Manchester United Banter Archive July 13 2015

 

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13 Jul 2015 22:24:15
Hi folks imo Wilson and hernandez is not enough back up to Rooney. If Rooney gets injured we would be in trouble with the aforementioned players. May get away with it at a lower side but not against top 4. Hernandez is not good enough anyway. Can anyone see lvg splashing out money for cavani thoughts

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14 Jul 2015 10:49:19
Splashing money out for Cavani's thoughts?

He better have seen some nude celebrities to make them worth to be paid for ;)

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13 Jul 2015 22:19:09
Rumours Liverpool willing to spend all sterling's money on reuss! Shall we hijack?

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14 Jul 2015 00:33:14
Surely if Reus isn't bothered about Champions League football he would just stay at Dortmund. If he is bothered about Champions League football, then surely he knows he will most likely not get that at Liverpool even next season, but will most do so at Dortmund next season. If he is looking to move, then we should at least try and sign him, unless of course we already have a deal lined up for another marquee winger/forward, like Bale or Muller.

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14 Jul 2015 07:39:06
Pep

Of the £44m for Stirling they had to give circa £10m to QPR and have already spent heavily on Firmino plus are improving their stadium so they may not have the sort of money to buy Reus. I recall Reus was a player of interest to Madrid in the past so for me Reus is a level above where they are. In answer I would only look at Reus if DiMaria demands to go to PSG and Bale isn't available, even then Griezman has made big strides to be considered. One thing about Reus and I can't check as am on holiday where the signal is at best intermittent is that I recall he has suffered several notable ankle injuries. Is there a weakness there? Nonetheless Reus is an excellent player but Bale is a level above.

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14 Jul 2015 08:00:11
They haven't just been given a big lump sum of cash either. That's just not how it works.

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14 Jul 2015 10:19:33
I thought they got 44 upfront! Doesn't mean they can't off 44 to dortmund and not pay it all at once. I doubt he'd go to Liverpool anyway considering how poor they are

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14 Jul 2015 12:10:48
Pep

QPR had a 25% sell on clause so should ,(if true) be entitled to at least £11m or more. The Eds have said deals need to be paid over 3 yrs max so the amount the Scousers receive will be far less than people think. As to whether Reus would go there, well he is an A list player so would likely have A list clubs after him and at the moment Liverpool are not in that bracket, no matter what some media would have you believe

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13 Jul 2015 22:03:01
This weekend has many of us in dreamland, so let's stay there for a little bit longer.

Who would be your dream signings for the rest of the window?

For me I'd like to see us keep DDG, but I'd let Di Maria go if that is what he wanted.

The two players I'd like to see signed would be Nicolas Otamendi and Antione Greizmann.

Who would you want?(be realistic)

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13 Jul 2015 22:11:57
I really don't want adm to go

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13 Jul 2015 22:14:17
Otamendi and reus

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13 Jul 2015 22:15:10
Let Di Maria go and go all out for Bale. For a CB, Hummles, a fantastic foundation for our passing game.

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13 Jul 2015 22:15:59
I'd like to keep de Gea and di Maria, sign Otamendi and lacazette.

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13 Jul 2015 22:20:57
'Dream signings' and 'be realistic'. Make your mind up, Snappy!

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13 Jul 2015 22:21:13
Shappy :)

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13 Jul 2015 22:28:35
I'd be over the moon with your two choices Shappy.

If Bale was even of the slightest possibility then he'd be my number 1 target. The only available player in that tier behind Ronaldo and Messi.

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13 Jul 2015 22:30:24
Otamendi a definite. I still think Ramos is just angling for a bigger Real paycheque though allegedly him and his wife have been taking English lessons past 6 months.

Bale is the obvious choice and I do think we are in for him again but Benitez wants to build a team around him / Perez thinks he's his long lost love child / he wants to stay to prove himself.

So. if I can only have one I would continue the trend of buying pure class players aged 30 and bring Ronaldo home.

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13 Jul 2015 22:32:37
Come on Steve, just covering myself knowing some smart arse would say Neuer, Messi and Ronaldo or something nonsensical.

I should have said dream signings based in the real world. Lol.

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13 Jul 2015 22:42:04
Additional Wide Options:

Pedro, Reus, De Byrne

Pastore - to play off Rooney - not really needed just think he's class!

Immobile - Back up for Rooney or
Lacazette - Back up for Rooney

Zlatan - So Rooney can learn about holding up play and linking play as a sole striker

Bale - is the ideal if not probable option

I think Otamendi is nailed on

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13 Jul 2015 23:11:06
Ok then. Cavani and Hummels :)

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13 Jul 2015 23:50:56
Assuming De Gea goes - Cillessen & Muller
Assuming he stays - Otamendi & Muller


If muller is to much of a dream signing, swap him out for Kane.

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14 Jul 2015 00:36:46
I would keep De Gea and Di Maria, and sign Lewandowski, Bale, and Hummels/Otamendi. IF De Gea leaves, I would sign Leno, Lopes, Cillessen, or Lloris. If Di Maria leaves, I would sign Felipe Anderson as well as Bale.

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14 Jul 2015 07:11:23
if we keep DDg and ADM then we should sign otamendi and kane . if only DDg goes and ADm stays then Cillessen and otamendi

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14 Jul 2015 07:28:15
Dreaming I would see Lewandowski up front and Ramos at the back plus Di Maria replaced by Bale. That for me would make us the team to beat. I would be happy if Di Maria stayed but if we get our money back from PSG and Bale became available I would do the deal. I recall Ed02 saying many weeks ago that Bale may be available at the right price but we shall see.

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14 Jul 2015 09:41:34
I'd keep DeGea and ADM and sign Otamendi and Muller. Think we would have the best XI in the prem

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13 Jul 2015 21:32:56
Does any one know of Lingard will be staying this season? Him and wilson as back up to rooney could be enough?

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13 Jul 2015 21:48:41
More of an attacking midfielder/ wide man than an out and out striker

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13 Jul 2015 22:07:49
Pep, I don't think Jesse will get a look in. Wilson has huge potential but I think we look light up front.

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13 Jul 2015 22:11:14
R we letting him stay tho?

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14 Jul 2015 08:57:27
He's in the tour squad so that's a good sign for him, hope he takes his chance.

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13 Jul 2015 21:02:15
Well at last we finally have a midfield to compete for major trophies. Exciting times. And for the Van Gaal knockers, Schweinsteiger probably wouldn't have signed but for him.
Just a top cb (Otamendi) and another striker then wow what a team. Think Van Gaal has quickly realised what we needed and our team and squad is getting better and better. Can't wait for the seaaon to start!

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13 Jul 2015 22:48:28
What's all this about Van Gaal's Knockers? We all wind up with man boobs mate - it's a bit harsh he's in his 60's and has just pulled off 4 top signings!

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14 Jul 2015 01:07:06
well in bastis interview when asked was lvh a big influence in his move. he said no, it was mainly the thought of playing for utd

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13 Jul 2015 20:40:59
I'm getting a bit worried tbh we still haven't signed a centre back or striker and now the whole squad has gone to America for two weeks on holiday! What the hell are woody and LVG doing !!

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13 Jul 2015 21:04:33
Can't believe you have the gaul to post your (clearly wrong) opinion on this site. Your post is contrary to what I think therefore I have the right to degrade and mock you for holding such a stupid and contrary view.

Hopefully you will change your ways following this condescending ticking off and we can be best friends again in three posts time. If not then I will stalk your every post and call you out like the NITK (not in the know) that you are!

Also, woody has a capital W.

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13 Jul 2015 21:04:55
Come on pull your finger out Woodie it's nearly 20 hours since the last signing what are you doing?

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13 Jul 2015 21:40:32
C'mon at least give Woody time to get to America before he has to rush off on urgent business again.

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13 Jul 2015 22:22:17
Missed you, Dodgy :)

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13 Jul 2015 23:26:57
Haha welcome back dodgy.

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14 Jul 2015 06:19:57
Why thank you sir Dodgy I feel thoroughly ticked off I shall now have a break from this site as I need to go somewhere dark and have a good cry.:)

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13 Jul 2015 20:40:29
Browsed this site for a couple of years now, finally decided to create an account and begin posting.

Very happy with the business we have done to date. It's nice to know our performances will not be resting on a 33 year old's shoulders this coming season.

Just to echo what everybody else seems to think, a striker and center back to come in for us to be challenging for things again.

I'd imagine we won't sign a stellar name up top as realistically Rooney will not be dropped and with the midfield signings we have made, it doesn't look like he will be dropping into the midfield anytime soon. I'd be happy with Enner Valencia or someone of that ilk to be honest (although I know he's one of the few we've not been linked with).

Center back is looking like Otamendi. Looks a decent player from what I have seen of him, could compliment Smalling nicely.

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13 Jul 2015 21:21:17
Good name

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13 Jul 2015 20:35:21
Saido berahino!! What do you guys think?
We've shown interest in the past, he's got rid of aidy ward and he's in the USA too!! He would be a great signing if his head is in the right place!

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13 Jul 2015 21:11:13
Are you looking for the pool site?

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13 Jul 2015 23:21:02
Think he would be a good signing happy to play second fiddle to Rooney and fast and a good finisher all day for me

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13 Jul 2015 20:27:58
Eds sometime ago one manchester journal said Bale was a done deal, is there any talk of new bids at all.
I know he was the presidents pick and Benitez says he wants to build a team around him but anything can happen

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{Ed007's Note - No.}

13 Jul 2015 19:53:54
Unless we can get Bale or Reus as replacement then I want ADM to stay. Don't want Gaitan or anyone else. Keep him if can't get one of the above for me

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13 Jul 2015 20:51:06
Bale, Reus, Muller, or Griezmann are the only players that I think are good enough to replace Di Maria. In any case I think we should sign another winger and another striker. Di Maria, Depay, and Bale all competing for the two spots on the wing would be lethal. Young, Valencia and Januzaj would then provide cover for the left wing, right wing, and both respectively. Januzaj can also compete with Mata and Herrera for an attacking midfield spot, since we could play Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, and Herrera in a flat midfield three, or Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin in a midfield two behind Mata or Januzaj.

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13 Jul 2015 21:08:32
Agreed Gilly although i'd add Isco to your list

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13 Jul 2015 22:27:25
I belive we will go all out for bale. But that will only happen at the expense of di Maria, If di Maria wants to stay and fight and produces his best then i'd be very happy with that, but if we can get bale then I think they will take a hit on di Maria sell for 45 and free up the wages for bale and I have said before I think it will happen we will sign bale and ddg will go at the same time all will be done in august post the Adidas launch and bale will be our new poster boy and captain along with depay

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13 Jul 2015 23:59:02
Think u all live in dreamworld with regards to bale!!! As someone with a slice of common sense explained benitez wants to build a team around him, perez loves him and the player himself wants to stay!!! So why do you think he's going to leave??? He's at the biggest branded team in the world, the team he supports. So why would he join united???

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13 Jul 2015 19:53:35
What do people make of our current goalkeeper situation.
Some were happy to give Valdés a go at claiming t,he no1 spot but he is not on tour and according to many reports looking to leave or to be sold. So with de gea still looking to leave who is most likely to come in as with Valdés going too we now have to Loris is out with a fractured wrist so perhaps oblak or claissen I would not be happy going onto the season with a non committed ddg and lindergard

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13 Jul 2015 20:39:35
i will keep valdes untill i m sure DDG not leaving .

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13 Jul 2015 20:53:35
I don't think De Gea's commitment is a concern. The European Championships are at the end of this season and De Gea would not want to damage his chances simply by being unprofessional.

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13 Jul 2015 23:14:27
Sorry just to be clear I don't doubt his professionalism but if your head is turned and you sign a pre contract for another club at Xmas then can't be our no 1 in my opinion

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13 Jul 2015 23:57:00
Cillessen is the only choice as far as I'm concerned.

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14 Jul 2015 00:39:57
Moon, what are your thoughts on Leno and Lopes?

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13 Jul 2015 19:40:57
Hi don't post often just like to put my input on the transfer window so far schweinsteiger , Morgan and depay are fantastic signings but don't know lot about darmian to have an opinion but his Italy's right back so can only be a good thing,right. With all this speculation about adm ,this might sound daft but he has come out and said he wants to play for man Utd, that might actually mean he wants to play for us next session ain't that a crazy ideal lol same can't be said to ddg. All we need now is a cb and striker and we will challenge for everything next season. And yes I am an glass half full person😊

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13 Jul 2015 19:05:50
Does everybody think we'll sign a new forward or does anyone think we'll stick with what we've got? If we play 433 then it's 3 positions for all the forwards that we have. That's Rooney, Wilson, depay, di Maria, Januzaj, pereira, young, mata and lingard. That's like 9 players to go into 3 positions. I don't know whether I can see us signing another one to be honest unless a couple go.
But who could we really get rid of out of them?
Rooney is our captain and one of our best players.
Wilson will be a great player in the future.
Di Maria although he had a bad season and didn't often play he still contributed to 14 goals and is proven to be class.
Depay is the new man and I honestly think he'll be a 15 goal a season player, he'll be key for us in the coming years.
Januzaj has got so much potential and will be one of the stars of our team for years to come in my opinion, he didn't play much last year but I think he'll get a lot more chances.
Pereira has just signed a new contract so it's obvious that Lvg must like him a bit and he had a great season for the under 21s and was brilliant for Brazil u21s.
Young was one of our best players last season, truly showed why we signed him last season.
Mata played great towards the end of last season and is already good for a few goals and assists.
And then you have lingard who is the least likely IMO to make it into the team but I feel he deserves a chance. He's been with us a long time and looked good on tour and always looks good on loan.
I can't see any of these players leaving. I think the only way we should sign a forward is if it was the be a player like muller or bale. True world class players rather than signing someone who will score a few goals but isn't much of an improvement to what we've got with regards to their overall effect on the team.

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13 Jul 2015 19:54:48
Stick unless di Maria leaves

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13 Jul 2015 20:36:45
I can see us going into the season with just Rooney and Wilson. Maybe splashing out in jan for a striker if things aren't going to plan.

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13 Jul 2015 19:04:08
Interviewer asked Basti - 'It must have been important for you join and work with LVG again at the club'

Basti 'Yes its nice to work with Louis again but it's more important that I come to play for Manchester United, this is what I always wanted - to play for this big club, it was always a dream'

I know its saying the right things but it's good to hear it anyway!

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13 Jul 2015 19:55:49
tbf to him he's always said similar about us, had a feeling he'd sign for us at some point. Always used to say how he was a fan as a child and how big of a club we are.

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13 Jul 2015 20:39:51
Anon, this was my point, they are expected to be a little gushing and its partly scripted, but he seemed more genuine - none of the biggest club in the world guff, more I wanted to play for United - its good Louis here, but its United I want to play for.

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13 Jul 2015 20:57:22
I seem to remember that every summer for the last five years or so Schweinsteiger has been linked with United at some point, and every time he has been linked, someone has mentioned that his brother is a big United fan. I wonder whether that story is myth or not, if indeed it is true, his brother encouraged Bastian to sign for United given that Pep prefers Alonso.

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13 Jul 2015 21:47:51
I think the brother bit is true Gilly.

A funny one sent in to MUTV:

Basti -

Your a new Manchester United player
Captain of German
World Cup Winner
8 times Bundersliga Champion
Champions League winner
Your girlfiend is Ana Ivanovic

So where Basti where did it all go wrong?

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13 Jul 2015 22:59:54
Theres a photo from over ten years ago which has come out today and both Bastian and his brother have united kits on.

I think the photo was taken in 2001/2002.

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13 Jul 2015 19:01:32
Does anyone know the reason why Valdes wasn't in the squad for the America Tour?

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13 Jul 2015 18:52:34
Well. Here it is guys, I have finally succumbed and changed my name! I'm delighted that we have finally bought decent midfielders that befit a club like United.
It has been a long time coming but I have been delighted by lvg summer signings so far. Hope we can get a good CB and a top striker.
If ADM still has a face on him then let's sell him and get a winger who wants to be here. Greizman, Rues, Bale will be nice.

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{Ed007's Note - That's got a nice ring to it mate - like a snobby German housing estate.}

13 Jul 2015 19:04:48
Love it mate 😁

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13 Jul 2015 19:56:34
Do I win a prize for suggesting the best name😈

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13 Jul 2015 20:16:31
Awesome. There was a while there when I really thought we were not going to get there. Well done LVG!!

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13 Jul 2015 20:23:53
No.1midfield was a much better suggestion, who ever suggested it is a genius in my eyes.

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13 Jul 2015 21:29:34
Perfect! Something else we had Woodward to thank for

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13 Jul 2015 23:32:27
Wow wow wow Ken, I suggested this name last night!

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14 Jul 2015 01:14:04
i was hoping for 'promidfield' ;)

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15 Jul 2015 08:13:13
GDS and Ken. Thank you both for the great name suggestion. You can say your two "great" minds think alike!!
I'm glad to be rid of the Nomidfield name.
Onwards and upwards for United.

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13 Jul 2015 18:42:08
Well I doubt we'll be going after Hugo Lloris as he has a fractured wrist and will miss the start of the season.

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13 Jul 2015 19:34:45
Is it fractured though?

Could it be an "schneiderlin is ill" thing?

Maybe he is negotiating with us.

Wishful thinking I know but you never know

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13 Jul 2015 20:39:29
Could be Sterlingitis

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13 Jul 2015 18:29:42
Paddy coming up on MUTV - he will be more giddy than any of us!

Intro for Basti and Morgan straight after.

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13 Jul 2015 18:27:05
Does anyone else find it funny how Bayern said
"No more players will be signing for Man Utd, THIS summer?"
Obviously, I could be reading into it to much, or maybe the actual sentence has been fleshed out a bit. However, generally speaking people would just say "No other players will be sold to Man Utd" so maybe Mueller is a possibility in the future? but just not this summer.

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13 Jul 2015 19:56:54
Yes you are reading too much into it. They're not going to say "no more players will sign for United for the next 5 years" lol. Who knows the future? As Mr Ronaldo loves to quote

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13 Jul 2015 17:28:54
Quick question for you all, just leave an agree or disagree or reply if you've got anything to add.
Would you take a straight swap of Di Maria for Cavani?
Personally I'm warming to cavani, he seems the only world class forward that's realistic and he scored 30 goals last season from mostly a wide position.

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13 Jul 2015 17:45:26
I would ask for Cavani + 10mp. But yes i would take Cavani.

Mainly because we are in need of a striker and Mata and Young have had better seasons than ADM (I know it was his first season) so dropping them just because of ADMs reputation is not correct.

We also need to give time to Depay and Januzaj who are both wide players.

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13 Jul 2015 17:51:25
I think it will be up to ADM. If he wants to leave and we can get a top class player like Cavani plus some cash it would be a good deal. No point in keeping an underperforming player who doesn't want to be here.

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13 Jul 2015 18:02:52
Looking back at ADM time at RM he was very hit and miss, but despite him not having a great season, he still managed to score a few goals and provide a lot of assists. A lot will depend on whether or not ADM wants to stay. Even LVG said this a couple of months ago. But with the FFP rules being relaxed for PSG we might be able to get a good price for him. I'd give him another season

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13 Jul 2015 18:35:11
Adm is going nowhere he will be up there for our player of the season next may.

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13 Jul 2015 18:48:48
Talk in the paper is saying we are willing to take 40 mill for ADM doesn't make sense if psg are desperate for him and we don't want to sell then surely we should be at least getting our money back especially when they are free of FFP now why do we always take losses on players when Chelsea always make profit on theirs

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13 Jul 2015 17:27:47
So Cavani-ADM swap being rumoured.

I would take it only if they offer Cavani + 10mp at least.

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13 Jul 2015 17:47:01
Only with £20m coming our way at the very least!

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13 Jul 2015 17:57:02
If psg are willing to offer 50 mill for him then sell him and buy reus and Charlie Austin as back up to Rooney if we were looking at buying ings then Austin should be considered he's better than ings

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13 Jul 2015 17:13:34
Apparently, now, PSG and BAYERN want Di Maria, could mean either Muller or Cavani swap? Would Bayern be prepared to part with Muller? We SHALL SEE!

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13 Jul 2015 17:47:33
i'd do a straight swap to get muller, no cash required either way.

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13 Jul 2015 18:14:40
I'd straight swap with Lewandowski.

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13 Jul 2015 19:58:26
Agree straight swap with both the above.

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13 Jul 2015 16:12:15
I guess our salary bill is in credit given the departure of Falcao, RVP and possibly ADM and Hernandez. Probably room in the budget for a top class CB and Striker. I suspect a deal with Real Madrid is still possible even though both Ramos and Benzemar have gone on the tour to Australia. It's not over yet.

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13 Jul 2015 16:45:44
U forgot Nani

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mbd              

13 Jul 2015 18:15:23
Not hard to do

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13 Jul 2015 16:02:18
Question for any of the Eds;
Seemingly United have done their business this summer quite under the radar I was just wondering if you guys have found it more difficult than usual finding any info on Uniteds targets and movements?
Thanks.

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{Ed007's Note - No.}

13 Jul 2015 17:44:08
Fair enough Bond ha quick and straight to the point, I like it.

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13 Jul 2015 16:01:27
Valdes not on the tour, is he moving on?

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13 Jul 2015 15:55:12
Please lads have a look on looserpool banter page according to them they have a far superiour side and we are now trying to buy the league to ers

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13 Jul 2015 16:43:33
Take no notice. Usually when opposition fans are talking about United it is either because we have jut lost a game , or because they are worried. It is the later at the moment.
Remember this is the team that saw Rickie Lambert as an adequate replacement for Suarez.
They have even been ridiculing our latest signings.
Most of that lot wouldn't know the difference between your Schweinsteigers and your Curtis Stigers.

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13 Jul 2015 17:05:04
Had a discussion today with a Liverpool fan who said we are just trying to 'buy it', and I explained our money is from a very similar place to them, we make money from sponsorship, tv rights and fans and then some of that goes on players, they more you make the more can go on players, and that is what Liverpool do. Neither are funded by an oil baron, we just have more money to spend and that is why we spend more, they don't seem to realise that.

They are at the peak of the boom, give them until September at least.

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13 Jul 2015 17:18:00
I'll judge over the course of the season but so many pool fans are already saying firmino is better than Depay. On what grounds do they base this on? Laughable really. I bet LVG is gutted we missed out on Milner instead we got stuck with Schweiny and Schneiderlin.

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13 Jul 2015 15:20:22
Do any of the Eds know why Valdes isn't in the tour squad? He's been linked with Antalyaspor but his agent has spoken up and ruled it out. Any info? Thanks

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{Ed007's Note - I don't know why but unless he's carrying an injury it doesn't bode well for his future imo.}

13 Jul 2015 15:57:41
Bond,
Going by your logic, and I am not saying you're right or wrong, surely it would look good for De Gea staying? or just me being hopeful?
Thanks

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13 Jul 2015 17:07:14
Monkeyballs,

That is some very twisted logic, there is a different between a player going on a tour who may leave and a player missing a full tour who is expecting to stay.

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13 Jul 2015 18:11:50
Haha yeah, I know I was clutching at straws. It was kinda tongue-in-cheek, GDS2.
On a serious note, I think most, if not all the links between players moving/leaving and being on/off teamsheets is all BS (not Bastian) as the tours are only about a fortnight and the windows open for another month and a half. Which, unfortunately, is probably how long the De Gea saga will play out with him ending up at Madrid. Though i'm still hoping he'll stay.
TBH, I'm not writing anything off until the window closes.

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13 Jul 2015 18:12:32
Haha yeah, I know I was clutching at straws. It was kinda tongue-in-cheek, GDS2.
On a serious note, I think most, if not all the links between players moving/leaving and being on/off teamsheets is all BS (not Bastian) as the tours are only about a fortnight and the windows open for another month and a half. Which, unfortunately, is probably how long the De Gea saga will play out with him ending up at Madrid. Though i'm still hoping he'll stay.
TBH, I'm not writing anything off until the window closes.

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13 Jul 2015 15:11:49
Sorry if it's been covered but just seen squad for the tour and didn't see adm name is there a reason for it. having extra time off or on his way out.thanks

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13 Jul 2015 15:25:51
I completely missed it, just had a look on a number of media outlets and not one says he is going with the squad.

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13 Jul 2015 15:26:48
He is Injured for a Month.

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13 Jul 2015 15:37:39
He got injured and will be out for a month.

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13 Jul 2015 15:40:10
Holiday after the Copa America mark.

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13 Jul 2015 15:46:21
ADM is on a break after the Copa. I wouldn't read into it

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13 Jul 2015 15:51:22
Rojo is also absent as they have both been given extra leave after competing in the Copa America.

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13 Jul 2015 17:07:54
Otamendi transfer has been delayed for the exact same reason, they will all join up after their break ;)

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13 Jul 2015 15:09:26
Afternoon. Well after the excitement of yesterday and today's events, I have composed myself and thought about the team for next season. It is the general thought that we need a CB and Striker to complete and amazing transfer window and put us in an extremely strong position to compete on all fronts next season. CB for me and I expect everyone else is a no brainer and I am sure we will strengthen there. However, I am wondering if LVG will look to do with Depay what Wenger did with Henry? He has hinted that he can also play through the middle so could this mean a strike force of Rooney, Depay and Wilson with ADM, Mata, Young, Januzaj and potentially Pereira as the wide players in a 4-3-3. I am still hopeful that we will look to bring in another striker but I can't see any top strikers wanting to be a support striker for Rooney so potentially we go for a prospect or LVG goes with Depay through the middle?

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13 Jul 2015 15:17:07
I agree ports; I think he will use Depay as a striker for certain games next season, especially if we don't sign another CF.
I think Depay could be lethal up-front. He has all the attributes needed.

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13 Jul 2015 15:38:47
I agree ports I've said similar myself. Rooney will be the striker so I don't see benzema, Cavani, higuain etc. being on the bench or being played out of position. The two that fit the bill now for me is Mitrovic or Kane, both would accept a role of rotation and eventually replacing Rooney. I can see us tho having a strike force of Rooney, Wilson with depay and fellaini filling in and going for Kane and Bale next season.
I'm still buzzing off our MF signings on this plane to the US. What a couple days.

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13 Jul 2015 17:32:02
Wenger done the same with a certain 'Henry',
That turned out alright

😉😉😉😉

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13 Jul 2015 14:35:53
Since SAF left and we've been a way off winning trophies our rival fans have been quite complimentary about us BUT you know your team is feared when our rival fans start talking more and more about us and say they are worried or even more obvious brush us off and try to find other weak areas to attack, looking over at other teams sites I can see that our fear factor may be returning! Bring on the jibes and insults I say, I'd rather it was us v them again.

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13 Jul 2015 17:16:24
Fergie's not left, he's been working in his shed making a virus to sell Madrid - apparently he's asked De Gea if he wouldn't mind passing it on!

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13 Jul 2015 14:22:52
So we now have a excellent SCHmidfield, world class cb and st and we are good to go

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13 Jul 2015 14:45:48
SCHneiderlin + SCHweinsteiger = SCHoles replacement
😁

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13 Jul 2015 14:18:56
Delighted with the business we have done so far but we do still need a CB and striker. I'm going to put forward a few names of strikers who would likely accept a back up role to Rooney but I believe would be a good piece of business. These players have not been linked to us and in my opinion they won't be signing but just thought I'd do this to get a few opinions. I would have put Luiz Adriano on this list but he's off to Milan.

Loic Remy, he showed at Newcastle that if he starts he's likely to get a goal and has been good cover at Chelsea. They appear happy to let him leave and I feel he could do a good job for us.

Arkadiusz Milik (Excuse the spelling) he's only 20/21 and was good at Ajax last year. He's quick but he's over 6 foot as well and shown he can be physical. He could grow into a good player over the next couple of years.

Saul Niguez, young striker who has looked like a real prospect at Atletico. He is very quick but also pretty skilful. Again he's a player who could develop and become very good.

I'd be interested in your opinions.

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13 Jul 2015 14:38:22
Lacazette for me, put him on the right wing for a year plus is top class as a striker. This does assume Rooney will be the main man.

Mitrovic would also be excellent although a different type of player

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13 Jul 2015 14:49:46
Saul Niguez is more of AM, but as I've mentioned in previous posts, wide players who can Score GOALS are more effective as you get the best of both? Ronaldo was a prime example of this! Primary position - winger, but could also score valuable goals? that's the type of player we should look at? Create AND score goals? Depay I'm hoping BE one of these players?

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13 Jul 2015 14:06:55
I am over the moon with or signings. We now have a genuine world class midfield that will be able to compete against the best.

Just goes to show having a world class manager with connections in the game, goes a long.

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13 Jul 2015 14:11:54
sam,

Nothing to do with LVG, he is a dinosaur, his methods are archaic and we will never win anything while he is in charge.

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13 Jul 2015 14:16:33
To be fair Sam the only one that may have not been possible without LVG is bastian, other than that your signings aren't really because of your manager but just your club

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13 Jul 2015 14:41:30
51896, I think his intervention/ phone call to a certain Dutch player by the name of Depay might just have been a factor in our new winger signing for us. Pretty sure Depay has said that LVG was a big reason for him signing.

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13 Jul 2015 15:09:38
He did, Huggy. Depay was apparently set to join PSG before the manager intervened.

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13 Jul 2015 16:17:36
Some player have clearly signed because of the pull of the manager, fair enough. I wonder how many have said "no" because of the manager?!

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13 Jul 2015 16:32:41
Lol gds nice post!

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13 Jul 2015 17:35:48
You would wonder that wouldn't you, Beast 😊

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13 Jul 2015 18:41:24
I'd say ings had an issue with lvg and we lost out.

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13 Jul 2015 14:03:19
Is there a reason Valdes isn't named in the Tour squad ?

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13 Jul 2015 15:09:56
Is he injured?

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13 Jul 2015 13:57:09
Neither rafael or valdes are on the tour, Rafael I understand but strange with Valdes, maybe he is to be back up and we'll give the experience to Johnstone.

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13 Jul 2015 14:24:35
Maybe ddg is staying and lindegaard will be back up, the rumours of valdes going to Turkey I think it was might be true

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13 Jul 2015 16:25:11
The official squad release is listed without Valdes - but maybe (and with all due respect to Valdes and the posters above - sorry lads), I think what could be more interesting and a clue for short term futures, is that ADM is included in the images/marketing for the tour.

He's injured/having an extra-break post Copa America, so won't be playing but interesting that we have used his image. I know pre-season squads will not define first elevens or even squad inclusions come the start of the season, but BS/MS/DM/MD are all include, so this was written or amended over the weekend. The key point being it was an ideal opportunity to drop a name and or an image, IE Di Maria if he was likely to exit to PSG. let's hope this means something.

Further non United pre-season update - one key piece of news is Madrid have now named Ramos the official club captain now Casilla's has gone. So we can probably park any thoughts of Ramos now and assume Otamendi will be linking with ADM and Rojo at United soon.

I read a crap article earlier - this is a bit of a whinge.

'De Gea may be upset at being included in the squad'.

The same article stated that Madrid are yet to make an official bid. Have I lost the plot then - there is no bid - no transfer request has ever been submitted and a valid contract exist. So why wouldn't he be going on tour? - lazy feckin journalism - the cheeky sods wanted you to vote on the article too!

The longer Madrid leave it then the more likely we will keep De Gea - even if only for one more year.

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13 Jul 2015 13:42:36
interesting on the arsenal page someone asked

"Ed, with Morgan Schneiderlin signing for Man U, do you expect Arsenal to sign a défensive midfielder?"

{Ed007's Note - Utd might listen to offers for Carrick.}

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13 Jul 2015 13:57:21
Bond, you'll have to put sarcasm disclaimers on posts from now on.

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{Ed007's Note - Then it wouldn't be as much fun :=D

13 Jul 2015 14:09:31
Ed007 surely not? I certainly hope not.

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13 Jul 2015 16:35:55
I think Danny's called this right above - sarcasm does sometimes gets missed.

Carrick and Pasty (Basti), are essentially doing a job share until one or the other is completely knackered - its like they cover each other whilst one goes of on maternity leave or they have a hair appointment! (Sarcasm again!)

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13 Jul 2015 13:38:32
Wilkommen Basti!.

3 year deal confirmed.

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13 Jul 2015 13:15:47
So it seems De Gea will be going on tour, and we have to look at the situation we're in that we call the shots. Especially with Casilas now gone from Madrid, we can affective let call shots and make the demands. If we lose one of our stats to them then take one back. Wether that's Ramos, Benzema or ever Bale. We can now say if we don't get one in return no deal. Simple as that. In 12 months time he may walk for free. But who knows what can happen in that time. He may realise he actually wants to stay and pens a new deal. Anything can happen! Let's continue to play Madrid like the so often do everyone else

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13 Jul 2015 13:38:47
His girlfriend might not want to stay in england for another year. so let him stay and maybe she will leave him =)

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13 Jul 2015 14:07:33
JK92 , you devil ruining someone's love life for your own motives. That being said its a nice idea ;)

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13 Jul 2015 15:57:11
Ill swap her for my missus .Mine can't sing, wash up ,and is a Malaga fan i live in Spain though so that should close the deal

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13 Jul 2015 16:39:12
JK92 is spot on - I am sure he can pick up a half decent Manc chick who won't show him up on Eurovision!

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13 Jul 2015 12:57:32
What a great Monday it is, so pleased i decided to wake up today.
One of my favourite all times players in Basti and Morgan thrown in to boot :-) could'nt be happier right now.
Lets av it.

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13 Jul 2015 13:16:45
Herbie are you going banana's

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13 Jul 2015 13:36:55
No man, i'm just chilling n smiling.
:-D

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13 Jul 2015 13:45:53
im with you herbie bring on the bastian pig(schwine)commander(steiger). what a signing. never thought it would happen unless SAF was still in charge.

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13 Jul 2015 14:47:19
As far as I know only minions go "BANANA".

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13 Jul 2015 12:51:43
No pie in the sky:

What underpins the almost universal feeling of optimism in these pages is the sense that the manager has fully realized the shortcomings in the squad and identified affordable and achievable transfer targets to resolve the areas of weakness. And the club has acted upon them with aplomb. As LVG has stated, United is not in the market to buy just for the sake of it. Each acquisition has to improve the squad. The 4 new players, if they play to their potential will unarguably do that. The transfers do not have an aura of excessively expensive panic buys like Mata, Fellani and Di Maria.

In this respect, can we be sure Otamendi will improve us? Look at how the much hyped Mangala has done at City. At best one can say he's taken the first year to settle. Defending requires experience and understanding, and, as long as they can avoid another injury plagued year, we may find Smalling and Jones/Rojo will be the most successful combination in the upcoming season. Whether we buy or not, remember, Evra and Vidic were not immediate successes. In my opinion our new midfield options will make our defence stronger and that, in turn, puts us in a much better negotiating position with the selling club because they will understand we don't have to buy.

With respect to the lack of completed activity in our main rivals, it should be remembered that they are all sufficiently settled to now be fine tuning, rather than undergoing major overhauls, like us. From hereon in though, I think we too are going to be in the same boat. We now have a great squad. A CF and/or a CB - if one comes along at the right price - would be great, but again, no need to panic. Blooding youngsters now becomes a genuine alternative.

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13 Jul 2015 16:56:26
Spot on Shawthing.

Otamendi would be the Bruce to the Pallister in the defensive equation.

I think he would be an upgrade and he would certainly add a bit more bite and aggression.

Staying with your theme of the right player for the right reasons and at reasonable price though. we do need a dominant leader who is also a ball player and able to bring the ball out fro the back. Ideally he would also be sufficiently aggressive - sadly though that fella is staying at Dortmund for at least one more year. Yes he lacks pace, but there are few complete players and Hummel's ticks the most boxes and sadly we delayed - I suspect this was down to the Ramos interest.

All that said I like Otamendi and he is a Stam/Bruce/Vidic type and they weren't half bad!

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13 Jul 2015 12:44:33
Intrigued to see guys opinions on here, I think I know which way this one will go.

LIKE for £25 million for Memphis.

DISLIKE for £49 million for Sterling.

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13 Jul 2015 13:23:50
It would be interesting to see what city fans actually thought about the sterling signing, shame there aren't any of them

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13 Jul 2015 13:25:34
I pressed disagree just for fun.

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13 Jul 2015 13:35:07
Oh dear. This is like being in nursery.
😕

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13 Jul 2015 14:44:59
Do city even have a page ?? I cannot think of a single occasion I have ever seen a city fan on here having banter.

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13 Jul 2015 12:34:43
Considering the fact that we have signed very powerful Mid-fielder's in schneiderlin and Bastian does anyone think that our current CBS can
play better with a better Midfield outfit in front of them?? It does happen that when we have a very stable and strong CMS/CDMS the CBS need to work
less and are put under less pressure.Also the set pieces will be sorted as we have added more height to the team.

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13 Jul 2015 12:54:08
We still need a top quality cb. As Giggs said a few weeks ago, they're looking to reinforce the spine of the team: cb, cm and striker. Obviously the defence will greatly benefit from our midfield signings, but if we want to compete against the best we will need a top quality cb too.

I think we will see a new cb a striker come in, with Evans, Rafael, and one of Di Maria or Mata leaving.

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13 Jul 2015 13:46:20
we should still go for hummels

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13 Jul 2015 15:35:17
Adding these in mean we can get away with 1 CB addition. Although if both Ramos and Otemandi came in i would be extatic

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13 Jul 2015 12:11:40
De Gea will be on the plane for our pre-season tour of the USA and WILL NOT be joining Real Madrid unless we get Sergio Ramos as part of the deal.

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13 Jul 2015 12:43:01
I hope these reports are true. Great to see us being the senior party.

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13 Jul 2015 11:52:17
Sergio Ramos named new Real Madrid Captain. If this true that rules out any potential deal for him.

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13 Jul 2015 12:43:34
They wouldn't do that if he was leaving. Let's bring in Otamendi, keep De Gea and move on!

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13 Jul 2015 12:51:22
Gutted

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13 Jul 2015 12:53:08
Not really .It depends on how bad they want DDG .Just because he is capt he may still want to go himself -players rule in football now

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13 Jul 2015 13:37:54
Ramos was NEVER going to happen.
😴
But Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin were always in the bag
😎😍

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13 Jul 2015 11:35:37
It's good to see we've not been made to pay silly money yet! 24million for shniederlin (if true) is excellent business considering they wanted 30! Crazy to think he played in league 1 with Southampton to get to where he has now! Wonder if a CB would come in today?

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13 Jul 2015 14:02:16
It's got to the point after this great weekend that it is an anti climax if we don't sign a player every night form now on lol. Bring in a world class CB and cover striker keep ADM and I'm happy excellent midfield and hope LVG let's Rooney, ADM and Depay run riot up top

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13 Jul 2015 11:27:08
What a great weekend! We have a very strong midfield that will dominate possession and press very hard on the ball. This will really help the defence and attack out considerably.

I really hope we bring in a right winger who can grab goals. Muller/Lacazette would be my first choices although Domenico Berardi would be an excellent addition, I think I'm right in saying that he's the highest scoring right winger in the top 5 European leagues.

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13 Jul 2015 12:18:55
Agreed Rewz, Domenico Berardi is awesome seen only on TV like but looks top draw, looks like a player who would easily fit into LVG's plans! Good age aswell!

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13 Jul 2015 13:08:12
I think we will still struggle to get goals even if we dominate possession. We need a clinical finisher who can create space surrounded by defenders and bang in any half chance. Teams will just defend deep against U.S. and try to catch us on the break - hence need for top quality defence

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13 Jul 2015 11:25:38
English and Spanish press reporting that the deal for De Gea must be done today or he will be coming on tour and we will not release him.

Good to see us playing the part of the senior party with Real Madrid rather than being told what to do.

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13 Jul 2015 11:11:44
So, are we winning the league or what!?!

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mbd              

13 Jul 2015 10:59:03
With Ed at the helm nothing is imposdible!

Every player has a price.

Peter schmeichael tweeted from bayerns dressing room a while back pointing at both basti and muellers shirts!

Maybe he's footballs very own mystic meg

We shall wait and see.

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13 Jul 2015 10:46:07
Well you've got to hand it too LVG and Ed. A handful of us said don't panic, we will get signings in but even I didn't imagine we'd see what we're seeing in this fashion. Only 2 weeks into the window and our first team has drastically improved. About a month and a half now to add a centre back, a striker and to resolve the de Gea situation. I think Otamendi could be done, Valdes may be our number 1 and then another forward but who? I think di Maria will stay so a centre forward will be chased, Harry Kane I think fits the bill, or if di Maria does go to PSG then Gareth Bale.
As someone mentioned earlier out more creative and flair players like ADM, Herrera, Depay, Mata will be able to flourish without the worry of if our MF and DEF can handle an attack, cz BS, MS and Carrick will be controlling that midfield.

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13 Jul 2015 11:28:27
The midfield is sorted, we have a new right back and an exciting young winger. Everything we needed has already happened apart from a centre back which must be soon.

The question marks now are which forward do we buy? I'm going to nail my post to the mast and say Cavani (I hope the deal doesn't involve Di Maria though).

And lastly what is the resolution to the De Gea saga. Two big questions to ask, but I trust in Ed (never thought I'd say that).

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13 Jul 2015 14:52:42
The little leprechaun has delivered a pot of gold. I eat humble pie Mr Woodward and LVG. Good job getting most signing in before the tour so we are ready for the champions league qualifiers and the start of the premiership.

More of the same in terms of a CB, a striker and a GK if Spanish Dave heads home.

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13 Jul 2015 10:45:56
United have told Madrid they have 24 hrs to get the DDG deal done or he stays at United.

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13 Jul 2015 11:38:17
Has to be some movement befor 2.30pm today.

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13 Jul 2015 10:39:12
4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1
With another CB coming in which you guys think will be our strongest 11 with all our new additions?

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13 Jul 2015 10:55:24
------------------DDG-------------------
Darmian--Smalling--Otamendi--Shaw
-------------Sweinsteiger---------------
------Herrera-----------Morgan---------
--ADM---------Rooney---------Depay--

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13 Jul 2015 11:29:23
Totally agree redarmy. Carrick and Schweinsteiger will share that deep role and Young will rotate in and out the side with Di Maria and Depay.

This could of course change if we sign a new striker!

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13 Jul 2015 11:37:01
Where does Mata fit?

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13 Jul 2015 11:51:42
Think mata will interchange with depay.
Mata will imo start most games with depay on as a sub. Mata can also play in that central 3 further up

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13 Jul 2015 14:06:27
Gor me Mata cannot be used out wide we need pace and movement Mata doesn't suit that role he can alternate just behind the striker. We will need a big squad to compete on all fronts and for the first time this decad we have quality and quantity now

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13 Jul 2015 10:35:59
Nomidield , another suggestion for your new user name.
Not sure if you are familiar with the Wayne's World film , but I think "SCHWING" would be fitting.

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13 Jul 2015 12:48:56
Could just add a . and a 1 to make it 'No.1midfield'

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13 Jul 2015 13:40:09
Newmidfield 😕

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13 Jul 2015 14:54:47
Love it Betty, our recent transfer activity has given me a showing moment or two.

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13 Jul 2015 10:32:01
Think Cavani will be the striker we go all out for now, we have zero chance of getting Muller and Benzema.

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13 Jul 2015 10:44:05
Aren't there are more than 3 strikers in football? :P

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mbd              

13 Jul 2015 10:58:13
Yes there is more than 3 strikers in football but like LVG said we won't buy for the sake of it, in my opinion Benteke, Austin and a few others people have mentioned won't improve our team, i believe Cavani would.

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13 Jul 2015 12:48:57
I don't rate Cavani. Don't you believe Mitrovic, Kane or Domenico Berardi will improve our team?

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mbd              

13 Jul 2015 13:22:13
Mitrovic is going to Newcastle i think, Kane would cost us as much as Sterling and he has only had one good season, not seen Beradi so can't comment on him.

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13 Jul 2015 15:07:35
Ok, I get u. :)

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mbd              

13 Jul 2015 10:25:16
With the imminent signing of Schneiderlin can we now say that we have gone from quite a poor midfield to one of the best? A midfield 3 of Carrick/Schweinsteiger holding with Herrera and Schneiderlin ahead is fantastic - bags of quality in that midfield three and we also have the likes of Fellaini, Mata and Pereira who can come in and influence games.

Put it this way, we have replaced Cleverley, Anderson and Fletcher with Herrera, Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger in the last couple of years - outstanding transformation in my book.

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13 Jul 2015 11:21:19
Would it not be carrick and Schneiderlin holding with hererra and schweinsteiger ahead?

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13 Jul 2015 10:16:28
Unbelievable transfer window thus far. Think we need to be doffing our cap to Woodward. Fairly inevitable that DDG will go and whomever replaces him will have an extra £5m tagged on their true price just because it's us and the situation but think the 'you want De Gea / we want Ramos' is a master stroke even if it don't come off.

And it ain't over yet .

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13 Jul 2015 10:24:50
Its about time we didn't let Madrid get what they want, we don't need to sell but they need to buy, we are the ones in control of what happens.

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13 Jul 2015 10:26:43
The replacement will probably cost close to what we get for him. Probably Oblak.

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13 Jul 2015 13:06:42
As much as I LOVE De Gea, it's quite obvious he wants to go back to Madrid? Therefore, we have to go for Oblak! I think we have already tested the water with a £20m bid which was immediately rejected? After seeing what's happened to De Gea, Atleti aren't going to let a top class young keeper leave cheap again? ( what I mean in comparison to what he's sold for now to when we bought him ) he's worth a lot more!

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13 Jul 2015 19:00:42
Swap de gea with oblak and stuff real.

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13 Jul 2015 10:13:03
So it looks like its been a very busy weekend which no one can complain about.

So now we look at centre back, and I've put 2 and 2 together and maybe I've come out with 4 or maybe(and more likely) I've come up with 256.

But here goes, We have shown a strong interest in Otamendi but are reluctant to pay the 35m buy out clause value.
So have we agreed a deal with Real Madrid where we manipulate the media with a seeming which to Ramos in order to force Valencia into accepting a lower fee for Otamendi. In return we agree to a smaller fee for DDG maybe. Real have refused to bid for Otamendi as they feel he is United bound. When has that ever stopped Real Madrid before? If they want a player they go a buy them regardless of who else is interested in them. With Real not bidding it means Valencia only have one team to sell a seemingly unhappy player who wants to leave. This should force them to accept a lower fee.

I know people will question the point in all this but it is all about perception. If we sign Otamendi for around 25m then that's a very good deal and puts less pressure on the player. Like wise if we sell DDG for 25m then that is also a very good deal for a player who has one year left on his contract. Thus we get a good deal all round.

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13 Jul 2015 10:27:46
Good logic, but I think Sergio Ramos is the one we want and we won't sign Otamendi until that boat has sailed.

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13 Jul 2015 10:28:35
this could be a case for mulder and scully lol

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13 Jul 2015 10:33:29
I see your logic Shappy. I am just not sure our relationship with Real is that good to enter into this sort of process. Also, it is a risk as it is not exactly helping Ramos in the eyes of the media.
I would not be surprised if certain people at Real actually want rid of Ramos due to his part in the Mourinho debacle, Casillas has gone who was another part in that. They may actually have eyes on another CB, maybe Laporte from Bilbao to play alongside Verrane. Or they are just being like us. very quiet on who they want and Otemandi is actually an option.

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13 Jul 2015 11:16:18
i believe we'll see a left footed CB come in

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13 Jul 2015 13:36:27
Valencia have no need to sell they've sorted there finances there stadium is finished and are building for the future and have money to spend if were signing ottamendi were paying his buyout clause.

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13 Jul 2015 10:00:26
Looking at who we have brought in, are we better suited to 433 or 4231?

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13 Jul 2015 10:18:38
Formations are a funny thing 433/4231/451 are only very slight variations of each other and each team would make those tweaks depending on who the opposition is and who we have available at the time.

I could see Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin and Herrera as our first choice midfield. Now they could play any of the above formations.

With Schweinsteiger as the base midfielder you can then have Schneiderlin and Herrera either both playing as box to box players or have Schneiderlin along side Schweinsteiger and Herrera more as a No.10.

These signings have not only added quality to our team but also flexibility. That's why its so mouth watering.

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13 Jul 2015 10:28:01
So far, 4-3-3.

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13 Jul 2015 10:53:41
Shappy where does that leave Carrick?

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13 Jul 2015 11:52:55
On the Bench :p. sorry wasn't asked to me but couldn't resist ;)

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13 Jul 2015 12:59:19
Carrick to be faded out over time and share the workload in the mean time.

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13 Jul 2015 13:00:49
Carrick will rotate with Schweinsteiger but slowly be phased out. He turns 34 soon, and although he could go on for another couple of years the injuries are starting to take effect.

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13 Jul 2015 09:26:06
Remember one or two people on this page said a few days back that we had 3 medicals booked in before Monday, I thought no chance but fair play to whoever that was!

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13 Jul 2015 09:51:30
My source was spot on .I dowted him I've already spoke to him and he said massive signing to a PL team early this week stressing MASSIVE

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13 Jul 2015 09:52:50
Liking the Avatar.ED the wolf 😆😆

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13 Jul 2015 09:59:08
Agreed. Imagine how long ago we would have known had Ed002 been around? I have missed his insights but the other Eds are doing a cracking job (Top work guys!) and I can't imagine I would have woken up in such a state of excited shock as I have done on this, what should have been, gloomy Monday.

Happy Days

GGMU

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13 Jul 2015 09:07:21
what a transfer window, definitely one of the best. we have signed one of my all time favorite players in bastian. a fantastic prospect in deepay. a vvery solid player in morgan. a full back whom i believe will be one of the signings of the season in darmian. now a CB and a striker and we will push for the league. looking forward to this season.

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13 Jul 2015 10:31:10
Otamendi and Cavani is my guess. My worry though is that Di Maria replaces Cavani.

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13 Jul 2015 13:38:01
is cavani that good. di maria won't be sold as i think he still has that "it" factor. he can change a game with one bit of play and is likely to do so.

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13 Jul 2015 08:44:30
I posted a comment a while back about height. 3/4 new players on that plane Are above or about 6ft .

I trust lvg has realised the prem you need that power

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13 Jul 2015 09:00:26
Seems that way. The balance in our squad in terms of age, experience and now physical attributes is improving.

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13 Jul 2015 09:29:35
It's always good to have a bit of size in the team.And a little of topic its the first time in years I have read the whole way down the page and haven't seen something I read yesterday

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13 Jul 2015 08:33:12
Presumably those who were concerned about the lack of transfer activity have now been placated.

On another note, Schneiderlin ? 2 years ago it was Scheider in !!

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13 Jul 2015 09:01:39
What a weekend for us! So excited for the tour now I honestly think we are a cb and forward off challenging, Chelsea look like they won't be strengthening significantly unless they can somehow pull off a huge signing.
Sir Ed Woodward!

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13 Jul 2015 09:02:19
We should have Sean Connery commentating on our games Schhhhh

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13 Jul 2015 08:23:38
Just wanted to come over and say that schneiderlin is a fantastic signing for you. Wasn't and am'nt convinced that schweinsteiger was necessary or will cut it at this stage (but we'll see) but in Herrera and Schneiderlin you have a really good midfield duo for years to come whoever plays along side them.

I do have one question though. talking to man u fans I know they seem to be putting a lot of pressure on depay expecting him to set the league a light. Now I study in Holland so was there last year and saw him live a couple times and a lot on the telly and he is a truly incredible talent but I don't think you could rely on him and think you definitely need another big striker/attacking player to take some pressure off him. I definitely do not think he will be ready to play as a striker in the premier league yet either. doesn't have the intelligence in his movement but that should come. But my question basically is what do you expect of him? I think if you play him out wide and ease him into being a key player (if that makes sense) you will see a solid first season with 5-10 goals and assists but it will benefit him a lot more going forward I feel.

I'm here in peace by the way not looking to be ripped apart!

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13 Jul 2015 08:52:02
i expect him not to be scared to take on a player and to be able to go past a man. 10 goals and ten assists would be good. i expect him to play on the left as an inside forward cutting in and possibly switching flanks on the fly.

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13 Jul 2015 09:03:47
For me I just want him to play without fear, if he takes people on he has the talent and pace to rip teams apart and his final product looks decent as well. If he contributes to 10-20 goals this season I'll be made up

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13 Jul 2015 09:05:16
I'm expecting Depay to offer something this season but not to see the best of him for at least 18months. I'm not banking on him reaching the same level as Hazard but I'd like to see a similar rate of progression that Hazard showed since leaving France.

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13 Jul 2015 09:15:05


I think Schweinsteiger will cut it, did you think Gerrard couldn't cut it when he got to 30? I think Schweinsteiger is arguably a better talent, has won more and in my opinion was always a player that would stay at Bayern like Giggs and United and Gerrard at Liverpool (oh wait), so I am delighted that he has signed.

The part about Depay I agree with mate, I think he is a huge talent but needs to be managed correctly, he is a winger and best used going at players so may be used sparingly as a striker but we need another striker signed so that he does not have to play that role very often. Ashley Young was one of our best players last year remember, with a top centre half and a striker we would have 2 great options in all positions, something we certainly haven't had for about 5 years.

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13 Jul 2015 12:08:13
Hey ShaneK, Fair post. We are all excited to have a really good midfield after long. More importantly, they have different strengths to complement each other.

Considering that it is depay's first season in england, a goal + assist tally of 15(+) should be a good one.

Schweini. Apart from his experience which will be great for our team and youngsters, I believe he will make depay, rooney, ADM immensely effective in the counterattacks with long looping accurate passes on the break. Though, He has had some medical issues in prev seasons. So, hoping LVG manages him well.

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13 Jul 2015 08:21:21
Hats off to our dear Mr Woody for pulling this off in such short time. Now he should go all out and find De Gea a girlfriend based in Manchester.

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13 Jul 2015 08:10:43
Gaurdian reporting PSG bids 47m for di maria. Sould we sell him now? Honestly I think he will come good for us.

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13 Jul 2015 08:28:45
If they offer £60m for him United should think about it, otherwise stick with him for another season. If he doesn't come good then they can sell him the next season. With his quality he will fetch in 45m even then and of course we have the likes of PSG always ready to spend the money.

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13 Jul 2015 09:09:44
I think it will come down to 2 things 1) does the player want to be here? 2) does LvG trust him to take on board instructions and play to the game plan?

The big kid in me (no jokes please) would like to see him given a chance and prove everyone wrong but the adult in me thinks if the answer to either Q is no - he may well be gone.

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13 Jul 2015 09:22:54
I think it would be a bad move selling him now we've got players in now who fit the system that will only benefit ADM were built for counter attack which is what Man Utd do best we've got power and pace right through the full team the problem with ADM last year was he was expected to track back and win the ball and was getting caught out but now we've got ball winners everywhere so him and depay cam concentrate on attacking teams

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13 Jul 2015 09:38:02
Certainly don't think we should take a loss on him and doubt we will if psg offer what we paid I think we would look at it but only if there was a chance of getting Bale.

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13 Jul 2015 11:19:46
ADM will be off, we've been linked to a number of right wingers. LVG wants possession based football with Goal scoring wingers, ADM isn't a goal scoring winger.

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13 Jul 2015 12:10:30
I tell you this, Di Maria will be sold if we get up to close the amount we paid for him last season.

Come to think of it,if we can get him off our wage bill,then we can go all out for Gareth Bale and,or Edinson Cavani who I think are very much part of our targets this season.

Having said this,I will be more than glad if Di Maria could be given chance to prove himself here now that we have a better midfield in place.

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13 Jul 2015 08:02:20
New Song sung with French Accent.(Hence Pronunciation of SCHNEIDER LARN)

SCHNEIDERLIN, SCHEIDERLIN does whatever a Sneijder can!

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13 Jul 2015 08:41:58
Terrible

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13 Jul 2015 07:58:54
They say that a week is along time in politics well it seems similarly so in the transfer window. Only last week certain posters were moaning that the window had been open 4/5/6 days and that we hadn't done any business and were missing out on so many players, well let's here from them now!!
Lets not get drawn into a fruitless saga re ramos and get otamendi signed up asap which just leaves another striker to find.
Finally i would politely say to de gea( who to his credit is making no attempt to rock the boat unlike someone soon to be leaving liverpool) that if no sensible offer has come from RM by Aug 1 that it is too close to the start of our domestic season for us to be changing our goalkeeper and that the club will not be selling him. Who knows by the end of next season RM may have signed another keeper or de gea may decide that the affection with which he is held by utd fans outweighs the maelstrom that is madrid. It is also worth remembering that madrid was a trophy free zone last year and if that happens again next year and with ronaldo another year older there maybe compelling football reasons to stay at Utd. let's hope so.

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13 Jul 2015 08:23:06
I think that with Casillas off to Porto, DDG to Real Madrid is just matter of time until United sort out a replacement. I thought that Valdes would be our number 1 next season but now i'm not so sure.

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13 Jul 2015 08:36:45
I was moaning that the manager says one thing and something else happens. He said he wants signings in before pre-season, not before the tour - pre-season started and we only had Depay, people complaining were justified to do so.

I am pleased with these deals, but the most critical area of the team hasn't been addressed still. It all starts from the back and until we have a top class CB or 2 the organisation/tactical aspects of our game will not be improved upon.

Hopefully Otamendi is already in the bag as some people indicate, and if that is the case then I will say fair play.

Let's hope our manager knows how to use the assets he is being provided with, he made a pigs ear of it last season so my jubilation is tempered somewhat by the "proven" record of last seasons displays.

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13 Jul 2015 09:24:26
Beast,

Maybe a couple of the deals took longer than expected, or perhaps the players we wanted were on holiday before pre-season so we waited until they got back before we signed them (Otamendi is still on his), it is only a week after training started and the real pre-season starts on the tour, it really isn't like you to find something to moan about amongst a lot of positives.

Today is a great day to be a united fan, what a weekend, on Friday morning nobody would have thought we would have 3 new top players going on the tour, who knows what will happen in the next couple of weeks. We have a month until the qualifiers, I think that is plenty of time for these lads to settle. I would rather we took our time and got the right players than just signed one who we could get in June.

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13 Jul 2015 10:16:30
Beast, you can't just pick players and tell them and their club you want them NOW. I'm also confident that we haven't left a CB til last out of choice or because we forgot about it. Some signings take time and you can't control them. Sounds a bit petulant to moan about the timing or order of transfer Imo when good moves are clearly being made.

I agree with you in terms of the manager getting the most out of this squad, the better the squad gets the less excuses he will have.

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13 Jul 2015 10:31:46
Guys - I'm obviously aware it's not click your fingers and a deal is done. But if I say I want to buy a house by Monday and then do it a few days later, I have not done what I said I would do. There will of course be mitigating circumstances, but just like the Greek bailout, (A deal is done by Sunday or they leave, it is now Monday - credibility lost).

That's my only point.

IF LVG says something now we can't take it verbatim (I didn't anyway because of his previous mis-truths), but no point in saying anything if you don't expect to be held to it.

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13 Jul 2015 11:08:06
Beast now u are mincing words, it's one thing if he said he WANTS the signings before preseason it is another if he said he WILL buy before then! We don't always get what we want and neither does LvG!

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mbd              

13 Jul 2015 07:24:08
Assuming there are no last minute hitches , it looks like we will have Schneiderlin , Schweinsteiger , Carrick , Herrera , Mata , DiMaria among other to select in midfield next season. Not bad!
I guess my point is , has the time now come for "Nomidfield" to change his user name?

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13 Jul 2015 08:15:21
Haha, you beat me to it! Think his next username could be nostrikers for the mean time;)

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13 Jul 2015 08:18:30
You bet it has BS. Lvg has done the trick and the NoMidfield tag is no longer appicable to our great club.
So how about "MidfieldOrgasm" !
I'm open to suggestions!!

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13 Jul 2015 10:00:08
Schnid-field

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13 Jul 2015 10:00:41
great schmidfield

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13 Jul 2015 10:17:43
Midfield-bone on

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13 Jul 2015 10:18:17
Should we have a vote or competition?

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13 Jul 2015 11:11:07
Midfieldful!

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13 Jul 2015 12:32:52
Nostrikers for the time being

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13 Jul 2015 13:10:32
Minefield! :P

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13 Jul 2015 07:17:45
Now United just need Sneijder to complete the midfield:

Sneijder - Schneiderlin - Schweinsteiger.

United would be the first ever Premier League team feature a Pokemon Evolution path in it!

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13 Jul 2015 08:02:29
Think u got this off city didn't u lol if they signed leroy fer

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13 Jul 2015 07:05:38
Well Mr Woodward thanks for introducing me to this new experience., going to work on a wet dreary Monday morning with a smile on my face 😊 credit where credit it is due he's done very well this transfer window, the thought of bs, schniederlin and herrera in the middle is a magic one, I think that's as good as any midfield in the league, could be the end for mate and possibly fellaini tho 😕 a good centre back and we're good to go I feel . I think we'll challenge for the title this year now personally, with a big signing like muller, or bale ( if Di Maria leaves ) I think there's a good chance we'll win it 😊

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13 Jul 2015 07:27:32
I'm pleased with the signings and am generally positive but I think winning the League might be a stretch. Let's assume Shaw is 1st choice LB and we sign a CB. That means at least 3 of the back 4 are 'new'. This doesn't include DDG who may also go and leave us with a new keeper. Then we have 3 other new players all of whom are likely to start. That means we will have at least 6 new players in the 1st team. If DDG goes and we sign a top class forward, it could be 8. That's an awful lot of players to integrate and get settled into the right formation with the right tactics. It's going to be exciting and great to watch but to change so many players and win the league is ambitious.

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13 Jul 2015 08:28:58
AJH that is exactly what I was thinking, we all get excited with lots of new players being signed but how long will it take for LVG to figure out his best combination, will the players gel, will some struggle to adapt to the premier league.
We only have to look at Falcao and ADM from last year to realise winning the title isn't always about signing the big names, it's about building a team that understand each other. Still, excited for the new season to start.

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13 Jul 2015 09:20:36
stoat,

The thing is we haven't just signed the 'big names' so far, every player we have signed you can work out why we have signed them and each of them is a player who seemingly wants to come to United. I know all players say this but it does genuinely seem like BS wants to sign for us, the pictures of Depay I've seen he looks relaxed and happy and is making all the right noises and Darmian seems delighted to have signed, hopefully the pressure won't be too much for him.

I do agree we may take a little time to settle, especially if we sign 3 more, but I do feel the signings this summer have been more thought out, we obviously knew who we wanted and have got them. let's hope the same thing happens with the next 2-3 players.

I guess De Gea has made his mind up but if I was him in training this morning looking around at the freshness of the team and buzz that must be there I would be considering dumping my gf and signing a new 4 year deal!

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13 Jul 2015 10:23:08
Totally agree ajh, I'm delighted with the signings but it will realistically take time to gel. Unfortunately we had so many gaps in quality that this level of change was inevitable but it means a lack of consistency going into a new season. What I hope for above all else is to take a big step forward this season, then next summer to only need to make 2/3 changes, and same the following summer etc.

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13 Jul 2015 06:21:39
Wow get up for work on the most dreary Monday morning in history to see we have signed MS ! The transfer fairies were busy whilst I was getting my beauty sleep :) God bless you Woody 😁😁😁

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13 Jul 2015 06:20:30
Good morning all,
Wow what a window so far!
If reports are true though and both Henandez and Di Maria are the next ones out, we are a bit short in the final third. I'm assuming Wilson will get more of a chance next year but surely we will need another signing as a forward. Do the eds expect more signings? I can't help but think Otamendi is the next one to arrive, all gone very quiet on his situation all round not just with regards to us.

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13 Jul 2015 06:14:16
Add Reus and Ramos to our list of new signings and we will be definitely back to our absolute best. Reus and Ramos for a combined fee of 80m is not bad.
With the quality of players we are bringing in is there a possibility that DDG may change his mind?

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13 Jul 2015 06:06:34
If we are in for a striker it has got to be thomas mueller. Awesome player

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13 Jul 2015 04:59:43
My prediction says we will now get otamendi and benteke/ lacazette/ mitrovic
Probably a winger if di maria leaves. Gaintan name is not going away every summer.

On funny side let's buy snijder now.
And try to put Basti, Morgan and weasly by surname in 1 tweet for a line up

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13 Jul 2015 01:37:46
so far we have a addressed three areas. Depay for the attack. Damian right back. and the new SAS. schweinsteiger and schneiderlin in midfield. Valdes should be OK even if we don't get another keeper. I would like another centre half. ideally a centre forward too but I also want Wilson Januscz and Pereira to feature a lot.
So all in all a decent transfer window so far. but. even with our signings we shouldn't be unrealistic about our chances to win cups this season. Honestly how many of our players would get in the barca or Bayern or Madrid teams? Chelsea have a very strong team and squad as do City and now Arsenal. If city get pogba imagine him with Ya Ya Toure and Silva. awesome. So please do applaud the Boss and Ed but let's not boast. We ain't won anything yet

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{Ed007's Note - That SAS patter's a yellow card sunshine - that's just (swear) unacceptable. Honestly mate, 2 Our Fathers & 5 Hail Marys for that. ; (

13 Jul 2015 02:44:11
If we play to the top of our game we have all the ingredients to compete with the best in the EPL. If we can stop teams scoring, and I believe we will, we will be in every game. I also expect Di Maria (assuming he stays, and, if not, his replacement) and Depay to provide that little bit extra in those tough games against packed defences. Most of our players have had the summer off, we have a reduced touring schedule and a year under the new manager under our belt.

No reason to be so pessimistic.

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13 Jul 2015 04:52:32
none said we won anything we all saying its looking good midfield now tats it. we still need to buy and build a team. the club doing the good joband the season not started yet let's waite and see.

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13 Jul 2015 00:55:24
Where are the people slagging Woodward off for no signings now

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13 Jul 2015 07:48:47
Back in their shells 😊 He's done well so far, kept things close to his chest, pulled of four key signings before the tour and not overpayed for them. Fair play!

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13 Jul 2015 00:46:29
Can you not all see, these signings are just another way for the Glazers to fleece the club and us fans out of money. Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin at £1.00 a letter, they will make a small fortune.

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13 Jul 2015 10:08:27
I know it's a joke, but thank god the club only charge per name and not per letter these days!

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13 Jul 2015 00:41:26
Man City:
Sterling- £49 million

Total- £49 million

Man united:
Depay- £24 million (estimate)
Darmain- £12.7 million
Bastian- £14.4 million
Morgan- £25 million (estimate)

Total- £76.1 million (estimate)

Spent more than city but with the wages we have released from players moving on and the signings we have made! We are completely outdoing rivals business so far! Still laughing at that Sterling deal.

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13 Jul 2015 00:33:32
Great business so far by woody.
Midfield now full addressed.
World class centre back and a prolific striker and we are set to challenge for big trophies this year. I remember someone mentioning they are going to Florida next year for the third time, the other two being the year of winning the UCL. With the way the window is going, you never know.

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13 Jul 2015 04:47:58
lets all clam down i m not seen any news coming from both the clubs let's waite can any ED confirm this please . if its done we really got modified and ed4 roonie and pepgiggs be very happy just like all man utd go get a cb we be fine cheers.

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13 Jul 2015 07:35:49
I told you guys, it's our CL next season, get your bets on now!

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13 Jul 2015 00:30:31
Can anyone see particularly mata and perhaps ADM being the real winners this window. With us signing midfielders who have some steel about them and can make a tackle will they be free to go forward and focus on that?

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13 Jul 2015 00:47:57
It's a good thought. Our attackers can hopefully focus more on transition to attack with this lovely midfield that is shaping up.

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13 Jul 2015 00:27:06
have we had any interest in charlie austin?

i know he isn't the "big name" signing most would expect but as we are looking into a striker, he wouldn't cost much and proved last season he is capable of scoring goals.

plus he's english and only 26. again wouldn't cost to much and wouldn't be on massive wages.

maybe a player we could look at?

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13 Jul 2015 00:37:16
agree spb!
For a squad player and to be 2nd choice striker, he is superb.
Scored 15+ with mediocre QPR side with no creativity. and is a consistent goal scorer. I would love him to sign rather than Benteke. Gives height advantage too. Next year we can go for recognised striker

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13 Jul 2015 05:25:42
I would prefer benteke or lacazett to understudy Rooney ( I will not use the word 2nd choice) and start replacing him from next season on when age starts catching him up

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13 Jul 2015 00:20:47
Absolutely made up with the last 24 hours. Can't say I know a lot about Darmain, but our midfield has gone from woeful to brilliant overnight! So happy with both. Can't believe how under the radar it's all happening! Great work eddy and LVG! Just looking at Morgan's stats and they better Matic who is a top player, stats can be deceiving sometimes, but I believe he's proved he's up there with the likes of Matic the last 24 months

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13 Jul 2015 03:47:31
To be fair only darmian was under the radar. Depay has been linked since LVG became boss, scweinsteiger for about 5 years and many on here and down the pub have talked about schneiderlin improving our midfield.

Still great business and very optimistic for next season. Still think a CB is a must to replace Evans, even though I've always rated the lad he has declined over the last 18-24 months. Then a forward to compete for a starting spot and I would call it a fantastic window.

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13 Jul 2015 00:20:11
I take back everything I ever said about Ed Woodward! I don't ever remember us having such a successful window - all transfers are addressing needs in the team. Wow.

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13 Jul 2015 00:19:53
His name's Ed Woodward, he does what he wants!! Haha what a weekend. Roll on August now :D

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12 Jul 2015 23:45:11
Time for Nomidfield to change his username?

Agree or disagree

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13 Jul 2015 00:29:42
Change to no strikers

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13 Jul 2015 00:39:30
I've suggested, can't spell our midfield. But then again I've just got in from the pub, and am still in shock.

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13 Jul 2015 01:31:03
Schnomidfield?

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13 Jul 2015 07:31:05
GDS, brilliant. Possibly toomuchmidfield? Cantspellourmidfield?

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13 Jul 2015 07:53:37
Like those suggestions, good one Gds haha.

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13 Jul 2015 08:53:00
Hb. You are right. It is in the process of being changed. Great suggestions. Gds, great name.

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12 Jul 2015 21:59:19
Hi all, just for a bit of fun, I'm making a list of players with a certain connection, if you can guess it and perhaps add to it I'd appreciate it. So here we go
Chapman
Yeboah
Thuram
Poborsky
Pahars
Van Persie
Evra
Agbonlahor
Charlton
Tigana
Ventola
Robert
Craddock
Keller

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{Ed007's Note - Lescott? Laslandes? Butt? Robert?

13 Jul 2015 00:43:46
Platini
Petit

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13 Jul 2015 07:38:02
Di Maria
Pahars
Craddock
Keller

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