Manchester United Banter Archive March 13 2018

13 Mar 2018 23:42:46
I can only describe that performance as Cowardly.

We've suffered some pretty dreadful football in the last few years but that was the kind of rubbish that should send alarm bells ringing around the corridors of power at Old Trafford.

I've trusted Jose, sang his praises, recited his achievements, pleaded for patience, argued the football will come well tonight I'm staring down the barrel of a loaded gun. That was the kind of insipid performance that simply erodes away any optimism, confidence or faith that we can climb out of this malaise that has engulfed our great Club since Fergi retired.

The sheer apathy of the entire display was completely bewildering and totally unacceptable.

Jose endeavoured to serve up some of the most unimaginative, soulless, dreary football I've ever seen for a Club of our history and stature especially in such an important game.

Despite having some of the biggest names in world football if the best we can come up with is hitting hopeful long balls to a half fit Fellaini and Lukaku in the hope of winning knock downs and second balls then we got exactly what we deserved.

I fear we may have witnessed another defining night at Old Trafford and I honestly don't know where we go from here. It was the type of performance you simply can't hide from or make excuses for. It really was that bad.

I'm off to cry myself to sleep!

13 Mar 2018 23:50:43
I think it's just how far away we look from being a top side Danny that makes me feel the same and think where do we go from here . A few good performances but on the whole we look a mile off to me, we can all like a player or two more, a CB or fullbacks but there's just no excuse for us to look quite that bad .

14 Mar 2018 00:17:42
Great post Danny. I’m in exactly the same boat. Massive Jose fan but the tide has turned for me. That was a despicable performance and I can’t remember ever being so embarrassed and enraged at such a soulless, uninspiring and insipid performance. Tonight has proven to me that Jose can not get us back to the top. His style is outdated and with that much attacking talent on the pitch we can take even string any passes together. We need to make a change because going out and spending heavily does not mean Jose will start playing attractive football. We have a good squad here we just need the right manager to harness it. I’m thoroughly disappointed and upset about tonight and didn’t want to over react. But I firmly believe now it’s best for both parties if we part in the summer.

14 Mar 2018 02:11:29
Park i think its fair to say you need good quality in most if not all positions to win the league. With decent quality back ups Is that fair?
Name our high quality full backs.
Name our high quality centre backs.
Name our high quality wingers.
Name our high quality midfielders.
Its not a good squad we are starting players every week that are no more than decent quality back ups.
Then there are players that are not even decent quality back ups. blind darmian jones rojo shaw fellaini even now carrick.
Your right we do have some high quality attackers but a house with out the right foundations will fall down even if it has a great kitchen.

13 Mar 2018 23:27:52
Dam it, was trying to correct a typo and sent that too soon.

To continue, mourinho's comments after the match were insulting as well. Talking about how it's standard for utd to be knocked out the champions league and he's knocked us out himself.

He needs to take some responsibility for a poor team selection and poor tactics.

14 Mar 2018 00:19:39
He lost most of the fans tonight RedD with those tactics. And he lost the rest with those disgraceful comments after. No class and for me he has to go at the end of the season as no amount of money spent is going to change his style of play. We have some very good players but we need the right manager to get the best out of them.

{Ed0333's Note - he’s had no class most of his career I’m surprised your only recognizing it now mate

13 Mar 2018 23:24:39
Fellaini for mctominay was such a bad decision. Firstly, mctominay is playing well and in good form, secondly the wig has hardly played football for four months, and thirdly, what kind of football are we intending to play if we start with him in midfield? It says everything about how mourinho approached this game.

Then there 2 goal Rashford being moved from the left wing where he played great against Liverpool to be replaced by sanchez who is playing shite. Again, makes no sense, there was just no need to do that. Why not leave sanchez in the center and play rashford instead if jesse? Or even drop sanchez and play jesse in the center?

That was such a depressing rubbish show. I don't have anything positive to day about it, and mourinh'comments.

14 Mar 2018 01:44:54
Liverpool fan here in peace. Agree with you RedD, how Mctominay was dropped i have no idea. I thought he was a key reason you got the win on Saturday. I thought that after the weekend JM would have the confidence to step it up a bit and let your players do their thing. On paper, you are all over us in every area bar the forward line. I don't know which is more frustrating, Klopp's tactical naivety at times or Mou's tactical pragmatism.

14 Mar 2018 03:17:06
Agreed. If Jose is going to straight up putting a timebomb in the midfield 2 with Matic, then Jose can't complain when it explodes in his face. Honestly, couldn't figure out what Jose sees in Fellaini. Couldn't pass, couldn't dribble, clumsy.

13 Mar 2018 23:11:33
Wow is this an overreaction?
When I said after the first leg that Seville are the favourites now to go through (giving proper reasons why) , you guys just bashed me and some even told me how we were favourites amongst the bookies.

I posted how I am happy that Fellaini is leaving and that he is useless, people defended him. Now same people are bashing him.

We just got knocked out by the worst team in the CL and people were mocking Spurs. Let's just wait and maybe we'll win a match and all will be forgotten.

13 Mar 2018 23:17:40
You happy you were right? Well done you told us so. 0-0 was an ok result away from home if we went out tonight and didn’t play like we won the first leg 3-0, absolute joke of a performance.

13 Mar 2018 23:30:21
Never mind. We beat Liverpool.

13 Mar 2018 23:50:41
GDS2 - an away 0-0 is always a risky score but more importantly it was the manner of the draw, no attacking intent at all. Coupled with the embarrassing performance tonight we got exactly what we deserved, we went out in a whimper.
Strange team selection for me, after Sat when people were lauding a José master class why change things so much, a static midfield 2, moving Rashford presumably to try to get more from Sanchez, leaving Mata out, I really don't understand it.
José has gone from master class to bottom of the class with his team selection / tactics tonight and the less said about the away leg the better.
If one person could justify or even explain Fellani's selection I would love to hear it.

14 Mar 2018 08:53:27
Congrats on the beating Liverpool trophy

hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaahah

Best part i won 600 € betting on Sevilla!

13 Mar 2018 22:42:30
Let's be honest we all could see them scoring except our manager, shocking tactics poor passing and again brings Pogba on to do nothing. Why change the tram from Saturday, Mata should have started and McTormey. Jose l fear you have lost the fans now. This long ball shite is not good enough. When we started attacking at the end we created more in ten minutes than the previous 170 minutes against a very average team.

13 Mar 2018 23:16:42
I read on Sky Sports that over the two legs we only had 4 shots on target. with out attacking options, that’s not good enough!

A must win game and we’re playing with Matic and Fellaini in midfield! Pogba needs a rocket up his ar*e!

The defence needs sorted. Heard a rumour that we may be interested in Umtiti, can’t be any worse than Smalling!

13 Mar 2018 23:23:22
The Special Sam.

13 Mar 2018 22:39:13
Very disappointing

Start by saying the team selection was wrong, the midfield slow and cumbersome, I cannot understand why Fellaini was selected, cannot understand that at all. He should never have been bought and should now be allowed to leave for free. If he is given a new contract I would be very annoyed. It was obvious after 10 mins Sevilla when were passing it around our midfield that a change was needed but it didn't happen.

We started positively for about 5 minutes, closing down but then seemed to step back, why?

I was surprised even shocked by the lack of passion and drive by the players, there seemed little desire, their attitude just didn't seem right. It almost seems some of the players can't cope with the pressure of playing on that stage.

Is it a too cautious approach, maybe, but we don't know what the instructions were, however we went down without a fight, the players gave up, where was their determination and fighting spirit?

13 Mar 2018 23:16:39
Top post Redman. No matter how you play and what tactics werr given. If you lack desire and motivation in whatever you do whether that is playing football or performing at work then you will come back with failure.

13 Mar 2018 22:32:05
As much as I am a big fan of Pogba and think he COULD be one of the best in the world, something is clearly not right.

He looks to me like the last couple of months of Di Maria's time at the club - lazy, short on confidence and unable to do the simplest of things like a 5 yard pass.

If his heart is not in it then he needs to go, otherwise he needs to pull his finger out and show us what he is capable of on a more consistent basis.

Today was a very poor performance and result and I can see that the doom mongers are already out. This week has been two steps forward and now one back. It doesn't seem like it right now but it is still one step forward compared to last year.

We are moving (slowly) in the right direction. But total agreement about today - that was put simply not good enough.

13 Mar 2018 22:02:32
Terrible performance . A lot of big name players were massive under achievers tonight . what's happened to Sanchez since he started wearing a Utd shirt?

13 Mar 2018 22:19:22
Sanchez has been poisoned by the negativity. I don't think it's a coincidence any of the supposed 'flare' players have suffered for Utd in recent years. We have had some of the best in the world and they are starved.

You are going to give the ball away if players aren't moving correctly, their mind is on defensive duty and he is expecting players to be in positions where they aren't. He is being sloppy, but frustration contributes, trying to do too much because nobody else wants to take on the baton.

Same happened with ADM. Strikers are starved, full backs don't know how to play as full backs, midfield don't support attack, defenders can double up. He is not on form, but that is compounded by these issues.

We could sign Messi and it would be similar - unless the style and mindset changes we will ruin flare. Fitness is a massive issue as well, nobody works off the ball. Amount of players trotting is a disgrace. Good players made to look like they aren't.

13 Mar 2018 22:56:57
beast juve pulled our pants down with pogba yes he is well suited to a slow italian league but can not cut it in ours. makes you think if fergie knew more and that is why he would not play him. i don't mind players having off games but not even breaking sweat i just can not defend and he is not the only one.

{Ed033's Note - Oh, that's how wiggy caught a dose, by juve pulling his pants down.

13 Mar 2018 23:32:35
'flair' :)

14 Mar 2018 00:40:14
Whoops, been spelling it like that all my life! Cheers Stevie.

13 Mar 2018 21:57:09
Shocking that, got to look at the manager tonight .
1 goal in 180 minutes .
Nzonzi ran the show 2 games on the trot .

4 shots in 2 games?
Must be the full backs.

13 Mar 2018 21:55:40
I’d started to give Jose some credit and then we get this. Big game against an average Spanish team and what a disgrace. Sir Matt will be turning in his grave. There is a way to win and a way to lose, that was no way to lose.

The selection after Saturday was bizarre. Rashford who was brilliant at the weekend was moved to accommodate Sanchez who has been dreadful. We needed to win the game but we set up defensively and however myth success you think we have made, he is not a United Manager.

I have no more words.

13 Mar 2018 22:16:40
Sanchez was poor, pogba when came on was poor but it looks like his confidence has been shot by the love in for Sanchez. Fellaini should never have started the game.

Some of these players has to look at their faces in the mirror and think oto themselves if they gave their all in this match.

13 Mar 2018 22:20:26
After the Liverpool game we should have been flying, we should have been full of confidence and easily beat Sevilla. I really don't know what to say, the way I'm feeling i'd rather Jose leave he seems to be hell bent on turning us into this negative scared team.

13 Mar 2018 23:19:36
Oh dear simonmorris10 has he really gone from Jose the tactical genius to “leave now you negative scared loser” in just 3 whole days? I told you not to gloat just because you got the result on Saturday with your sour ale house hoof ball.
You were warned, Palace lucky, Chelsea lucky, Liverpool lucky.

I actually thought you’d go out on away goals tonight so to lose the tie outright well your bus is about as precariously balanced as the one at the end of the Italian Job, whoops did I mention an another English bus in a European pickle there?
In the words of Michael Cane “hold on lads, I’ve got a great idea” or should that be a great De Gea and 10 useless nuggets?

I was actually out tonight refereeing midweek 6-a-side and missed your European masterclass and I had to switch the heated seats on in the car on the way home, to dry up the puddle I made after tuning the radio on where your biased presenter was blocking all his mates from social media so he didn’t have to front up to the stick.

Anyway to all those of you that came a gloating on Saturday over on our site, enjoy your half and half dominos pizza with the Chelski boys on UCL 1/4 finals nights 🍕 Maybe Jose will get the call from Teresa May for the Brexit negotiations now he’s free in the evenings. he seems to have the leaving Europe malarkey well boxed off.

Anyway keep the faith lads with your 8 man defence, there’s still the FA Cup to win on penalties after a 0-0 v Wigan in the most entertaining final for years.
1🤩2🤩3🤩4🤩5🤩 In Istanbul we won it 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 times, nighty night sleep tight (oh sorry my mistake, you all already fell asleep about 19:55 💤 🛏 😴 )

14 Mar 2018 06:17:40
Sorry koppite just out of interest what was the liquid on your car seat? Did you pull up next to the Liverpool legend Jamie Carragher, school boy error.
We where poor mate and Savilla fully deserved to go through Jose got it wrong, but you won't find us scrambling for excuses trying to blame the ref or anyone else, graceful in defeat not bitter and whinny.
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14 Mar 2018 11:37:52
Not bitter or whinny just calling for his head and criticising the negative football that you were defending as tactical genius only a few days ago? You were beaten at your own game by all accounts (like I said I had better things to do than watch it) must have been an exciting watch for insomniacs, best 90 mins kip they’d had in a while.

14 Mar 2018 18:58:41
You know what koppite, if anyone knows how this feels it must be you, 27 years is a very long time to been out in the wilderness. 2013 seams so long ago at the moment I'm not sure Jose is the man for the job.

14 Mar 2018 21:06:35
Indeed Simon, when I was growing up it was role reversal as you hadn’t won the league for a similar period. Everything is cyclical, I wonder whether you are about to enter into a fallow period, you shouldn't be really given your financial clout you just need to solve the ghost of Ferguson managerial issue and Jose isn't the answer.

Such fine margins between success and failure in the modern game, it will be an interesting few seasons for the top 6 now. There is no patience afforded anyone in those managerial roles, the Wenger and Ferguson situations have been quite unique in this day and age.

13 Mar 2018 21:53:30
Absolutely peed off with that display and result. for me they f**ked it up in the 1st leg by not going for the away goal and tonight they came out on the pitch thinking it was going to be an easy win. they showed nothing tonight and it backfired big time they totally got what they deserved out of the champ league to many big heads thinking they already won when they came out.

13 Mar 2018 22:23:15
Mourinho attempting to win the champs league winning every game on pens after 0-0 in every knock out game.

13 Mar 2018 21:52:34
So we came from behind and beat Chelsea, we came from behind and beat palace, we beat Liverpool. Then we serve up that absolute dross in the biggest game of our season so far. The manager needs to do something drastic, the set up was all wrong. Why did Fellaini play ahead of mctominay or pogba (who was awful when he came on) . There was no ounce of passion from the players tonight, which can be seen quite clearly on the second goal. So many players let themselves down tonight.
There is no character in this squad, no leader, not one player who is going to drag us back into a game. There was no chance of a Roy keane type performance in 1999. I don't know what the solution is, this is where we better hope and pray Jose has a plan in the recruitment this summer.
Caolán.

13 Mar 2018 21:48:06
So we crash out of the UCL and I see everyone blaming Jose. sorry not for me, I’m pointing the finger at the players. Tonight Fellaini, Alexis and Pogba the worst of the bunch.

13 Mar 2018 22:24:10
two of which were players that jose picked to start who should be nowhere near a starting line up.

14 Mar 2018 11:44:57
Matt, i don't think anyone's happier than me to have Jose as our manager and i'll defend him always.

But this one is on him. He set up the team in the wrong way, and the players were just phoning it in for 86 mins. But the onus should fall on Jose to shake things up, he didn't and we lost as a result.

Live n learn.

13 Mar 2018 21:40:27
Hello boys.

You go 2-0 down and the fans leave the stadium in droves. Booed off at the end, you certainly left your side to walk alone.

Love TAA.

13 Mar 2018 21:46:43
Keep it coming. We deserve it.

13 Mar 2018 21:46:50
To tell the truth Drogie I am spitting feathers which is much classier than spitting at rival fans. 😜.

13 Mar 2018 21:52:59
All over it like a tramp on chips. Carragher is on his own.

13 Mar 2018 22:02:56
Haha. I’ll give you that one Huggy 😉.

13 Mar 2018 21:38:46
Sloppy, no intensity and don't look afraid of going out. Seville haven't even played well, just defended well and waited for the mistake.

13 Mar 2018 21:30:01
José's pragmatic, playing for 0.0 draw, boring football which guarantees results.

How we have played since going 2.0 down is exactly how we could have played over 180 minutes if our world class players weren't restricted to playing like Stoke City.

13 Mar 2018 21:55:27
I don't agree. Stoke played better than this at Home.

13 Mar 2018 21:21:08
This is all José's fault. Started safety first, and let them take control of the game. Poor management in the biggest game of our season.

13 Mar 2018 21:36:53
Plays for 0.0 when we should have been going to Sevilla and looking for goals like Liverpool got at Porto. All these top notch players and all restricted from playing their own way. Even Sanchez cannot shine under Jose. Doubt Messi would either. It's not the players, it's the style of play. Imagine SAF with these players.

13 Mar 2018 21:37:35
Credit where it is due. Fair play to Sevilla, they actually tried to win the tie. They didn't play for the 0-0 or resort to pre-war football as we have done so often this season.

They were a Ben Yedder away from sealing the tie in the first leg. Fortunately, they played Muriel, who is terrible.

Let's look on the bright side, no more European fans will have to waste their money coming to Old Trafford this season.

13 Mar 2018 21:16:35
Brilliant performance. can't single out one player. Everyone gutter absolutely.

13 Mar 2018 22:00:51
I've not even seen the game ( I was watching my local team play) but I wasn't really expecting anything from tonight, Utd at present flatter to deceive, yes we had a positive result at the weekend but almost inevitably the wheels come tumbling off when we are asked a question. Did anyone seriously think that we had a chance of winning the whole thing? I just can't wait for this season to end.

13 Mar 2018 20:53:18
We need to start playing. This is not good enough.
The first leg in long gone is time to play for a win.

For a team that think about winning the CL this is a very poor display so far.

Mata and Pogba type of game.

13 Mar 2018 20:08:59
Fellaini is not plan A for a team hoping to win the CL.

13 Mar 2018 20:32:07
Just throw the ball into the tower.
The first 135 minutes are to avoid conceding. And then Mou complaint about the atmosphere.

13 Mar 2018 20:33:12
Your right, Mata would be a better bet in this game.

13 Mar 2018 20:43:50
McTommy or a half fit Pogba would be a better shout. Fellaini has his uses, but not starting alongside Matic in a two man midfield. If we moved the ball any slower, we’d be playing some football/ curling hybrid.

13 Mar 2018 18:48:20
I love coming to old trafford. can't wait for the game tonight. Not happy with the team selection tonight but Jose knows best i guess. I wouldn't put fellaini in a pub team but jose likes him and he does always try his best which is more than can be said for some of our squad.

13 Mar 2018 17:55:03
Re the below post of peoples opinions, I can write it now, we as united have the makings of a great team and we have a world class manager BUT even though we have these, we do not yet have the flow you'd expect. Maybe too many big names, maybe the manager. However i like mourinho but he can and should be replaced once he's steadied the ship. The players clicking I believe is down to Jose's lack of attacking training (this I've heard from eds and other people - he does over focus on defence) . It works but for how long, with the squad we have now we should be a lot closer to city. I don't think we'll win the PL under Jose. Unfortunately. However I think he's making progress.

That's me on the outside looking in.

13 Mar 2018 14:50:49
{Ed's Note - PutneyRed has posted a new article entitled, Premier League prospects over the coming years

13 Mar 2018 15:15:24
So Liverpool are on the up but utd aren't as mourinho can't be trusted and we are in transition, another next year is our year picture by a Liverpool fan.

Fact is unless mourinho and Woodward completely lose their rubbish next season we will be city's biggest competitors and City won't be as good as they have been. You still don't have a keeper and you are targeting navas as your next keeper tells me all there is to know. Salah won't be as effective as now as he will be allowed much less space on the ball and he would have to prove that he isn't just a one season wonder. Even with kieta you still don't have a decent DM.

Also please don't talk about money you basically funded your cb and mf with coutinho that isn't competing with big boys or improving it is basically following the Southampton model. If Salah has a great second season you will sell him and then have to start over.

13 Mar 2018 15:30:52
Putney Red

I read your post on the Liverpool the other day and thought it was refreshingly honest and not blinded by bias like a lot of your fellow Liverpool fans seem to tainted by.

However, I have to agree with CSM here that how can you argue that Liverpool are on the up and united aren’t when we are 5 points ahead of you and in 2nd while you are in 4th? We are all very far behind City but for all your attacking football you are no closer than any of the chasing pack to city. With 30 games gone this season the table doesn’t lie. We are the second best team in the league with a manager that knows how to win. Ourr football is not the style we want but our improvement from last year is huge. write us off at your peril because we will be city’s biggest challengers for the next few years. You guys have spent just as much money as we have this season so I don’t agree with the narrative that seems to be going round that we just spend whilst Klopp hasn’t. I don’t think Liverpool are as good as you guys believe you are. Claiming you have the best front three in the world is an example of the delusion.

Like I said. I thought your post the other day was very balanced but I didn’t think you were in this article.

13 Mar 2018 15:46:57
Good writeup or at least somebody tried to write up.
It’s good to think your own team is in the rise and others are par or sub par. I feel it’s a good attempt but still not quite unbiased.
My only commend is the effort. Fair analysis or not I do not quite agree but yes good attempt.

13 Mar 2018 15:49:18
Common_sense, I'm pretty certain you didn't actually read the article.

13 Mar 2018 16:08:21
The majority of United fans back Jose and even the ones who show discontent, are only doing so because they want to see us play with the shackles off every now and then. Jose lives in a hotel therefore he's not going to be around is utter nonsense. He lives in an apartment at the top of a hotel. Anything he needs is a phone call away. He's hardly living in a Premier Inn sleeping head to toe with Lenny Henry!

You use Klopp as a reason why you can challenge for the league over the coming years, "the squad has problems but Klopp has a plan to rectify them".

I don't see Klopp as methodical type of manager. I said this the other day but it's very relevant, Klopp is awful and I mean awful at changing a game from the touchline. His substitutions are often wrong and nearly always too late. I can't remember ever seeing him change the shape of the team to effect the game. Take the United game for example. He could have told Van Dijk to get on Lukaku. He could have told Can to help with Lukaku. He could have told Salah to help TAA for 10 minutes. He could have instructed them to open the game up and go wide. He done none of this. The biggest stat, he's been in charge just over 2 years, he's dropped 50 points from winning positions. That's just one of the many reasons he won't win a title with liverpool.

Your ability as fans to warp the truth around you is like something from the matrix! Iv seen posts like "De Gea was a bit rubbish when he came to England so we should stick with Karius and he can be just as good"

Our survey says EH EH.

That's just one of many! Yesterday Grujic was the answer to your midfield problems.

Our survey says EH EH.

For the record, I can see City racking up 4 out of the next 5 titles, but if there's one team and manager to go up against the god of football that is pep. It's the anti christ Jose and his band of Red Devils!

I love reading all the teams pages. Keep them coming Putney! Good lad.

13 Mar 2018 16:26:52
great response mumbles. agree on the point about jose living in the hotel. It s a fully furnished penthouse with all his cooking, ironing etc done for him. Its not as if he is having a dominos pizza every night in a premier inn as you have said. Funny how as we are winning and jose looking happy that the problems about the hotel living go away.

Liverpool can't even keep hold of their best players. Whose to say real don't come in for Salah in the next couple of years? I would not write off chelsea either who I suspect will have a new manager and they always perform well every other season. and writing spurs off as well is very naive.

13 Mar 2018 16:48:47
I thought his was a pretty good assessment of things right now, pretty balanced across all teams. Good article.

13 Mar 2018 17:03:57
Putney - I think that was a decent assessment to be honest.

The main problem being I think you grossly over estimate your own Club and maybe a more measured assessment may have been appropriate. Sadly it has the usual signature of "it's our year" written right through it.

I think it will be hard for anybody to match the consistency of this City team over the next few seasons.

Jose has toppled Pep before and good Mourinho's teams always have a brutal efficiency and resilience to churn out results even when playing badly.

Utd have the financial strength in order to target the best players and I expect Utd to be the biggest threat to Pep's impending dynasty over the next few seasons.

Chelsea will appoint a new manager and return invigorated next season. Whilst I expect Spurs to gradually drop away over the next few seasons (for the reasons you have mentioned) I still expect them to battle for top 4 with L'pool and Arsenal.

Great post again Mumbles a lovely blend of humour and home truths. Keep them coming pal.

13 Mar 2018 17:39:51
Gents, i'm a little puzzled by your responses, I said I think Utd are improving under Mourinho and are going to only get stronger. I'm not sure why you've taken offence to that.

As for grossly overestimateing our prospects, we've matched city over the last 3 or 4 months. We're not the finished article but we're heading in the right direction.

13 Mar 2018 18:19:47
Putney. I think you'll find that United is the top form team over the past 2 months.

13 Mar 2018 18:34:33
Putney - I agree you've been in great form but I always get the feeling L'pool fans get carried away and blinded to the bigger picture.

Maybe I over exaggerated and I actually think your assessment of most teams was balanced and fair.

Ok I understand your optimism but I still think your well short of getting anywhere near City and like I've said with Utd's financial muscle and Mourinho's pedigree I just can't see how your feel L'pool will be better placed to challenge City.

You acknowledge that the squad has problems but don't elaborate and then appear to comfort yourself that Klopp has a plan but don't comment on what this might be or identity any evidence to back up this assertion.

Mumbles points out that Klopp has an awful record from winning positions and Klopp often fails to influence games from the bench.

Whilst your right to illustrate that Utd are improving and have the stats to back this up L'pool still face the same problems which keep resurfacing time and time again. You struggle to break down well organised defences and still have a very soft centre as recently demonstrated at OT only a few days ago. This being a game I might add that you all fully expected to win handsomely despite Utd's very impressive home record under Mourinho.

Anyway it's a game of opinions and I think you just lost your way slightly with the assessment of your own team and maybe got carried away with the euphoria surrounding the Club at the moment as I find is often the case with L'pool fans.

13 Mar 2018 19:45:33
Good read that putney.

13 Mar 2018 07:12:35
Morning all. Here's an interesting stat boys.

Man City now have the best defensive record without parking the bus!

That glorious win against Liverpool sets Manchester City on course to win the league against the Salford reds at the Etihad.

That City countdown banner has well and truly lost its place on the stands of old Trafford .

13 Mar 2018 07:24:55
Also have the most empty seats despite playing the best football in the league.

2/ 10 for banter
1/ 10 for execution.

D- try harder.

13 Mar 2018 07:25:39
Not sure whether you’re a Man City troll or not!

13 Mar 2018 08:26:19
Would be nice to have some city fans on here, their site is like their stadium at the moment, nobody there.

Going to assume this clown is a Liverpool fan though, city fans aren’t usually so embarrassing. They do seem obsessed with winning it at the Emptyhad against us though, like it matters, they won it months ago. And just like the scousers they seem to think they will just walkover us when we play them, risky thought process.

13 Mar 2018 08:26:46
No this lad is one of the Liverpool fish I caught over on the Scouse page. Bless him, he's trying hard.

I might have put a few noses out of joint by the looks of things.

I only asked a simple question,
"Is it hypocritical to sing "You'll never walk alone" then turn on your players and slag them off 90 minutes later? "

Very few seemed to grasp it.

Drogie, mate you will need to up your game. We have been aware that City will win the league for quite a while.
I think it says a lot about where Liverpool are atm by celebrating someone other than their team winning the league.
Funny how 27 years in the footballing wilderness has turned fans of a form great club in to anyone but United fans.

13 Mar 2018 08:56:55
And as i came back at you Shappy.

You’re page was in meltdown when you’re players and team were under performing during the Moyes and LVG era, you seem to forget the abuse towards your own players.

Let’s not forget you were in the same predicament before the birth of the Premier League.26 years.

I’m a season ticket holder on the kop and have been fortunate to watch our great teams of the 80’s. I enjoy watching good football no matter what team. City are doing this at the moment and they are fantastic to watch, with the best defensive record.

So it looks like you’ve jumped into my net Shappy.

13 Mar 2018 08:57:23
Wow we have reached a stage where fan of a club that hasn't won a pl trophy since time immemorial is going to tell us that we haven't won a pl trophy in a while.

13 Mar 2018 09:42:16
Aww ain't this one precious, looks like he's only came here for my attention.

Drogie mate I must let you know if this gets weird I will have to get a restraining order. Thinking about it, that wasn't you going through my bins this morning was it? Lol.

I admitted on the Liverpool page that United fans are just as bad at giving their players abuse. Sometimes it's justified sometimes it's not. What I was asking though was isn't it hypocritical to sing to your players how you will always support them to stab them in the back 90 minutes later.

You do know what hypocritical means?

United fans make no such promises, so although I don't agree with slagging off the players at least United fans aren't being hypocrites when doing so.

Hope that clears things up.

13 Mar 2018 09:17:42
For a moment then I thought that was a post from an honest to goodness city fan then I remembered that you have more chance of seeing a post from Jimmy Hoffa than you do a city fan.

No unfortunately just another tragic post from another tragic Scouser is that how bad it's got now mate that because you and your "best front 3 in europe" can't beat us you start supporting city in the hope they can?

City won the league about 3 months ago I couldn't care less about city I don't even look for their results any more.

13 Mar 2018 09:47:21
@ Moysie. You either haven’t read my post correctly or I can only assume you’re too young to know your own history.

@DGDS2 - Yes this clown is a Liverpool fan, thanks for that by the way. I agree, City fans do seem to have an air of sensibility about them. I work in Manchester so mix with reds and blues. When we go City away, we always get the soccer bus back into town with the City fans and we always have a decent convo with them.

The same can’t be said with United away, we are always kept back for at least 30mins after the game, it’s the same with the reverse fixture.

13 Mar 2018 10:00:57
Aren’t being hypocrites Shappy? Comment of the morning
😂.

13 Mar 2018 10:31:17
How are we being hypocrites?

13 Mar 2018 10:44:10
My my to read a sad bitter rival supporter who comes here to talk about City situation? I think you are a complete lost.
1. You have just lost the game to us
2. You have lost your way. Do go to City’s site to praise them. They’ll appreciate you there.
We are in the know here that City will probably win the League. That means all others are below. More importantly ManUtd is above Liverpool 🤣🤣🤣. But the most important thing is Liverpool is 27 going on 28 yrs without ANYTHING! You can’t even win a Mickey Mouse Cup! Even Arsenal has won a Shield. You ain’t got no aluminum let alone silverware. So where does that leave you? Don’t embarrass some of you good your fellow scousers. Eat the humble pie and no one will bother you.

13 Mar 2018 10:41:58
Tradgic post? Can’t handle the banter Deano? Not my fault I couldn’t see your infamous City ”ticker” banner as I looked across to the Stretford end on Saturday.

Deary me. My origanal post has nothing to do with the performance of our front three, we were poor. it’s the potential derby day showdown due to the result!

If Everton were on the verge of winnnng the league against Liverpool there would be plenty of United fans all over it like a rash.

😂.

13 Mar 2018 11:12:25
Stop lying 666 they have won plenty of trophies in recent years, they win the pretty football is better than trophies trophy not to mention the next year is our year trophy every single year, then there was the draw against westbrom trophy not to mention 2 finals in klopp's first season trophy and who can forget the 2014 best 2nd place trophy.

Anyone who says Liverpool don't win trophies is FAKE NEWS.

13 Mar 2018 11:20:48
Well, I’ve very much enjoyed the bites this morning, lovely talking to you all. Not forgetting some of you and your wonderful opportunity to get over to the Liverpool page all weekend. Always welcome.

Off to buy my City scarf now. Would hate to disappoint.

Good luck tonight and hope we get you in the next round. Win, lose or draw United away is the most entertaining fixture

😘.

13 Mar 2018 11:23:05
I'd take my time and explain the difference between Your and You're but I'm afraid I'd get spat at. You must be looking forward to the rap 'collabo' between Slippy G and Spitty C.

13 Mar 2018 11:20:44
What a childish post drogie. Seeing as though you have been a season ticket holder in the kop since the 80s I’m guessing that that would make you over the age of 40. Pretty sad and pathetic to come here and try and troll.

I’ve never experienced such a meltdown and bitterness from you scousers as I have from your loss of Saturday. You were out fought and out thought by us and didn’t even make our goal keeper work. But don’t worry you’ve still got your trophy for ‘dominated possession’ to keep you guys happy. Shows the small club scouse mentality that you guys are still crying about Saturday whilst we’ve enjoyed the victory and already have our sights on our important matches tonight and Saturday. You guys are so obsessed with us it’s laughable. Haven’t won the league in over 28 years. You guys a big club? Don’t joke. The delusion on your page was getting to dizzying heights that I’m sure some of your fellow Liverpool fans have been suffering from altitude sickness. So I would get back to concentrating on yourselves as one loss and you could find yourself out the top 4. Off you go mate.

13 Mar 2018 11:30:41
You talk of sharing conversations about football with City fans, but not Utd fans. I can do the same with Everton fans. Why? Because I've no animosity towards their club, and there isn't all those years of bitter rivalry between us. C'mon, mate. You say you're a fan of a certain vintage- I shouldn't have to point out the obvious to you.

13 Mar 2018 11:54:39
CSM so sorry my bad 🤣🤣🤣.

13 Mar 2018 12:26:55
Did you get the footie bus with the city fans because there were lots of empty seats?

13 Mar 2018 12:28:42
I didn't see the banner either mate maybe it was hiding in the same place as your front 3.

13 Mar 2018 12:28:43
Ctr how are you doing, long time no hear, how have you been.

13 Mar 2018 13:12:09
I had a betamax recorder once for taping rentaghost.

13 Mar 2018 05:17:46
Massive game tonight!

Really could have done with a 1-1 at their place because now we cannot concede until we are comfortably winning it and it won't be that easy.