Manchester United Banter Archive April 15 2015

15 Apr 2015 22:40:45
Ed 002, would it be possible for United to get Falcao on loan again. Monaco don't have the funds to pay his wages, so they have to get rid.
No top Premier League team will take him after his "disastrous" spell in the prem. Interest from abroad seems unlikely as Bayern have Lewandowski, Real fans are finally starting to accept Benzema, Juve have Tevez and Barca cannot buy.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

16 Apr 2015 07:11:05
Although he hasn't done near enough to justify us buying him , we can't control where he goes and I've still got this bit of a fear that he'll end up at one of our pl rivals and score goals for fun

16 Apr 2015 11:28:50
I have confidence that if he started up top now he would perform much better. The trouble is he was playing with a lazy RVP and the whole team were out of sorts. Now we seem to have clicked I bet he would get goals for fun, but alas we will not see it. Rooney has to start up front and trying to accommodate Falcao will be the least of LVG's worries currently.

Falcao suffered because the team was awful when he was given his few fleeting chances.

16 Apr 2015 11:44:33
For once in my life I agree with Beast. I think he struggled in a struggling team, and playing 10 minutes here and there will never bring the best out of him. I have no doubt whichever club he moves to he will be a 25 goal striker again. I hope it's not in the EPL!

16 Apr 2015 12:19:59
I personally think he hasn't been good enough when he has been given chances. Players on that sort of cash should be providing something special every other week and Falcao has simply not delivered. Yes I think there is still a good player in there somewere but to take a chance and sign him up or even loan him for another season would be finaiacial suicide.

Best of luck across the continent Radamel.

15 Apr 2015 21:33:35
Barcelona Master class. Picked them to win it all and not one person here agreed with me. Best team in Europe and in some ways better than the Barcelona teams we came up against.

15 Apr 2015 21:39:13
They were very good although UEFA need to deal with Messi as I'm not sure you are allowed to tie the ball you our foot with a piece of string. That Suarez is some player isn't he? Have you seen the Bayern result, losing 3-1 at Porto. Interesting night

15 Apr 2015 21:48:34
Dont rule out Porto after that performance.

15 Apr 2015 21:54:17
Klopp and Pep could both be looking for new jobs in the summer

15 Apr 2015 22:02:13
Shahram my friend, I agreed with you about Barca :). On a side note, without trying to stir the hornet's nest, how can anyone dispute Messi's status as the best player in the world?

Deeps.

15 Apr 2015 22:13:12
That really did make me laugh out loud GCU. I know you like to say "I told you so" , but after you trying to tell me that you were the only one on the whole site that fancied Barca to win in? Wow , that is some claim. Were you the only one to pick Germany for the World Cup too? :)
Joking aside , they haven't won it yet though. But just for the record , I do fancy the best player in the World , bar none , to lead them to the trophy. So that'd 3 of us (inc. Deeps) lol.

15 Apr 2015 22:24:39
Betty, say something funny man! It's been way too long. Infact even AJH and the great Danny aren't turning up either :(

Deeps.

16 Apr 2015 00:41:25
I think someone has found the correct half time oranges for Messi again.

{Ed007's Note - Are you saying Richard Ashcroft was wrong? (giggle)

16 Apr 2015 02:11:55
This Barca team is not as good as the 2008-2011 one.

16 Apr 2015 06:34:12
Deep

He is a class apart from everyone else and never seen anything like him. Can make worldly defenders and CM look like monkeys lol.

Gagus

They are better as they have Suarez and Neymar on each side and are so much more faster and direct when they want to be. They have really clicked since Feb and one of those teams that can put a hiding at any moment on anyone. Scary good, complete domination of midfield and those 3 upfront is usually a good recipe.

AJH

I would not be surprised to see Bayern turn that deficit over as the goals they conceded were extremely poor and very unlike them. I did not watch the whole game and only saw highlights.

I think the Madrid return fixture will be interesting :)

16 Apr 2015 09:41:32
Betty

When I posted I had like 10 disagrees and not one agree LOL. I really don't know how you defend against their print 3 with the midfield that sits behind them. Scary team.

No I actually had Argentina winning it and wit a healthy Aguero and Dimaria believe they would have :))

16 Apr 2015 06:12:48
Are you referring to a particular song bond? Because if so yes.

{Ed007's Note - Yet Messi is held up as a role model for kids, all that hard work Zammo done years ago flushed down the pan.}

16 Apr 2015 13:54:01
Zammo! That made me chuckle. I know what you mean though bond as you know regarding some of my old posts. It's not just him though. There are quite a few but he is the stand out, in your face example.

15 Apr 2015 17:04:31
Just out of curiosity ed002, you have said that LVG could still be replaced this summer. Despite how we are now finishing the season. You say it depends on various things. Would Klopp leaving have any kind of knock on effect? I'm sure I read we were interested in him before we took a chance on Moyes. Would we be interested again as he's now available? Or maybe he might end up in Madrid for instance and Ancelotti becomes available? I know Citeh will be getting a new manager and this might be way off the mark. Just wondering? Personally I along with GDS have defended LvG all season and I think he should be given the term of his contract as we are moving in the right direction . Thanks

{Ed002's Note - Not everything involves Manchester United.}

15 Apr 2015 21:32:19
A change of United manager generally does.

15 Apr 2015 13:49:54
Hi Ed's

Not really a MU question but was the news about Klopp leaving a shock to everyone as the media is reporting or was this well known to be coming in footballing circles?

{Ed002's Note - You need to be asking these sorts of questions on the European pages.}

15 Apr 2015 17:09:09
Everyone excited about the possibility of signing Hummels. I rate him but not sure as much as other people. His pace worries me, having said that Vidic was never quick, or terry but positioning is key. But as I've said a few time Verane would be my first choice. If not him maybe someone like Otemendi or Godin. Would love Carvahal at RB too.

15 Apr 2015 16:06:11
Just thought I'd raise an issue about the 'forgotten' man Januzaj. What does the future hold for him and is it at Manchester United?

I can see him being loaned out next season what with competition from Di Maria, Mata, Young and potentially also Depay who will be expecting game time. Where does Januzaj fit in to this United team?

15 Apr 2015 16:22:03
Not sure what his plans are, I don't see him at City though, possibly Liverpool who I think will bin Rodgers at the end of the year.

15 Apr 2015 16:23:03
I think he was very bad in the 1st half of the season but then most of the team was.

In the 2nd half of the season though I think he has been good in attack whenever he has played. Yes his decision making has been bad on few occasions but that happens with ADM as well.

IF we do sign Depay and keep ADM then loaning him would make sense. Apparently Everton is interested in him and that could be a good club for him to develop but I would prefer a Europa League club as he would then get good amount of playing time.

15 Apr 2015 17:04:21
My plan for Januzaj would have to be to go to Southampton on loan for the season as part of the Clyne deal (and include Hernandez) which would mean minimal cash would need to change hands. But, the relationship between LVG and Koeman would prevent this whilst a move to Spurs would be too much like giving a potential title rival a boost.

15 Apr 2015 17:38:49
I like the way your thinking there Fresh but seriously, Koeman would probably rather push LVG off the highest building he could find then do a deal with him.

15 Apr 2015 15:00:33
Lots of talk of 5 or 6 new signings for next year but I worry this is too many. We are being very successful right now playing 2 of the 5 we signed last year. Happy to strengthen the squad but I don't think we want more than 3 players who might go straight into the 1st team. Any more and it would be disruptive and like starting again. We have seen from other teams that mass influxes can be a real problem. The most likely ones are RB, CB, CM as starters with possible wide player and forward as squad players. Just my view of course

{Ed004's Note - I would agree. I think a top right back to replace Valencia and a top top cb and we will have the makings of a great defence. Di Maria will eventually show his class and replace Young and then we should sign someone to replace Fellaini who would still be an important player for us just not a garunteed starter. Then the following season look at replacing Carrick and Rooney/RVP}

15 Apr 2015 15:20:33
Well said, consistency is king

15 Apr 2015 15:32:05
I also agree AJH but people will tend to expect the world when posting on here, it is just how it works. I have yet to see a long list from Fresh including Ronaldo yet so I assume that is to come ;) (love you Fresh).

The rebuild started last year and LVG actually did very well with the signings made, they were 'United class' something some of the signings have not been in recent years. This will be topped up this year with a few new signings but we are by no means in desperate need for signings like we were at the beginning of last summer and the summer before.

I think we would challenge for the league with the team we have now to be honest, so an extra 3 or 4 world class signings and we would have a fantastic chance next season. We know we have the funds available so I think the summer needs to be 'quality over quantity' when it comes to signings.

15 Apr 2015 15:47:12
Exactly the same view as me. I don't want 6-7 players , just 3 top top ones possibly 4

{Ed004's Note - Out of curiosity would people prefer a striker brought in ahead of a winger? Depay seems a very likely signing and he is one of those that has the potential to be a top player. This is kind of like déjà Vu. We missed out on Hazard years ago and regretted it since. However, we have Mata and Di Maria for first choice wide players and both are world class. Mata has been fantastic lately and Di Maria was in the top 5 players in the world last season. Then for cover we have Young and Januzaj who needs game time. Whereas up top we will be left short if Falcao leaves, RVP is sold or doesn't find his form from past seasons and Hernandez goes. But if you buy a top striker Rooney is dropped into midfield probably at the expense of Herrera again and that's not something I want to see. But if Rooney gets injured I don't trust our other striking options atm}

15 Apr 2015 15:58:01
I think a serious problem is the amount of players whose contracts run out 2016. We will see a lot go this summer and we will also have Europe to contend with, unfortunately 5-6 players will be needed just so we can compete on both fronts.

15 Apr 2015 15:59:04
I totally agree, the team that we have put out in the last few games has been incredibly effective. As the ed said, Di Maria will eventually come in to replace Young who will be a rotation option (a very good option). The back line is where the most serious concerns lie, Valencia has performed admirably and Rafael is out of favour so a new right back such as Clyne is a necessity. Also I still have my doubts over Jones. Hummels alongside Smalling would be my first choice pair with Rojo and Jones back up. The midfield of Herrera, Carrick and Fellaini has worked really well, but I think Fellaini will lose his place in the side to a striker like Cavani who will remain to be a handful due to their size but will also have the striker's role come more naturally to them. Apart from that I think we are good, we will probably see Depay come in, but not as a starter.

15 Apr 2015 16:15:27
Touch wood rooney seems to stay fit thankfully so i'd be happy with him as main man up top with cover in the form of wilson and ings seems very possible (both good young players to grow into a 1st regular) and we have other players in the team that can add to the goal, mata has a good record, ander is showing he can be double figures goal scorer from the mid field also and when di maria is on form he can put it on a plate for them and fellani in the air! And depay is showing clear goal scoring ability! So go for the needed RB And CB for the 1st and then a winger, CM and striker for the squad

15 Apr 2015 16:20:44
Ed004, if it was a striker or Depay I'd go with Depay. I think he's shown enough that he could in a couple of years time be a player who scores 15/20 a season from a wide area like Hazard or Sanchez in a top league. While our striking options would not be ideal if Rooney got injured I feel Depay is going to be too good to miss out on. If we secure him he could be a massive part of the future of our team over the next 10 years.

Just out of curiosity Ed004 what would you prefer and what striker would you want if you are replacing RVP and Falcao?

{Ed004's Note - I would probably opt for a winger but would worry about Januzaj's development. Maybe he is due a loan to a premiership side like Everton who plays good football and will be losing a few wide options in the summer. I would keep RVP for a season, however, he is on big wages and might not want to be a squad player just yet. Apparently Vietto has a cheap buyout clause under 20 million euros so could be affordable or maybe Ings if we want to be greedy and get a winger and a striker. Leave the striker position for Rooney next season giving more game time to Wilson and maybe Ings. I can't think of any top strikers available except maybe Lacazette}

15 Apr 2015 16:45:04
A midfielder, a CB and a RB should be priority.
But we already have a good RB in Rafael, I can't believe we are not giving him more chances.

15 Apr 2015 17:16:40
I think Depay could play as a striker or on the left . Falcao, Hernandez and possibly van Persie will leave, so he will be good back up,and competition,for Rooney, Di Maria, Young. He's got a sweet right foot and he does look like he could be a very good player.

15 Apr 2015 16:20:58
Don't forget Shaw will also likely settle and be a regular starter. As for ADM I'm not convinced by him and not sure he really wants to be here, no facts, just a gut feel. I'd like Wilson to get more game time and hopefully Adnan pushes on as well but if Depay p is available then I think we need to buy him. As you say, if RVP and Falcao both go then we will be light up front so may need to also add a striker.

{Ed004's Note - thats why I was suggesting affordable targets such as Ings and Vietto}

15 Apr 2015 18:12:49
AJH
I agree about ADM, I also get the vibes that he don't want to be here, IF that's the case then we have to let him go.

15 Apr 2015 16:38:43
@Ed004

Our priority should be a CB, RB, CM and a winger who can chip in with goals and could be something special in potential.

I don't think we should buy another top striker if we are going to stick to the current formation of playing just one striker. A backup striker like Ings is what we need. We also have Wilson who I have a lot belief in. I definitely wouldn't spend a huge fortune on Cavani (good player, but will go for almost twice his real value). Pogba too, good player, but way overpriced imo. Rather go for Vidal/Gundogan.

Also, looking at Depay's goalscoring record this season at PSV, he looks certain to chip in with a few goals if played regularly. Herrera is starting to score too. Fellaini chips in with his fair share and given gametime so will Di Maria and Mata.

The key to this formation is one top striker playing regularly and in form going to 30-35 goals in the season and who also brings others into play and creates space for them (Rooney is probably the most ideal striker to do that). Goals from midfield and in general all over the pitch is what the 4-3-3 Philosophy is all about.

{Ed004's Note - I agree with everything you have said except for the Pogba comment. If there was one player we could sign this summer (bar Ronaldo and Messi) I would pick him. He is the ideal midfield signing to replace Fellaini. One thing I noticed while watching him play this season is how much he drifts out wide because Juventus play a diamond formation. It would give us the fluidity to have him and Di Maria (Di Maria replacing Young in the current system and Pogba replacing Fellaini) swapping positions and would add even more to our attack. I would be delighted if you offered me Coleman, Hummels and Pogba right now. I feel it would leave us with the best first 11 in the league. Then the following summer if Wilson still isn't ready sign a top striker and Carrick replacement. I think Smalling is finally starting to fulfil his potential, Shaw is a top talent and will be better next season after a proper pre season. Mata and Herrera are brilliant together while we can all see the class of Carrick (Blind will cover for him so we can manage Carrick's game time properly), Di Maria is a top player and Rooney is our captain and is finally being played in his proper position}

15 Apr 2015 19:19:49
Absolutely impeccable taste Ed.

15 Apr 2015 22:22:10
Depay has been World Player of the year for the last three seasons in my latest FM game, regularly chipping in with 20 goals a season and 30/40 assists. Just saying, like.

Januzaj was runner-up in the most recent one as well, so we can't let him go. Get the wee 15 year old at RM in too on loan. What a front three behind the striker, with Isco and Mata to rotate.

Wee buns, I tell you.

15 Apr 2015 11:14:34
Ed do we have interest in Koke? You said in January we didn't but I have seen on a post recently someone asked you if 'our interest in him had gone' and you said 'no'.

{Ed002's Note - You have misread something.}

15 Apr 2015 12:10:58
13 Apr 2015 19:13:01
Hi Eds

Has MU interest in Koke and Pogba now gone?
ne99il
{Ed002's Note - No and no.}


This is the post I am referring to Ed002.

{Ed002's Note - Koke is of no interest. Pogba will not be moving to MU. That should be clear.}

15 Apr 2015 12:48:56
JMB you are too thirsty mate just wait until the summer and see :)

15 Apr 2015 13:07:12
I thought the post meant . Has the interest in these players gone and you have said no. Maybe I have just misinterpreted.

15 Apr 2015 14:38:29
To be fair JMB that's how I interpreted it too. As after all that is what it says

15 Apr 2015 11:09:01
Acording to papers klop has told dortmund he wants to leave at the end of the season

15 Apr 2015 09:55:59
Vidal was awesome last night please go and get him

15 Apr 2015 13:24:13
Who, me?