Manchester United Banter Archive June 14 2015

 

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14 Jun 2015 22:59:58
Ok guys,

I'm getting married next year and one thing the Mrs has allowed me to do (other than paying for it) is to have the tables named after United players.

My best man is a gooner so obviously he is on the Van Persie table :)

I was going to have a Giggs table but I then thought it through and came to the conclusion that was a bad idea at a wedding lol.

A few names thrown about with some funny little things to have on them would be appreciated.

Thanks guys.

CTR

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{Ed004's Note - Congratulations mate}

14 Jun 2015 23:34:30
You could have either a Robbie Savage table or an owen Hargreaves table for people who you know have to be invited and come along but you don't really want them there.

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14 Jun 2015 23:39:38
Bridesmaids @ Sir Alex ferguson table because of Hairdryer treatment

Grooms men at the Roy Keane table because the best man can't fail to prepare a speech and end up preparing to fail and a speech is a tough job

Any heavy set people can go to the Anderson table. The kids can all go on the Young Table.

Anyone that may spoil the show and try to grab all the spotlight can go on the Rooney table

And if their is any fine ladies in need of a good night put her on the Parker table so she can Parker her self next to me lol

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15 Jun 2015 07:04:31
Haha, I like the Young table idea RDF.

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15 Jun 2015 07:07:58
If there's no room at the Young table, the children could be on the Kidd's and Smalling tables while those providing childcare are placed at the adjacent Nani table.

The food should be on the Cole's Law table.

People with dentures should be on the Nobby Stiles table.

The band is at the Giggs table.

Those likely to spoil the propriety of the day by insisting on telling loud and excessively dirty jokes should be consigned to the Ruud table in a noisy corner by the toilets.

Those who smoke should be moved to the Butt table, which should be located in the toilets.

If you have any guests from across the Pennines they will be sat at the Yorke table.

The wealthy relatives are sat at the Fortune table.

You and your family should of course be on the Best table.

Everyone else goes on the Evra one else table.

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15 Jun 2015 07:13:35
Eric Cantona table for people who want the party to get off with "a kick"!

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15 Jun 2015 07:38:43
Great effort Shawthing pal.

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{Ed001's Note - congratulations CTR, and can you pass on my commiserations to Mrs CTR to be, she is a brave woman marrying you! I wish her all the luck in the world, as she will need it.}

15 Jun 2015 08:31:22
For the children's table I'm going with the Brian Kidd table. Alternatively if they have some footballing talent call them the class of 2026.

Any of the lightweights can be put on the Januzaj table.

Gingers go on the Scholes table. You can also put any of your friends who happen to be magicians on this table as either can qualify.

The guests who leave way too early are sat at the Pogba table. Once they all leave, you can change this to the Fresh/Ronaldo table as you'll want them to come back.

Long shot but at most weddings there will be people who have been invited by one of the bride or groom but the other doesn't really have a clue who they are. Raymond van der Gouw did you get an invite table?

Also if you have a singer, band or DJ then they can sit at the For Tune's table.

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15 Jun 2015 08:39:52
Also congratulations CTR.

Since I'm writing again, if you have any Belgians coming to the wedding they have to be sat at the Ronnie table.

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15 Jun 2015 08:39:53
Forget table names, get out, get out now! They all turn nuts as soon as the honeymoon is over, but by then it's too late and like a black widow spider, they have you trapped, and you pray for a quick and painless end.

But congratulations pal, and good luck! ;-)

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15 Jun 2015 09:06:42
After all these preparation i hope you don't land in a "Slippy G" table. Congratulations CTR.

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15 Jun 2015 09:24:24
Chris!

Congratulations!

I also was lucky enough that the wife allowed tables named after utd players! Like you I'm also from Cambridge so shows the women down here are very accommodating!!!

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15 Jun 2015 09:52:22
Lol ed01, she's the luckiest girl in the world.

Cheers guys, thought I'd better get her tied down before she realised the mistake she is making and the life insurance isn't as big as I told her.

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{Ed001's Note - naw that's my missus obviously. Oh wait, thought you had an un in front of luckiest then!}

15 Jun 2015 10:23:31
Congratulations!!!!!

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mbd              

15 Jun 2015 14:52:11
Another good man down :(

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15 Jun 2015 15:24:47
Where Stevie? :)

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15 Jun 2015 17:23:19
Put the Mother in Law on the Tevez table, that will get you off to a good start!

Good luck mate hope it goes well.

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15 Jun 2015 17:37:20
Cheers beast,

Haha yes and that she makes tevez look like a supermodel.

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15 Jun 2015 18:25:37
Congrats ctrl. no reason you should be happy all your life so welcome to the married club😃

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14 Jun 2015 22:58:17
Only reason di maria hasn't performed is lvg!!! He wants his players to lose their flair and creativeness and freedom! He wants them to move the ball and not roam around in a 'free' role!!!! That what di maria is all about and he doesn't want to play with shackles he wants to play his own game and should be allowed to do what he wants with the ball, like he did in his first 3 game's!!

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15 Jun 2015 09:46:45
Pep,

Have you met Beast? You would get on well.

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15 Jun 2015 17:24:20
Great point Pep, hope to see more of you next season.

Let's see what happens to Depay now LVG has his hands on him.

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14 Jun 2015 20:39:30
1st post so here goes! What about a Cheeky bid for Jack Wiltshire? Seems to have a good understanding with Rooney and is quality if kept fit!!

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14 Jun 2015 20:55:15
motd fever has hit the page.

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14 Jun 2015 21:13:32
I thought it was near on impossible to spell Wilshere so wrong

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14 Jun 2015 21:19:35
Other than then 2 goals what has he done. Most over rated over hyped player in the league.

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14 Jun 2015 21:45:24
HaHa good start! Apologies over my spelling! Is he over rated?? He is class. Reminds me so much of Robbo, and he wasn't that bad! Him in a midfield with Herrera plus Carrick (or Schweinsteiger/Schnederlin (apologies if spelt wrong!) would be the strongest in Prem league.

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14 Jun 2015 21:54:17
i think he is a top player would be a great signing

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14 Jun 2015 21:59:22
That midfield will be "smoking"!

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14 Jun 2015 22:03:15
We hhave enough injury ravaged players. Good player when fit though

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14 Jun 2015 22:04:56
Have to change your name to nicotinemidfield

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14 Jun 2015 22:25:55
Very true jwalk! But to me if We are linked with Gundogan who spent nearly a year a out injured has no prem experience and is going to cost £20m then Wilshere is def worth a punt!

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14 Jun 2015 22:12:45
I posted about Wilshere as a possibility yesterday before the England game but it was put on the "other" page so it wasn't MOTD fever!

I always felt he has talent but liked what I saw when he played for Arsenal at OT, he looked physically strong and feel he may be a good option to consider

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14 Jun 2015 22:35:02
i like you Red Man :)

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14 Jun 2015 22:52:39
Think I would prefer bastain sjweinstiger ahead of jock Wiltshire but maybe that's just me.

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14 Jun 2015 23:27:06
Always rate JW highly. He is very positive and tries to drive forward. A little similar to Ander Herrera is some ways, without the Spanish swag ha. Injury record is a concern though and I'm also sure Arsenal aren't prepared to part so a little redundant

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15 Jun 2015 01:03:09
Top talent but major issues over injuries and some issues over attitude also. More than one question mark against his name which makes it a big gamble.

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15 Jun 2015 07:18:33
I'm with gds and hb. Good player but schweini is twice the player. And as hb says, he's always injured.
Anon,good name or midfield addicts

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14 Jun 2015 19:53:04
Obviously most of the posts over the last couple of days have been about Harry, and I was trying to avoid creating another post about him, but I couldn't resist adding my view. Personally I think he's top player, his positioning, finishing, and passing are all great, and he's big and strong. However he isn't quick, and he isn't world class yet. So although I would like us to sign him, I wouldn't want us to pay more than £30m. For the £40m-£50m that we would most likely have to pay, I would want us to get either Benzema, Lewandowski, Cavani, Higuain or for £30m, Lacazette, Benteke, or even Falcao. Unpopular as this may be, I really like Falcao, and I would like nothing more than to see the best of him at United.

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14 Jun 2015 20:23:54
I think he is Quicker than he looks,

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14 Jun 2015 22:12:19
Rather have the Undertaker Kanes younger brother

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{Ed004's Note - The more I think of the idea of signing Kane the more I am for it. Firstly our club will have done in depth scouting reports and analysis of Kane and will hopefully be in a position to judge whether he will maintain this seasons form. Secondly he has scored all types of goals which is what we are desperately needing. There is also a problem of they're being few top strikers available and our current ones not being good enough IMO. I honestly do not think Rooney is clinical enough.

The main reason I want him though is that he appears to be LvG ideal type of striker for this team. He is capable of being an out ball from the back (reduces the need for Fellaini) and dangerous from set pieces and crosses from our wide players. We can replace Fellaini with a more creative player Ie Mata or a new signing. He works extremely hard for the team and works hard at his game something LvG seems to appreciate in a player. He is quick enough to play over the top and will offer a threat in behind opposition defences. His hold up play is very good and 31 goals after missing the first quarter of the season is very impressive.}

14 Jun 2015 22:38:05
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is that the same in depth scouting reports etc that we do on all the other players .
cos let's be honest not all of our signings have worked out .

i don't think we would make a move for him unless we thought there was a chance and both kane and spurs have said there is no chance.

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{Ed004's Note - there is no smoke without a fire. I'm not sure if there is anything in it or not but I would not be against the signing. Ideally we would sign Benzema. A front 3 of Di Maria/Mata (inform Di Maria), Kane and Depay could be brilliant}

14 Jun 2015 22:55:34
I would agree with your assessment ed004 but as jred says some of our other signings have been poor so not sure we can trust the scouts.

I agree with your assessment of him though, think he is going to be a top player, I really rate him though as I've made clear the last few days, but it's clear some are less taken by him.

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{Ed004's Note - Out of curiosity has LvG brought in new scouts?}

15 Jun 2015 01:11:20
Good post in terms of logic but I'm not sure about all those suggested names. Lewandowski or Lacazette (not even sure if they're available) would be great but the others are a bit hit or miss Imo.

Kane is a real 50/50 for me but the price tag is certainly off-putting.

The best place for him is at spurs for the next 2 seasons Imo.

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14 Jun 2015 19:25:45
The England Slovenia games illustrates the Rooney enigma perfectly. Yes, he scored the winning goal and 1 of the 3 he needs to become England's all-time top scorer, and yet he leaves us slightly disappointed because he should have scored 2 or 3 and put the game out of sight. Within the right set-up he has an instinct for being in the right place, but given that ability and the chances that have fallen to him over the years, one feels a truly top striker would have scored 60+ for his country by now.

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14 Jun 2015 19:54:44
and yet how many top strikers have scored 60 goals at international level.
8 goals in his last 10 games for england .
about to break a record that has stood more years.
more goals than lineker, owen ,shearer.

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14 Jun 2015 19:55:16
Took the words out of my mouth Shaw. Lots would say at United he is made to look poor due to not having chances created for him but today he had plenty and still frustrated. My main concern is that he gets dispossessed quite a lot and his first touch often deserts him. Can never question his work rate and appetite but without this leading to another debate cz people have read my opinion and it's not something I want to engage in but I feel united need a striker who can have just one chance and take it.
Separate note well done England, looking decent for the home nations this campaign.

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14 Jun 2015 20:45:45
It's getting ridiculous he is almost our all time top goalscorer and England all time top goalscorer and still people find something to whine about ! I suggest those who think he is not that great should look at the players whose records he is surpassing there are quite a few decent player's there for club and country.

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14 Jun 2015 21:07:40
Its scary to think how many goals Shearer would have scored for England had he played in this era and with such little competition for places!

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14 Jun 2015 21:57:24
What I would give to have a 23 year old Shearer leading the line.

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14 Jun 2015 22:00:48
shearer played in a very good england team .
30 goals over a 8 year period is decent is decent

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14 Jun 2015 22:31:45
Rooney is the one player we have that seems to be united through and through,he is still a top player and gives his all,he loves winning and plays for the shirt,a good pro,and so he should be all of these things the money he is getting,

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14 Jun 2015 22:57:47
Yes rooney was rubbish today, he also scored the winning goal in a 3-2 win after missing a few, some strikers would have snatched at that chance but he sent the keeper the wrong way like he has done a few times for us this season. The rooney hate is funny.

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14 Jun 2015 23:13:44
My initial point was that despite the fact that while Rooney will in all probability end up being United and England's top scorer, which in and of itself is an amazing achievement, one cannot help feeling there have been a number of missed opportunities which, if taken, would have put the debate about his greatness beyond doubt.

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14 Jun 2015 23:29:35
I don't hate Rooney ha, a tad strong, nor am I whining, I'm just summarising that out how he performed today is how he performs at club level which is sketchy especially his first touch, hassled out of possession etc. This was Slovenia not Spain, so my point is Rooney isn't clinical enough. I always say I don't doubt his commitment and attitude, that's first class, I just think United need a striker who is more clinical and doesn't need a few chances to score especially if we going to be playing with one up top. Yeah fair play to him tho he will surpass records and will go down as a great.

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15 Jun 2015 02:14:11
What do people want from Rooney 100 percent finishing, his goal record speaks for itself,

I would love to know how many games he has actually played up top and how many goals he has in them games when played as a striker,

For most of his united carer he has played anywhere but a striker, I can only remember 1 full season where he has played up top and he smashed it for us,

I don't get this whole Rooney isn't clinical, there's a reason he is about to become England's top goal scorer and it isn't becuase he isn't clinical.

Other than proberly Barcelona Rooney would easily walk into any team.

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{Ed007's Note - (clap)

15 Jun 2015 04:28:26
No matter how many goals Rooney scores, people will find reason to blame him .

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14 Jun 2015 19:11:06
Banter please

Hey everyone, i am new to posting but i have been reading for years, i just wanted to add something to the KANE situation

He has only had 1 season and the money quoted does seem alot, and that generally is the case for english players. Plus LEVVY knows he is in a good bargaining position, but sometimes you see a player and think 'he is a manchester united type of player'. I did when Rio FERDINAND moved to Leeds from West Ham, i said to myself he will eventually be a Manchester United player! and look how that turned out.

I see KANE as a Manchester United type of player, he reminds me a bit of RUUD Van Nistelrooy.

I think if we pay 25mil plus what ever in addons if win the league, cups etc. in the long run it will be worth it. Because let's face it and no disrespect to SPURS they ain't going to win the league anytime soon, KANE to united get maybe 10 years plus out of him mould him in the united way and will be great.

I hope this makes sense to people the way i have gone about this:)

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14 Jun 2015 19:22:07
For 25 million you will get 1 leg of Kane.

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14 Jun 2015 19:59:48
Thats why i said plus add ons, they prob add another 15mil per international caps, trophies etc.

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14 Jun 2015 22:59:03
He is pretty much the total opposite as a striker to Ruud van nistelrooy. I get what you mean about him seeming like a united player thiugh.

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14 Jun 2015 15:34:32
Hi guys, just thought I'd add in my opinion on the kane talk. I rate him highly, but not high enough to pay 40 million, it's because he's English his prince is hugely inflated. He's got all the tools to be a super player, but with a huge price tag, and the added pressure of being a united player, that could get to him and he could flop, I'd like him to have another season in the premier league with spurs to see how he does, then we should decide to go for him! But personally I'd rather we sign Lewandoski, the man is the complete article, he scored a great hat trick yesterday all be it against Georgia. But every time I watch him the way he creates chances in the box for himself is ridiculous, he is without doubt one of the best strikers in the world. I feel he is the man we should be targeting. My opinion of course, what does everyone else think?

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14 Jun 2015 15:42:20
Completely agree, Kane could be up there with lewandowski one day but as you said he's only had one good season and with all respect to spurs there's a lot more pressure playing for us. It would be wiser to pay a similar amount on lewandowski

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14 Jun 2015 16:39:21
Why would lewandowski leave byern

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14 Jun 2015 17:21:03
i would leave it at least another year before spending that amount on kane .

its not as if his price could go up any more

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14 Jun 2015 20:01:28
I would love United to sign Kane, but I wouldn't want them to pay any more than £30m. For £40-50m we could sign one of Lewandowski, Benzema, Higuain, or Cavani, or for £30m we could sign one of Falcao, Lacazette or Benteke. So basically for the £40-50m Kane would cost, we could get a better player, or for £10-20m less than Kane would cost, we could sign an equally good player. Give Kane another season at Spurs, if he scores another 30+ goals, then pay the £40-50m to sign him.

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14 Jun 2015 22:05:59
Of course lewandawaski will be great. But why would bayern sell him. Am i missing something?

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14 Jun 2015 22:28:48
Need to keep in mind the need for keeping the amount of foreign players in check. Plus Kane would prove to be a good investment at £40m, 4m per year if we kept him 10 yrs, compared with 10m maybe more per year for a lewandowski or cavani. It's not like he'll leave Spurs anyway so it's a moo point.

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14 Jun 2015 14:43:00
Just for those that don't know, man united legends vs bayern legends live on mutv now, scholsey is still a joy to watch, reckon he could still do a job in our midfield!

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14 Jun 2015 15:11:07
Fortune still has abit about him aswell.

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14 Jun 2015 15:21:23
They are playing the same way as they did when SAF managed them. I miss them days :(

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14 Jun 2015 15:26:15
What i would do for Stam back in his prime. Exactly what we need.

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14 Jun 2015 14:03:58
Hi Guys

I'm watching MUTV, the Legends game and Gordon McQueen has just said that there are rumours around that we have made a big money bid for Harry Kane.Watch this space.

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14 Jun 2015 16:53:58
Only just recovered from the excitement of Depay fest on YouTube yesterday, can't take a Kane fest as well in such a short timescale.

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14 Jun 2015 11:37:59
I'm guessing the plan is to contend for the league next season and put in a decent Champions League run (QF+), essentially put ourselves back on the map, so to speak!

Therefore, what do you think the minimum change we require would be? E.g. 1 top CB and 1 versatile CM, Otomendi and Schneiderlin perhaps.

Bare in mind I said the minimum and the above was only an example, not my personal answer to the question :)

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14 Jun 2015 12:06:05
Bale will win us the league

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14 Jun 2015 12:41:02
I totally agree with your first two but I'm not too sure that these alone will be the answers that we are looking for.

We have some issues at right back. Tony V, though a good stop gap, doesn't have the defensive qualities we need in that position. I'm a huge fan of Rafael although it seems that LVG is far from it. His tendency to get injured or sent off are probably the biggest factors in LVG devideing against the young Brazilian. The real issue is who can come in and sure up that position and improve our back four? For me, I would much prefer a PL player so we don't need to worry about a player getting used to the pace and physicality of our league. For me, Clyne, Coleman or janmaat in that order.

I feel we need to add a world class striker to our ranks. Last year one of the big differences for Chelsea and City was their main focal point up front. Both Aguero and Costa had fantastic seasons and looked dangerous EVERY time they were on the ball in the opponents final third. for us to have a similar impact I really feel we need a player whom has been playing in top leagues and internationally for a number of seasons. We would also benefit from some strength and possibly arial ability due to the likely hood of utilising our wingers more next season. For me, it would have to be one of either Lewandowski or Cavani. Both players are proven powerhouses when playing at the main focal point of a front three while still having a high technical ability and decent passing range. As a wild card, I would love to see Ibra at OT. I know, I know. He's a mercenary, he's getting on in his years but his arrogance and character remind me soo much of Eric Cantona.

Now, a new striker would be all well and good but there's a great big elephant in the room. Wayne Rooney. I think we would struggle to polite a top end striker to the club at the moment. LVG has already said that Rooney will be on the team sheet as he is captain. I'm sure this will put off some of the worlds best as they will worry they will spend more time watching from the dug out than playing the field.

If we are going to move closer to LVG's favoured 4-4-3 incorporating a deep midfielder or anchor, where would Rooney fit? In my eyes, Rooney is a much better number 10 than a 9 and is piss poor as a number 8.

Time will tell eh, fellas.

Mine.

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14 Jun 2015 12:57:04
I think it depends on how Rooney and rvp fare, if they can both stay fit and score around 35-40 goals between them then really we only need a cd like hummels and a cm like schneiderlin

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14 Jun 2015 13:06:54
I think Otamendi wil be signed for the CB spot . No idea about RB and CM but with depay and all those signings , title challenge can be surely done

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14 Jun 2015 13:10:27
I think bare minimum a top class centre half, a midfielder and a creative body further forward. So;
Otamendi, Gundagon and Firmino.
Play ADM and Depay wide with Firmino off Rooney, Herrera & Gundagon/Carrick in a midfield 2.
LVG likes versatile players to suit more than one formation so with these types of players they can slot in various positions further forward, wide or deeper. Plus our squad bulks out I.e Mata could be alternating with Firmino in the #10 role but also we could play 433 as we have players to slot in comfortably.

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14 Jun 2015 20:55:36
What did di Maria do last year to be in the team before mata and young?

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14 Jun 2015 22:38:14
I'd like one cb, either Laporte or Varane, an RB Clyne as a preference or Coleman. We need two CM, Schneiderlin and Gundogan please, last but not least a striker, so I'd like Benzema but would take Kane.

I also think RVP will leave, Januzaj should play more often and I'd keep McNair playing and promote him to 3rd CB above Jones but behind Smalling.

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14 Jun 2015 10:53:51
Continuing a little debate on a player we've actually signed, what are your expectations from depay in the first season? I think he should do really well, especially with his upper body strength and pace.

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14 Jun 2015 11:28:57
I have high hopes that he'll become a fantastic player for us. He'll show some brilliant things and will do frustrating things but he will get more consistent. He also has the build to succeed in the Premier League. He's quick and stocky a bit like Hazard that way and he has good balance. I'm really looking forward to seeing him play next season.

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14 Jun 2015 12:29:16
Like Rjmanutd says, think it will be somewhat a rollercoaster season for him. But he with no doubt the talent and the physics, but hopes he has the same curve as Hazard has had since he arrived at the bridge.

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14 Jun 2015 12:38:29
I just hope he is given the license to try things. We were far too safe last season, I'd hate to see him stifled.

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14 Jun 2015 12:57:59
I hope we just start him most games and tell him to enjoy himself, just tell him to run at people and he'll be a hit

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14 Jun 2015 19:43:26
I remember ed002 saying something about his him not being ready for a big team and that he would be better getting used to the prem at a smaller club, the premier league is very tough I think a lot of foreign player and coaches underestimate how hard away games at smaller clubs can be! But I hope he has the mentality to cope and be a hit.

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14 Jun 2015 10:01:54
Can any of the Edds inform me who's a realistic target for us this summer two much lazy journalism out there cheers!

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14 Jun 2015 10:48:23
Also to many lazy posters. RTFP!

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13 Jun 2015 23:55:22
The papers are reporting that united are in for Ramos, I mean honesty? I find that extremely unlikely. However that's 5 of RM's starting 11 we've been linked to now perhaps they're going for the full set?

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14 Jun 2015 09:06:40
Heard we are going for Florentino Pérez and Rafa Benitez next. Will be fun to have them at the club too.😃

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14 Jun 2015 09:13:05
And that's a FACT

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14 Jun 2015 10:15:51
Luke

When a player wants a pay rise, our supposed interest is trotted out, probably by the agent to help negotiations move along. Alves was never going to leave Barca and let me guess, is Ramos by chance in pay negotiations with Real?

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14 Jun 2015 10:27:55
I wish our club would just come out and deny the links to these players after better contracts maybe then other agents would stop publicly using our brand to try to better their players contracts.

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14 Jun 2015 11:21:37
Like RedMan has stated its all about him getting a new deal at Real Madrid.

He has two years left on his current deal and his agent and brother has come out and said that he doesn't know if Ramos will finish his career at Real, and that the club haven't yet approached them about an extension.

This is a typical Sergio want's a pay rise and a longer deal article.

Look at it this way Real have three main centre backs, Ramos who is 29, Pepe who is 32 and Varane who is 22.

Now there have been suggestions that Varane might leave and if he does Real want Laporte. But Laporte is the only CB Real have been linked with and only as a replacement for Varane.

Pepe has a season or two left at most, so why would they sell their key CB in Ramos?

So expect Ramos to have a new deal by Christmas, with him coming out and saying that Real are the only club for him and he never considered leaving.

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14 Jun 2015 17:29:22
Rohanarora I was being disingenuous

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13 Jun 2015 23:53:14
Seems to have gone very quiet on the Nathaniel Clyne front regarding his contract negotiation and potential suitors. With varying reports the saints are fighting for right back from Lisbon Cedric, anybody else think that a deal for Clyne to come to OT may already be done, just waiting on Southampton to tie up a replacement?

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13 Jun 2015 23:46:06
There was a debate in Irish TV after the match,are young players being over coached,there are no good young Irish players coming through,I've seen Robbie Brady playing football At St Kevin's when he was underage,he stood out big time I honestly though he would be better than duff,then he started getting coached and told he had to play a certain way,I saw him playing with freedom and he was taking players on creating chances for forward players,I was excited for the boy when United signed him,but he didn't make it and was left go and rightly so,what the debate was about should young players have freedom teach themselves on the street,some countries in Europe not sure which ones don't over coach them when they are young,if they have ability you have to let them bring it out of themselves,I mean you can't teach a messi to do what he can do or a scholes,when they are 12,13,14 up to 18 they have to be left express themselves and bring out the natural talent,I see it every week young players being over coached

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14 Jun 2015 01:25:01
I think Januzaj is a prime example this season Leahy. Good point mate.

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14 Jun 2015 07:03:54
You have a point Leahy. What you don't have are any full stops.

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14 Jun 2015 14:43:06
Robbin Brady is one of the best crossers of a ball in the league

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13 Jun 2015 23:45:22
We must have been linked with upwards of 100 players now. It's become a pretty boring saga where overpaid journalists are just clutching at straws attempting to sell papers/generate hits. In truth no one knows exactly who's on the shopping list aside from LVG and Ed W. We know the positions we need to fill and I'm sure they'll be filled by capable players in due course. Time for the daily 'United agree terms with. ' rumours to stop (I'm looking at you Metro)

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