Manchester United Banter Archive December 16 2011

16 Dec 2011 23:11:27
Just wonderin did anyone see saf press conference tonight I thought he looked very tired and drained anyone agree

Bernard

16 Dec 2011 19:45:05
Syd
I think what fergy was meaning was we allready had several players for midfield add a new buy as well and it would make it more difficult for any young player to break thro
I think it is an issue that has been spoke about many times but I'm sure you know better
as for we were looking at midfield players behind the scenes of course we were it's no secret we looked at sneijder and nasri and maybe some players that even you don't know about
so to be honest I really don't know what your point or problem is
jred

16 Dec 2011 18:43:10
why on earth would we want to sign gaitan he is a winger and we have plenty of them, just paper talk again, he aint coming.

16 Dec 2011 18:12:31
- Anderson, Phil Jones, Cleverley, Carrick, Fletcher, Giggs, gibson, Park, Pogba, Ravel, Rooney.

So we have 11 players who can play CM. 5 of them in my opinion deserve to be in our squad on current ability, not past or future. and they are Jones, Clevs, Carrick, Fletch and rooney.

With Rooney best suited to playing upfront that leaves us with 4, plus with Clevs and Fletch current injured that leaves us with two, Carrick and Jones.

Now, that can work, Carrick's best work was when he had a real ball winner working his magic behind him, Jones will provide that, so although it's not a solution to our problem in the long term it's certainly a good short term.

Anderson, Gibson, Giggs and Park aren't up to it, they're all good players but they aren't of the level of consistency on a weekly basis that we need, I think Park will be kept simply for depth but the other 3 will leave in the summer IMO.

Pogba and Ravel are simply not quite there YET. next season they probably will be, but I can only see them getting game time if we have no other choice.

so, assuming that Fletcher decides to call it a day altogether it means come next season we should have the following fighting over a place;

Cleverley, Carrick, Jones, Park, Ravel, tunners and Pogba - although this isn't the best selection of player we've got 5/7 there under the age of 24. so my question is simple, will Sir Alex see it as this is the future of our midfield with a couple of youngsters such as Rodwell added to the mix as well as the possibility of an older CM just to add experience and depth to our midfield, or will he see those players as being perfect when you consider they are fighting over 2 roles?

hm. I personally think a midfield selection of Cleverley, Carrick, Jones, Park, Ravel, tunners, Rodwell, Pogba and an older CM looks pretty decent. you'll then have 6/9 under 24, and hopefully 3 under 32. which to be honest, have 9 CM, 6 with long careers and 3 with tons of experience and still being relatively good seems likely to me.

The Moon.

16 Dec 2011 17:18:30
It will be interesting to see if pogba does now get a game
in the summer fergy used pogba as one of the reason/excuse for not buying but is yet to put him on the bench
if Gibson is injured I can't see how pogba won't make the bench on Sunday also I wonder if this fergy donig what he does best and playing a few mind games to get pogba a to sign on the dotted line or is this proof that all the rumours are bs
one last thing if fergy is looking to sure up midfield he better hope smalling and ferdy stay fit
jred

16 Dec 2011 14:42:58
If we were to sign Gaitan in January for 25 million i think we'd still have enough in the tank to sign another player. But i don't think we would do, and i'd be happy if we didn't. I must say that i would like to see Rodwell at the club, however if we get past Ajax and then play Bilbao, then we have an excellent chance to see him play against us. As we know this is seemingly the way SAF is going, if someone impresses then we go for them.

So instead of rushing in January to sign Rodwell, i'd like to see us wait, stick Jones alongside Gaitan if we want or rotate and then take another check in June. Have a good look at the players we have played against and see who would improve us. This to be honest is the way i think Fergie will go, nothing more than 2 January signings at the most, but one is the most likely.

The second signing could be Gary Cahill, and i think as a squad player he wouldnt be a bad shout, especially if Vidic is out for 9-12 months, we won't have him back itll September so we need some quality cover. If not Cahill then Chris Samba should be looked at.

That in total would be about a 30 million layout in January - personally it would be money well spent!

RedDevil19

16 Dec 2011 14:36:51
Ajax.
Kills all known germs dead.
The Real KB

16 Dec 2011 13:43:17
So we play:

11th February - Liverpool (H)
16th February - Ajax (A)
23rd February - Ajax (H)
26th February - Norwich (A)
29th Internationals

3rd March - Spurs (A)
8th March - Bilbao/Loko (H)
11th March - WBA (H)
15th March - Bilbao/Loko (A)
18th March - Wolves (A)

24th March - Fulham (H)
29th March - Quarter Finals
1st April - Blackburn (A)
5th April - Quarter Final
8th April - QPR (H)

So we will definitely be using our squad for these games, will certainly see a bit of the kids if we can get this far.

Sydney!

16 Dec 2011 12:30:09
Just about the worst draw possible, what a surprise that one is! At least we will get a look at Eriksen, see how he is.

Any news on Gaitan ed?

RedDevil19 {

16 Dec 2011 12:50:13
If Ronaldo is unhappy as reported, do you think he could make a dramatic return? No doubt that SAF wants him back - but i reckon if he was to return then Hernandez could be used in a deal. Is this something that you would take? Say, 50/60 million plus Hernandez to bring him back. Personally I would, he still has a good 7 or even 8 years of good football left in him, and i wouldn't be surprised. It would probably very much mean that we have little money to spend elsewhere, but we could use our budget on Cristiano and let others go to facilitate other moves. And getting big wages off of the wage bill such as Berbatov, Owen etc, we would have a healthy looking wage bill.

Who would bet against SAF making a final parting blow on City with resigning the former World Player of the Year?

RedDevil19

16 Dec 2011 12:25:44
So, Ajax it is then! Maybe this will give Fergie a good chance to watch Christian Erikson perform. Porto vs City should be an interesting game too..

Ozwald

16 Dec 2011 11:47:24
Now that I've seen the draw, I honestly think that this will happen;

Chelsea will come out on top against Napoli, it'll be close though.

Arsenal, depending on RVP I believe will go through.

And here's the odd one, I think Leverkusen will come out on top against Barcelona, Barca haven't been their best this season and Leverkusen are playing brilliantly, defensively they're strong and Adler seems to be in the form of his life.

Either way, I'm still thinking it'll be a Munich. Real final.


The Moon.

16 Dec 2011 11:04:01
i think we will only buy rodwell in jan and then loan macheda and hopefully gibson for rest of season with option to buy. i think we will sell diouf although this could wait till summer. i heard a rumour that berb could be off to russia for about 8m which with the exception of youth signings will be about it


come summer i think we will go for willems, khedira/ hamsik and a striker maybe torres
i think owen will stay 1 more yr as will park and ferdinand with giggs retiring
can hold me to this

dags

16 Dec 2011 08:57:15
hi ,

I am a united fan from India, i just read the papers about transfers, and heard lukas podolski is available, what do you guys think about him, German International , great left foot and since we are short of left foot players esp upfront. What do you guys think ?

DesiRed

16 Dec 2011 01:47:33
Can anybody shed any light on why ravel Morrison hasn't featured in the last two reserve games?

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