Manchester United Banter Archive December 12 2012

 

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12 Dec 2012 23:00:42
Is this Percy character on a wind up ?

I don't understand how anyone can sit there and defend Nani's performances over the last 2 seasons.Yes he did have a good spell(5 or 6 games) last season but in general for every good performance there are 10 terrible performances.

His lack of end product is a joke and he can't pick the right pass to save his life.

Marky Mark

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His goals and assists record would seem to argue otherwise, but please, don't make me get into this again.

Percy

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12 Dec 2012 22:55:03
Henry vs Ronny (from earlier)

I'd say Ronny at his peak is a more complete player. Phenomenal left foot, right foot, heading. Strikes pure fear into the souls of defenders when he's running flat out straight at them and can easily slice straight past them in either side like they're not even there. One man defence wrecker.

Henry was a class act, a premiership great, but was less complete- heading not the best, not quite as fast, not quite as good with his left foot. Fergy found him out by playing Phil Neville in a deep defensive inside right centre mid position, and blocking off his favourite area.

Both players have had reps for diving.

Both players inspired a generation.

Both players would be welcome in my Utd team.... Just for fun, imagine this (obviously with a youthful Henry):

___________DDG

RAF___Small____Vidic____Evra

_______Carrick____Jones

___Ronny___Rooney___Henry

_____________RVP


Obviously the fullbacks would receive no cover what-so-ever, so we'd concede hat fulls, but my oh my oh my we would score goals a plenty!! It's be like watching the Harlem Globe Trotters!!

DodgyBanter

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No Comparison as far as I am concerned. Ronaldo just a special player and henry a great striker but no where near Ronaldo, who is in my view the most complete player and even more so than Messi. I do have a bias towards him when doing the messi comparison for obvious reasons.

Shahram

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12 Dec 2012 22:33:56
Pepe is a vile human

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I actually quite like Pepe.... He is entertaining and a top quality player just bad tempered like Zidane was and wants to win.

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Pepe - who?

Mike

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12 Dec 2012 22:28:26
11 Dec 2012 23:59:44
For all those rooney haters.please read this statement
coming from a true liverpool legend,a rival.
Liverpool legend Alan Hansen hailed Wayne Rooney's
performance in Manchester United's victory at
Manchester City. Hansen wrote:
"Wayne Rooney gave an almost perfect performance for
Manchester United against Manchester City and showed
just why he, rather than Robin van Persie, is the one
player you would always want in your team."Van Persie
has been a fantastic addition to the United team and he
showed that again with his late winner at the Etihad,
but his goals are
really the icing on the cake.
"In terms of which player United need most, though, I
would say it is Rooney every time because he offers as
much at right back as he does at right wing and as a
centre forward. When you are sat in the dressing-room
and your best player is also the hardest worker, it lifts
everybody and gives something extra to everybody
else.
So I guess even the so called rivals such as
liverpool,chelsea,man city,arsenal will all sign rooney
and play him over any of their current player.I think we
fans don't value rooney because he plays in week in
week out for us,so we gotten used to him so much to
judge the lad wrongly when other rival fans would want
him in their team not just for his goals but his passion
for our team.I have two brothers whom are both die
hard chelsea and arsenal fans,and they have never ever
stopped praising rooney.they both regard him as
worldclass bcos he gives his heart and body for our
team.but still yet some deluded fans still come out and
say he isn't worldclass and should be sold to buy
lawandoski.his he better half way than rooney is.even
the great dzeko who was top goal scorer in german
league for his then team was once regarded by this so
called fans as better than rooney.well dsame dzeko is
being benched by balotelli and aguero.so think hard
before you even compare rooney to be replaced by
him.if there is any player I pick over rooney would be
messi and ronaldo.not even falcao because without his
goals he offers nothing to the team.so when he doesn't
score he won't even defend half in our defence back the
way rooney does.

Andy p

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Hansen also said you can't win anything with kids so I'm not sure he is the best person to quote when trying to make a valid point ;)

Seriously though, I never understand why people provide quotes when discussing who is a good player. These people who are quoted may have played the game but at the end of the day it is still only their opinion and the day we start taking peoples opinions on football as fact is the day I lose interest in the game.

TK-Red

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Andy, this is the second time you've posted this now. You must be very proud of your point.

StevieK

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I bet you didn't know that Hansen was a man utd fan when a kid.Hard to believe i know
Blckpool Red

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12 Dec 2012 22:12:02
Nani's been in the shop window for 2 years? Are you actually thinking about what you're writing?

Percy
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I agree with you once, then you write this. Percy, it's common knowledge that he has been available since summer 2011, and with good reason.

G.A.G.U.S

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Nobody with any actual knowledge has confirmed this to me. If they've done so for you, please share it and I'll happily concede that I'm wrong. Otherwise, I'll take the speculation for 2011 and think of it as just that, media b*******.

Percy

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Percy

Nani is left footed player who is second choice to Valencia's on the right wing.

Ashley young is a right footed player who plays left wing because we have no one else that can do a better job there.

Nani is frustrating to watch when he is on the right wing but even worse when he plays on the left side. A left footed winger who can't play left wing, can't cross a decent ball and makes the wrong decision 80% of the time is a problem.

In your view and he also sees himself as Ronaldo style winger/forward but you are delusional to even think he is in that sort of mold.

We play a reverse wingers attack, which IMHO is not ideal as it clogs up the middle where the strikers should be operating.

We never go past anyone on the left and everything comes down the right side of the pitch. We have no width as both young and Nani will come inside to get on to their favorite foot and actually narrow up our play in the final 3rd.

Why do you think we are looking at Rodriguez or Isco as replacements for Nani. I can assure you they will not be playing on the right wing and will play on the left side and Ashley Young will be a back up and can also back up valencia on the right position.

In an Ideal world we get a new left winger and young as second choice and will have Valencia on the right side. If Walcot is available for nominal fee it is a good option to have for the right wing.

The reality is we bought a left winger that has not worked out for us and will be offloading him shortly.

Shahram

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12 Dec 2012 21:42:23
"Percy, I like Nani but he has been available for the past two summers at the right price. Zenit nearly signed him in August and Juventus tried signing him the year before that, but Nani didn't want to leave."

Sydney!

Can Ed002 confirm that Nani was available the summer before last if it isn't a problem?

"Sorry mate our best player 2 years ago this time were Vidic and Rooney and Berbatov, so have to completely disagree.

I never put too much stock in a player who has one good season, to be considered a great player you have to do it season after season and in the big games. He has done neither. Last year he was poor and this year is not even worth trying to describe his performance.

We just have different views mate. For example i think Carrick is a good player and willing to wait and see how Welbeck and Cleverly turn out where a lot of people on here think we should dump all of them.

Every team needs squad players and rotation but 22 million purchases are suppose to be stars and starters and Nani is not fulfilling the promise.

If he was on the market today playing for another team, we would not be interested."

Shahram

Why did Nani win our player of the season then? He can't get a game these days through his contract situation and AF's obsession with functionality (Valencia). If he was playing regularly at any other team we'd be rubbishting our pants at the prospect of getting him.

Percy

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Percy seriously? You are blinded to the extent of spooky regarding Nani. If he is this great player then why was nobody interested apart from one club and nobody is willing to pay more than £15 million (less than Henderson) ..... At the end of the day he was a kid who showed immense promise and has actually got worse since he has been here he had the chance when Ronaldo left to come out of the shadows and become the next big thing at United and failed miserably.... The fee we paid will not even be got back when we sell him which tells you something about a player that you supposedly think is world class (Value is supposed to increase on a player after 5 years at United) He is supposedly in his prime years yet has not put in a performance of United standard this season or last... He is frustrating and very average and you can not see that for a strange reason.

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Percy

I did not vote for him and Rooney and Berbatov and our defense was the difference that year.

For everyone else that is voicing a view, how is Nani been a good investment for 22 million pounds. I never said Walcot is a replacement but for a nominal fee he is good signing. He will score more goals than Nani and has more pace than Nani. He is frustrating in many areas as is Nani but as a squad player he will be handy and can be brought on in certain games and can make a difference.

Nani has had 5 years now and he is still a fringe player with a huge ego. So selling him and buying a proper left-winger who will play on the left with ashley young and Valencia and Walcot on the right side is pretty solid if you ask me.

I also think Walcot is improving whilst Nani is regressing. Walcot is a england international and still very young.

Shahram

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12 Dec 2012 21:37:37
I have tried to post a number of times over the past few months regarding my view that Walcott would beat for us but never got it put on...now I feel justified...hope we get him

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12 Dec 2012 21:12:14
What are peoples views on Brian Laudrup being our next manager. He has done an excellent job at swansea with his signings and the way they play and previous coaching experience in spain and obviously has the spanish and scandinavian connection.

Shahram

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Michael Laudrup? He was an excellent player and doing a fine job at Swansea.

He is happy at Swansea, and should be allowed to build something special. Unlike Brendan Rogers who walked out on them for the Scouse-house Anfield.

I am actually a United fan not far from Swansea.

ALDUtd

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Bit early to judge I'd say...

Percy

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I believe it was the Swansea chairman that earmarked the summer signings. Laudrup is inexperienced and has nothing to do with our club. OGS has more managerial experience.

Sydney!

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I am convinced people do not realise the size of the task in replacing Ferguson.
Our own history shows this to be a major task beyond someone with as little gravitas as Laudrup. In fact there are probably only three maybe four managers who could or should be considered. Mourinho, Guardiola, Ancellotti are the right level, outside that would be a major risk.

Red Man {Ed004's Note - Klopp?}

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Isn't it Michael Laudrup?

Hoppy

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I think your right Red Man. I'd feel uneasy about him being at the club but it is hard to look beyond Mourinho, at least in the short term. Long term i'd love to see OGS get the job a few years down the line. If Mourinho either wasn't available or didn't want it i feel Blanc would be the best shout, he is more experianced than some of the other candidates and has a history with the club.

Shappy

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Ed04

Klopp possibly but I am wary as he also has a relegation on his cv.

Mourinho is my firm choice

Red Man

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Sorry lol meant Michael. Mourinho is also my first choice but I don't think our club will stomach his personality.

I think this is his last year at Madrid and we all know Benitez is not a long term Chelsea manager and Mancini is will be replaced at City.

Potentially Chelsea, City and you never know PSG and Arsenal jobs might be open so some serious job openings for a few select managers.

Shahram

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12 Dec 2012 20:13:04
Possible winter inns

Kevin Strootman
Theo Walcott
Baines/jetro williams

Outs

Nani

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I don't think I've stayed at any of them.

StevieK

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Stevie, very funny. As for the post, forget whether we want Walcott or not for a minute - he wants to play up front as a centre forward, not on the wing. Why on Earth would he think he could get into our team when he can't get into Arsenal's. If we were going to sign any of their players, I'd have Wilshire or Ox.

AJH

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12 Dec 2012 20:05:45
Just a quick note to KLOOT.
I did read your reply yesterday mate, I think if u read my post I never once mentioned any of the king, keane, best etc names as a derogatory slant at all was just trying to point out, which I'm guessing didnt come across well as I was on my phone that plenty of our legends have brought "questionable moments" to our club.
I dnt need to learn the history of my club either, I knkw plenty and some, just dont feel the need to bring it up normally to validate my arguments, as I said the players u mentioned are my heros and always will be.
Im not trying to start this whole thing again mate as I do respect u as a fellow red supporter and wish the same great things for my club as im sure u do,
Peace bro
Chris the REDMAN

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12 Dec 2012 19:34:54
To all fellow reds!
as KLOOT has said futher down the page lets all pull together and remember all those makems or whatever they are called celebrating last season when we lost OUR title doing the poznan to us, and use every ounce of will to give then lads the strength to totally demolish sunderland and send them closer to relegation and us to the title!
Chris the REDman

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12 Dec 2012 11:55:20
A couple of questions for the EDDS please?

What do you make of the rumours about united being interested in theo walcott and how true do you think they are? also whats the likely hood of us (united) signing anyone in january and the last question is what do you believe the likelyhood is of united getting lewandoski in the summer? Would appreciate your thoughts on the above questions.

Cheers
M.U.F.C SALFORD {Ed004's Note - 1) I think it is unlikely that we will sign Walcott and I am hoping we don't sign him. I would rather play Nani and I really want a top signing such as Rodriguez, Götze, Ozil, munian and isco in that order except the last 2 2) I think there is a good chance we will see 1 signing at most 2 in January but I have no idea who. Hoping a Nani replacement. 3) I think it looks very likely that we will sign Lewandowski and I think the number 9 is waiting for him}

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Ed004 interesting choices.Do you rate Rodriguez higher than Gotze and Ozil and Muniain?

Shahram {Ed004's Note - Currently I think Ozil is the best but I think Rodriguez is the most likely and he has huge potential. Unsure between him and gotze though}

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I think Goetze is the best one of the lot. I also think we are wasting our time talking Vidal, Goetze, Ronaldo as they are unattainable.

Realistically, Rodriguez and Isco are available as both clubs will sell for the right offer.

Shahram {Ed004's Note - I don't think Vidal or Gotze are unrealistic. There are reports Vidal is unhappy and a significant enough bid for Gotze would be accepted and we could offer far more for his wages and after not winning anything with Dortmund (assuming they don't win the Champions League even though I think they are most likely on current form) might twist his arm in moving abroad to a new challenge}

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Ed004 where are you hearing the stuff with Vidal being unhappy? I read an interview with Vidal just a few weeks ago where he says he is very happy and hopes to be able end his career with Juventus.

I don't believe Dortmund will win the champions league and placed a juicy bet on Bayern beating Real in the final , so hope you are right about Goetze as he should be our big money buy in the summer.

Shahram {Ed004's Note - I thought there were just rumours that he was unhappy when he lost some of his form}

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Ed

I read it some where aswell and tied it in with the wave of new fans he seemed to have on here. It was around the time juve lost first and the team wasn't ticking but I have read since as the other poster says he had commented on staying for a very long time.

I know footballers words are usually taken out of context but I can see him there for a few years as they will be strong for a while IMO and even when he does move it will be for 30m plus.

Jono

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12 Dec 2012 18:45:28
O god of Soccer, we pray thee grant us one request. Let Sunderland get what they have coming - relegation from the top flight starting with MUFC thumping them silly come Saturday and SAF having a good laugh at the press conference. Grant us this we pray thee.
PeeBoaiy

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0-1 fletcher thank you lord

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They have pretty decent defense so a 3-0 result would be great.

Shahram

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Why didn't we put a higher bid in for Ozil when he went to Real Madrid for a paltry £12 million,i'm not saying he would of come, the same applied for Modric when he went to Tottenham.It seems we let players slip through our hands then want to pay double for them a few year later
Balckpool Red

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12 Dec 2012 18:40:13
I have a feeling we may sign Theo Walcott and Van Persie will influence his move to us after the player confessed to missing RVP at Arsenal.......,He will be Nani's replacement and i believe we also have a chance of bringing in a left back in the form of Baines or Jetro Williams and an anchorman in the form of Kevin Strootman ......In our attack i believe in Anderson,Cleverly,Kagawa,Carrick,Young and Valencia complemented with Rooney i think they have been excellentWhat do you think

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12 Dec 2012 18:11:26
1)I am having problems why would someone would consider selling nani for theo.
2)I think Nani is a great player and its our tendency to play slow football which I would consider is a factor in his form dip along with contract issues. No way theo , even if free is a good replacement, a step backwards IMO.
DJ

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Is it because he won't be costing 30 to 40 million, he's a better than some of the other players that would cost that. {Ed004's Note - Because he plays like a headless chicken. Puts his head down runs to the end line and hopes one of his hit and hope crosses falls to somebody. Valencia is better and I want us to sign somebody who is technically good on the ball. I wouldn't mind him if we didn't already have a similar winger.}

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Has'nt walcott scored ten or eleven times this season, not bad for a headless chicken.

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12 Dec 2012 17:51:12
I cannot believe what I'm reading! People want Nani's replacement to be Walcott? Walcott!? I knew ye underrated Nani, but to even suggest Walcott as a replacement is an insult to your own intelligence. Except for pace, he has literally no attribute that even begins to approach the class of Nani. Christ, pull your heads out of your asses and take a look at what your saying! If AF actually does this (which I doubt), it will be one of the worst decisions he's ever made (barring Bebe, Djemba, Obertan, etc).

Percy

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I actually completely agree. Walcott is not good enough. If we replace Nani with him, it's a backward step, and that's saying a lot.

G.A.G.U.S

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Walcut maybe not good enough but Nani has been a waste of player for some time. How is he contributing and earning his price tag. At least walcot will know he is squad player and if cheap not a bad pick up.

Shahram

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Shahram, I knew you knew next to nothing about football, but this takes my disbelief to a new level! Wow.

Percy

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Percy

Get over it, Nani is off no use or has a future with UTD and has been in the shop window for almost 2 years now.

You need to grow up and get some balance

Shahram

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Nani's been in the shop window for 2 years? Are you actually thinking about what you're writing?

Percy

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Percy

There is no point even having this discussion with you as you have zero objectiveness when it comes to Nani.

According to you, he is the best winger in the world LMAOF and if we go by your world giving the guy 120,000 a week would be nothing.

Unfortunately no one else including the club, manager or any other club see it that way.

Getting a Russian club to bite does not exactly support that argument and where are all the suitors if he is that good.

For 20 million pounds there are many better players out there. To me he is one of the the worst footballer when it comes to decision making on the pitch and can't cross worth a damn for a winger and hope we boot him in January.

Walcot is never going to be a direct replacement but if he cost 5 to 8 million, I think that is one hell of pick up and will be a useful squad player.

Shahram

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He was our best player this time 2 years ago.

Percy

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Percy, I like Nani but he has been available for the past two summers at the right price. Zenit nearly signed him in August and Juventus tried signing him the year before that, but Nani didn't want to leave.

Sydney!

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Sorry mate our best player 2 years ago this time were Vidic and Rooney and Berbatov, so have to completely disagree.

I never put too much stock in a player who has one good season, to be considered a great player you have to do it season after season and in the big games. He has done neither. Last year he was poor and this year is not even worth trying to describe his performance.

We just have different views mate. For example i think Carrick is a good player and willing to wait and see how Welbeck and Cleverly turn out where a lot of people on here think we should dump all of them.

Every team needs squad players and rotation but 22 million purchases are suppose to be stars and starters and Nani is not fulfilling the promise.

If he was on the market today playing for another team, we would not be interested.

Shahram

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I actually agree with the OP. To finally let Nani go then replace him with Walcott will not excite me at all. No improvement to the starting 11 and not technically gifted for the style I like to see us play. I understand he would be cheap/affordable but we'd be left with 3 decent wingers whereas I would prefer 2 decent wingers and a world class winger. Now that would improve our squad

Gav

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I agree with Percy when he says that Nani was our best player 2 years ago. He almost carried us through the early part of the season. When on form, he's an incredible player capable of incredible things. I for one would like to see him given another chance at the club, but it looks like he's on his way out.

Ruudinthemood

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12 Dec 2012 15:47:38
ed004 is it possible that we could do a deal with real madrid where we pay 20m a season for ronaldo (assuming he's 100m)
we could also sell hernandez for 20m and add another 20m (from our summer funds) to give them 40m upfront for him. {Ed004's Note - I am not sure. Also not sure I would sell Hernandez}

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12 Dec 2012 17:00:54
Did we use the Moura money on RVP? If not would we not have 35mil to spend then our usual 50+ mill in the summer which could maybe afford Ronaldo. Surely selling Nani and Fringe players could bring us maybe a midfielder as well. My mums company is owned by SAF and his sons and a few other people and I know for a fact that he is in constant contact with Ronaldo (btw SAF properly hates Beckham!)

We can dream !

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I do not think it works like that mate. I also agree with your last sentence. He really dislikes the man. I watched SAF see Beckham walk into a room and his facial expression said it all. When Becks went over to say hello the manager walked in the other direction. This was a couple years ago and I really felt for Becks.

Sydney!

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I know we have invested in the squad and for the future but say Tottenham get another 2 world class players, Chelsea buy again, so do Man City I think we will have to invest in the very highest calibur of player to stay at the top. I am surprised to see us where we are in the league with our midfield and leaky defense at the moment to which SAF must be commended with. With the team we have 1 on 1 in a major final I could not see us beating most of Europes elite these days. Glazers must realise that to keep these sponserships and revenue coming in that we must be at the top. I am sure if Ronaldo would come back they could easily make there money back through added sponsers/titles/champions leagues semis/finals.

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12 Dec 2012 16:10:24
Can't understand why people are wanting Walcott, I'm not denying the deals plausibility, that is why I have said that it is possible. In my mind Nani is far superior to Walcott, Walcott will get paid silly amounts of money and will also moan that he is being played wide as he has ZERO chance of playing through the middle with us. For one of the first times ever this season replacing Nani is a bad thing in my mind. Not saying Walcott is hopeless, but Nani is better and I'd like to keep him (for a change).

Fresh!

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Nani is a much better player than Walnut agreed.

Sydney!

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Obviously we have different view points on Nani usually, but Walcott isn't even a tenth of the player Nani is.

Percy

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Agreed, I wouldn't want Walcott taking up one of the space in our squad, irrelevnt of price.

Gav

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12 Dec 2012 16:06:25
Afternoon Gents,

Something away from the usual, I wanted to bring to you the attention of AC Milan's 15 year old Moroccan, Hachim Mastour.

I'm not suggesting we are linked with him, but google the kid and the videos of him are great, looks a real talent. AC Milan are already talking about him being involved in their first team but need permission from the Italian FA as they cannot field players under the age of 16. Could be one for the future, be great if we could snap him up but I will reiterate, not suggesting we are linked with him or will buy him, just wanted to let you know about him.

Let me know your thoughts.

Ports

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Freddy Adu

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Yes I seen that on yahoo also

GBI

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I saw those videos aswell ports, that kid is mind blowing, as if the ball gets stuck to his feet
DJ

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12 Dec 2012 16:03:55
Very bored, so a question for the regulars/anyone who wants to throw in their hat. What do you think will happen during the January transfer window and will we still be on top?

INS: Walcott £7 million.

OUTS: Nani £15 million, Macheda, Henriquez, Petrucci all loaned out. Expecting King to perhaps leave also - probably permanently.

I'm predicting that we will be 5 points clear by the end of January, likely points droppage will be to WBA, Spurs or Liverpool however City will drop points at Newcastle, Arsenal & then perhaps somewhere like Stoke or Fulham.

Also hoping that by January we will have a fairly settled back four including Rafael, Vidic, Smalling & Evra with DDG being given the number one jersey 9 times out of 10. Also hopefully Anderson & Kagawa will get a good, injury free run as I think that they have the potential to take us very far into the CL.

Fresh!

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I don't see City dropping points at newcastle and arsenal both are in dire straits.

MUMBAI_BOY

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I agree with Mumbai, City couldn't be playing these sides at a better time.

Mumbai, have you been watching the cricket ;)

Sydney!

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City have not been playing very well away from home, Arsenal could easily get a point at home.

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Sydney
World champions in a game you people invented ;)
DJ

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DJ, England have a very good squad of players. What we lack is a couple more decent spinners like Swann. If we had just one more decent spinner we would be far more comfortable playing in Asia.

Sydney!

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Monty?!
DodgyBanter

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Syd, lets not get into that please :p
But we will make it 2-2

MUMBAI_BOY

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12 Dec 2012 14:55:31
When Ronaldo went from a boy to a man. Ruined Arsenal over two legs in the 2007/08 CL. Top it off with a 35-40 yard free-kick

ALDUtd

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How I would love those days back!

Fresh!

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This was meant to be in reply to the post about what made legends, legends at our club

ALDUtd

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You mean 2008-09?

19-20 MUFC

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Yeah, mah bad. The same year he left in the summer.

ALDUtd

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12 Dec 2012 12:16:52
walcott is a loserpool fan so if he let his contract run out i could see him going there.. thankfully, would prefer rodriguez.
don't care if walcott would be free or not, he is simply not good enough.
id rather spend 30m on a player that can beat his man and has the potential to become a world class player.

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The same Rodriguez who plays on the left or centrally behind the striker..... We would still bring in a left sided player and Walcott would just mean 2 options on the right and it may kick Valencia back in to some good form as he has no competition at the minute.

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I don't think that we would sign Rodriguez, our forward line would simply be too full. We have to fit Kagawa in somewhere as well remember. We would have RVP, Hernandez, Welbeck, Rooney, Kagawa, Walcott, Valencia & Young for three or 4 positions. We also then will be looking to accomodate the likes of Henriquez and Keane at times.

Fresh!

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But young can also play on the right...and so can rodriguez.

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Kagawa can play deeper too.

Supasub

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12 Dec 2012 11:51:09
Walcott being mentioned as possible Jan signing after Arsenal offer £75K per week take it or leave it deal. Maybe just maybe he wants to be reunited with RVP. Transfer fee said to be in the £8 million region, multiple sports sites running this story...

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12 Dec 2012 11:49:24
banter please ed

a friend of mine who told himis a arsenal fan
told me that ronaldo cr7 would not be able to lace henry boots

so i think he is crazy
was wondering what all of you thought

quie1989

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Ronaldo is a player who scores 50+ goals a season.. i don't think there is anyone since the prem began that is anywhere near his talent.
henry IMO was a feat player but great players win the ballon d'or and henry even at his greatest never won it and the players that beat him to it are the players that we say ronaldo is better than.

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Henry was excpetional, I would love to have seen him in a United shirt. It's wrong to compare them.

AJH

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12 Dec 2012 11:49:24
banter please ed

a friend of mine who told himis a arsenal fan
told me that ronaldo cr7 would not be able to lace henry boots

so i think he is crazy
was wondering what all of you thought

quie1989

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Although Henry was a great player and a EPL legend, Ronaldo was on a slightly higher level than him.

Sydney!

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I agree syd but my friend told my i did not know any thing about football if i thought ronaldo was a better player tha henry

quie1989

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Couldn't put in any better than Syd. Both top, top quality though

Gav

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12 Dec 2012 11:39:02
With United failing to bring in Lucas Moura last summer and him being a player who plays on the right side of a front three and with Nani inevitably leaving who is also a right sided player it wouldn't be surprising to see us try for Walnut who is available for nothing in the summer. It would be a cheap option and not the manager's 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice I'm sure, but it maybe worth a gamble if he is free. This would enable us to concentrate on the midfield area in the summer and the defence. We will be swapping a frustrating Nani for a more frustrating Walcott IMO, but I think with Walcott being free (so to speak) it would give the manager an option that if didn't work out wouldn't be detrimental to the club's finances.

Sydney!

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I think we should sell nani in january for 15-20m and buy strootman/bender then in the summer get walcott on a free and baines after selling evra to PSG.

i would of preferred:
ins: strootman/bender - january.
baines
rodriguez
new cb

OUT:
nani- january
evra
giggs
scholes
macheda
bebe

JK92

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I still think we need a left footed winger.

DesiRed.

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Fair point on his day Walcott like Nani can be awesome but if he didnt work out we could sell him for at least £15 million.

Mad Hatter

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I have a feeling Walcot could be absolutely electrifying at United.
His pace alone would help us keep teams pinned back terrified to push high up the field and on the counter attack would be a huge asset he is also best mates with RVP so for me its a no brainer.

Fergie sign him up.

P.s he could also be sh1t and frustrate the life out of everyone...ha

Devil Dust.

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In fairness to Walcott, he is not as bad as people make out on here. He has scored a fair few goals this season and his finishing has greatly improved. If he is a money saving signing though, who do you think we will go for then Sydney with the majority of our transfer budget?

Fresh!

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To be fair to walcott his pace isn't his only attribute, he's also a pretty clinical finisher

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Fresh, the club have looked at cheap options like Ince, Zaha & possibly Walcott, we have also made bids for Rodriguez and Moura so I am not sure if Walcott would be an alternative to Rodriguez as they play in different positions. If we went for Walcott I would like us to go for Baines, Oezil and Bender. Oezil would replace Scholes and could play left or right wing if needed. Bender is a good solid and technical midfielder who will sure things up.

Who we go for will depend on who leaves, but I think Strootman, Baines & Rodriguez are strong possibilities and I wouldn't be disappointed if they three and Walcott came in with Nani, Scholes & Ev heading out.

Sydney!

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Sydney
Is this really you? U favoring walcatttttt?
Its not even half of nani.. Even on free..
Then we r batter with nani..

Whrs ppls mind who even thinks this should happen. Walcot is stalling because he wants center st's role.. And we already have much m7ch batter players even in reserves than him.
Rodio17

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So Sydney, how do you propose Ozil would replace Scholes? Do you see him playing alongside someone like Carrick in the centre of midfield? I don't understand how people say that Ozil could replace Scholes, he's not even that similar to the Scholes of old.

Fresh!

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I think as a freebie it wouldn't hurt to sign him, if it doesn't work out we sell him on at a profit. He would make a decent squad player.

Sydney!

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Fresh, Oezil is a top quality b2b midfielder. He can pass, shoot, he is quick and full of energy. He can defend and would replace Scholes easily. Alongside someone like Bender he would do great. The best thing about Oezil is his versatility. He can play anywhere bar keeper, defence & striker.

Sydney!

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SAF doesn't strike me as a manager who buys a player based predominantly on his price being low. I'd rather we signed a better all round footballer than Walcott, irrelevant of price

He is a decent player but not quite good enough to improve an elite club IMO (Us, City, Chelsea)

Syd, I am surprised you'd be up for him based on his ability, bearing in mind you're so damning of Bale, for instance, who is twice the player. I understand the prices are not comparable but whoever we sign is likely to be the only wide man we get so I'd rather it be someone who improves our starting 11 drastically

Also, on Oezil - he is a great player and I'd love to see him at United. But for me he is a flar/creative player. I've never really seen him as Box2Box and not sure his defence and work ethic would be good enough to play in a midfield 2 in the PL. Could be wrong though as I can't say I watch him on a weekly basis

Gav

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Gav, I would prefer Rodriguez who will be a massive star. The reason I wouldn't want Bale is due to his lack of fluidity and his massive valuation. Walcott is far more fluid than Bale and as a freebie would be a decent option. However I would prefer to spend £30m on Rodriguez.

Sydney!

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Agreed on that one Syd; I'd like Rodriguez if we go for a wide man or Oezil if we switch to a narrower formation. I wouldn't want Bale either as I'd prefer us to play a more technical, fluid game as you say. But I guess I don't rate Walcott that highly and am not convinced with his composure and technical ability if he was to come inside. He's a good, fast RWF imo but not the best all round footballer.

Gav

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12 Dec 2012 11:03:14
Who does everyone fancy in the draw for the last 16? Is it true we cant get arsenal at this stage- pity, based on last night that would be as good as a bye!
Galatasaray are proabably next worse but obvioulsy cant get them either so who's the prefered choice, maybe celtic but you never know with games up there- we've struggled last few times, personally i'd take milan- would be a great scalp and they are a shadow of their former team.

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Milan or Celtic.

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Milan defo, we would crush them silly.

ms85

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12 Dec 2012 10:58:55
Message to all United supporters on this site. Lets agree we are not going to agree about Rooney and move on. Far more important is Sunderland. Lets just take some time to remember how their supporters celebrated about City winning the league. I hope that Sir Alex shows the team a film of their supporters just before the game and we go out and smash them. I for one am hoping that they get relegated and we can have a joint celebration at the end of the season. I AM KLOOT

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Bang on KLOOT, I used to respect them but I too hope there relegated

Big Mac

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I was going to post about Rooney getting bashed and how disgusted I am with it but what KLOOT says is right for a change.
Everyone has their opinion on certain players for whatever reason rightly or wrongly but the important thing is stuffing Sunderland at the weekend and really kick on from here.

Devil Dust.

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KLOOT

You have hit the nail on the head. May be we would never be in agreement about Wayne. But there is absolutely no two ways about how we feel about the Sunderland fans doing the poznan. There is nothing less i would settle for than a good ol' hammering. The gaffer and the boys will be up for it. Can't wait for Saturday!

Deeps...

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I really hope we smash them and give those geordie wannabes a lesson.

JK92

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We are due a rout and I hope the manager doesn't tinker with the team too much this weekend.

Sydney!

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One of if not the best post Kloot has written.


Cult of Personality

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I was hoping for 10-0..... so it goes down in history books as the biggest win in premier league history..

NEVER TO BE FORGOTTON.....

that will show them...

however in all honesty any win will do even if it is a hard fought 1-0.

Oxred

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Well said. Really hope we keep a similar starting 11 and show them how wrong they were to give us added incentive to take them apart. I'm sure SAF has not forgotten

Gav

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12 Dec 2012 10:38:38
Banter please Eds.

Morning Gents,

Especially to Sydney!, JakeW, (thought you'd missed me for a minute there mate), Gav, Christheredman and most importantly the legend that is KLOOT.
It's always nice to do business with you guys and don't worry I did read all your posts this morning including yours GDS posted at 1.30am, nice that you say to ignore me but then mention me in your post. Class.

Anyway I digress, back to a couple of points, firstly well played Bradford, we were sh**e and got exactly what we deserved, whether we recover from this wonderful world of a business plan we're in god only knows, but I love the Arsenal and that's my lot for now. Can but hope for the future hey.

Secondly I was fairly bored yesterday and on some levels I do apologise, but I do regularly read your page as you know as I've popped over before and even got someone correcting my deliberate spelling mistakes of players names on one occasion, bet some of you even laughed at that. But that's history and was somewhat funny at the time; anyway some of you guys pop over and check out what we're saying, it's just a thing we do.

So this was how it went, I thought I'd post some comments on your page which were actually from posts loads of you had put on about your own players, added a few bits of my own, you know the sows ears and stuff, the one player team, also made sure I put in about the players you all pretty much agree are spot on, Kagawa, RVP, Rafael, Smalling, Jones, Powell but I think I forgot DDG, mentioned the Rooney world class thing , mentioned stats, got it all in there, then also and the best bit added the stuff about Saints and watching George Best, Bobby Charlton etc. it was true but I wanted to hook in someone in particular, yes the legend that is KLOOT, knew he'd pick up on it and I did reply KLOOT but it never got through , my only disappointment was the joke you used KLOOT, it must be older than you buddy, sure it will come back into being funny one day. So in effect lit the touch paper and off you all went slagging yourselves.

The deluded and lost the plot comments about things you have all posted were the best. Finally I genuinely do apologise if I offended any of you, its harmless banter and as an Arsenal fan I'm getting plenty of stick right now and unfortunately don't see it ending anytime soon.

Take care out there guys and if I give I'm always happy to take it.

Stoner

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So when I said in my post at 1:30 you were either deluded or a WUM I was spot on? I am glad you are the latter as if you actually believed the twaddle you came out with yesterday I would be worried about your health.

You need to remember that you took stuff from posts people posted on here, but I bet you didn't take anything from the posts from the people who replied to you, probably from the no names who are WUMs like yourself. So well done I guess, but by being how you were last night you made every united fan on here pray for you to lose that shoot out last night. So maybe the defeat was all your fault?

GDS

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How many of you guys think Stoner's post would have been entirely different, had Arsenal beat Bradford 3-0 or 4-1 ?

DesiRed.

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It was Stoner Bashing Time on this site yesterday

I'm glad you had fun, I think we all did to an extent....but it got a whole load funnier when the Arsenal result came in!

I was surprised at you're timing TBH, schoolboy error

Gav

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12 Dec 2012 09:29:30
please not let these walcott rumours be true, he'll make the team worse if anything!

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Walcott on a free wouldn't be too bad, if it didn't work out United could sell him for £15m.

Sydney!

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I thing if we can get him for 5-7 M in Jan or for free in the summer, it should be a good deal

Desired.

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Could inject some much needed pace into the team given that running fast is the only thing he is good at currently...I dont think he has reached anywhere near his potential under Wenger but if you look at how Fergie brought on Ronalso then it has to be worth a shot if he is on a free.

IrishRed

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12 Dec 2012 09:08:32
I thought this might worth some. One match/moment that defined their legacy as Manchester United Legend/Great.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer: 1999 Champions league final
Ryan Giggs: That FA Cup goal against Arsenal
Roy Keane: That night in Turin
Please, keep this going by added more legends and their moments of greatness. Thanks
PeeBoaiy

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Scholes was already a legend by then but still that goal against Barca in the semis. pure class.

DesiRed.

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Robson that night v barcelona when they had maradonna. also cantona just for being cantona. steve bruce v sheffield wednesday to win us the game and league

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Cantona: his kung fu kick on that mouthy fan...or else his FA Cup winning goal against Liverpool!

IrishRed

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Jimmy Greenhoffs goal in the Goodison semi in 1979.

Was too young to go, and we couldn't afford to go to football matches anyway.

Listened to it on the BBC Radio Manchester with my two brothers and my dad. The semi's weren't live on tv in them days, but the game was on Sportsnight, a bit later on. My dad went to the local pub and bought us 3 bottles of coke and a pack of quavers each to watch it

We lost the final against Arsenal, but I don't remember ever being happier, than that night as a Manchester United fan.

Mike the Moston Red

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Solskjaer became a legend when he chopped down I think rob lee at home v Newcastle and got sent off !

John the fireman

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Big Pete in the away game v Newcastle where he made save after save allowing Cantona to win it 1-0 and us to start the massive clawback.

Yorke and Cole (together) in the away game v Barca in the 3-3 draw. One of the best games I have seen.

Jono

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Last minute winners against Liverpool.

John O'Shea & Rio Ferdinand

TJ

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Teddy Sheringham, for the equaliser in the final that everyone forgets.

G.A.G.U.S

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Great thread! Will never forget any of these great moments...

Gav

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O'shea for that winner against liverpool in front of the kop!
Chris the REDman

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John Terry, Manchester United hero. Moscow '08.

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12 Dec 2012 08:55:40
with the crucial christmas period cuming ahead i think we have a strong team now with vidic returning, we have all our defenders back and kagawa may also return so we can rotate our team for the busy period ahead.

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Not sure if time can "cum", but who knows , the world is progressing each day
DJ

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12 Dec 2012 08:27:40
I have no doubt I will get slated but for 8 mill I would take Theo
Jred

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Jred, I think there is a massive possibility Walnut could be running down his contract to join United in the summer for free. If it didn't work out he wouldn't be hard to sell.

Sydney!

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To add to that he would suit the style of play that we are looking to adopt. He would be an out ball and a player that would finish teams off when defenders are tired. I see him as a Supersub like Hernandez, but would Walnut be happy with such a role? I guess if he gets his £80k a week he will be happy.

Sydney!

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Sorry boys, but Walcott would be our Nani replacement. Considering Nani would leave for what, £15-20m, and Walcott would come in for free.....that would leave us with Valencia and 2 x average, over-rated English wingers in Young and Walcott.

You reckon the Nani money would be ploughed back into the club? Coz I don't. If we used it towards a CM, couldn't argue with that, but IMO, Nani is a more skillful, creative and (cannot believe I'm saying this) is no more inconsistent than Theo.

Bad business, IMO.

RED_SKY

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I'm with RED_SKY on this one, we would be left with 3 average-to-good winger's. Still not one 'worldie' in that position could me a big mistake

Gav

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12 Dec 2012 06:23:10
I know Walcott is ridiculously frustrating but he would provide competition for Valencia and links up with RVP great. It may be the kick up the bum Valencia needs. If Nani gets sold a choice of 4 wigers of Rodriguez, Young, Valencia and Walcott would be great and Walcott may actually be good business for the money.

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Utter rubbish Wacott is 1 dimensional

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The only way i would take walcott would be on a free transfer and pay him less than 20k :)

Giants14

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If anyone was to come from arsenal it has to be willshere.


ms85

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Did I not say he is frustrating and I never said he was better than valencia but as you can see when players have no competition like Evra, Reina etc they become complacent... We have no right winger to rotate or even bring on unless we play Rooney or Welbeck out wide so how is Walcott a bad buy for what we can get him for?

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I imagine that Walcott will sign for a club like Liverpool who have rubbish strikers so that ge can play through the middle which is what he keeps saying he wants to do.

Fresh!

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12 Dec 2012 17:36:14
@ above
More one dimensional than Valencia?
Desired.

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12 Dec 2012 01:45:49
For Darren, Deeps and the rest of the Rooney fan club - just leave it now lads.

I know it hurts so much to think that there are people out there who don't share your love and admiration for the guy, but I think you'll also find that most of us 'haters' have at some point or another variously stated that we:
a. appreciate the lad is a good player,
b. still support him when he is playing for Utd. Feelings were made known vocally at the time regarding what people thought of his actions, and the point was made.
c. have not actively called for him to be sold, unless silly money is offered.
d. appreciate a good performance when that is the case.

Hardly the views of people seeking to cast him as a pantomime villain.

Quite simply, we just don't like the lad for his previous actions. I'm sorry if this is hard for you to understand, and I know you would just love to, but you cannot make us like him.

It's not an irrational dislike, or a dislike that's just for the sake of it, or a dislike without valid grounds. We have good reasons, which everyone is aware of.

And finally for all those who reiterate that everyone deserves a second chance. The very fact he is still employed at this club shows he was given a second chance.


StevieK

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Stevie you don't like him based on speculation and you sit waiting for him to slip up or not perform up to par to bring up how he treated the club. How many other players got second chances? Doesn't it strike you as more than a coincidence that we miss out on Sneijder due to wage demands then we break the old wage structure? Hmmm I think there is more to my side then just a conspiracy. You believe anything you read apparently so you must really not like that alien that got that girl pregnant?

Darren-Bermuda

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12 Dec 2012 08:38:14
i heard it wasn't an alien, i heard it was sterling.

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Stevie

Show me one single post where KLOOT has ever praised Wayne's performance. And if you are telling me that all his performances so far this season have been yawn inducing to the extent that i count his misplaced passes, surely, surely we are watching different games. A player can be considered worldclass based on what he brings to the team. Yet the only yardstick to measure him for you guys is how he fares in comparison to Ronney/Messi. The feeling that comes across honestly is, would you rather want the team fail just to feel vindicated about Rooney. I will agree with one thing, atleast you have acknowledged how Rooney has performed(sometimes i have asked you explicitly for comments), but there are others in your "We dont like Wayne for his actions" group, that think honestly he is of no use. And my friend i have a HUGE problem with that.

Deeps...

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Missed a couple of days and I can see saturday can't get here fast enough lol.

If I may, I think everyone is misunderstood and way too emotional about this whole Rooney thing. I for one would not sell Rooney unless we had no funds to buy what would make us a better team.

In a scenario of needing funds, No one will convince me a United team without Rooney having bee sold for 50-60 million would be a worse team if we used those funds to have buy Goetze, Vidal and Lewandowski.

or

Goetze/Busquets or Verrati /lewandowski

I did not get into buying left wingers as I believe the Nani funds will allow us to buy a replacement with Muniain being my favorite for what you get for the price you pay. I am not convinced Rodrigues is better and don't believe for a minute he is worth the 40 million release clause as reported.

I am also not convinced we will buy Hummels or a centre back for that matter given what we have and what is potentially coming through the ranks and assume we will have buy a left back as net spend.

Anyway as they say this is all conjecture and we should have a net 50 to 70 million to spend this summer which should be fun to watch.


Shahram

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Ok this the last I'm commenting on the Rooney issue, because even I'm getting bored with having to re-explain everything to those who don't read the posts but just get their panties in a twist when they see a post with Rooney mentioned, and my name at the bottom.

Darren - please don't presume to know what I am thinking. Unless I have actually said I am sitting waiing for Rooney to slip up,don't assume that is the case. That would be to the detriment of the club, and the club is what I care about, not one man.
He submitted a transfer request and stated the club didn't match his ambitions. That is fact, not speculation. I reserve the right to dislike ANY player who thinks this club is not good enough for him. Finally you say I believe everything I read. Apart from the above being the facts, I'm not the one who is taking the word of an aul cokehead like Bosnich as gospel. Do you believe everything a washed-up aul hasbeen of a player says?

Deeps, I like to think you are a bit more mature and reasoned than Darren. I will give Rooney credit when he plays well, just like any other player. He is not IMO world class, but he is a very good player. I appreciate the effort he is making on the pitch. I know we would be worse off as a team without him rather than with him. I do not believe in cutting off my nose to spite my face. You'll just have to accept that I will never like him for thinking this club wasn't good enough for him. KLOOT does not speak for all of us who dislike Rooney, and I know its difficult for him to give Rooney any credit at all on the pitch, but he does articulate why many of us do not like him.

Noname, you sound like a proper little glory hunter, who puts his desire to win everything at all costs, above the reputation and prestige of our club. But for the record, I have never said we are a better team without him.

Can we talk about something else now please?

StevieK

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12 Dec 2012 01:36:56
The most ironic thing about the Kloot - Rooney debate is that kloot comes on here and questions the ambition of the glazers and says how dreadful they are. Rooney did the same thing, his comments when he asked for a transfer were request could have come from a kloot post. So why is kloot allowed to question the glazers and the club but one of the players isn't?

Rooney has apologised for his actions and since then had given his all as far as I can see, he hasn't reached the dizzy heights some expected when we signed him but he is a match winner and one of the most important players in our team.

On another note, that stoner chap that has been shooting his mouth all day with absolute drivel, he is either the most deluded man on the planet (and that is saying something looking at the Liverpool page) or he is just a WUM (windows update manager ed) and nearly everyone fell for it. Muppets like that are sometimes left ignored.

Also, not seen blaire mayne for a while, have Liverpool not won a match on a weekend united didn't win for that long?

GDS

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GDS, Rooney and his agent used the United fan's hatred of the Glazers to justify his greedy actions. It had nothing to do with club ambition and all to do with how much he will be paid.

Now I have no problem with Rooney getting the salary he deserves and IMO he deserves the salary he has, but to manipulate the fans and using the club's ambition as an excuse was not on.

However I do get your post and the point about the irony, but Kloot knows like most of us that the club's ambition had naff all to do with Rooney telling the club he wants to leave, it was all about the cash.

Sydney!

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Syd

Manchester City could have blown us out of water as far as any potential wage demands were concerned. I honestly dont think it was only about the salary, if it was, and if the conspiracy theories were true, Wayne would be playing for City! I think it was as much to do with "Ambition" as RVPs "public" announcement was to do with Arsenal's "Direction".

Deeps...

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Deeps, I am not saying it was all about the money, I think United are paying him less than he first demanded. I think it was a combination of big money and him not wanting the hassle of moving to a rival. Club ambition had nothing to do with it IMO. RvP was always moving to United according to SAF.

Sydney!

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Sorry to have a go, Syd, but in two consecutive posts in the same thread:

"...it was all about the cash"

"I'm not saying it was all about the money...."

Um, yeah you are!

RED_SKY

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RED_SKY, I think the reason for Rooney's actions was 100% money orientated. But after the mess he caused I think he realised that it would be less hassle to move to City. So he compromised and stayed put and signed a new deal.

Does that make sense mate?

Sydney!

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12 Dec 2012 00:39:02
Rooney along with Chicarito are my favourite United players

James

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12 Dec 2012 00:13:10
Why is everyone bringing up this Rooney debate? Who cares, he put in a hell of a display last season and in my mind I wouldn't care if he costs double what he's on, I'd rather see him in red than blue!

On a more up to date note, James McCarthy of Wigan... a player who's got to be catching the eye of the United Scouts, him or Wanyama for me as our next signing. {Ed007's Note - I know about Wanyama but is McCarthy any good?}

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Bond, I've heard he is average at best.

GDS

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GDS - Average is being nice to say the least ;)

George

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11 Dec 2012 23:59:44
For all those rooney haters.please read this statement coming from a true liverpool legend,a rival.


Liverpool legend Alan Hansen hailed Wayne Rooney's performance in Manchester United's victory at Manchester City. Hansen wrote:
"Wayne Rooney gave an almost perfect performance for Manchester United against Manchester City and showed just why he, rather than Robin van Persie, is the one player you would always want in your team."Van Persie has been a fantastic addition to the United team and he showed that again with his late winner at the Etihad, but his goals are
really the icing on the cake.
"In terms of which player United need most, though, I would say it is Rooney every time because he offers as much at right back as he does at right wing and as a centre forward. When you are sat in the dressing-room and your best player is also the hardest worker, it lifts
everybody and gives something extra to everybody else.


So I guess even the so called rivals such as liverpool,chelsea,man city,arsenal will all sign rooney and play him over any of their current player.I think we fans don't value rooney because he plays in week in week out for us,so we gotten used to him so much to judge the lad wrongly when other rival fans would want him in their team not just for his goals but his passion for our team.I have two brothers whom are both die hard chelsea and arsenal fans,and they have never ever stopped praising rooney.they both regard him as worldclass bcos he gives his heart and body for our team.but still yet some deluded fans still come out and say he isn't worldclass and should be sold to buy lawandoski.his he better half way than rooney is.even the great dzeko who was top goal scorer in german league for his then team was once regarded by this so called fans as better than rooney.well dsame dzeko is being benched by balotelli and aguero.so think hard before you even compare rooney to be replaced by him.if there is any player I pick over rooney would be messi and ronaldo.not even falcao because without his goals he offers nothing to the team.so when he doesn't score he won't even defend half in our defence back the way rooney does.

Andy

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Andy, I don't think there's many on here doubt he has talent, and he works hard for the team. It's the whole debacle over his transfer request that has soured a lot of people's feelings towards him

It's why, for many, he will be cheered like the other players when they're out on the pitch, but there will never be any real love or affection for the lad.

Which is a shame, because he's the sort of player I and many others do appreciate. But he made his bed....

StevieK

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Stevie grow up when Rooney is not around we are crap. People like you do my head in

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Some people don't appreciate what they have until its gone. Some can't even see what they have

Jred

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