used to be objectove your posts on jose don't carry any objectivity and are just biased and a load of clap trap. You're blinded by your dislike of the man.

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13 Aug 2018 15:06:38
Shappy, your bias is shining through here big time. You usually have very sensible posts but that one above, challenged by ed002 is ridiculous.

Blaming Jose now for players wanting to leave because of his coaching, madness to be honest.

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13 Aug 2018 17:29:31
Too much time in the uni bar shaps? 😂😂.

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13 Aug 2018 17:55:15
Ridiculous posts. Utterly ridiculous. Jose sells those who were never good enough to play for our club bought by other managers and still gets it in the neck.

No wonder Ed02 calls our fans out as toxic. Absolutely and utterly ridiculoous.

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14 Aug 2018 11:50:39
Shappy do you read your posts before you click reply?

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12 Aug 2018 20:25:54
With Periera playing so well yesterday, would anyone think Matic, Pereira and Fred in midfield with Pogba in the 10 role work for us, playing Lukaku and Sanchez up top. Very strong midfield and very strong up top too.

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12 Aug 2018 20:53:49
Too narrow for me.
Would need fullbacks with the license to bomb down the flanks and the ability to find a teammate with a cross.

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12 Aug 2018 20:57:09
Pereira looks like this will be his breakthrough season and we all know its been time coming. Matic will always be that defensive anchor but I thinking there are a lot of interchangeable qualities in other midfield options such as: Pogba, Fred, Pereira and Herrera. McTominay may need to be more attack-minded in his passing choices but that will come with time. Whereas Fellaini will always be the battering ram option we thought was leaving! Be interesting to see how Lingard slots into the side when he comes back into the squad properly.

I think we have a little more strength in depth than folk give us credit for.

Defence is where we know we have numbers but lack quality. I am hopeful Bailly and Lindelof can forge a great partnership and clearly if keeping injury free that will be a huge bonus for us. Shaw had a great first game and hope he can cement the LB spot as we all hoped he would do when originally signing.

Leicester game showed our right-side defensively is suspect and a 33yo Valencia coming back won't do anything to address the lack of pace.

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12 Aug 2018 22:23:11
Don’t see Pog as a 10. Total waste of his talent. He needs to drive from midfield, and get involved as he can also pick a pass as well as shoot from distance.

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12 Aug 2018 22:52:32
Pogba at Juventus was a 10 and switched to left and right side when needed. Unlike the first two seasons back at Utd playing him as a CDM 😆😆.

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12 Aug 2018 15:23:26
Watching the scouse you see the difference between a team going to kill a game and entertain.
And United who seem happy to protect a 1 goal lead .
2 ways to skin a cat and all that but I know which team are a better watch.

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12 Aug 2018 15:33:44
Whether they are or not better team to watch its still boring to watch for me.

Can't stand Liverpool and when there winning it becomes boring very fast.

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12 Aug 2018 15:41:22
Its all about taste. So. e people liked to watch Barcelona. Personally I found them boring to watch.

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12 Aug 2018 15:46:20
Lolllllllllll.

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12 Aug 2018 15:47:12
They'll come for you jred. Hahahaha

TBH, we shouldn't knee-jerk, Liverpool will play sexy football but I believe they'll falter.

This is the problem I have with us, we don't have a football identity.

Everyone knew how Liverpool would play regardless of their back 4 (only van dijk there worthy) and a midfield of Milner with wijnaldum.

I believe if Mourinho can birth any positive style of football, most fans will be happy even if we don't win because it's a good sign in the right direction. And for a club with the stature of Manchester United, it'll be just a matter of time before we begin dominating.

Nonetheless, we still have improved from Moyes and LVG era; I'll give that to Mourinho but he needs to get me purring with our style 😅.

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12 Aug 2018 15:48:50
I don't watch Liverpool at all. Couldn't be bothered to be honest. More interested in watching our games regardless of how we play.

United are a better watch than Liverpool for me all day long.

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12 Aug 2018 16:04:16
Angel
Hard to get a perspective if you don't watch over teams .
Scouse continued to have a go at West ham even after 2 or 3 up . We just sat back against Leicester.
Would love to see us really have a go for 90 minutes, we look a decent until we sit back
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I think we maybe have got an identity I think it's don't take chances don't get beat . I would love to see our team given a bit more freedom.

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12 Aug 2018 16:57:03
I agree jred, I look at our players and we have far better forwards and midfielders than we do defenders. So it only makes sense to spend more time going forward and playing to our strengths than sitting back and inviting teams on to our weaknesses.

I think we could see some excellent football from our team if they were let off the leash.

The most painful thing about how we are playing atm is that in all fairness and being completely non-bias you have to say Liverpool and City are playing the best most exciting football in the league if not in all of Europe at the moment.

Which is a bitter pill to swallow for a United supporter.

Serious question though to all on here. If it came down to it, would you prefer Liverpool or City to win the league? As there is a good chance it might come down to one of those two.

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12 Aug 2018 16:58:41
Anybody saying that Liverpool were boring to watch, I dread to think what you would consider our performances like!

Anybody that doesn't watch our main rivals is taking away any perspective from their comments.

City and Liverpool look scary to me. When you think who is missing from City as well it just doesn't bear thinking about.

We have so much work to be done it's depressing, watching us on Friday compared to Liverpool today makes me more concerned about our prospects. Early days in the season but they look much better prepared and Scousers are enjoying their team more than the average Utd fan are enjoying watching us, guaranteed.

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12 Aug 2018 17:00:36
I hate Liverpool doing well but they were impressive, fast one touch football, their first goal they had 5 players in the box all trying to get on the end of it, bury your heads in the sand if you like but they are great to watch. Chelsea were impressive, City look slick, our competitors have started well.

However, it’s just one game, I remember us losing 3-0 to Villa first game and doing the double. Not saying that will happen but everyone is settling in so I think it will take a month or two until things settle down.

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12 Aug 2018 17:31:26
How do you know if don't watch any other games jred? Rather presumptuous of you.

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12 Aug 2018 17:50:27
Angel because you said you don't watch any Liverpool games.

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12 Aug 2018 18:12:31
I don't watch Liverpool games doesn't equal not watching any other games 😂.

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{Ed025's Note - they were excellent to be fair angel..

12 Aug 2018 18:21:02
Angel and FZZ

Couldnt have put it better myself. don't watch the scouse, don't care how they play (until we play eachother) . Boring team with a crtoon manager.

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{Ed025's Note - they are far from boring mate, and from someone who watches united at the moment thats pretty rich i must say..

12 Aug 2018 18:26:02
Liverpool are a super team. Confidence is high lots of players playing at the top off their game. They are on a roll at the moment. City were both great at times and very sloppy at other times.
Chelsea were impressive.
Spurs were like ourselves worth the win.
We need to stay with the pace early on and see where that takes us.

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{Ed025's Note - good summary that ken..

12 Aug 2018 18:27:58
Lol ed, apologies. Was slight tongue in cheek because i'm a little tired of how hearing how well scouse and citeh are/ have been playing if this was a mixture of different fans commenting then brill but its just utd fans. i'm sure there are some closet city/ licerpool fans on here.

Speaking of closet scouse fans, where is MAZE 😁.

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{Ed025's Note - dont apologize EZRS, being biased is part and parcel of being a fan mate, i should know im one of the worst for it.. :)

12 Aug 2018 18:35:46
Don't doubt it ed025. Still don't watch them though :) but we know that there are many on this page that have Liverpool love ins.

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{Ed025's Note - they could just be football fans angel and not wear blinkers when it comes to liverpool mate...shame on them.. :)

12 Aug 2018 19:13:22
Lol you've got it! :) but the original point for me was, I enjoy watching united more than Liverpool, I can appreciate their style but I just don't enjoy them in that regard. I prefer watching ourselves play more.

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12 Aug 2018 19:15:26
A quick question for the Ed if you have the time to spare-old woodward has informed jose that there will be a director of football being appointed and that jose must utilize the youth team a lot more instead of 'buying off the peg'-so to speak, but jose is still expected to gain top four and have a good run in the champions league, bearing in mind no other manager in the other clubs (blue knuckle draggers, chavski, Liverpool are having to do this all at once at the same time does it not smack off setting him up for the old tin-tack unless jose pulls the pin himself? would it be to crazy to suggest mr. woodward has a list of candidates already? it just seems that he's turning the screw on jose more and more?

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{Ed025's Note - i would be guessing CO82 but i will go as far as to say that something is not right there, it seems to be a battle of wits between jose and deadwood and its not healthy for the club, something has to give mate and my bet would be that jose will be the first one to crack as it seems that woodward has the backing of the owners..

12 Aug 2018 19:43:23
Boohoo, we've had to put up with your tripe for 20 odd years, so now its our turn. I hope you enjoy it.

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12 Aug 2018 19:59:30
I though all the other teams had a " transfer team "
Just to make a point what's the average age of players bought by city since since pep took over?
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I'm on the other side of the argument, nothing worse than a biased blinked fan when discussing footy.

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12 Aug 2018 20:00:29
Whos this tit? ^^^.

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{Ed025's Note - a visitor from the banks of the mersey..

12 Aug 2018 20:02:28
Class82 footy has changed look at city or Lfc how many older players they've bought? Even a club like Real where the standards are very very high they've started refreshing their squad w/ younger players.

Utd are acting sensibly. After Moyes and LVG fiasco Utd panicked and brought mourinho because of he's a winner and guarantees u big trophies and Utd were/ are desperate for big prizes.

He did okay coming in in he's 1st season and winning couple of cups which prompted Utd board to trust him blindly and investing lots and lots of cash in he's project be wages to older players like zlatan or breaking transfer records for Pogba and even paying huge amounts of money to he's agent for Jose to win league or CL.

Instead he started fighting w/ players (some of he's own signings) having a go at your club fans and even mocking how he has knocked out your greatest manager fergie couple of times instead of accepting he got it wrong against sevilla.

Utd board have lost faith in Jose and are careful now spending again huge amounts of money on especially when he can't guarantee u success anymore neither he's project is a long term so why mess w/ clubs future and make it difficult for another manager when Jose decides to leave middle/ next season w/ lots of older players on high wages?

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12 Aug 2018 20:23:36
Jred

Biased - VERY

blinkered - not so much.

We all get something diffetent from supporting a team, and we all have different opinions.

When it comes to utd i am very biased, maybe that's because iv lived my whole life with stoke fans who absolutely hate utd. So i'm a little defensive and uncomprimising.

For me tho, when we talk about scouse, i have nothing nice to say so i don't say anything at all.

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12 Aug 2018 20:33:23
Scholes
You sort of are saying some thing.

Can't stand the scouse but I do enjoy watching football.

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12 Aug 2018 20:38:05
I think its a huge season for Mourinho. I agree it doesn't look like he is being backed. The moment Woodward starts questioning Maguire and Alderweireld as 'no better than what we have' is where it potentially goes tits up big time. Comments like that may indeed suggestion there is a power struggle that Jose can't win.

That said a lot can change in football in the matter of 4 or 5 games. Jose's style of play will never endear himself to many however his track record success-wise speaks for itself. And we knew that style when appointing him.

But he is walking a tightrope with that style unless we are winning. A win takes away all the Boardroom 'back him or sack him' type rhetoric that the press, whom Jose also seems to have uncomfortable relationship with now, will just launch after any unexpected losses.

Personally - I think Jose is a proven World Class manager and if anyone can improve us its him. I believe he can adopt that siege mentality that Ferguson did so many times. I do think he will need to be at his very best to beat City. Pep has ripped up the rulebook with how they performed last season and they are clearly the team to beat. Liverpool look good style wise though they are still players short to win the league. I see them finishing behind City and United again - most likely in that order.

Fixture list has been kind to United in first 2 months and if we are to get anywhere close to City we have to win all games in that period.

Both Chelsea and City have proven in last 2 seasons that if you are capable of putting a 12/ 13 winning games run together you will be favourites to win this league. One thing that Jose has in his locker too is he has beat all the Top 6 teams.

As ever it will be a long and interesting season. Whoever comes out on top they will have deserved it. You can only ever win a league.

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12 Aug 2018 20:39:12
Yeh i suppose i am

Maybe i should describe myself as ultra defensive over utd and that will come accross blinkered.

Ive lead a very hard 37 years living with the mighty potters and its taken its toll.

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12 Aug 2018 20:44:00
HSF, put up with what exactly mate? Premature ej. *😂😂😂.

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12 Aug 2018 20:44:23
Scholes
Lol that's going to take its toll.

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12 Aug 2018 21:00:10
Jred - its a dailly struggle! Its stoke fans and the odd scattered scouse fan.

I was a bad person in a previous life lol.

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12 Aug 2018 21:00:56
Scholes18_18

😁 sunday night banter.

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12 Aug 2018 21:17:11
Scholes_18_18, no. Liverpool have been riding high these last 2 years, getting stronger each year with more and more potency. Where as United have been in decline since Mr. Ferguson retired. Aside from the 1 season blip where United won the Europa League, which by the way when Rafa won it for Chelsea, Mourinho went on to say that he'd be "dissapointed to win that trophy". I wonder if he still thinks it's a disappointment?
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I guess not?

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12 Aug 2018 21:32:13
Hsf

U r a little behind the times.

As soon as utd won the europa jose was questioned more than a couple of times on his comments about rafa winning the europa And jose answered them.

This has been fone to death and we are all wrll aware of joses initial vomments and we are all aware of how he handled the media scrutiny when we won the cup.

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12 Aug 2018 21:51:32
Riding high? In other words you finished behind us last season and we've also won two trophies since Jose's come in, 2 more than Klopp.

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12 Aug 2018 21:56:03
Not embarrassed to say I watched their game today, and enjoyed it. Is that a criminal offence now?

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{Ed025's Note - i done exactly the same noucamp..so lock me up as well mate..

12 Aug 2018 21:58:39
Some really close-minded, deluded people on this thread, if they can't appreciate another team playing good football.

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12 Aug 2018 22:06:37
Not at all nou, but do you enjoy it more than watching United? Now that might be :)

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12 Aug 2018 23:16:20
It's a hard thing to admit as a united fan. in fact firstly i was angry at all the liverpool admiration . they play fast attacking football. what was seen at old Trafford up to 10 years ago. that said the scouse haven't won anything . yet. but city look good too. ah this is just depressing. i'm going back to being angry.

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12 Aug 2018 23:26:54
Angel
Of course not but you can enjoy watching good football.

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13 Aug 2018 00:51:49
I like how Liverpool and Klopp play their football but i also love watching United. Fergie didn't always play pretty football and some of you guys act like we play like football under Tony Pulis.

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13 Aug 2018 03:08:09
Cheers Ed025 for getting back on that, seems to have prompted some cracking comments, i wonder if the glaziers' feeling the pinch in yankland is the driving force behind this? another discussion for another time, cheers again Ed025-be lucky!

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{Ed025's Note - no problem mate..

13 Aug 2018 13:09:04
Deluded nou?

Because i take a different view than u on football? Or my opinion differs on wby i do or don't watch a certain game or team.

U make me laugh.

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13 Aug 2018 13:54:47
Pool play some good stuff I admit, but I will hold off kissing their arse until they win something.

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13 Aug 2018 15:09:30
Again jred I 100% agree. But the argument was whether or not I enjoyed watching Liverpool more than united.

You're now insinuating that I a) don't watch any other games and b) don't enjoy good football

I didn't say either.

I enjoy watching united more than Liverpool unlike some of you on here, that's all 😁.

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13 Aug 2018 17:32:30
I enjoy watching Liverpool lose.

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13 Aug 2018 22:37:03
Evenzidaneratesscholes, deluded because you can't see what's in front of your face. If you want to argue black is white just for the sake of it, then go ahead, but if you're saying that the Liverpool game on Sunday wasn't entertaining, then I don't know what watching Utd every week has done to you.

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12 Aug 2018 10:01:37
{Ed's Note - Reid the Red has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Matches Preview 12 August 2018

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12 Aug 2018 09:37:32
Hi all,
Thanks to the Eds as always.
Pogba's comments, thoughts?

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{Ed004's Note - They have annoyed me and makes him look unprofessional}

12 Aug 2018 10:58:46
Agree Ed. If he hadn't played well then would he have come out and said what he said? Almost as if he was motivated to play hard in order to make those comments afterwards.

Jose also complemented him, so let's hope that's the last of it and he maintains those levels of motivation in the next game, and the next etc.

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12 Aug 2018 09:43:43
Thanks for the quick response Ed. I totally agree. I was/ probably still am pleased he’s still at the club but to be given the (c) and then speak like that I find really low. I blame his agent for large parts of this situation, but on a personal level and as a captain surely one can conduct themselves more professionally. He didn’t even want to celebrate the goal he scored.

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{Ed004's Note - I dont think we will sell him now as we can not replace him. I just hope that over the season they can mend their relationship}

12 Aug 2018 15:39:00
Think it’s inevtiable both go tbh, depending on how successful the season is. If we do lose Pogba, we have to sign SMS to replace him, not sure about Jose. Still, a long time between now and then, anything can happen.

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12 Aug 2018 15:42:54
Gone in January I think. We'll come to some sort of arrangement that gives us time to find a replacement.

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12 Aug 2018 15:44:08
I think at this point you have to hold on to him simply to not set a precedence. If United sold him now it would set a standard that one could throw their toys out of the pram and get their way.

The comments were very unprofessional, especially after being given the captaincy and the bright comments from Jose. I also fully believe Raiola is part of the problem. Paul’s departure is inevitable, however as I said above it must not be this summer.

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12 Aug 2018 08:56:49
ED002 do you see The club selling Pogba to Barcelona before the 31st August.
Do you think its more lokely that he will go in January/ next summer.

Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - I am sorry, I don't try and predict the timings of transfers.}

12 Aug 2018 07:31:38
According to the Guardian, we will appoint a director of football as part of a club restructuring programne and Carrington being expanded. Could one of the eds please help us out and give us some insight into who the club has in mind for this important role, and what when is the likely to happen.

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{Ed002's Note - The club could not previously attract the person they wanted - they will look at candidates very carefully. We will have to see who they look to.}

12 Aug 2018 08:44:06
Thanks ed002 for the update and quick reply.

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12 Aug 2018 07:20:14
Eds, a report in the paper today that we want to appoint a director of football. Any truth in this? I know Ed002 previously said our original choice was not interested. Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - The club will appoint a DoF if the right person can be found.}

12 Aug 2018 11:24:53
Thanks Ed. Are their any potential candidates who you feel would be a good fit for the club?

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{Ed002's Note - There is probably only one option within the club and I don't know if they would look to him, John Murtough. The guy they really wanted is employed elsewhere right now and would likely not welcome an approach or any discussion about the job. If they had looked a few weeks ago and were willing to take a bit of a chance, then Jordi Cruyff would have been, in my view, a good pick - but he has just taken another job. A standout like Rui Costa would be a great solution but again he is in work. So right now they will have a third providing advise and they may well use the third party to assist in the full process.}

12 Aug 2018 15:37:55
Ed002 I love the way you're always in the loop.

And all the other Eds, thanks for accommodating us.

Much love.

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12 Aug 2018 15:53:06
Hi ed, was this third party the one that advised them in the summer window?

It sounded as though Jose had his preferred targets and United didn't opt for those as they felt there wasn't enough value.

It's just interesting to know who was giving advice to Ed Woodward assuming that it wasn't Ed making the calls himself. Be really interested to know.

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{Ed002's Note - I don't understand your question. There was nobody advising the summer transfers.}

12 Aug 2018 17:29:08
It was a good answer even though you didn't understand the question, thanks ed.

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{Ed002's Note - I should say nobody externally.}

12 Aug 2018 19:54:59
Thanks Ed for your thoughts.

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14 Aug 2018 07:57:29
Thanks for the info Ed002.

I know you don't like hypothetical situations or "Ifs" but I want to ask if you were to choose a DoF for Manchester United among the available options going forward, who do you think will be better in improving our footballing sphere (pun intended)?

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12 Aug 2018 07:44:27
"There are things I can say and there are things that I cannot say, otherwise I will get fined, " he told reporters when asked if he felt comfortable at the club

"When people trust you and have confidence then you are good in your own head, it's going to be easier. "
Pogba
Bit of a player manager tiff?

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12 Aug 2018 09:19:32
Those words could have also been spoken by Shaw, or Martial, or Rashford, or any of the CBs. SAF knew that some needed a stick, some needed a carrot.

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{Ed025's Note - but instead some are getting a lot of stick because they are not worth a carrot...sorry just could not resist AJH.. :)

12 Aug 2018 10:42:12
Pogba Just adding fuel to a fire or starting another fire, sorry but the lad brings on criticism himself with his displays and comments like this, no doubt its Jose’s fault Pogba decided to say these words. Wish we’d have got rid, isn’t worth fans saying how great his performances are when actually they are 6/ 10 at best most weeks to justify him, he was let go for a reason and he’s not really improved that much for me, overrated is the exact phrase for Pogba. Wish we’d have gone all out for SMS and let Barcelona deal with his poor ball control, over stretching and falling over in an embarrassing nature to cover up for said control. Some players need a stick, some a carrot and some are just not worth it.

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12 Aug 2018 14:49:44
Probably trying to engineer a move to Barca.

Would it be that much of a disaster if he left without replacement? If the Jose / pogba tiff is unrepairable then might be better all around if he goes. And I am a big fan of PP, but he is so flakey mentally that I can't bear watching him fighting jose all season.

Can he listen to criticism and use it to improve, or does he react badly because he already thinks he's the best in the world? Jose's world cup comments were bang on the money.

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12 Aug 2018 15:54:22
Really unprofessional comments from Pogba. should keep it shut and keep his head down. If he really wants out, work hard, play well and let raiola do the business and secure a move.

He doesn't help anyone with his immature comments.

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12 Aug 2018 07:37:20
Long time reader of the website, very rare poster. Great job by the Eds running this site, thank you!

Paul Pogba needs to shut it now and just get it on with his job. Looks like Mourinho has now extended the olive branch to the players and is willing to stand down in his tiff with the players. Paul Pogba is a very good player with the potential to become a great. But he needs to understand that a lot of football greats put their hands down and worked hard as good professionals to reach where they did. He needs stop being a diva! Gets paid in millions and needs to be pampered by his manager to perform? In any other job, the manager would just tell him to get on with his job. I know what Roy Keane tell him to do.

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Review Of The Day 12th August 2018

12 Aug 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 12th August 2018

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