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16 Jul 2013 23:20:44
Ok, so was thinking, based on a previous post a few month ago that Moyes likes German football, what about Khedira, covers a lot of ground like Rooney, not sure the value, thoughts?
KevDarko
Comparing khedira to Rooney is rather ridiculous. Khedira is a good player but is far too one dimensional and going forward he doesn't offer anything so alongside carrick there would be no attacking prowess from central areas
16 Jul 2013 23:19:12
Oh no no name are u really now resorting to posting under my name?
This even futher backs up my point about ure level of intelligence because i'm sure the ed will tell u, when u send in posts it has ure ip address and funny enough it will be different to mine duh!.
Lol nice try though ;-)
Now go away and stay away fool
F-ing doughnut {Ed007's Note - That should be it sorted out Chris. I'll keep an eye on it though.}
Cheers bond, this fool really seems to like me lol.
Whoop whoop, Chris has got a stalker! Syd will be jealous
Lol AJH I think syd is safe :-)
Its the same gooner who has tried it on many times and obviously can't take banter
16 Jul 2013 23:18:23
If we take away last season when Rooney was very unfit (supposedly smokes like a chimney and eats like he's got worms) and put into perpective all previous seasons and he now looks fitter and is still 27. does anyone not think it is a bad idea to even consider selling him to Chelsea for the reported 25Million. I reckon he would be awesome for Chelsea and easily hit 30 - 40 goals a season under Jose and fit.
25million is bugger all as well considering how high profile a player he is considering Torres went for 50million.
If he has demanded to go I understand that no one is bigger than Manchester United but we should sell him abroad or if it has to be Chelsea £40 million minimum or both Mata and Lakaku. what strikers are available if Rooney leaves that have the same quality. If RVP gets injured as it stands we are left with Hernadez and Wellbeck upfront, under performing wingers and a one man midfield (Carrick) with everyone strengthing If we do not sign anyone of significance we should be looking at top 4.
Can anyone confirm if Nani is getting a new contract? If so is that not a sign that no other wingers such as Bale or Ronaldo will be coming to OT.
Oggie316
I've Said many times Rooney and Chelsea are a good fit.
I think Jose will get the best out of him.
I think Rooney still has a lot to offer as a footballer, and will fit very well with the Chelsea midfield and Jose style.
I also think Rooney wants to play the lone striker role and he is the type of player Jose will want in that position.
If he leaves United I can only see him going to Chelsea and imo he will do very well prove some of the experts on this site wrong.
Jred
Where have u been? I've been saying this about rooney for six weeks. Wake up guys, if we let him go to Chelsea then we're screwed.
Nomidfield
Come on Nomidfield, we're not screwed. It may or may not strengthen Chelsea or it could hack a number of their players off when he rolls up on mega money. It may or may not weaken us, depending on who we sign - please God we do actually sign some players
With Mata, Hazard, Oscar, V Vinke, Ramires, Lampard and Mourinho motivation Rooney will be awesome (if he moves there). We'll loose a great player. I don't se any player AVAILABLE to replace Rooney if we let him go.
In a time that we need to attract world class players and we are on the verge to let one of the 2 go, it's dangerous. I hope that Moyes and MR. Ed have a bigger plan for this United new era.
16 Jul 2013 23:11:44
It's amazing to read how many United "fans" are full of doom and glum before the season has started. From reading this site most days there are people who would find a reason to moan if we signed Messi!
Thiago joined Bayern because of Pep. He has been his coach since the under age teams at Barca. It's blatantly obvious that he would make that decision. It would appear that he waited to see if Bayern approached him.
Strootman is decent but not world class. Those moaning about not buying him would have moaned if we had.
A bid has been lodged, apparently for Fabregas but those reporting this are the very same "in the know" journalists who were convinced Thiago and Strootman were both done deals. The very same people who claimed Moura and Sneijder were also done deals. This is silly season so I take every link with a rather large pinch of salt! If fabregas was to sign then that would be amazing but that would depend on the rumours being fact.
Those moaning about Moyes not being able to attract top players need to look objectively at the transfer market as a whole. Witsel, Hulk, Eto, Mouthino, Rodriguez, and many more have moved to various unlikely destinations around the world with one thing in common, astronomical wages!
Monaco have just been promoted and look who has opted for them. No European football for at least a year yet appealing to many. Gone are the days where the name and history of any club is more appealing than money. The privilege of playing out your career at the best clubs in history has been overtaken by the salary and bonuses. There's nothing wrong with that, indeed I would leave my job for a better salary. It's simply a major factor in the game you and I would play for United for free. It happened when Fergie was the boss and it will happen again. Dreams of playing at OT have been replaced by dreams of massive wages.
As for missing out on this and that, there's no doubt United have missed out on world class players recently. That being said, the press print lists upon lists of players in the hope one is correct!
I will reserve judgment until the close of the transfer window.
Gerdy7
The reports I read said we lost alcantara because Moyes wasn't completely convinced he could handle the physicality of the premier league. apparently we dithered and Bayern didn't.
Good post Gerdy7.
I'm not 100% convinced that Thiago wanted a move to Bayern from the beginning, but he's not our player, and we move on. I have to admit that I'm getting a little frustrated to see on media and journals saying we are failing to sign our targets, but i'm sure DM has clearer idea than most of us here. So let's wait and see.
RumourNo. 1
16 Jul 2013 20:56:22
Ed. what's going on in manutd? its seems we are struggle to sign players, all quality players goes to other team. its getting frustrated in the transfer window. fans we don't know what's going on. players want to leave no one sign yet.
ferdcoast {Ed007's Note - There is still plenty of time left in the window.}
Ed007, yet are there plenty of players available?
RumourNo. 1 {Ed007's Note - Every player is available, for the right price.}
16 Jul 2013 22:59:00
Thanks Moyes. You haven't even won a match yet and you're fat-never even seen a trophy-mouth is already risking us losing one of our top players. We seem to be the only top club intent on getting WORSE this offseason. If we sell Rooney we have one player who can score goals on the team, ONE! Insanity on the part of Moyes, Woodward and the Glazers.
So he states to a player who has held us to ransom for more money that no player is bigger than the club and you slate him for this. Exactly what Fergie should have done and I think he is probably behind this. Well done Mr Moyes I can see glimmers
Moyes wasn't the manager who didn't start him in the champions league last season. Fergie hasn't liked Rooney since he put in that transfer request or has that slipped your small mind. Moyes inherited this mess.
Totally agree. Some want him out and have not thought of consequences. We lose 25 goals and 15 assists and Chelsea gain those. Are we mad? Moyes will be making a big mistake.
Nomidfield
In my mind I agree with both times Rooney expressed frustration. A few years ago we had stopped attracting the top players we needed, and Rooney voiced exactly what many of us were thinking, that the club needs to raise their ambitions. This time, he expressed frustration at being played out of position for extended periods of time, which no doubt hurt his form. In neither case do I feel he was wrong, and in both cases I actually agree with him. If Moyes was smart, he'd hash everything out with Rooney immediately, bc there's no one available who can replace him. Furthermore, Rooney is the face of our team, our one recognizable global star (more so than RVP) and he's been our superstar, not some random foreigner coming in for a few years. It would hurt me far more to lose Rooney than the usual player as he has carried this club since Ronaldo left and has been treated poorly nonetheless. Could he have more tact and class in some dealings, sure, but on the basis of things, I can't believe that fans have turned so quickly on someone who carried the team on his back for 3-4 years of success ad then selflessly played way out of position for a season and a half to help the team at a cost to himself. Selling Rooney would be insanity. There's a reason every top club would snap him up.
Sounds like Rooney was after a retraction from the club regarding the transfer request.
All we had to do was put out some vaguely worded PR statement that said SAF and Rooney had a big row and Rooney didn't actually put in a transfer request. The club want to put that behind us and work with Rooney etc
We have done the opposite and got to this big old mess.
Pete W
16 Jul 2013 22:54:37
I just can't see Wayne Rooney in another shirt than the red jersey of Manchester United.
PSG- Bought Cavani for £55m
Real Madrid- Never really an interest but would probably have to get rid of one of Di Maria and Ronaldo with the two midfield signings already made.
Barcelona- Neymar said would love him there, but Barcelona have never really registered an interest and even if he was bought, someone like Fabregas would have to move on and I think he wants to stay and Barcelona would like him to.
Juventus- Probably can't afford it and have already bought in Llorente and Tevez and already have Vucinic, Matri, Giovinco and Quagliarella. There is no room for him there.
Bayern Munich- Already have enough options and with Guardiola in charge I can see them playing a 4-3-3 false 9 formation. Kroos, Muller, Gustavo, Schweinstieger, Robben, Ribery, Shaqiri, Gotze, Javi Martinez and Thiago Alcantra. No room here either.
Monaco- Never interested registered and main man is Radamel Falcao.
Italian Clubs- Can't afford him as Nesta said no money.
Arsenal- Interest registered but doubt United would sell to them and he would choose them considering their trophy drought, no disrespect to Gunners fans intended.
Chelsea- The most realistic chance. There is a gap upfront. Mourinho likes him. Hazard and Lampard and others like him. But would United sell to their main title rivals one of their stand-out players despite what Moyes said about him playing second fiddle to RVP.
For them reasons, he will remain a Manchester United player come the 1st September
16 Jul 2013 22:39:09
United are not going to sell Rooney without getting a marquee name in beforehand. People forget that, worldwide, Rooney is the face of United. He is a huge marketing tool and we would be losing that.
However, if we signed Ronaldo or Bale, that leaves the door open for Rooney to go.
RvP would be the new face of MU. Just like Rooney became the face of MU when Ronaldo left. I do think we will try hard to bring in a top player, but I am not sure it really matters from a marketing point of view.
Sydney!
He seems like just a huge Tool
He's the most marketable tool out there.
Tool or not kloot, we'll really miss him on the pitch if he leaves
16 Jul 2013 22:32:54
All the buying going on including
City signing Negredo and Jevotic.
We do the usual making noise
about we are looking for players.
Prediction is we don't sign anyone.
Moyes has to stamp his authority now.
You predict we won't sign anybody? I would put any amount of money on that you are wrong.
16 Jul 2013 22:31:17
Why does it take days or even weeks to say "how much do you want for this player". surely if you was in a meeting with the representatives of the player you would come to some conclusion within a few hours?
16 Jul 2013 22:11:51
Not manchester united related, but fair play to Southampton. I think they have the best central midfield in the league bar the big 5. Wanyama, Schneiderlin ( who imo is top class and has been one of the best central midfielders in the league this season ) and the hugely talented Ramirez. All 24 or younger. That's impressive for a side that has been playing in the championship just over a year ago. ( they have pretty decent fullbacks too)
Mick
Division One mate.
Sydney!
I make you right and I predict great things for the manager if he carries on I would like to see him brought into the United family
Sydney, that's just not true. Mick makes a good point. Those three players he listed are arguably as good if not better set of players than our first choice midfield (whatever our first choice is nowadays!).
Andrew, I think you have got the wrong end of the stick my friend. I meant Southampton have come from Division One.
Sydney!
16 Jul 2013 22:00:08
If it is true that Wayne Rooney is leaving, who would you guys have to replace him? Lewandowski has Bayern written all over him, Jovetic looks like he is City-bound, Cavani and Falcao have both gone other places, Suarez is a person, and Higuain will probably stay at Madrid. So who are we left with then? Soldado? Benteke? Any others? The players I have mentioned as possible replacements, are good players, and will become even better in better teams, but are they United-quality? Personally, I hope Hernandez steps up his game and shows that he is capable of starting games and scoring, not only as a super-sub. But then again, we would be short up top, as I do not feel that either Henriquez or Keane are ready to be first-teamers, and Welbeck needs to improve his finishing.
ZigZag
RvP has already replaced Rooney. Kagawa will replace him in the hole. Hernandez & Welbeck are plenty for the striker role as we usually play with one upfront. As long as we improve the midfield and the left side we will be pretty strong.
Sydney!
Syd
So if we sell Rooney we don't have to replace him?
Jred
I agree with syd, if we get a good left winger like gaitan (or dare I say it bale) and play kagawa in his best position then no, we would not need to replace him as we already have.
moyes wants an extra goal threat coming from midfield and with a genuine left winger aiding supply to the box both rvp and chicarito will find the space and finish off chances.
i predict this will also result in us playing a faster game and will actually result in more goals without rooney as a lot of chances won't break down due to his deteriorating first touch or dropping too deep.
Rooney is a better player than kags and we would be screwed if rvp got injured
Jred
Jred, not directly no. Strengthen the left side the middle and Kagawa and RvP will be all we need.
Sydney!
16 Jul 2013 21:57:28
With Rooney's future being cast into doubt this evening, the odds on Bale to United have dropped considerably
Bale is the transfer that I want most ahead of any other
jple23
16 Jul 2013 21:51:41
Rooney will end up at Chelsea, playing at his favorite position and scoring around 25-30 season and we'll go for Fellaini and company. I just hope Moyes and Edw have a bif plan for this United.
Totally agree, we are making a monumental mistake. Well done Moyes and Woodward.
Nomidfield
16 Jul 2013 21:46:18
with barca looking for alternative defensive options away from thiago silva would it not be worth a punt to offer vidic in a player plus cash deal for fab?
16 Jul 2013 21:44:06
If Rooney leaves, we DO NOT need Juan Mata. He is too similar to Kagawa. Everyone is saying Kagawa is wasted out wide etc he needs to play where Rooney plays. So WHY would we sign someone else who will want to play there? Think about what you are saying sometimes folks.
As it stands, we NEED two central midfielders. It also looks like we will sign a central defender (Garay) and a left back (Baines). So a summer of those two along with Fellaini and Fabregas would be fantastic. If Rooney then leaves on top of that, we need a winger to allow Kagawa to move inside, not another forward or attacking midfielder. We should hold out for £35-£40m for Rooney, since he is at "the peak of his powers" according to himself, nobody could grudge us that as by saying what he said he has given us more leverage asking price wise imo.
If we got £35-£40m, we need go for Gareth Bale. Offer £40m to start with and go as high as £50m. I reckon Spurs would sell if we offered that, maybe plus Valencia or Young, though he would probably have to hand in a transfer request.
50m plus young for bale would be a good deal imo,
i think valencia will start on the right and gradually (over a couple of seasons) be replaced by zaha, nani will be sold as soon as can find anyone to agree terms but if a lw comes in young will be warming the bench all season anyway and spurs would be a good fit for him. if we don't move for bale and get someone like gaitan instead, I can see young being kept as back up then still going to spurs next season when real move for bale (with hopefully ronaldo coming to us)
16 Jul 2013 21:38:57
Long shot of the day. Rooney to Chelsea for Torres and cash. Jose doesn't rate Torres. This cash and sale of Evra would cover Baines ridiculous inflated fee. Bring on the pelters!
That is the worst idea I have heard in this shocking window so far.
A
What Torres and £25m for Rooney you mean?
Brendan81
16 Jul 2013 21:36:21
I think it's time we let Wayne Rooney go. With the window still open he has takers available and we can quickly replace him. Sick and tired.
We will be lucky to get a replacment as you can see nobody wants to sign for us fabregas moyes had to do something to keep the fans happy after the slap in the face he got from thiago with this team and no replacments we will be lucky to get fith even teams below us are strenthening woodward said ages ago no mayjor re tooling because we won the leauge so easily I for one am not bothered about this because I remember when we did not win a lot and the sooner it happens the quicker the yank b. ards loose money and sell because there is to many gullable fans who think we are going to spend big every year and rush out to buy season tickets just for once why don't you just say f. k you untill we see some signings we aren't buying a red united fan
16 Jul 2013 21:26:12
Barca will sell Fabregas if it involves Rooney going the other. After today's reports I really hope this happens. No one is bigger than United. Rooney has disprected us as a club. Get rid!
Karni
Karni, that is a win/win. We get a quality midfield player and get rid of a problem abroad.
A
16 Jul 2013 21:24:42
Not sure what to make of all the various defenders we are being linked to. Personally never thought that would be a priority this summer. Garay, Marquinhos, Rannochia and the list goes on.
Shahram
16 Jul 2013 21:14:52
If Wayne Rooney is so unhappy why doesn't he just do us all a favour and put in a written transfer request and piss off from our football club it's getting boring now! I hope we sign somebody soon but I don't see DM attracting the top players! Hope I am wrong!
16 Jul 2013 21:13:01
just read tht barca looking for alternative cb as thiago silva too pricey. if its true and garay is on his way, would it not be worth a punt to offer vidic and cash for fab?
No it would not be worth selling our captain to get Fabregas.
RRED7
Forgot to sign
16 Jul 2013 21:12:53
With all the talk of arsenal getting 50% of any transfer fee for faberges if they say they do not want him back. What happens if we swap Rooney for faberges. Do they get half a rooney.? Hehe
That would be one way of slimming him down. Throw in half of Anderson as well.
16 Jul 2013 21:09:00
Well looks like we have some intent to buy but we need to be more ruthless in the market to get our targets, I don't want to see us pay hugely over the odds but clearly we need to cough up that little something extra to get our men. Here is hoping to an eventful and eventually happy transfer window!
16 Jul 2013 20:58:38
David Moyes has made Cesc Fabregas his top summer transfer target according to former United defender Denis Irwin.
"United are going after Fabregas as keenly as they did RVP last year. Cesc will be their big summer buy. "
"It's the one part of the team that let them down in big head-to-head matches during the last season. Remember I told you here this time last year that United would get RVP? Well, they're going about getting Fabregas in much the same way"
In my eyes, as much as it would be a top signing. I can't see United pulling this one off.
We wait and see what happens.
Sooo no ronaldo or Bale?
I'm not ruling this one out. Everyone laughed off RVP, they aren't laughing now.
16 Jul 2013 20:51:24
Wayne Rooney wants out, and the board want him out - hence the quotes over the last few days (David Moyes will use Kagawa for the Rooney role as he'll be playing with only one up front). The board want him to hand in a transfer request to save on any loyalty bonuses. The proceeds from the Rooney sale and kitty money will be used to buy both Baines and Fellaini. A second bid for Cesc Fabregas will be submitted at £29.5 million but will fail again (United won't go higher - Barca want £35 million). A CB will be signed allowing Jones to be used in midfield also there will be 2 - 3 youth signings.
Ronaldo and Bale etc are not serious targets due to cost. The Glazers are restructuring their US operation so transfer spending will be somewhat restricted - which is quite disappointing.
To be honest I'm sick and tired of reading and hearing all about Rooney whether it is s*** or not.
If United aren't going to sell and prepared to run his contract down or make him earn another one, then tell him that is what we are doing and he isn't for sale and under contract.
If he is for sale tell him MU won't sell him to a PL rival, full stop, stop bleating get on with it and show us what you have or go abroad.
He has two years to go, MU are holding the aces.
It is world cup year and whilst he is guaranteed an England spot because we have no one else, he may just get on with it.
Let's all face it, if he wanted to stay he would have come out already and said so, so the silence tells you everything you need to know.
Please get the transfers sorted ASAP as we can't wait until the end of August as the start is too tough to be distracted with this rolling on well into August.
A poor start will really put DM under pressure and he needs to address all these issues ASAP.
I'm sure united are but for Christ sake let's have a Rooney amnesty for a while.
A
And you are? You seem to have it all worked out! Not an ounce of speculation involved.
17 Jul 2013 09:49:36
Please stop with the guess work! Plus leave your name! I enjoy the banter but I think with the childish keyboard warriors, its putting people off posting. let's all chill out and have good banter without overstepping the mark. Let all have respect for everyone on here, no matter who they support or what their opinion. It's exactly why Ed002 left and it goes to show that most people are not far behind the ones that got us 'Ed002 banned!'
Back to the post, Ed002 has said on other pages that PSG had a bid rejected for Ronaldo and that City are seriously interested. We all respect Ed002's opinion so it may dispel some guesses. We don't know and always need the Eds help. Unfortunately we've probably all contributed to the banning as everyone hands out unnecessary abuse in here with replies. Just because its not as vicious as others doesn't make it right. We all need to stop and think before we reply as we're the ones suffering! Anyway rant over! Hope everyone's enjoying the sun!
Adz
16 Jul 2013 20:49:28
Anyone remember when Torres went to Chelsea for £50M? There was huge surprise, but perhaps Liverpool had realised the decline was permanent. Just saying
I know what you are getting at mate and obviously agree. Rooney is still a top player, but we have seen the best of him IMO and I think SAF knows it too. Couple that with him being a pain in the ass and thinking he is bigger than the club and perhaps he isn't worth the hassle. That being said if he is still here at the end of the window I will support him.
Sydney!
Rooney is not over the hill. Worst still, he will be an angry man again and will be back to his best. Problem is that he will be doing it for Chelsea while we will sit here and realise what a total cock up we have made.
Don't say I didn't tell you.
Nomidfield
We have seen the best of Wayne Rooney. He will never regain his 2009/10 unplayable form. His body has caught up with him. Still a good player and will get plenty of goals, but we have seen the best of him.
Sydney!
Syd
You have gone on about Rooney being finished for 12 month.
I guess we will see next season but I think you are wrong.
As I have said a few times if he leaves I can only see him going to Chelsea and I think he will do very well there.
Jred
16 Jul 2013 20:49:21
If Rooney wants to leave is then IMO we should use him 2 get juan mata and romelu lukaku ( spelling ). I think that's a fair deal
16 Jul 2013 20:04:06
I can slightly understand Rooney's point of view, I must admit. Moyes' & Woodward's recent comments are rather strange imo.
I don't get it? First SAF stated he wanted a transfer (to which Rooney denied), then he is blatantly belittled as 'cover' for RVP. I don't get why he is being pushed out. He looks in far better shape this preseason than last, and if he rediscovers his form will devastate teams again. It's worrying. I hope there is a genuine, fruiticious plan.
Then again, he may have proper crossed SAF in some way and is being made to pay the price as many have before.
Everyone is maneuvering for Rooney to leave that includes Rooney
Every thing is strange at the moment
1) The rooney situation
2) The did we want/not want Thiago
and REALLY strange
4) Why are we bidding for someone who clearly has no intention of going any where!
16 Jul 2013 19:55:09
So it's looking more likely that Rooney is leaving and I'm all for that to be honest but one thing does worry me!.
Although we don't need a like for like replacement I do think we need another striker who is going to get 15-20 goals a season, if rvp gets injured our attack wouldn't be strong enough with just Hernandez and welbeck.
With that in mind who would you like united to go for?
higuain could be one option if he doesn't end up at arsenal but apart from that who else is there?
16 Jul 2013 21:04:51
We tend to play with one striker, so three out and out strikers should be enough. If we signed someone like Higuain would him and Hernandez be happy being second and third choice behind RvP?
We also have players like Zaha, Januzaj, Will Keane and Henriquez who are coming though and can play as strikers if needed.
The key is to replace Rooney with someone who can bring the team goals from midfield thus making us less reliant on our strikers for goals. This coupled with us shoring up our defence and midfield should mean we need less goals in the first place.
Jackson Martinez.
Please don't tell me your counting danny in your 3 out and out strikers shappy :)
johndenton
Very good reply shappy, Chicharito will easily get us 20+ goals
Shappy I see what you mean, there is a worry though as look how poor our wingers were last season the fact that evra scored more than any of our wingers is a cause for concern.
If Rooney goes I believe another striker and a scoring midfielder is required somebody like kroos.
Benteke for me could be a good addition doesn't look like a one season wonder and is likely to get you goals also adds a different dimension to our attack.
Im choosing not get sucked in to " he's definitely signing" talk but do think we are in for an interesting summer.
Shappy, I do worry about our options if Rooney goes and he isn't replaced and think we need to strengthen Midfield and up front.
You refer to Zaha (untested in the PL and Raw), Januzaj (talented but RAW), Will Keane (has he recovered from injury) and Henriquez (could only get an occasional game at Wigan)
Add that to Welbeck, who whilst talented is and always has struggled in from of goal which would leave RVP and Chico.
Love to see the young ones coming through, but this is a really significant season we face with City, Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs will all be stronger as they sense United could be weaker following SAF leaving.
A
16 Jul 2013 20:24:18
So, the latest suggestion is that if Barca receive a high enough bid, they will sell. So if we are serious, let's bid 35m Euros. Let's stop faffing and show out intent, whilst at the same time shutting KLOOT up
Lol i'm beginning to think this could happen :)
And can you see united going to 35m for cesc when the cheaper option does not even need to relocate fallaini I mean
Boarshaw, depends if utd want to buy an Aston martin or a tonka truck
I don't think United are worried about players housing. Just because Fellaini lives in Manchester does not mean he is the perfect choice. He probably has a red sofa somewhere.
16 Jul 2013 20:18:25
It honestly is enough. It is no secret that I have always defended Wayne Rooney. Got some stick from some on here for that (fan boi et al). But with whatever is coming out, why on earth is he not coming out and accepting/denying it. Its not one isolated incident, too many rumours, too many "close sources quote", too many taking words and interviews out of context. From the Ex Goalkeeping Coach to the Ex Fitness expert to Phelan to Rene. the list is endless. It seriously needs to stop, one way or the other. Rooney needs to come out and say something. If he wants out, it can't happen sooner. He has been a fantastic player for us, if need be, part ways! Whatever it is, this nonsense has to stop. By the way have we had one single Wayne Rooney comment ever since this drama started? What is the silence all about?
Deeps.
Deeps
We have 'discussex' Wayne a few times but I do think as a club we are handling this badly. The swirl of rumours isn't helping anyone, Wayne or the club.
16 Jul 2013 20:59:57
Rooney's silence is him following the advice he pays so hansomely for.
If he comes out and says he wants to leave then for whatever reason he doesn't then he will face a back lash.
If he comes out and says he wants to stay it weakens his bargining position and maybe puts off potential suitors.
His silence to me is proof enough that he is playing the game, if he wasn't then he'd just say what he wants.
So in order to get what he wants his agent is letting snippets of info out through "sources" which can be denied at a later point if needed.
And in order for the club to get what they want they need to let out certain infomation. Things like what Sir Alex said, like what Woodward has said, like what Moyes has said. These are carefully constucted sentances in order to put the club in a stronger position to get the solution they want.
If Rooney 'genuinely' wants out then he must put it into writing, waiving rights to his 5% of the transfer fee.
Sydney!
Deeps
I have said it many times over, his silence is unacceptable and I think it has something to do with undermining his financial position or leverage in whatever they are up to.
He tweets quite often but had not said one thing on this issue.
Shahram
AJH
I agree with you, I have no clue who is it helping. Infact I have been taken aback by Moysie's tone on Rooney in the last interview. You talk about the "glint" in the eye and 50 goals shy of Sir Bobby's record and next week boom, I need to see how I work with him. Weird for me. If there had to be a hardline stance taken, why not from day one. Or else do the sweet talking and flog him to the highest bidder if you want to sell him. What on earth is this?
Shappy, Syd, Shahram
If I buy your point, answer me. Why would Wayne want to come out as an absolute person and do his image a world of sh!t for an amount (5% of transfer fee) if he can actually earn that in less than 6 months? Makes no sense, yes he is thick but come on he is not that fecked up up there!
Deeps.
P. S - I want this to end as soon as it can.
Deeps, it is very simple. If Rooney genuinely wants to leave MU then he needs to put in a written transfer request and that means missing out on the 5% he would be entitled to. He would be strongly advised by Paul Stretford to keep his mouth shut so that he gets his 5%. Don't be fooled into thinking Rooney wouldn't take every penny he could get from this club. Rooney is very money orientated. I wouldn't be surprised to see him run down his contract just so he could pocket a £10m signing on fee somewhere else either next summer or the following summer. I do not see the club agreeing to his demands this time round and I do not expect greedy Wayne Rooney to back down either.
Sydney!
16 Jul 2013 19:41:43
As a few have said on here, there must be some substance to the Cesc rumours. Firstly, why would we allow it to go public? There must be some encouragement from Barca. Secondly, Neymar has joined and is the highest paid player at the club - higher than Messi. This will no doubt upset some of the ego's. He is also not getting as many games as he would here and is being played all over the place. I feel we really are in with a shout and I imagine that this is the stellar signing Moyes was on about. If I could dream I would have Fabregas and Ronaldo/Bale - but we may have to wait another year for one of the second two.
I highly doubt Neymar is on a bigger salary than Messi.
I think Barcelona would consider a sale as they do want Gundagon.
Sydney!
Syd
I agree, for the right figure, I think they will sell. Fabregas and Fellaini and Baines works for me. Might need a striker if Rooney goes as well.
Come on Fresh, how would Neymar be on more money than the World player of the year? Very unlikely
Sydney. your the next best thing to no Ed's!
You called the twist with Thiago etc.
What do u anticipate our transfer activity to be?
Garay, Baines, Rooney, etc etc.
Can u give us your predictions of ins and outs?
With much respect
Fred the red
Neymar's wage is 180 thou a week.
Its only what I have read from a number of sources. I have no inside knowledge so I can only speculate from things I read!
16 Jul 2013 19:40:21
Whilst I have been chiding the doom merchants, I am becoming increasingly bemused by what is going on.
If we don't want to keep Rooney we should get on with selling him. Referring to him as a back up to RVP is crass - I thought we were better than that.
Why on Earth would we bid for Fabregas if he doesn't want to leave and his club don't want to sell him. Just makes us look foolish and dare I say, silly.
God knows what went on with Thiago and Strootman but right now our transfer dealings look very amateurish.
So what next? Rooney apparently wants out and we seem to be letting him make the running whilst we appear no nearer to strengthening the weak midfield. It is all somewhat disconcerting and not the United way.
AJH, Stop making sense will you!
I think Moysie's comments were taken out of context and GDS had put it brilliantly! But if that is what had to come out of it, I surely think its stupid. A player who has given you 9 years albeit flawed should be a backup to a player who isent even a year old with the club? So much for showing respect. Anyways I think the quote was taken out of context. But with nothing coming of note as far as our transfer dealings, this statement makes no sense whatsoever.
Deeps.
I think interest in Strootman may have waned with Moyes' arrival. Thiago chose to join Bayern Munich. Perhaps something could have been done earlier on in the negotiations had MU not haggled so much. Thiago has said as soon as he spoke to Pep, his mind was made up. Not sure what to make of this Cesc bid AJH. I think MU are looking at a bigger name to replace Rooney in the team. Perhaps Moyes sees Cesc playing in the hole with RvP ahead of him? Fellaini & Carrick in midfield? Kagawa & Nani as inverted wingers ;)
Sydney!
Just a response to the 'back up to RVP' comment, mate.
As I think GDS mentioned a day or two ago, that's been totally taken out of context when you see the rest of the comment.
Just a tacky headline to try and stir things.
As for the rest of it, if SAF was still in charge, I would bet things would be moving a lot quicker, but with Moyes being new to the club and having to start from scratch in evaluating all he has at his disposal, I think things were always going to go a little slower than usual.
Well AJH you have been warned look at the reality off it all why did we not recruit quality for the midfield in recent years gigs still there scholes comming out of retirement does it not tell you money was not available and why should it be now, did SAF go because he could take the squad no further without additions. and let's be honest we are three maybe four players short off being CL contenders
That's what worries me. I do not want Rooney to go. But if the club and Moyes are insistent they want him out, then they way they're going on about it is ridiculous and not the united way.
When fertile wanted someone out, they were out and that was that.
The whole Rooney saga is destabilising the club and we will lose focus on what actually matters.
Rooney is a fantastic player and he has another five good years in him. Are we seriously allowing him to leave and go to Chelsea or arsenal, where he will no doubt flourish and dare I say, be a total pain in our back sides for the next five years. Make no mistake, Rooney is not over the hill, not finished and if we let him go, we will all regret it. I shall be back to remind everyone in May if this happens.
Nomidfield
Boarshawred, no it tells us that none of the players SAF wanted were available at a fair price. Nasri has confirmed he chose City over us. Sneijder, his agent and Moratti has confirmed we wanted him. We bid twice for Thiago two years ago. Lucas Moura's agent confirmed that we had agreed to sign him until PSG's Leonardo insisted he will join them instead. There is no evidence to suggest MU are not willing to pay for players. MU are a self sufficient club and generally will not overpay for players. That doesn't mean we are skint. People like yourself must see how difficult it is buying top players with clubs like Chelsea, City, Monaco & PSG around. Then you have the top clubs like RM & Barcelona and their warmer climate to compete with. MU need to be shrewd and perhaps a little lucky. I think we may have to pay over the odds on one more occasion too. We may need to overpay for Cesc. £26m is a good first offer, £35m may well be an acceptable amount. Fingers crossed anyway.
Sydney!
16 Jul 2013 19:35:44
Is there any chance this Fabregas bid was to destract all the other top teams in England from their targets?
Send them after a player that doesn't and won't leave Barca while we make signings without intervention or competition from Chelsea, Man City or Arsenal?
J J
JJ
If only, I think we want Fabregas but are fannying about.
16 Jul 2013 19:33:23
I have to say, I very much expected this whole Rooney saga to intensify after Moyes said that 'if RVP gets injured, we will need Wayne' and also 'we will see how we work together'. They for me, were two telling remarks. We have his replacement at the club already, so we don't need a like for like, however I do hope that we use the cash wisely. As I posted earlier a summer of Fabregas as the main signing with Fellaini, Garay & Baines and I would be very happy going into the season. Part of me is also happy that Nani will get his chance, he doesn't necessarily deserve it, but with no decent replacements available and the possibility of relying on Young & Valencia all season and you can see why he is staying.
16 Jul 2013 19:31:13
Why haven't you realised what we have done. Put in a undervalue bid for a player knowing full well that Barcelona would reject it straight away. Of course we will say that we are in for big players but know that there is no way Barcelona would accept that kind of figure. Its like offering 9 million for Baines. pointless
Or going like going in with our maximum offer would u say? :-)
Aye, throw in your top bid, or whatever the selling club are demanding, first instead.
Glad you're not negotiating for us.
All clubs including Sugar daddy owned clubs will go in with a low first offer. It's called negotiation.
Sydney!
Commonsense tells you that if they paid £25mill for fabregas and don't want to sell then offering what they paid is pointless
johndenton
John, MU would have been well aware that the first bid will be rejected. You have to start negotiations somewhere and you would be incredibly dumb to go straight in with an £35m offer.
Sydney!
16 Jul 2013 19:29:08
I love Wayne Rooney and will be devastated when he leaves, but that's exactly what needs to happen. It's a shame he is not of the Ferdinand type mindset, no emotional ties to the Club as a youngster but fell in love with the Club and couldn't play for anyone else. Seems he wanted us to show ambition by signing top players, yet he can't handle the competition. I thought better of the man. Great shame and I thank him for all the memories, but time to get rid sadly.
16 Jul 2013 18:37:58
So reports that Rooney wants out again.
IF this is true & he's thrown his Teddy out again then I hope we play hard ball & flog him to the highest bidder.
Money gained towards a silly money bid for Bale or Ronaldo.
We couldn't get thiago and strootman here, what makes you think we can convince ronaldo or bale to come here?
If Wayne goes, the money will be put in glazers pocket while we go and get some other player with potential.
To be honest, I'm not impressed with Moyes's dealings so far, fergie was a master at dealing with players and now we are seeing the difference between him and Moyes.
Nomidfield
16 Jul 2013 19:04:28
The reason I want rooney gone has just been reported, I quote ''Wayne feels after nine years at the club he has nothing to prove''!
Really is this the attitude we want at our club? At Manchester United every single day u need to prove ure worthy to wear the shirt regardless if ure 7 or 27, its a privilege, an honour.
Gd bye Wayne.
Wayne u have been evicted please leave the Manchester United house
I don't see MU caving-in to his demands this time round. Although missing out on targets isn't helping.
Sydney!
Chris
My less than favourable views on Rooney have been well documented but we are starting to treat him rather shabbily. For Moyes to state we need Rooney "in case RVP gets injured" was crass and showed a lack of class. I'm thinking the club should grow up and deal with the issue.
Oh I totally agree to an extent AJH, this whole thing could of been handled better by both sides.
Chris
Did you check the article. Who did it exactly quote? "Sources close to Wayne Rooney". I understand he is no saint, but you lot are doing your best to latch onto anything and everything. Last I heard a major tabloid reported wages in the range of "180,000" to "300,000" for our man Wayne. Not too sure are they.
Deeps.
AJH
I think there is a lot more going on behind the scenes that we are privy to and DM statement is related to this.
Rooney's silence on the transfer request in my view is very damning and I honestly think his camp has been up to no good for months now and the club is fed up with it and hence making clear public statements.
I am actually encouraged to see what Edwards had to say and have said this before, we hard going to play hardball with this boy and whatever happens will be on our terms.
shahram
16 Jul 2013 19:00:29
I don't believe for one minute that we would put a £25m bid in for fabregas without some encouragement from the player and then make the bid public knowing arsenal have an option on him and citeh and chelsea would no doubt outbid us.
Making it public makes no sense whatsoever.
Im not saying we didn't make the bid but it doesn't add up.
Anyway with thiago and probably cesc not available who else is there? Somebody suggested hamsik earlier which is a great shout but napoli have just lost cavani so would they sell? Probably not.
Gundogan would be the best option IMO and has always been my preference but dortmund lost goetze and maybe lewandowski so no chance so who else?
Eriksen, veratti, pjanic, ganso and maher are all decent options IMO although personally i'd love gundogan or wilshere but we wouldn't get close to either of those 2.
Thoughts anyone?
BABY FACED ASSASIN
It seems to be pretty clear that Rooney is leaving. Chelsea will be interested but my feeling is that he will end up at Citeh. They will pay the money and think that it is some form of payback for not getting RVP as well as knowing that those in Old Trafford will be slightly uneasy at the prospect of Rooney getting fit and in form next season. The bottom line in all this is money and Citeh have what it takes to keep Rooney where he wants to be in the North West.
Jack Tarr
16 Jul 2013 18:31:17
Rooney has asked to leave after recent interview by DM, I would be tempted to swap Rooney for mata if recent reports are true - this giving us the creative spark we desperately need, then we could get Suarez (yes I know) for 30mil to replace Rooney, this would prob be the end of evra and could tempt baines just a thought haha
No way would I. Or any of my mates that watch united home & away cheer that dirty piece of sh1t.
We know what you mean but 'the end of Evra' happened a few seasons back.
Leaving aside that McMoan would never sell anyone to Lpool you expect us not only to sell you Suarez, but for just £30M. what are you on?
Puzzled
Seriously?
Suarez will never wear a United shirt. Fact.
Rooney for Mata has legs though.
United are not interested in signing Rooney on a new contract / revised contract and are playing hardball in terms of he's not for sale either.
Question - would we really run down a £30m asset to zero value in just 2 years?
No, I didn't think so either.
I think Rooney has fallen out of love with the club, simple as.
His problem is only Chelsea, given transfer moves elsewhere at PSG etc, would be the only ones who could afford his fee, wages and are showing an interest.
And no I don't think even Rooney is stupid enough to sign for City.
Chelsea, Mourinho, London, becoming a coveted asset / fabs favourite etc. all stacks up to me.
The 'He's not for sale' rhetoric from Moyes is just a smokescreen to ensure:
a) Rooney submits a formal transfer request which reduces our current contractual liability to him in wages
b) bumps up the price
Is a fit Wayne Rooney worth £30m? Yes
Is the Wayne Rooney of last season worth £30m?
No
United, for once, have all the cards here thanks to the purchase of RVP last summer.
Personal view, well that tends to change day by day if i'm honest (!) however IF Chelsea were to make an offer of say Mata + £10m I think we would find that very hard to refuse.
As for Mata. we should be putting in a cheeky bid for him anyway as somehwhat incredulously Mourinho doesn't rate Chelsea's best player from last term.
That best be a joke! He could be the greatest player ever to have lived, I still wouldn't have the rat anywhere near our club
Please reconsider your comment. Evra has been a great servant to the club, whereas Suarez has abused our player and has played for our rivals. Suarez is not going to play for United. I very much hope this post was sarcastic.
Mata is most definitely worth more than 30m. Mata + 10m is just a ridiculous suggestion
Jose had come out and said he is keeping Mata so that's another idea panned.
16 Jul 2013 18:30:44
When players like:
Hulk, witsel joins zenit
Cavani joins psg
Falcao, rodriguez, moutinho joins monaco
Shows how football have evolved. Its no more playing for big clubs in major leagues and winning major trophies. Money is vital factor for some of them.
Sid
20 years ago the teams with the most money were the big teams. Players back then went where the money was, it just so happened that back then that the big clubs were the richest. These days every other billionaire wants a club, and with billionaire owners aplenty, the richest clubs are no longer the best, in the short term at least.
I think we'd all love to see Moyes as another Busby or Fergie with Steve Round as another Jimmy Murphy/ Brian Kidd and bring through 5-6 world class kids from the academy but football has moved on. For every Robin van Persie who moves to win trophies you have half a dozen Falcao's who want the money.
We have to spend to compete. Not stupid spending we're never going to compete with City or PSG but we should be able to match Juventus or Bayern.
Mort
To be fair, I think PSG are good enough to win the Champions League but they wouldn't be as strong if thiago silva, zatlan, lavezzi etc didn't join. I take your point.
PSG are a very big club, and they have a very good chance of winning trophies.
SHOCK! lol
Its always been the way for some mate
16 Jul 2013 18:30:43
So Wazza is angry and confused.
Angry: Good. But be angry at himself for not playing at the standard expected when he signed his mega contract.
Confused. Not good. He should know he's been below the level of RVP, aspire to surpass that level and not just expect his mega contract to be renewed.
I'm sure opinion will be split on here but I'm 100% behind the club, no one is bigger than the club, no one has a devine right to be the main man and no one is indispensable. Ronaldo never acted like this, he worked hard at being the main man rather than sitting back expecting it based on past form.
I think it's about time Rooney is sent packing and we replace him with a couple of younger and hungrier players.
Ben
16 Jul 2013 19:02:41
Personally I think the club is in the middle of trying to off load him. They have let certain things be said to the press in order to put pressure on him and to make us fans more comfortable with selling one of our best players.
U can't help but think the rooney situation is linked to ronaldo, i'm sure wazza has a 'higest earner match' clause in his contract and if Ronnie came home wazza would be in a better negotiation situation, he could sit tight for a year get even more mega money and then leave next summer at a cut price and get a huge signing on fee.
But in sure Stretford has his best footballing interests at heart ;-)
16 Jul 2013 18:30:25
If the reports on a website are to be believed and I am sure they are or react thennRooney should just jog on. The guy is a joke! In 2010 he slapped in a transfer request because we weren't signing the best players, now heis moaning that he is not guaranteed a start and that we have better players (RVP) in his position. The guy and his advisors are a joke and I would like the club to get rid.
Bazza
16 Jul 2013 18:30:22
The "big" signing SAF spoke of is the appointment of DM. It won't be a player. We are even lucky if we get Fallaini or baines much less both. DM is not a "high profile" manager and doesn't have the attractive prowess as JM, Anchelotti, Guus Hiddick etc. No one wants to play for (well not any big player).
Maybe if ronnie came back other big name players would shortly follow.
diego
And the size and history of the club, the talented players in the squad and the fact we are one of the biggest wage payers in England mean nothing then?
Rolls eyes.
Mort
16 Jul 2013 18:28:32
I can understand people being frustrated. Bids for players we won't get, linked to donkey fellaini and possibly worst of all new deal for nani!
16 Jul 2013 18:27:21
If Fat head wants to leave then we should look to do a player swap and maybe add money.
Juve Rooney for Vidal or Marchisio.
Chelsea swap him for Mata, Oscar or Lukaku.
Arsenal, only wilshere but injury prone.
Madrid, obviously we all want Ronaldo but Ozil or Khedera and Di Maria. {Ed029's Note - None of this is going to happen.}
As I was saying earlier - you are only going to get an exchange (assuming you mean without cash involvement) if the two players are of a similar standard. So may I suggest something more realistic
like Rooney/Carroll?
Puzzled
I know ED but it's worth a shot surely. anything can happen in football.
Lol Puzzled you made me laugh. Have you even watched Rooney on form before?Still, even when off-form he's miles ahead of Carroll.
Nicolas_United
Lol puzzled u are a funny one, rooney for carrol, we are not that stupid to have him at our club, no real big club would.
Chris the Redman - OUCH!
that hurt.
Puzzled
16 Jul 2013 18:16:36
Rooney is apparently unhappy. he's said he wants to leave
Lots of possibilitys.
Swap for fabregas
Swap for mata
Personally ild sell to the biggest bidder and break the bank for bale
SPB
Neither of those are an option.
Fabregas doesn't want to leave and Vilanova doesn't want to lose him.
Mata doesn't want to go and Mourinho doesn't want to lose him.
Another ridiculous FIFA-style transfer 'suggestion'.
16 Jul 2013 18:03:06
Haven't posted on here in a while but thought i'd have a go at naming some midfielders we could possible to for!.
Kevin prince boateng is a name that springs to mind not sure how he would work in a midfield two but personally can't question his talent.
Hernanes is another option which I feel could be viable.
Also don't see why we don't go in for kondogbia at the price of about 7.5mil shows a good investment and the guy is obviously talented.
16 Jul 2013 18:30:14
Boateng is garbage
I'm sorry but he's a obvious improvement on any of our midfielders bar Carrick!
That was me forgot to sign in
16 Jul 2013 18:02:53
Sky reporting that rooney is unhappy at manutd and is looking to leave
Sid
Seems like games via the media to me. I think he wants to leave and we want him gone but we want him to put on a transfer requeat and he doesn't - probably due to money.
I think no name has hit the nail on the head.
Whilst a lot of rooney fans were delighted after moyes side stepped the whole issue in his first press conference, some of us were not so convinced and this thing looks like being the running story of the summer.
I still think we will shift him and generally this has been a very odd and interesting transfer window to say the least.
I am absolutely clueless with what is going on and what is real and what is media bs is very blurred.
It all leads me to think we maybe on for a mega buy towards the end of this window rather than some of the lesser names being mentioned.
Interesting times ahead.
Shahram
16 Jul 2013 17:59:44
The Cesc situation is interesting. Are we watching a dance worth millions of pounds with whoever blinks the loser? It is well known there are financial advantages for the player who doesn't ask for a transfer so is Fabregas supposedly wanting to stay only the first declaration that he is not asking for a transfer to force Barca's hand to make them decide to sell him?
Have United really made a bid? We are not known for making random bids, after all I don't recall any real confirmation we agreed to meet Thiago's release clause by bidding it. If we have made a bid for Fabregas it is extremely hard to believe we would do so without encouragement to do so.
My hope is this is not a new variety on "we were interested in this top player but" and that United haven't changed tactics subtely to show we are actively trying but look what happens, then suddenly Fellaini arrives because it was him we were after all along.
It has been an interesting window so far but the game is afoot and we shall see what the reality is, still I remain concerned that we will truly deliver the quality we need and it will be another window of look who we were interested in but. And then certain posters will say it is proof of our willingness to spend!
Red Man
Red Man
Good post mate, I share your concerns. Would we really have bid with no encouragement? Seems very odd
Agree 100%.
The oddest transfer window that I can remember for years and difficult to say what is going on.
Does anyone know what is going on with the Nike Deal, this was suppose to get announced already?
Shahram
16 Jul 2013 17:58:14
Fellaini and fabregas would be a fantastic pairing in yhe middle swap rooney for mata job done. Well may be not mata as realistic hope the other two true though
16 Jul 2013 17:56:18
hey please post the league codes of the fantasy premier leagues of gagus and tk-red
The code for the league I set up is:
15522-6942
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fantasy. premierleague. com
TK-Red
16 Jul 2013 17:56:17
I can't help but feel that we've got to start seriously bucking-up our ideas in terms of persuading players to join our club - particularly those outside of the Premier League. Other European giants use so many underhand tactics to obtain an early advantage in any transfer, whether its using a former player/role model to 'groom' the wanted player, making contact and giving promises the players parents/families, or even getting to 'know' players agents better, etc. When the player becomes available, other European giants who have been in dialogue with the player, his family and his representatives for months, maybe even years, already have a foot in the door. We then turn up in a suit and tie, stiff upper lip with all things fair and say "We're Manchester United, and we're interested in you young man {whilst pulling the players cheek}. Would you like to play for us son, and maybe meet Bobby Charlton if you're lucky?" and then wonder why the player already has eyes for another club, with his agent and his family telling him to join Real, Barcelona, etc.
We apparently have a vast scouting network all over the world including South America. Why were we not talking to Neymar, Lucas, Oscar, and their families 4-5 years ago, and 'selling the United dream' back then?
I hear from various people that United only target players who are interested in playing for them. I agree, that's a sound strategy, but rather than each Summer going out to tour in Asia so we can raise a few quid in the Uncle Malc's back pocket, let's do regular annual tours to South America where the focus is purely towards selling the club to potential future players/superstars. Get the players to drop into South American academies and meet the kids, and try to increase our fan base out there where the actual talent is, rather than focusing on making a few quid in Asia where footballing talent is no where near in abundance in comparison.
Yes, I accept we'll always have the UK climate against us, but if someone has grown up dreaming of playing for Manchester United, the climate factor no longer becomes a significant factor.
Sorry for the rant! :-)
WF Red Devil
Sorry but that is nonsense. Loads of stories of SAF sending youngsters shirts with their name on and the likes. Just because we don't use ex players to plant ideas of interest in the media like Real doesn't meam we're not as bad with regards to tapping up as the rest of them.
Ben
So where did we sign Hernandez, Henriquez and Varela from? We are making steps into South America, but the Latina clubs will always have a bigger pull due to language and culture similarities which we just can't compete with.
16 Jul 2013 17:50:58
so a few weeks ago when everyone was saying strootman had virtually signed and was just yet to be confirmed, well. explain what went wrong? hate when people pretend they know but really are as much in the dark as the rest of us
I certainly didn't
Never a Manvhester United £15m+ signing.
Dylan
Well whoever said it left no name, so it could well be you ;)
Well
There were some of us who did not think he is on the cards for us and definitely not at 15 million pounds. I did think thiago was a done deal but also thought Bayern was possible, although I don't see how he can get a lot of game time. Schweinsteiger and Martinez are still better than him and will always be first choice.
Shahram
To be faie Strootman rumours went deathly quiet as soon as DM took over, even a little before so he was probably never a DM target.
16 Jul 2013 17:45:40
So there it is from the horses mouth. The reason he went to barren was pep. Period.
Pep or moyes and it was a very easy choice and this will be the issue for a couple of seasons until everyone sees that moyes can win and is a fantastic manager. I guess for now we will have to get what we can so I can see fell coming in as he knows how good moyes is.
I don't think he was unsure about Moyes, but more a case of working well with Pep.
Pep helped bring him through at Barca and he's apparently referred to him in the past as his 2nd father. Pep also now manages probably the best team in Europe. TBF he maywell have picked Pep over just about anyone!
This is an exception. Pep bought Thiago through and he is bound to look uo to him. Foreign clubs rarely have the same coach fot 2 years so foreign players musy surely sign for clubs expecting the coaxh to change during their stay.
Ben
16 Jul 2013 17:28:37
anyone kow if halilovic has moved yet, last I read spurs were all over him, surely we have to be interested, maybe not the answer right now but definately worth buying for his potential
16 Jul 2013 16:40:58
if not fabregas what about Ibrahim afellay, skilful and fast.
Veratti, Gundagon, Modric are all options.
Sydney!
Injury prone and fulfilled potential, no thanks
Don't think there is any chance of verratti or gundagon modric a maybe but would be surprised if he left mAdrid after one year, afellay not for me to be honest
Jred
Obviously I ment unfulfilled lol
16 Jul 2013 17:52:33
Hes a winger and injury prone
I think Veratti would only be possible if Rooney was open to a move to PSG. I don't think he is. Gundagon is available if his release clause is met. Modric could be a real possibility if Perez makes it clear he wants to let him go. That being said Carlo is a fan of Modric. Are there many other possibilities?
Sydney!
16 Jul 2013 16:44:06
feeling a bit bemused, like everyone I assume we are all wondering why on wot looks like a whim have we bid for a player who by all accounts is unattainable, by all reports barca don't understand it either, its a bit worrying that in moyes's presser after the thiago news broke he told us that he had never said he was a target and we were chasing and negotiating for players and he was happy with the way they were progressing and then this today, i'm not saying we won't sign the 2 or 3 world class players we need but this bid is starting to look panicky, queue the sycophants.
Personally, I really wanted Thiago, because he has potential than Cesc. However, a deal for Fabregas makes sense. We improve at CM, and Barca have money to improve at CB. Also Fabregas is far more proven than Thiago and more experienced. Cesc would be perfect next to Carrick and maybe Gustavo or Vidal (I wish).
Totally agree. DM said a few days ago that people are working really hard behind the scenes to bring players in and then it turns out they are bidding for a player who wants to stay at Barcelona? G. G
Getting embarrassing? Everybody knew Everton would reject £12m for Baines, then no further bids. Guillem Ballague said DM wasn't sure about Thiago? Only person on earth who wasn't! Then this supposed bid for a player who has no interest in joining?
Pete H
16 Jul 2013 16:38:11
Why don't we use 30m for Verrati? A risk we need to take.
So when it gets rejected u can whinge about pulling power etc
Would be a great signing
Jred
He's not worth 30 million.
16 Jul 2013 16:37:44
So what if we don't get Fabregas, maybe we will, but what if we don't? That's two high profile rejections from players in one transfer window.
What effect would it have on the image of the club overall?
I would agree with people on here with say we're taking a blind bid at Fabregas. I think we must have had one positive sign to do so.
I think we may have had more than one. We know Barca need money, so they can sign Thiago Silva, and we know they need to sell to get that money. Since they have Iniesta, Xavi, Busquets, Song, Roberto and Rafinha, they may deem Fabregas a good option to sell. Other than that they may sell Sanchez, but I think one of those two will leave.
16 Jul 2013 16:19:33
Guess that means cesc is not coming then, with both him and barca stating today that he is happy at barca
Whit
16 Jul 2013 15:54:35
Strootman for 15. 5 and thiago for 22. Combined 37.5 mil
Well at least we will not get the same old " no value in the market" bull.
Guess we will have to wait and see what happens if anything
I get the feeling Moyes is lining up Fellaini for us, so he didn't want Strootman.
Gar
Probably nothing, we couldn't get anywhere near barca with this midfield in the cl, in fact we have been poor in the cl for a while.
We are not competing with the best anymore and it frustrating to see it and have to admit it!
I really hope so. very good news.
16 Jul 2013 15:53:32
Not a rumour but I beleive Adnan Januzaj has a signed a long term deal.
Tomr
Let's hope he has, he is a very gifted player that could become great one day.
Nicolas_United
Cant find anything official just usual personter crap, agent said he believes he will get a new contract, fingers crossed.
16 Jul 2013 15:53:05
Make of this as you like, just walked passed fellaini in Altrincham where I work. You heard it here first. Salford viking
Fellaini lives in Manchester.
16 Jul 2013 15:46:14
Reports adnan Januzaj has signed a new contract! Anyone else hear the same? Great news if true!
Sorry Caolan_2, have you not been reading the last week or so, this is not a site to post good news! ;)
I hope this is a sign along with being on the tour, Moyes is oing to give him a chance!
16 Jul 2013 15:45:06
So Villanova has declared Fabregas doesn't want to leave barca, end of story? Well Fabregas himself has not squashed the rumours as of yet, so until he does we have a chance, I said it last nite, utd rarely bid for a player without some sort of prior knowledge from the player that he's interested.
Moyes will not buy fellani aa the 'big' marque signing.
On another note I see after the news today from Villanova boarshawred has appeared again
16 Jul 2013 16:35:02
You hang in there CTR a midfielder will arrive to help you sooner or later, you're bound to grab one of the straws!
No name if u read my previous post on here u would see I said the deal is tricky and unlikey but then u guess brains have never been your strong point, another gooner with worried I suspect lol,
Thanks for the reply thou x
16 Jul 2013 17:32:30
Another Gooner with worried. quality as ever
Haha is that all u really have? Really no name? I have given u plenty of opportunity u get a real dig in over time, yet as always ure lack if intelligence let's u down once again.
The fact u leave no name while attempting to have a dig just shows ure lack of maturity.
So please go on I beg u have a real go, I welcome it, show us all ure quality.
If u fail to have a real come back again ill take it as u have failed again, i'm sure there are plenty on here that would like to see u try but if u are the sort of person I suspect u are, u will simply hide under a no name again and leave another unintelligent reply.
Go on go for it u know u want too ;-)
16 Jul 2013 15:40:15
For the last few years I've been an admirer of Hamsik. Great passer and scores from midfield. With a ball winning mid beside him, he could be a great threat. I realize that Napoli is in no need to sell after receiving that ridiculous sum for Cavanni, especially one of their prized assets. And Hamsik may want to work with Benitez. But I just don't see Napoli winning trophies over Juve and Milan - mmmaaayyybbbeee Inter. With the Cesc looking less likely to move (never looked like a deal would be done IMO) and with Thiago and Strootman out of the picture, might be worth a punt at 20-25mil.
16 Jul 2013 15:40:13
I might be in the minority, but I am glad Nani is getting a new contract. There is no doubting his ability, and I think if DM does indeed see him as a key player then that could give him the confidence boost he needs to really kick on. He is still young at 26 and is approaching his peak years. I think he could still be a massive player for us.
16 Jul 2013 15:29:59
Adrian Durham of the daily mail with the quote of the century ( embarrassing for Gunners ) :
"At Arsenal, Fabegas wasn't a big fish in a small pond, he was an Abramovich sized yacht in a bidet "
I recommend reading his article, quite interesting and a little biased towards our team. Coukdnt be more enjoyable.
Mick
Lol he just reels in the gooners and spuds all the time its amusing
16 Jul 2013 15:20:49
Its time we start chasing players that wants to play for us rather all these wild goose chase. before we used to attract big player to come to us now days we struggle to sign them. no wonder even wayne think is bigger than club. I guess Soon we'll be back to unknown player.
ferdcoast
16 jul 2013 15:19:54
anyone got the code to join the fantasy football please?
PSG appear to have the code, and Bayern oh sorry that's for real.
16 Jul 2013 15:02:55
Think the main thing is now wer going to get stuck wit a mediocre midfielder in fellaini which is disappointing. Wud love fabregas to come but can't see it happening. Think the most realistic signing we could make now would be eriksen from Ajax.
Cork city red!
16 Jul 2013 14:58:29
Alot of sceptics on here but I for one cannot believe that we have made an approach for Fabregas on a total whim? There must be more to it than that. For a club with an image like Manchester United who spend vasts amounts of money on public perception and professionalism to bid for a player who we have absolutely no chance of getting and who isn't in the slightest bit interested in joining us? doesn't make sense to me. We must have done a bit of groundwork or have been given a sign that Fabregas may be interested in a move. Perhaps RVP has some involvement somehwere along the line?
For me the club are in a potentially vulnerable position in the sense that DM has been appointed when perhaps a lot of fans expected a name more established at the top level. So to then dive head first into a situation in which they could potentially be made to look stupid just doesn't make any sense. Perhaps Fabregas will sign, perhaps he won't but something has gievn Utd a clear indication that they should proceed with an offer. Is this the 'big' signing Fergie hinted at?
Stuey
16 Jul 2013 14:57:42
Can we actually even buy any of our targets
Time and time again we lose out on players we are man utd, its getting beyond a joke.
No offence to Moyes but who's going to want to come play for him? Not proven in winning trophy's no champions league experience and has only managed Preston and Everton.
Never won a single major trophy and yet gets the job at the best football club in the world.
I guarantee if fergie was still manager we would have signed up thigo and ronaldo would have been more than just a dream
Zaha said himself fergie was the reason he turned down his boyhood team arsenal.
Inmoyeswedonttrust
Dear sir
point 1 - sir Alex is still around
point 2 - he missed out on many many targets
ngiak is not sure what your point is
gan
It doesn't matter if sir alex is around he doesn't take control of transfers does he?
And yes fergie missed out but the players he bought from missing put were top players.
And the point is if u can't understand english my friend is that MOYES isn't big enough to attract world class players to the club.
So unless he wins things I don't expect any class coming.
inmoyeswedonttrust
Wow, have some patience, the transfer window has been open for 16 days, and Moyes has said we are happy with any transfers negotiations, and the club has bid for players, which they would not do for no reason.
16 Jul 2013 14:49:33
OK so barca won't take 30 mill euros,. let's see what they say to 40 mill.
we need a top class central midfielder so badly we should be making offers to clubs they can't refuse.
much better to spend the extra money on the best than bring in more mediocrity ie fellaini
This is embarassing, we look stupid now.
Fellaini would be a good signing. add some steel to our midfield, and is proven in the EPL.
16 Jul 2013 15:05:44
Can't see why pay that much for him. Should have just coughed up the money for thiago. Hopefully we get fabregas but can't see it happening. U never no tho.
Cork city red!
16 Jul 2013 14:16:19
So no Fabregas, Thiago or Strootman but Nani is to be offered a lucrative new contract! And perhaps we'll sign Fellaini and perhaps Baines. Anyone else feeling slightly underwhelmed by all this?
There's plenty of time left and, besides, just maybe the hands on coaching style of Moyes is just what Nani needs to knock some consistency into him.
TK-Red
I want to know the truth about the Fabregas fiasco. Why have we bid for a player who does not want to leave to a club that don't have to sell? It's ridiculous? G. G
FFS Quit with the negative vibes!
Our Squad is full of mediocrity players. We really need more quality players.
16 Jul 2013 14:07:31
Football phrases I hate that I keep seeing on this site - 'Smoke screen' 'Oozes class' 'Don't shoot the messenger but. ' 'Release clause/First option clause/any type of contract clause' 'Done deal' 'My source tells me'
In all seriousness love the site it's all good fun until the season starts!
RedRosie
Funny you should say that now "dont shoot the messenger" but "my source tells me" that the fab bid is just a "smoke screen" although the guy "oozes class" we are not seriously interested anyway arsenal have "first option" wrote in his "release clause" we are actually after Felainni and you guessed it its a "done deal" but "any type of contract clause" which sees him being guaranteed playing time will not be offered.
Haha well played good sir. Well played.
RedRosie
16 Jul 2013 14:00:45
Surely we can't be daft enough to put in a bid for Fabergas unless we knew that he is open to a move.
Tito vilanova just said that fabregas wants to stay.
So what do we make of all this? The more rejections we get, the more farcical we look as a club.
Nomidfield
16 Jul 2013 13:57:20
Barcelona are saying that Fabregas has had offers for other team's (plural) buts says it is his "dream" to stay at Barcelona.
16 Jul 2013 13:47:27
What happened to Strootman? Papers keep saying he is going to Roma.
16 Jul 2013 13:43:05
Now that Vilanova has said Fabregas won't be leaving, I guess it's time to put this story behind us. It was highly unlikely that he would join anyway. Now, moving on, we're running out of options for a quality midfielder. Gundogan is an option but Dortmund would not want to lose another promising young midfielder in the same season. With Illiaramendi having joined Real would Moyes maybe go in for Modric?. Or maybe a cheeky bid for Wilshere?
Vilanova quotes from early summer!
Dylan
Or maybe a cheeky bid for fallaini
Modric seems the best option now I would suggest.
Wilshere is highly unlikely seems to be set on arsenal, plus arsenal are in a good position financially now and don't exactly need the money.
So options are limited imo.
We could go for Vidal, Marchisio, Nemanja Matic or maybe a cheeky bid for ozil/mata. Though i'd love to see Vidal or/and Koke signed. Maybe even Eriksen (sorry about the spelling) and Draxlar.
Spdcial K
Vidal would be the best option for CM next to Carrick, he would be absolutely perfect with his superb energy, stamina, passing and tackling.
16 Jul 2013 13:42:40
Fabregas was just a smokescreen for fellaini. Now having missed out on two targets we can sign fellaini and all be happy at having signing. Meanwhile the rest of the champions league roll around laughing.
Its my opinion that fellaini would bring a lot to the team but we also need another more creative player too (I. e modric/fabregas)
16 Jul 2013 13:38:11
Another one for Ed2 saying Fab won't move then.
16 Jul 2013 13:37:06
Just came out:
Barcelona midfielder Cesc Fabregas does not want to leave the club this summer to return to the Premier League, says manager Tito Vilanova.
"I know he has received offers from other teams, " said Vilanova.
"But Cesc has told me he wants to stay here. He has told me it is his dream to stay with Barcelona. "
Vilanova added: "He doesn't want to go to other teams for money reasons or playing time. He knows there is competition for places here, but his decision is to stay. I am relaxed about the situation. "
So that's that then! Move on to the next target.
16 Jul 2013 13:23:13
luis gustavo - can we sign him pls?
16 Jul 2013 13:21:59
It's ok the board talking about stellar signings but we have to attract them to the club first.
Unfortunatley this seems to be United's main problem now. We are being turned down in favour of cardboard clubs like Chelsea, PSG, Monaco, Man City and clubs in Russia due to them being able to offer ridiculious amounts of money.
I am also hearing that Chelsea, City and Arsenal are going to throw there hat in the ring for Fabregas. If that's the case we can kiss that one goodbye. money talks!
What is really worrying is the fact we keep missing out on big players and are fast becoming a bit of a laughing stock.
If Fabregas doesn't come off which it won't where next for Moyes and United and what if this keeps happening?
Simmo
Our stella signing will be fellaini
16 Jul 2013 13:17:15
Strootman has signed for Roma
Jred
16 Jul 2013 13:04:56
Why are fans slating moyes already and he is doing what's being needed the last few seasons a CM but some fans are very negative have patience lads and stay off twitter!
Sorry had to get that out there!
16 Jul 2013 13:01:40
Cesc wants to stay at Barca. What a waste of colossal time.
16 Jul 2013 12:57:33
So that's another one put to bed. Fabregas wants to stay and Barca are happy to keep him. Offer rejected. Now then United, who are we really after?! I honestly think baines and fellaini are the most likely. anything else is mystery to anyone so we are all basically guessing.
Nozzla
I hope not fellaini we need world class.
Agree nozzla
16 Jul 2013 12:49:12
So the script seems to be changing again, if anything our targets are returning to the increasingly unimaginable. I see a lot of us getting over excited over the next few weeks with todays rumours.
Fabregas to move to United only if Barca do want to sell, they won't want to but football is a funny game.
Mata for Rooney, Mata is probably better for us to be honest so I would take it at the moment. can't see it happening.
Fellaini probably could happen and is most likely of the midfield targets, could be a good move for us though I don't like him as a person and hate his hair.
Baines, maybe the biggest chance of coming along side Garay. Both would be good for our defence and I expect to see them soon.
I do think a bid for both ronaldo and bale will happen towards the end of the window but I see neither being accepted.
All in all I think it may be Garay, Baines, Fellaini and an attacking mid/ striker if Wayne goes. I would be fairly happy to see those three though in my eyes a summer of Garay, Fabregas and Fellaini would be perfect, mata or Ozil for rooney and I would be extatic.
1redarmy
1 defensive midfielder is not enough for our midfield problem we need a creative player as well
johndenton
16 Jul 2013 12:48:55
Anybody see slysports transfer update b4 when the generic a website transfer "expert" who only talks in a serious but exited tone said that if cesc had a straight choice between arsenal and us he'd rather us. Interesting! but like I said it was slysports and we all remember the bright yellow band with " tv : hazard chooses Manchester united"
16 Jul 2013 12:41:22
Well Barca saying Utd haven't bid, Utd saying they have, Utds bid is less than Barca paid for Fabregas
This is tailor made for Kloot smacks of BS with no intention of getting anyone anygood
I have doubts we have made bid for fab
United bid fully knowing it will be rejected, then we go and get fellaini and the spin will be that the rest don't want to play for united but fellaini does.
In the meantime, we would have got a thug of a midfielder, with not much skill or technique.
I'm afraid this could be happening a lot in the future, like it or not, our club is not seen as fashionable or a top club anymore. A quick look at our midfield will scare all the top players away.
I have no malice towards David Moyes, but when fergie retired, the whole football world was looking to see a replacement big enough to fill his boots. Mourinho, pep (bayern already got him), klopp, ancellotti? All managers with charisma, winning mentality, tactically astute. And we went a got Moyes! Is it any wonder that no top player wants to come to us?
Nomidfield
16 Jul 2013 12:38:36
Tito on Cesc;
'I know he has received offers but I spoke with him and he told me expressively he wants to stay. '
--------------------------------------------
Why on earth would we bid for a player if he does not want to leave his current club? It makes little sense.
IF we really thought we were going to be able to sign Fabregas; why would we wait until AFTER Barcelona lost Thiago before making a bid? Surely they would have been more likely to accept a bid for Cesc a few weeks ago as it would have helped them to convince Thiago to stay (they prefer him to Fabregas)?
My suspicion is that a 'bid' was made for Cesc in order to leak the story about how we want Fellaini and Cesc as our new look midfield. When Cesc doesn't happen - at least they can say they signed one of their targets (in Fellaini).
redseven
16 Jul 2013 12:09:57
Also reading that Nani has been asked to stay and will get an extension. Part of me is glad because there is no better replacement out there and despite being inconsistent, he is still superior to Young and more versatile than Valencia.
So much has happened while I have been away from the news!
Fresh!
Nani is garbage not worth his squad number, how many chances is he going to get before we get rid. how is he more versatile than valencia who drops into a right back when needed?
johndenton
16 Jul 2013 12:06:25
So I've been away for a few days and I come back to see so much has happened! As per we are oh so close to sealing the Garay move. And I hear we have made an official bid for Fabregas. If this is not good news then I do not know what is. I would take Fabregas over any other central player we could get, I think he is fantastic and would have a brilliant partnership with Carrick. If we could get Fellaini as well then I think we could be really talking. It could well be the case that we play 3 in midfield and pack it a lot this year given that we are linked with mostly central players and next to no wingers.
It is also brilliant to hear that Moyes has said Januzaj will get more chances. That's brilliant to hear for the lad and also for us fans. There is nothing better than seeing a young lad blossom and develop into a great player. Moyes is going to give everyone a chance, great news.
Fresh!
16 Jul 2013 11:59:20
Hard to know what is really going on with the Fabregas rumours. Neither club has said anything but a group of influential journalists were briefed on the bid yesterday. Either it's a smokescreen for a different bid to be made by us or we are trying to unsettle Fabregas with a view to a deal being concluded at a much higher price. He clearly doesn't want to leave Barca and even with Neymars arrival he should get more game time as Xavi ages. Would Barca really be prepared to let Fabregas and Thiago go? I have my doubts. Fabregas alongside Fellaini might work but Fellaini alone would not solve our midfield problems.
16 Jul 2013 11:59:00
Well heres a shocker if true Nani getting a new contract if so my first big disappointment in Moyes
16 Jul 2013 11:34:01
Not sure if this idea was brought up before but would Toni Kroos not be the perfect buy for United? A goal scoring midfielder which United have been crying out for years. The only thing i'm not sure of is if he would be capable of playing in a midfield 2 with Carrick as neither has much pace. Anyway just an idea.
RedBoy
We should be buying world class reinforcements not other teams cast offs
johndenton
16 Jul 2013 11:29:44
hii guys I just want to ask one thing. who is better suited to manchester united considering thr needs of the team. fabregas or modric?, I think we have more chances of capturing modric which I think would be a great buy.
singh
16 Jul 2013 11:27:33
Why have united not made a move for
kurt zouma he is the best centre back
ive seen. I was amazed when I found
out he is only 19 he's a beast and his
passing is as good as rios
16 Jul 2013 09:14:23
Ed, Benfica has just signed gaitan's replacement ( considered)
Don't you think the garay rumours are just a smoke screen? Or are Manchester United interested in both.
Or we are looking to offload nani first before making any move for gaitan?
Things are very confusing at the moment. It's impossible to get any information.
Rodio17 {Ed007's Note - It doesn't look like Nani will be sold on any time soon so I would be surprised to see any move for Gaitan, I think the Garay move has more chance of happening.}
16 Jul 2013 11:23:46
The transfer domino game is just about to
start -fabregas-rooney-mata-fellaini-baines
move one and the others will go
Fabregas has once again said that he doesn't want to leave. Mata will not leave (he's their best player).
redseven
I seriously doubt all those transfers would happen, but our first team would be pretty impressive if it did!
RVP
Kagawa Fabregas Mata
Carrick Fellani
Baines Vidic Ferdinand Rafa
DDG
Should Rooney stay and I would be happy if he did, over one of the above joining, he could slot into a variety of positions
One can dream I suppose.
RedDub
16 Jul 2013 10:59:27
Lets say this rubbish about Jose not liking mata as a player and would invole him in a swap deal for rooney to be true, imagine getting mata and Fabregas, holy sh!t, I can dream right?;-)
What team would not want Mata in it? What a dream it would be. let's hope jose is that stupid.
What an amazing summer that would be, where would you play Fab though? as a CM partner with Carrick or in a fluid attacking three with Kagz and Mata?
16 Jul 2013 10:03:01
There is no way we are getting fabregas. I won't allow myself to fall into the mental trap of optimism when it comes to united and transfers. In this case you can pick your reason. 1)the player doesn't want to leave 2)the club just sold thiago 3)united would have to pay huge money to tempt barca. Cesc is the dream fit for the open cm role, as he can get forward much better than carrick, but were never going to sign him and we still need another attacking player that would be our marquee signing. I hope we don't sign Fellaini. You think he makes it into the barca/bayern/Madrid sides? So I suggest you join me and proactively avoid the inevitable disappointment. And maybe something odd happens and we get pleasantly surprised. (Ahem, cesc and Ronaldo, cough cough turnaround spit twice)-KG
For those persistent optimists, a website is reporting that Barca would want the bid raised from 25mil to 35mil (believe what you will). If someone from Barcelona actually says over the phone that they would accept 35mil, I would fly a plane of cash to barcelona right now. Wouldn't even take the time to land the plane, just drop it in bundles as we pass over the Nou Camp.
United Press make a big deal about going for Cesc Fab, only for Barca to deny or reject Bid out of hand.
DM then goes and buys Marouane Fellaini, as the only other option out there.
My thoughts exactly norts
Tito has come out and said fabregas does not want to leave barca.
Fellaini it is then!
Nomidfield
16 Jul 2013 09:58:34
Well still no word from us or Barca concerning the Fabregas bid. I am of the opinion that no news is good news its been almost 24 hrs since the formal bid was made and I would think unless there was interest from the selling party in moving the player on the offer would have been rejected out of hand publicly. I believe we have no chance of getting him for the reported £26 mil think it will end up being much closer to £40mil but I have a good feeling about this one he is a terrific player and a perfect example of the "grass is not always greener" footballer.
16 Jul 2013 09:44:04
barca saying they haven't recieved a bid wtf
I've just seen the same thing Mick.
I think it's highly unlikely it's would be published on t. v sites, that are usually reliable had we not made a bid.
Fun & games.
It's called playing mind games with United lads it happens all the time, did Bayern not 5 says ago say they weren't interested in Thiago at all and then a few days later they signed him, I don't think Fab will come but clubs do this all the time to try and improve bids.
16 Jul 2013 09:24:59
So if the papers are to be believed we are after fabregas (this one confirmed)& fellaini. Must admit that would be fairly solid and both could interchange with Carrick and kags. I am of the opinion fellaini could be what we need to bring steel (and filth) to the midfield, let's face it keane, viera, yaya all had/have their moments. What do you think? Still can't see fabregas coming to ot though.
16 Jul 2013 09:17:34
Are you seriously considering that we would go in to a transfer blind, without knowing the ins and outs of any deal? What has been written on here today about the 50% clause is entirely speculation and only the clubs involved will know exactly what the "clause" is, if their is indeed one at all. Now I see why Ed002 said, never get in to finances as it just creates more problems!
Jase
16 Jul 2013 09:12:10
A very entertaining game at Leigh sports village last night saw a United eleven defeat FC Bruge 1-0.
It was a young Reds team against what i'm led to believe was mainly the Bruge first team. Bebe, Macheda and Petrucci were all dissapointing and now need to be moved on. Both Bebe & Macheda were substituted and the team really improved from that point. Probably themost improved player over the last 12 months at this level has been Charni Ekengameni and again last night he had an oustanding game. Tom Lawrence & Ben Pearson came on in the second half to give a glimpse of the future, with Lawrence netting the winner.
Raffa
Have you seen much of pettrucci before last night, he's had a lot of injuries but was very highly thought of at utd. the games I've seen him play over the last 18 months he was very good
johndenton
I have the same opinion of Ekengameni, he is the tough tackling centre midfielder that a lot of people think we are crying out for in certain games. He has improved ten fold in the last 12 months and is definitely the next one to keep an eye on after Januzaj. I am a little surprised he isn't on the tour but would expect him to maybe be in the Carling Cup squad this year and maybe get on the tour next year and see what he can do.
I think it is a bit harsh to say Petrucci should be moved on based on him being disappointing in his first pre-season match. We would be selling half of the first team if that was the case!
16 Jul 2013 09:07:40
I absolutely don't understand what Mr Woodward point is when he keeps talking about the stellar signing. What is he trying to prove.
UNITED!
That we can make stellar signings? People on here think we are going to be 'a slightly better Everton' when I think it is clear Woodward and Moyes want us to be challenging for 4 trophies.
16 Jul 2013 08:18:19
Interesting to read on Bayern's official press release, that Thiago has signed a 4 year deal, contracting him to the club until 30th June 2017.
Deduct the 4 year term from the above contract end date, which will give you the date of when the contract started.
It seems as though Thiago made his decision 3 weeks ago.
WF Red Devil {Ed007's Note - All contracts end 30/6.}
Boom. You just got edited.
16 Jul 2013 11:04:36
Learn something new everyday! :-) Thanks Ed.
WF Red Devil
16 Jul 2013 13:18:35
All contracts end last day of June so the bosmans can sign first of july but I do think the decision was made weeks ago.
16 Jul 2013 07:43:52
Anyone remember Dennis irwin talking about how 'we will move heaven and earth' to sign fabregas last month? Turns out he was spot on that we want him. Maybe we were never as much in for thiago as people were suggesting and was happy for him to join bayern.
16 Jul 2013 00:17:15
Just wanted to post on here to see if anyone else is crying out for a cm with real technical ability. No disrespect to Jones who is a great player for us, but with the way football has been progressing I feel we need a world class midfielder to enable us to make the next step and compete against the best teams in Europe. I like the fact that we have put in a bid for Fabregas who in my eyes is the ideal signing and I really hope we can sign him, last season in my opinion we couldn't keep possession well enough and a midfielder who is technically gifted would come some way to helping us rectify this for next season.
DJ
Agree but we will need more than just fab to get united where we want to be
15 Jul 2013 23:50:17
Hi Guys
First time post so please be gentle with me, someone has suggested a swap deal with Chelsea Rooney for Mata does anyone think this is a good idea, it maybe a way of sorting two problems in one without the need for any financial outlay ie we move on an unsettled player and get an attacking /creative midfielder something which we all agreed we need. We would still have funds available for our other targets, I personally would like us to make a bid for Michu as he seems to be a different style of forward to the ones we have
Marv73
In my opinion this would be a very good move, even though for me it's highly unlikely. First of all I don't see where Rooney would fit in our team now that Rvp is the main striker and rightly so and it would be better if we used Kagawa in the hole next year rather than on the left wing because he will be able to show his full talent only in this position. We shouldn't use Rooney on cm ofc we should buy a true cm instead. And I don't think he would be good on the wing either.
Then we would have Mata who would be a very creative addition to our side and with still many many years in front of him. Mata on the left wing, Kagawa in the hole and Valencia or Nani or even Zaha on the right wing all behind Rvp would be a perfect forward line, wouldn't it?Let's just hope it happens.
Nicolas_United