Manchester United Banter Archive August 16 2015

 

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16 Aug 2015 22:05:10
If otimendi goes to city and is every bit as solid as he is meant to be are all the lvg lovers on here going to be at least a little bit annoyed he didn't want him?

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16 Aug 2015 23:20:16
Its obvious Blind cannot do what's he been doing all season. But, wasn't LVG slated on here for playing him there? And now we have two clean sheets with good defensive performances. LVG doesn't believe in a one star man defense, he says all the time the team defends as a whole, and we have seen we are compact. It could be worrying on set pieces. But, don't forget Rojo. He will come back soon. We do need a CB (I think so) to fill up both number wise and quality wise at the back.

I certainly don't question LVG judgment's on players. Its hilarious (to me) to even try to do that. He might put a foot wrong sometimes because you can't really predict with players. For crying out loud, Mangala was deemded to be such a loss to City last season. How did that pan out?

But, I do agree Otamendi seems to be a brilliant defender.

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16 Aug 2015 23:28:24
Yes, I agree! Can't believe we aren't sending ed Woodward to Valencia with 35 million in cash, 500 red roses and a box of after-eights to get this otamendi fella who nobody had heard about til June! We should all build a big scarecrow of van gaal out of sticks and cabbages, set it alight, get it on a plane and fly it over old Trafford on tues night. What better way to support the club we love eh?

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16 Aug 2015 23:33:41
I wonder whether LvG has realised our need for a stiker outweighs our need for a central defender.

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16 Aug 2015 23:38:15
talk of mangala on loan the other way! We can't offer that but still could of been done at beginning of transfer window. judging by early form the addition of the midfield reruits and darmian and rejuvenated shaw will definantly help our cbs and make them look better then they are! making for me the st situation more crucial.

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17 Aug 2015 09:28:02
I'm not sure I've actually seen any 'LVG' lovers on this site. There seems to be two camps - Those who actively dislike him, and those who support him as the manager. I'm yet to see a single person on here talking about how great he is etc.

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16 Aug 2015 21:50:14
I know we all know we need a centre-back, predominantly a left-sided one at that. Chris "Mike" Smalling has been bearable for the past few seasons, but in our opening two games this season he has seemingly stepped up and been a leader within the back line, and IMO hasn't put a foot wrong (Yet). I believe this may well be down to the signing of Matteo Darmian, as he tends to defend the inside before the outside first off, giving Smalling great cover.

Blind, although he surely can't be our left-sided defender for the season, has done well in his first two games, mainly because he hasn't been noticed for putting a foot wrong. I worry when we come up against a team which boasts a striker along the lines of Aguero, Costa, and even Benteke, will he struggle? I hope not, as he may be best off challenging with postional senses, rather than aerial, or strength based defending, will be done for pace if he gets beat, although Smalling, Shaw and Darmian could well be enough to cover this.

Otamendi - a six foot bruiser, who seems to be off to City. Technical ability? Not the best, so is he needed for £30m when we have our very own six foot four bruiser in Smalling? I'm not so sure.

I wonder whether LvG has realised that our dying need for a striker has won over our need for a left-sided defender. I think with the addition of our midfield signings, and Darmian, we will be ok in defensive terms. Scoring goals will be our main problem, with Rooney seemingly having tightened up like a fishing knot. Can he be dropped having been named LvG's captain? Yes, it and certainly wouldn't be the first time LvG has done this, being part of his nature to do things others wouldn't have the Rolling Stones to do.

The problem may then become that there is nobody out there available that can do for us, what Aguero showed today he can do for City. Lukaku, Lewandowski? May well be available, but could they do that? Unfortunately, not in my opinion, however they would still be a welcome addition to the team, as they are both two players who make Rooney look like an Amateur League player.

Looks like Pedro will be on his way in, although he reportedly has concerns over LvG's treatment of Valdes and De Gea, which is IMO being made up by the papers as they can't become repetitive whilst the deal is being held up. Do we need him? I'm not so sure, I'd personally prefer to make use of Januzaj and Pereira instead, as I firmly believe these two have more than enoug potential to become much better players than Pedro has ever been.

At rhe end of the day, there is only so much that can be done within one transfer window, and only so many players can be bedded into a team in one period, and I think we are very close to breaching that limit. Who knows what will happen, and here's to being top of the table at the end of the season 🍻

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17 Aug 2015 01:14:25
Mpez. Our net transfer dealings are nil. And it was well advertised that United had £150m to spend. So we have plenty of money to spend on cb and striker.
I totally disagree on your views of lewandawaski. He'll be every bit as good a Aguero. But he's a different type of striker. If we buy him, we could contend for 2nd or 3rd place. If we don't, then 4th is the best we can hope for.
Rooney looks totally burnt out as I said from day one, we're seriously under stocked in that department. We might need not one but two strikers.

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17 Aug 2015 07:46:48
We will be closer to the top of the league than people think. If we had a striker like lewandowski we would surely be competing for the top spot, I have no doubt about that.

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17 Aug 2015 13:16:32
I don't doubt Lewandowski would improve us, but he isn't close to Aguero.

Sergio Aguero is on another level to any striker in the world, I'd argue that Barca would prefer him over Suarez, as he is the only one that comes close.

Man City are a very lucky team to have him with Silva in behind.

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16 Aug 2015 21:40:20
Up to the heady heights of 44th in the fantasy league we're all in with Benteke as captain to play.

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16 Aug 2015 21:22:47
Fair play to the young lad sterling. Keeping is head down and playing his game. Sent Ivanonvic for a hot dog many times today with his pace. Hope Memphis can make the same type of effect for us.

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16 Aug 2015 22:39:38
If we close the window without adding to our Defence we will not win the league, it's that simple.
We have a lot of boxes in this window but failed to resolve key issues like a CB and a striker.
All other signings have been good but with the De Gea situation and lack of a striker it looks as though it's two steps forward two back.
I would like to know if we were ever in for Otamendi or just got distracted again by a big name signing in Ramos, who used us as others have. Otamendi will do well I am sure.
I hope we are in for Laporte but I think he will go to Barca in time.

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16 Aug 2015 21:20:32
Just watched a video of Rooney in his pomp. It's easy to forget how much of a special talent he was. He was just so explosive he scored amazing goals frequently he could beat a Man easily his touch was great he would of frightened the life out of a defence when running at them. He also had a temper to go with it which you don't see much of anymore a lot of what he did was instinctive like he played angry he was superb to watch. The video reminded me of how excited I used to get when he got the ball and how I always wanted the team to get the ball to him he was that good.

So why such a decline at only 29? He still can produce the occasional bit of something the odd great goal and so on, he had the potential to be one of the best in the world maybe 5 years ago he was one of the best. This is no knee jerk reaction to 2 bad performances he's not near the level he once was. Am I being harsh? I don't think so! What the people see the future hold for him? He will go down a club legend imo but he could of been one of the best ever for us, he should break the Goalscoring record. His request to leave tarnished his standing with a lot of fans. He's now the captain is he good enough for that?

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16 Aug 2015 21:59:13
I think he was like the lad at school who went through puberty before most of the rest and thus he is ageing quicker. Or he may even hold an African passport and he is in fact 39.

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16 Aug 2015 22:07:59
I think he overplayed when he was young and he didn't look after himself fitness wise compared to the ronaldo and Messis of this world.

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16 Aug 2015 22:18:48
I watched loads of old games during the summer break, and yes Rooney was formidable. World class at his best. Yes he's not the same player as he was 3 years ago, but some of the criticism on here is unwarranted. People saying he's never been top quality, and to get shot of him must have forgotten all of the things he's done for us, he's been a top player for us for years, and won us many trophies, and I for one am sick to death of coming on here day after day reading the same rehashed debate. he's a United player, so get over it, and support the lad untill he isnt.

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16 Aug 2015 22:45:12
I got to agree with u GD.

I was saying to my mate today when Rooney was a teen and into his 20s he stood out on the pitch by a mile. Rooney was a much better player than Ronaldo when he signed for the club. Ronaldo was very inconsistent for the first 3 years where as Rooney looked a beast.

My opinion is he doesn't have the fitness or energy to be that explosive player anymore as he simply hasn't worked that hard to keep In shape. Rooney should have been world player of the year material so for all his qualities has underachieved and I feel this could be his last year at the club.

Also I think as he came on the scene so young and playing regularly at 16 he's In a different situation to most players who become regulars at maybe 20/21. You do tend to see It a lot when players burst on the scene at such a young age and its almost asif he's at the level of a 34 year old now, where he is past his best and lost His pace. His decline has been alarming In the last couple of years

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17 Aug 2015 07:48:43
It's not even his fitness lads. His overall game, touch, skill, the brash confidence. I watched a video too GD, the decline is frightening.

I think confidence plays a massive part. If he was able to bang in a few goals in the next few games you might just see an upturn and a bit of that old swagger back

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17 Aug 2015 10:16:55
I'm lucky to know quite a few professional sports people (different shaped ball). All of them highlight their fitness levels as on of if not the most important factors as when a peak physical fitness people tend to be of higher confidence and their mental speed on the pitch is better.

Rooney is suffering for being a poor professional, he peaked at 26 and has had a very quick demise. A hole highlighted this a year or two ago. Also SAF could see it coming, his performances were getting lower (by his standards) and you could see he. Started carrying far to much body fat by his lack of muscle tone.

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16 Aug 2015 20:18:46
Come on here tonight for my usual nightly United fix and it seems the whole site has a massive boner for City.
Funny that.

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16 Aug 2015 21:14:32
Disgraceful to be honest we have a site where everyone slags off manchester united and raves about city get behind your team boys couldn't care less about those blue noses.

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16 Aug 2015 21:18:33
Like Moyesey had? lol

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17 Aug 2015 01:18:03
Why is it disgraceful? They're a hold team and us United fans know when to applaud a good team.

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17 Aug 2015 07:57:47
Schmidfield, there becomes a point where the city fans will see our page and be mistaken for there own, I appreciate good football too and although they are playing well there is a line we don't need to cross. If people are going to bash us after 2 imperfect wins but salavate over our big rivals then who is it they are supporting?

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17 Aug 2015 08:39:00
Don't get me wrong, I'm more than happy to applaud decent football but stop with this City love-in. I'd rather talk about Leicester with their attacking, free flowing football 😊

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16 Aug 2015 20:01:31
Watched the City vs Chelsea game earlier and couldn't believe how much better then Chelsea they were. It also highlighted the difference in quality between us and them in the attacking 3rd. Aguero is miles ahead of Rooney. I've defended him in the past but even I'll admit he's way past it now and we definitely need a striker to come in asap. My choice would be Mueller as if Wazza starts proving everyone wrong there's other positions that he is very capable of playing.

Also if De Bruyne is available and we are looking for a replacement for ADM then surely he would be a better option then an ageing and physically weak Pedro. Not saying De Bruyne is the strongest but he's less likely to get bullied then the little spaniard and he's a massive improvement on Young or anything else we have. And if we have to pay a little more to keep him from the reaches of Citeh then we must to start closing the gap, (in quality).

Obviously we need to sort CB as well but I honestly think that our complete lack of creativity is a bigger problem atm.

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16 Aug 2015 20:37:12
is it not a wee bit early to be making a judgement .
chelsea where the best team in the league last year , they won't become a bad team after 2 games.
they also had the best attack , but if you compare it to city today costa and co looked average.

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16 Aug 2015 20:58:32
Good post mate. I'm too not so keen on Pedro, l just view him as lightweight good player non the less. Rooney needs serious competition right now.

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16 Aug 2015 21:12:58
Aging? Bloody hell he's 27.

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16 Aug 2015 21:34:31
Listen longsightred and Joe our problem is with teams who want to sit in and defend not the top 4 teams who want to try n attack I'm confident well beat them like we did last year and as for pedro he is gonae be one of those signings like sanchez u want realise how good he Is until he leaves barca .

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16 Aug 2015 19:50:53
Do we often put buy back clauses into the younger players we sell on? I only ask as Michael Keane seems to be progressing well at Burnley?

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16 Aug 2015 21:57:01
Progressing? He got relegated and is now playing in the championship. How is that progression?

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17 Aug 2015 11:04:55
Ask Pogba Ronnie

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16 Aug 2015 19:45:09
At least you can add Oatamendi to the growing list of defenders turning you down, but you keep on saying everyone wants to join you and you are a massive club then again these are comedy pages.

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16 Aug 2015 20:20:27
Oh how painful it must be for you to be nothing more than a hyped up Mid-table team.

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16 Aug 2015 20:41:42
Isn't it past your bedtime young man I know its the summer holidays but really.

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16 Aug 2015 20:38:00
Shame your old man never turned your mum down 12 years ago.

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16 Aug 2015 21:03:32
We were never after Oatamendi, we were after Barleyamendi.

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16 Aug 2015 21:16:11
Who was the last big name you signed mighty reds?

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16 Aug 2015 21:18:07
Whereas Glen Johnson has got the dream move that he wanted, to a bigger side!

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16 Aug 2015 19:42:09
I replied in a similar manor down below, first post in a while.

Under Fergie we had probably 3 world beating sides, 8 best league side and some very unlucky sides.

The best games I remmeber we played, we came from behind, playing the worst of the two sides.

We certainly didn't buy galaticos. We made them.

WERE NEVER ENVIOUS.

The great man retired, there was one before him hopefully more after him.

But let's not be jelous of others.

On Rooney, if you hate him cause he reportedly wanted to leave. Keane, Giggs, Rio, Robbo all did the same in my lifetime let's not be judgemental. He gives all, is it his fault he hasn't been supported???

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16 Aug 2015 20:52:41
Rooney just isn't good enough anymore. Take away all the history, the brand etc, just judge him on performances over the past 18 months, no excuses, just judge him as a player playing football and he simply is a passenger most games and a hindrance in some. Never has he been the positive difference in recent memory. Yet his pay, his stature and treatment indicates he is a key player. He really isn't, that is why I have an issue.

I don't like what he did with the contract, but we aren't privy to all the ins and outs of the politics. All we know for sure is how players perform and he has been sub par for far too long.

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16 Aug 2015 21:14:51
Completely, utterly and totally 100% agree with beast.

Now I need a lie down.

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16 Aug 2015 21:31:34
He may not be but he's the best option we have.

My mates cars better than mine his Mrs is younger than its irrelevant because I'm a united fan he's a city fan.

I win.

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16 Aug 2015 21:32:04
You're wrong beast
Its been more than 18 months

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16 Aug 2015 21:39:22
I agree 100% with you there beast.

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17 Aug 2015 07:50:08
Agree 1000 percent beast. I've a headache now

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16 Aug 2015 19:28:51
So I've only messaged once before but I thought i'd give my views.

People keep mentioning that we are playing defensive.

last season we had a rubbish midfield and the first thing that's been done is 2 good strong midfielder's.

then add Darmian to the list and a new keeper in Romero.

now that's 3 defensive players and a GK.

We have signed only depay going forward and let go of falcao and RVP. that's a winger for 2 strikers that in their time were brilliant scorers. Depay is only young and new he needs to find his feet.

We have 2 clean sheets and 2 wins.

Ok we have not been great going forward but right now we don't have the attacking players because rooney up front alone should not happen anymore. We need a proper goalscoring centre forward.

the fact we have 2 clean sheets after defensive reinforcements to me would mean great business so far because to pick up 2 wins with no real efforts going forward i'm supporting the team efforts all the way.

show some love to the team guys.

For me I would love Ibra to come in up front because he is a handful and a magnificent player who will get goals and is not afraid of the physical side.

defence wise i was not a fan of smalling but the guy is taking the challenge on really well. I think if we can't get a top CB then Rojo needs a chance cause i rate him well and that would be a balance of left and right footed CB.

Thats guys

keep up the great work ED's :)

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16 Aug 2015 19:15:42
Should we file a missing person report for Marcellus I am becoming quite worried.

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16 Aug 2015 18:53:51
@Ed001

Just heard the podcast on the LFC site. Lost count of the number of times the other guy asked you something about a Rodgers decision about the team and u said "I honestly don't know, I really don't understand". That sums it up.

Great point about United fixing the midfield which was the main problem last season.

Would love a podcast for the United site too. I suggest Beast and GDS2 squaring off under bond's moderation with Ed004 giving a detailed tactical analysis at the end.

P.s. I think posters on here would pay to listen to a Beast rant about LVG. :D

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{Ed001's Note - we are intending to work on getting podcasts for more of the sites. Ed004 is away at the moment and Ed007 is even more incomprehensible than a Kenny Dalglish press conference, so we might need a lot of electronic jiggery pokery to make it workable.....

Glad you took the time to listen to it, even though it was mainly about Liverpool. Yeah it is difficult to explain the thinking of someone whose thought process is so totally alien to my own. Though it was good to see Brendan Rodgers had listened to it and took himself off to watch a game for once!

Once we have things sorted, we are going to put a system in place for people to record voice clips that we can use in the podcasts, so even if we can't get Beast on the podcast properly he could still record a rant for us to use.....}

16 Aug 2015 19:22:46
I shall be giving it a listen later for sure!

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16 Aug 2015 21:07:08
I'd be open to be on any podcasts if they were to become an option. :)

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16 Aug 2015 21:17:52
Does bond sound like the guy from Taggart? Subtitles were invented for that guy.

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{Ed001's Note - you get more sense out of Taggart now than you do Bondy.}

16 Aug 2015 18:47:21
Reading about club brugge, found out a few things about them.
They a 19yr old not so prolific 6'5" striker. If he plays against someone like Blind I expect us to have a lot of problems as even Smalling might struggle against him.
It would be sane to play Fellaini this game only for his height to help neutralise any set-piece goals.
I would have started Blackett above Blind but Blackett and Smalling were awful against the Leicester team so I don't think that will work.
Rojo would be unfit and McNair is probably the shortest CB we have.
Ideally I would start Evans with his height and I think with enough holding midfielders ahead of him he could do an okay job. And he is the most experienced CB we have.
Finally read that Brugge are an attacking team and rely on their midfield for goals. So hope to see a 3man midfield. Schweinsteiger, Herrera/Carrick and Fellaini in there. Young seems a definite starter given he had a full rest. And Rooney would certainly start as he's the kind of player who'll get better with minutes. And I'd take a shot and play Valencia RW. Defensive solidity and would keep the fullback pegged back. Make it cagey.

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16 Aug 2015 20:13:33
Wasn't Spurs and Villa going to pose a serious threat to us from their tall players?

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16 Aug 2015 19:24:27
No disrespect for brugge but if they're coming to Trafford, don't you think we should go for an all out assault and instead have them worrying about us?

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16 Aug 2015 19:48:34
I think you are worrying a little too much about the opposition. I agree we need to take them seriously and give them respect , but we are United , playing at Old Trafford and should be trying to win the game comfortably. Meddling with the back four and playing with "enough holding midfielder" because they have one 19 to not so prolific striker seems a bit too defensive , even for LvG.

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16 Aug 2015 19:55:31
I would still play Blind. While he may not be a CB his composure on the ball and his reading of the game makes him a better option in defence. To suggest that Evans should replace him due to their 6ft5 forward is abit rash. Evans is a poor defender. While Blind has his weaknesses, lack of pace and strength his reading of the game and intelligence makes him a far better choice. We also have Carrick, Schneiderlin, Smalling to mark the taller opponents.
While it isn't ideal to play Blind as a CB, the other CBs we have available are error prone, injury prone and mistake prone.

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16 Aug 2015 20:15:58
, it's should be a walk in the park, and we should be putting the whole tie to bed in the first game at OT

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17 Aug 2015 01:28:36
Oh my God. The arrogance of some of us. Why do I get the feeling that the tie is going to be a lot closer than many on here are predicting.
We will not thrash them and we will not kill the tie at OT

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16 Aug 2015 18:47:18
I mentioned Yannick Vestergaard yesterday and now in the papers today, everybody is after him!

I honestly do not talk shinnizzle!

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16 Aug 2015 19:36:29
any good 6 ft 6 1/2 inches big man where did you get the name from
kjaer and agger were pants he better more highly rated than them two

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16 Aug 2015 18:37:19
Now Otamendi is off to City, do we now go after Aymeric Laporte or John Stones, although Stones is right footed and we all know how LVG likes balance which would indicate Laporte as the better signing, being left-footed? He would cost a bomb too, but years ahead of him so in effect would be a Rio type signing? Or just get both and sell Jones and Evans?

I'm still not convinced on Romero? He's done ok, but we need someone better?

Jan Oblak or Yann Sommer would be first choices?

Thoughts anyone?

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16 Aug 2015 19:19:44
Laporte is going to be an amazing player but i think he's destined to go to one of the big spanish two.

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16 Aug 2015 18:34:25
Citeh looked awesome today. And they're signing otimendi and de bruyne. They have world class players everywhere on the pitch. We need to buy muller/bale, lewandawaski, and a top CB just to be in the same league as them.
And before anyone starts saying I'm being negative, just go through their team and see how many will walk straight into our team and most of the best teams. Of course, you've got to be honest and take off the United blinkers.

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16 Aug 2015 19:37:57
City are shaping up very well, and with two more top signings they'll be a good shout for the title. Chelsea have just signed a new lb, and I can see them bringing in a few more after the poor start, especially with Terry's apparent decline.

People have the blinkers on because we have 6 from 6. But we're a long way off City and will remain that way if we fail to strengthen our spine.

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16 Aug 2015 19:47:14
Agree SchMidfield. I can see your name being amended to NoStrikers though soon :(

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16 Aug 2015 20:15:49
Yeah; we might as well hand them the trophy now.

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16 Aug 2015 20:44:15
Schmidfield

Agreed, when it comes to the top quality players City have more, Aguero, Silva are outstanding and beyond what we have. We have sat on our hands too often saying there is no value in the market, for example when Aguero joined City, something I was not impressed with, watching as they developed the club infrastructure. We have done little, the infrastructure is the same. We need top level players just to compete at first team level but also need to wake up when it comes to the ground and surroundings and show some vision for the future or we are in danger of conceding the impetus to that lot. People are on here arguing that we need to buy second rate players so not to upset Rooney, whilst missing the point that we need top ones to compete with City now and an infrastructure to compete with them in the future.

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16 Aug 2015 23:18:31
Yet again agree Red Man and Nomidfield. How many people have you seen saying "sign a striker as back up for Rooney" and "we can't sign him as he won't be happy on the bench behind Rooney" !?? Ludicrous. You sign players that can improve your team. And there are PLENTY out there who are an improvement on Rooney.

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16 Aug 2015 18:00:10
City looked very tasty they look up for it this season.

But on a brighter note they still don't have more points than us 😁

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16 Aug 2015 18:04:00
Chelsea had 3 shots on target so they should be happier with the start of the season than us. I've heard it's all about how many shots on target you have.

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16 Aug 2015 18:36:36
True dean. But they're creating a shed load of chances and by the law of averages, they'll score more and win more matches.
I'm annoyed as they're playing like we used to play. Swashbuckling strong aggressive.

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16 Aug 2015 19:14:34
I will admit schmid they do look formidable but every team plays different kinds of football I think we have to admit that our cavalier "you score 3, we score 4" days are behind us for now and in our own way I think we will be quite as formidable as city we will be a nightmare to play against as the season wears on.

There are many who will not like it but imo we will have success over the next couple of seasons playing this way.

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16 Aug 2015 17:56:52
oh my marcellos, not looking good is it for super chelsea

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16 Aug 2015 18:37:48
Where is our super Marcelleus? ? We miss him. Do you think he's being treated by the ex Chelsea doctor?

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16 Aug 2015 22:15:21
Why's everyone keep slating marcelleus he's only saying what most of our own fans do and because he's a rival fan it's wrong, I just have a slight feeling nothing's going to be good enough for a lot of you, the way I see it's mainly down to the manager with how where playing, but we are winning atm the main thing, 2 years left on his contract and know doubt where much better than we was with moyes, I personally think it's van gaals last year an I hope it is tbh, but I'm very greatful to see he's put some steel back in the club from after Ferguson left, it was never going to be great but we've got to be patient

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16 Aug 2015 23:44:16
SchMidfield, after the story in 001's favourite paper this morning, I wouldn't complain about being treated by her ;)

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16 Aug 2015 17:51:00
Really waiting for jm's mastermind 'taking the pressure of his players' plan. Last week he ingeniously publicly criticised the club physio.

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16 Aug 2015 18:38:29
He's done it again why are the pundits making a big deal about a slow 35 year CB being subbed for a quicker defender against a team he expects to play the second half as a counter attacking side. Now we will have a week of Terry rubbish in the back pages instead of how poor Chelsea looked

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16 Aug 2015 18:40:50
He's already preemptied this match by saying before the match that his players will not be at peak fitness for another 4 weeks.

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16 Aug 2015 18:23:31
Not up to date on stuff, what is the story with the medical staff?

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{Ed001's Note - they got demoted from the bench after a very public falling out with Jose.}

16 Aug 2015 19:23:13
3-0 was not the right score apparently. I agree 4/5-0 would have been more fitting.

I have deja vu it seems Jose first Chelsea meltdown is happening all over again. Shame.

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16 Aug 2015 17:14:30
Pace gathering regarding otamendi to City rumours! What would you think about that if we were to miss out on him? Let alone him going to City.

I'd be gutted, he is a cracking Centre Half! Just what we need I reckon

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16 Aug 2015 17:46:18
And as we've seen this afternoon, City are looking very strong. We are nowhere near their level defensively and offensively.
The difference between a aguero and rooney is worrying. Aguero has chased everything.

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16 Aug 2015 20:18:05
No where near their level defensively?

LOL

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16 Aug 2015 21:09:18
Long season ahead, Man city have bought exceptional players before who've been average in this league, it seems now that they can, they Will spend over the odds and without regard, perhaps without . A process.

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16 Aug 2015 16:45:06
Ok so a lot of hate here for lvg. So, just a scenario to consider. If we could magically get any of the other big club's managers, who would you want?
Your options are
Wenger
JM
Pelegrinni

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16 Aug 2015 17:18:57
I don't hate LVG.
He has had the balls to get rid of the players that aren't good enough and a lot have left in the last 12 months which most of us would agree with.
He is building a squad and although we don't have the free flowing football of the other top teams he has made us hard to beat.
If the 3-4 touch football becomes 1-2 touch football then we will improve. Rooney can't play as bad as Friday night again, Deepay will improve, Datmian and Scneiderlin are solid. When Schweinsteger came on he just controlled the game and he will be a massive player for us once his fitness improves.
Regarding other managers I have liked Klopp but really I like the idea of Giggs taking over in a few years once LVG retires. Giggs is a winner and very single minded and once he has more coaching experience I believe he will make it as a manager.
LVG is ruthless and the players know who is the boss which is something that needed to happen after Moyes.
Utd fans need patience as things are heading in the right direction. We only need a couple of additional players and the squad will be able to compete on all levels this season

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16 Aug 2015 17:30:01
you said it wenger

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16 Aug 2015 19:08:31
I would take ancellotti in a heart beat. Imo he is the best manager around he's available he's used to dealing with big clubs and I like his style of football

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16 Aug 2015 16:35:57
I am not a city fan at all. But there's one thing that their owners have done is trust their managers, Pellegrini would've been sacked if it was Chelsea.
They have shown patience with Hughes, Mancini and now Pellegrini.
I wish we played as attacking as Man City are playing.
And wish we had a CF like Aguero. He scores a goal every game.
Still, hate city, and hope it ends in a draw but would be happy seeing mourinho whining a wee bit more about city buying titles.

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16 Aug 2015 16:48:12
Is this a joke? City trust their managers orrrrr the manager they wanted isn't available? i'm going to opt for the latter

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16 Aug 2015 16:48:35
Did they trust Pellegrini or could they not acquire the manager they wanted to replace him.

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16 Aug 2015 16:55:29
100% agree very jealous of citys attacking play. Is it the players or the tactics? Same formation as we played against villa yet they look a hell of a lot better

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16 Aug 2015 17:03:53
Irrespective of what Pellegrini achieves if Pep becomes available they will sack him in an instant i don't think they give their managers a chance at all, they will quite happily follow the Madrid route of employing flavour of the month whenever they can.

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16 Aug 2015 17:08:12
I hate city but if pep guardiola wasnt available they could have made ancelotti or biesla or someone else for a year than keeping pellegrini who looked out of sorts last yr.
I think Chelsea are up for a meltdown if they lose this game.

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16 Aug 2015 17:18:59
Ancelotti is having an operation so taking time off they sacked mancini the year after he won their first prem how do they give them a chance? 4 managers in about 10 years

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16 Aug 2015 17:51:53
City are looking absolutely awesome. Free flowing football. No fear in their game. Strong and powerful. And they have world class players in their team who will fit in any team in the world. I'm extremely jealous and I hate them beyond hate. But we must recognise that they are a superb team.
I said at the beginning of the season that Chelsea will not win the league. Last year they were extremely lucky with injuries. Today, Terry got injured and they look totally lost.

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16 Aug 2015 17:59:07
One if the big differences between us and city atm is who we are playing at cam and cf, we have Depay/adnan and Rooney, they have silva and Aguero, hate to say it but they are a different class

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16 Aug 2015 18:03:56
i think silva is the best player in the league

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16 Aug 2015 18:54:26
Having gone to school in Manchester all my life, I once never heard a City fan being jealous of our play/ success. I'm nearly 40 and this is getting a bit sad.

We had a great manager he retired, we may never reach the same levels again, but being jealous off City let's not get to excited.

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16 Aug 2015 19:57:29
You guys have lost it

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16 Aug 2015 22:21:58
Schmidfield I'm sure your a city fan, man city are basically the same team as last season there players are just playing better what's to stop ours playing better, 2 games in Jesus

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16 Aug 2015 16:24:51
All last season and the first two games this season I have seen people use the no chances created excuse for our lack of goals. Watching the first 15mins of this game I seen Aguero receive the ball at the edge of the area take a touch inside and work the keeper (potential goals against a lesser stopper) why do people think chances need to be created on a plate for our strikers to score when all TOP strikers make there own chances a lot of the time.

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16 Aug 2015 16:59:03
he made his goal but his first 4 chances where all laid on for him.

top top player tho

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16 Aug 2015 17:20:50
The chances that he received at the edge of the area with 4 defenders in front of him? I wouldn't call that laying him on they were simple passes he turned into chances

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16 Aug 2015 17:31:57
thats because he is a world class striker and we don't have one.

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16 Aug 2015 17:48:25
neither have chelsea watching this

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16 Aug 2015 17:52:37
Hakan Calhanoglu he is the sort of player we need and i think so so good. Give him a year or two and he will be at madrid.

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16 Aug 2015 17:53:26
That's because he's a proper world class striker. And we haven't got one of them. Our man moves at half the speed.

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16 Aug 2015 17:53:58
Interesting to see what Mourinho says after this one lol. Completely outclassed and out played. Good for the league as it will be super competitive.

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16 Aug 2015 15:41:21
Gonna sound like I'm super jealous here but could one of the eds explain how city are allowed to spend so much? Has FFP gone out the window now? Especially if they end up signing de bruyne and otamendi. Some serious cash been spent there

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{Ed007's Note - They had restrictions imposed on them last season but they've met their FFP target and had the sanctions lifted for this year.}

16 Aug 2015 16:21:24
So technically if they spend too much again will they be sanctioned again?

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{Ed007's Note - But realistically they will conform more and more as time goes on.}

16 Aug 2015 17:08:40
Frankly the whole exercise has been a waste of time.

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16 Aug 2015 14:57:43
Another refereeing master class from Lee mason !! The powers that be have to do something refs get away with murder and it seems they are completely untouchable.

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16 Aug 2015 15:23:02
I can understand if a referee doesn't spot a certain foul/penalty. But the fact that he spotted all of le coq's fouls and chose not to send him off baffle me. He could and should have been off in the first half itself

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16 Aug 2015 15:32:23
Absolutely shocking from the ref. Bottled it and gave Wenger the opportunity to take him off. He should be suspended next match in my opinion.

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16 Aug 2015 15:52:48
The richest league in the world about time we employed some top foreign refs as some ours a just not up to standard, week in week out they make howlers and go unpunished for doing they well paid job badly

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16 Aug 2015 16:21:42
I agree with you all there has to be some kind of sanction for refs make decisions like that it's embarrassing.

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16 Aug 2015 17:55:55
And Atkinson has not done much better. Fernandinho should've been sent off.

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16 Aug 2015 14:37:29
I think the jury is still out on Romero.

He barely had anything to do in the Villa game but despite a shaky start to the Spurs game he did recover well and made a few good saves in the 2nd half.

We have 4 games left before the window ends. I think by the end of the 2nd Brugge game we should know if he is good enough to replace DDG.

Having said that if DDG, Valdez, Lindegaard leave as it looks likely we will definitely have to sign a keeper. I suppose we should go for someone good enough to challenge Romero for the starting spot instead of signing someone to be on the bench.

LvG subbing Cillessen for penalties perhaps means he does not completely trust him(?). Maybe someone we aren't expecting may sign for us.

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16 Aug 2015 15:06:38
It wasn't that he didn't trust him its just krul is better on pens.

It was psychological. Imagine your preparing for a shoot out and they change keepers, what goes through your mind.

It was a huge gamble but it worked and that takes stones.

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16 Aug 2015 16:24:44
Romero has dealt with everything he's had to comfortably why are you slating him? Only think that could improve is his distribution, he's commanded his box really well for someone who's just come in

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16 Aug 2015 17:57:25
He's looked very solid to me

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16 Aug 2015 18:19:09
RedAndy who slated Romero here? I can't see who slated him.

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16 Aug 2015 14:28:09
If we could up our tempo by one and two touch passing like arsenal do then we would be that much more exciting. We seem to take too long on the ball and allow the opposition to re-group hence the lack if creativity, we could just be a one touch less per player away from being more threatening.

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16 Aug 2015 15:15:11
United played some beautiful football at the end of last season.
I think what LVGs trying to do here is making the game sloe purposely because early on the season teams may not have the fitness levels to play a stretched game.
If it weren't for being 1 goal up in both games, definitely Pereira or Hernandez and further forward thinking players would have come.

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16 Aug 2015 17:59:15
Lvg does not like the team to lose possession. So this leads to fewer chances being taken on one touch passing.

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16 Aug 2015 14:26:18
Some interesting stuff in the papers this morning. We know w they make some stuff up but alleg day we have had a bid of £60M turned down for Muller and 2 bids of £100M turned down for Bale. This could be nonsense but perhaps we are waiting for the mega names and seeing if we can get one by the end of the window. If RM have really said no to £100M then it isn't going to happen, same for Muller I guess if Beckenbauer's comments are anything to go by.

I think LVG is playing a game of bluff, we have lots of cash, we have strengthened well, we just now need that cream on top kind of signing. Interesting

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16 Aug 2015 15:09:01
I sadly think it could be a case of us having the money but no such players available.

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16 Aug 2015 15:16:37
Papers know nothing. But LVG could be looking at other top class players like reus, griezzmann, ibrahimovic to give us the x factor.

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16 Aug 2015 15:33:29
Completely agree with you AJH, we need a top top striker to put fear back into opposition defenders.

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16 Aug 2015 15:34:14
Agree, unfortunately I don't think the targets we want are available. Still, there are two weeks left. Let's see what our squad looks like come the end of the window.

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16 Aug 2015 13:23:47
Finally caught up with the first 2 games having been away in remote area of France. Couple of thoughts:
- Think we may be in for a different season. don't think we will be a swashbuckling team of old/would like. More thathe we will control games. even when not in possession and will create 3/4 chances that need to be taken. May not prove popular but could mean a strong challenge.
- Defence including HM position looks strong and could get stronger if we bring LCD in. That said thought Blind on the whole played well and Coukd grow into the role.him over Jones any day.
- Schweinsteiger looked class when he played. keep him fit and start him when fully fit and could be a great acquisition
- whether through middle or wide we need to give Deepay.and Januzai time and minutes. They could prove Great in the future but need patience.
- Rooney. Rooney. I love his passion, desire and heart on sleeve approach. I worry he is not suited to this type of football as a striker. If we got someone in he may flourish behind the main one in a 4231. I worry 433 does not work for him. Here's hoping he ups his game.
- my french friends have said there is talk of Zlatan leaving psg and they say a lot of talk amongst fans is if he did we would be a good option. They are not connected just psg fan talk. I know the history with Lvg but think it would add to the team although Lewendowski would be no 1 choice.
- 6 points is still 6 points. Improvemeets needed but prefer to be in this position than last season

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16 Aug 2015 13:58:35
Would love to see Zlatan, Cavani, Benzema or Lewandoski

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16 Aug 2015 14:41:15
Brad,

Regarding the Blind point, yes he is better than Jones in the sense that Jones is rash and has a mistake in him whereas Blind is pretty intelligent and does not make many mistakes. The concern with Blind was whether he is quick enough and strong enough for that role. So far he has done well though.

Rooney needs competition and fear that he could lose his place which means we need to start subbing him if the games isn't going well for him. He needs to be shown that captaincy does not mean automatic selection.

We will have to be patient with Depay but I think he will be a star.

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16 Aug 2015 15:11:49
This style looks like it is going to be with us for LVGs tenure if that is so and we are going to play tight and safe with only creating a couple of goal scoring chances a game we are going to need a world class striker to convert at least one of the chances into a goal. It doesn't look like the midfield will be supplementing the goals for tally with this style and formation

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16 Aug 2015 15:15:07
Mumbai Boy, totally agree on Blind. However I am a believer in partnerships in certain area of the pitch and think his level headed approach will bring out the best In Smalling and allow him to be confident to play his game without a need to cover for irrational wanders like Jones.
Agree with Rooney, would love to see Chicarito come on for half hour or even Fellaini once his ban is finished (not technical but would put the fear up defenders for Deepay/Januzai/Mata/Harera to feed off. not comparing but this happens with Zlatan which is part of why he is so good.

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16 Aug 2015 18:03:57
Glad to see that most are agreeing on the CF need. As I've said before, we need a world class CF before any other.

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16 Aug 2015 13:01:12
What is Van Gaal's problem with Hererra, what does this guy have to do to start a game? Both of our first 2 games this season he has come off the bench and been our best midfielder on the pitch? I personally would like to see him starting along with schneiderlin and with either Carrick or Schweinstieger in a 3 man midfield.

That was the worst performance I've seen from Rooney in a United shirt on Friday and I challenge anyone to correct me otherwise.

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16 Aug 2015 14:35:37
It does not suit with the philosophy LVG has.
It's evident that he is ready to play 2 DMs to protect our CBs. Herrera in holding role isn't the best as he is more of a tiki taka pass and give player. And often runs forward which LVG hates and wants both midfielders staying back.
Herrera in the hole gives much more control to us and could do more damage if he's started there and not thrown just to see out the game. He has a brilliant shot in him and is very tidy in possession.

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16 Aug 2015 14:21:58
Herrera was the best midfielder on the pitch against Villa???

He's underrated but that comment's a stretch.

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16 Aug 2015 15:03:11
Have you ever wondered why everyone on here is on here and not managing one of the biggest clubs on earth?? Because we are not managers we have opinions yes but we do not have any insight into the day to day operation s at the club.

Lvg said that Adnan impressed in training and did very well hence he got his start against villa maybe Herrera is not doing enough day to day to warrant a starting place .

It really is getting tedious on here lately.

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16 Aug 2015 12:51:09
Sorry Eds, I should have put this on my previous post in regards to Otamendi. Is it fair to say that some of Uniteds targets will hold off signing for us until after we qualify for Europe? Have you heard if any of our potential targets are taking this route?

Thanks in advance again Eds

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{Ed007's Note - No.}

16 Aug 2015 14:21:50
Cheers 007

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16 Aug 2015 12:47:43
Hi Eds, there are murmurs that united are trying to penny pinch with the Otamendi deal and this has led to City holding the advantage as they are willing to pay more. Apparently the deal is very close. Are you able to confirm if this is true or not?

Thanks in advance and appreciate the work you guys put in on a daily basis.

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{Ed007's Note -City are prepared to make an acceptable offer and right now it looks like Utd aren't.}

16 Aug 2015 14:24:28
Thanks ed. I think Van Gaal is desperate for a ball playing CB and Otamendi is not that type of player. Either way he would improve us and if we do let him sign for City, I hope it doesn't come back to haunt us.

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{Ed007's Note - In a way I'm quite surprised by City's interest because in Jason Denayer they have a potential top, top drawer CB. The 20 yr old Belgian was on loan at Celtic last season and along with van Dijk just strolled through games. City have just given him a new 5 year contract and he's definitely one worth keeping an eye out for.}

16 Aug 2015 15:19:45
Ed007, is virgil van Dijk a ball playing CB? There were rumors of us and Southampton interested in him? Surely he must be better than Jones.

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{Ed007's Note - Southampton, Everton and to a lesser extent Newcastle are all on VVD's trail but Celtic are adamant that he won't be allowed to leave until the CL qualifiers are over and even then they are hoping they can convince him to stay until at least January if we're in the CL. Utd were interested but seen him only as a back-up player which the player wouldn't accept and that seemed to be that.
With more and more Utd targets seemingly choosing other options perhaps Utd might view him differently now.}

16 Aug 2015 15:26:18
You have a point Ed but I really can't see Pellegrini giving youth a chance. It does show however that they don't believe Mangala is the man to partner Kompany. Be interesting to see how he does today.

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16 Aug 2015 15:53:39
"I think Van Gaal is desperate for a ball playing CB"

I think you may be right which is why Blind has been molded into that position for the time being. None of our other CB's seem comfortable with the ball at feet.

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16 Aug 2015 16:32:45
I think against lesser teams where we have lots of possession, Blind will be perfect. Very intelligent and can pick a forward pass as shown against Villa. However in saying that, it's obvious Louis is craving a natural ball playing CB judging by who we have tried to sign so far.

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16 Aug 2015 12:01:57
Watched MOTD earlier and it was great to watch some good winger's mahrez, redman, Montero ect, it would be nice to see Memphis run at defenders a bit more often, don't know if it's LGV, s tactics that stop's him?

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16 Aug 2015 12:42:02
Or he's just not good enough maybe?

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16 Aug 2015 13:02:14
Or he's from a foreign league and needs more time to adjust maybe?

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16 Aug 2015 14:39:05
He was clearly struggling last game and I would blame Van Gaal for it.
He played him all preseason as a second striker and now suddenly plays him on the wing and he did not look on the same wavelength to our other forward players. Mistiming runs, controlling crosses etc.
He was half an inch away from scoring a goal and players like RVp and Rooney too have been guilty of missing such chances.
He would come good, give him time.

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16 Aug 2015 15:34:47
Pep,

Yea that will be it, after 2 games it's quite clear he isn't good enough, worst ever signing. You have to be kidding with that post.

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16 Aug 2015 15:57:43
We should not be expecting too much too soon from a youngster in Depay's position, patience is required. If fans are going to write him off after his first 2 games in the Epl it may be wise to take him out of the spotlight for a few weeks and ease him in gently.

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16 Aug 2015 16:00:42
I was merely suggesting a reason not stating my opinion! Although seen as tho you want my opinion so you can click disagree gsd2 then Il give it you. I don't think memphis will end up being remembered as an outstanding signing like Ronaldo. Shock horror, quick press disagree

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16 Aug 2015 18:10:36
HB. Totally agree. I said before that memphis cannot be too trusted in his first season. He's still young and is finding his feet in a new country and new league. He is quality and will definitely come good.

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16 Aug 2015 11:42:47
Rio Ferdinand came out and said that any top 4 club should go out and sign Jefferson Montero.
I haven't seen him play this season, but he was a thorn in our side whenever we played Swansea. He is a very good dribbler and Ecuadorians do tend to have a very good engine, see Valencia, I'm not so sure about his crossing but he's definitely the ki d of guy you pass to who'll run at defenders.
I would take him over Pedro simply because he is suited to PL, and I am very skeptical about signing a short Barcelona player who goes missing in many games.
And I think either of Lukaku or Berahino in our side and Rooney would drop out to the bench given how bad he is performing, I would bet he'd be gone next summer if he doesn't score a lot. We could sign Harry Kane, but unlikely.
We do need a CB and I think Howedes could be the answer to our problems who to me is an above average defender who could do the job. I'd take him over otamendi who demands an exorbitant fee for far lesser value.

Montero, Lukaku and Howedes would be perfect for us and would genuinely ensure a top 2 finish.
I would however be delighted to sign another player called Karim Bellrabi, I haven't seen him play but watching him in the international games and reading his stats, and cheaper he will be, he could be a bargain for us.
If De Gea stays, no GK needed.

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16 Aug 2015 10:50:46
What result you guys wanting today, I want a draw and can see mourinho parking the bus so am going 0-0 interesting to see if they get slated for being boring like we are at the moment

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16 Aug 2015 11:11:24
2 draws today please, that would be lubbly jubbly

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16 Aug 2015 12:09:29
Chelsea v city draw, palace win against the gooners just to wipe the smugness of Paul mersons mush

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16 Aug 2015 11:30:58
Palace and a draw would be good for me considering I've got a fiver on it.

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16 Aug 2015 12:27:29
I think Palace and City will win today, happy with the first and like most people want a draw for the 2nd one.

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16 Aug 2015 12:37:13
I think the first game will be a draw and the second game will be a goalless draw or 1-0 City.

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16 Aug 2015 13:09:21
I've gone for a palace win and a draw in the other game

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16 Aug 2015 11:30:48
12/1 on 0-0 is a good shout I always put 0-0 when chelsea are away to the big teams returned a decent profit last few seasons.

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16 Aug 2015 18:08:51
LOL you guys are out of pocket. I picked city to win and also picked 3-1 on another bet. Damn where is hazard or costa when you need them.

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16 Aug 2015 18:10:07
Well my 0-0 was a little bit off that's why I've stopped betting

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16 Aug 2015 10:19:16
Berahino, bolasie and Ashley Williams would improve our squad

Not as much as muller, Pedro and otimendi though!!!!

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16 Aug 2015 11:43:08
So you are suggesting that we sign those players if we can't get Muller, Pedro and Otamendi?

I would maybe go for Berahino that too if not asked for a big price but Bolasie and Williams would not improve us one bit and would only eat up places.

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16 Aug 2015 12:08:04
Bolasie would get ripped into by Van Gaal every week for loosing his precious possession

Williams is not an improvement on Carrick, the Schmmidfield or Herrera and nor is Berahino an improvement on Hernandez

Pedro will get bullied in this league and I'd prefer Januzaj an pereira get his games

But Mueller is the perfect signing imo Can put pressure on Rooney's position at CF yet still play in other positions of Wazza's form does pick up again

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16 Aug 2015 12:36:03
You're right Res Joe, Williams would struggle to get into our midfield. of course, he is a central defender though ;)

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16 Aug 2015 12:43:49
Haha dodgybanta

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16 Aug 2015 10:08:59
I don't think our defence will be properly tested until we face Swansea then Liverpool. The next three games are very much winnable and I can't see us conceding many in these three. Then we will face Swansea and in my eyes they will be a harder test than Liverpool. I think they are the most inform team so far and Montero looks frightening going forward so I wouldn't even think about playing Mata in front of Darmian. Mata would not be able to cover. Instead I would play Young on the right or even Valencia just for the pace. One thing is for sure this will be the game we see how good Darmian really is.

Gomis is also dangerous although he needs many chances to score and we haven't really given too much away as our defence has been superb so far. Against Liverpool we will have to deal with Benteke which will be a test if Daily Blind is still our first choice CB. His positioning is great but he does lack in the air which is where Benteke could be a problem.

Next 5 games I see/ expect 2-0 vs Newcastle, 3-1 aggregate win over Brugge followed by a 1-1 draw vs Swansea and a narrow 2-1 win over Liverpool.

What do you guys think?

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16 Aug 2015 11:43:12
With regard to Montero - We have everything we need in either Darmain or Shaw to deal with him.

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16 Aug 2015 11:45:27
I agree redarmy. Montero will be Darmian's biggest test so far.

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16 Aug 2015 12:12:53
Good predictions there red army, would only change the pool match to 3-0 to United. Don't rate scousers at all, Sterling was right to jump a sinking ship

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16 Aug 2015 18:17:49
Red Joe. Disagree on your dismissive attitude re Liverpool. They've bought well and they will be contending for top4. Make no mistake about that.
Redarmy. Swansea started very well but I think City are by far in the best form of all the teams.

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16 Aug 2015 09:20:38
Yeas , this probably is a case of MOTD fever. But if anyone wants to see the ideal CF performance that would suit our playing style at the moment , have a look at Lukaku for Everton yesterday.
I know he has been mentioned before , and usually shot down on here. But yesterday he was awesome. Pace , power and raw strength. Holds the ball up very well , and also very good at running in behind too. He would be ideal for us with that level of performance.
He has flattered to decieve so far , after arriving with such expectation at a young age. But this could be the season when he finally comes of age.
Not suggesting we should buy him after 2 good games this season , I was just highlighting what a great CF performance he gave yesterday.
Having said that , if we are looking for someone in that position.

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16 Aug 2015 10:24:11
I would have lukaku over most strikers in the PL and Europe. And this is not something I say over 2 games. He is 22, he has scored plenty of goals in the PL and will only get better.

He is everything we lack at Man Utd. If we were to buy him though Everton would be looking at a serious chunk of profit back as they bout him for 28mil.

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16 Aug 2015 10:25:46
I've thought for a while he would be perfect for us. Rooney has been excellent but he doesn't stretch the defence or make runs behind anymore! He's been on the scene since he was 16 so unfortunately is past his best at nearly 30. Not sure how long he's got on his contract but I think it's 3 years and I'll be surprised if he's not sold before then

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16 Aug 2015 10:30:50
I totally agree . I think he has that fear factor that we are missing at the moment. At least there is the possibility of him doing what he did yesterday and dominating a game. Just can't see rooney been able to dominate a game like that anymore.

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16 Aug 2015 10:31:33
I too think hell be a great signing but our transfer dealings with everton never get done easily

Wouldnt it have been easier to have paid 32 mil for benteke

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16 Aug 2015 10:39:35
Yes this is a case of MOTD fever.

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16 Aug 2015 11:52:20
Mumbai boy have you actually watched lukaku over the past 2 seasons?

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16 Aug 2015 13:43:51
Lukaku -£35m plus Rooney at the end of the season for £15m to them?

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16 Aug 2015 13:08:16
Vardy gives me MOTD fever.

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16 Aug 2015 14:07:36
angelred I have watched him over the past 3 seasons actually and i don't think he is worth the 30mp(it will perhaps take more than that) that Everton will ask of us.

Yes he is strong and decently quick for his size and might suit LvG's current gameplay but surely we don't plan to play like this forever. We should go for a different type of striker imo.

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16 Aug 2015 03:48:12
Rooney aside I actually thought we played quite well on Friday but then again I was watching the match from a Hooters bar in Cancun so everything looked pretty good. So where's the best place someone has watched a game (other than the stadium):-)

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16 Aug 2015 06:47:40
Hooters sounds like the place lol.

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16 Aug 2015 07:32:33
Haha what a venue, Hooters; another theatre of dreams I guess,

Staying in Mexico, I watched our boys ruthless demolition of Arsenal 8-2. August 28th 2011 i'm Merida (about 4 hours away from Cancun) whilst volunteering.

Witnessed in the volunteer house at 10:30 am, dark rum and coke, surrounded by fellow volunteers, majority of whom supported arsenal or anyone United played. Never forget the sounds of mariachi bands and weeping gooners.

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16 Aug 2015 07:40:11
Star casino Sydney or The Star as it is known now.

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16 Aug 2015 07:49:37
BCM Square Magaluf CL Final v Chelsea

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16 Aug 2015 09:15:56
On safari in Kenya - just lion around

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16 Aug 2015 09:51:19
When we demolished Panathinaikos 5-0 in September 2003, I was sat in a hotel bar on Kos Island, in a United shirt, with about 15 passionate Panathinaikos fans who worked at the hotel. Thankfully they were a nice bunch of lads, I wouldn't have fancied my chances if they hadnt been, 15 against 1 :-)

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16 Aug 2015 09:54:19
It was not so much the place, but I visited London and watched United vs City in a small local sportsbar surrounded by 10-12 City supporters (I was there first). Then all of a sudden Owen made it 4-3 :) 10 seconds after that I had the bar for myself again.

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16 Aug 2015 09:55:25
You were at Hooters and you had time to watch United? I know what I would have been watching! !

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16 Aug 2015 10:10:27
37,000 feet in the Etihad plane to Abu Dhabi , couldn't believe it but the game was streamed live

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16 Aug 2015 10:15:19
Hooters is perfect for watching United. You can see how enjoyable 2 up front is instead of Rooney on his own.

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16 Aug 2015 10:18:03
In middle of the Caribbean sea when Rooney scored the winner against city with the overhead kick

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16 Aug 2015 10:27:23
You're right there, Schmidfield. I'd much rather watch ladies jiggling their breast, than men playing with their balls. ;)

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16 Aug 2015 11:32:47
Also, not a United game, but it ties in with the Hooters thing, there used to be a bar in Manchester where the bar maids wore just skimpy lingerie. Remember watching England play Columbia in the 1998 world in there, when Beckham banged in a free kick, a lovely evening was had by all.

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16 Aug 2015 11:36:29
I watched the champions league semi final in a beach house in Bellair beach Florida. When Scholes scored we all ran out past sun bathing Americans and into the sea.

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16 Aug 2015 12:05:11
Schmid beat me too it but how did you watch the game in hooters? Incredible discipline, lvg should be drafting you into the squad.

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