Manchester United Banter Archive July 16 2015

16 Jul 2015 22:59:59
From what I'v read, LVG is ready to activate the release clause in Benteke's contract(32.5mill). Apparently he favourited a tweet linking him with a move to MUFC where he would be backup to Rooney.

He has since unfavourited the tweet but I think for what he's capable of and being 24 where we would easily get a good 6 years out of him, the 32.5million doesn't seem that bad.

16 Jul 2015 23:19:06
I really hope we look at other targets first. I'd love Lewandowski. What a player he would be for us

16 Jul 2015 23:34:21
Papers say lpool have him sigh of relief he's good enough for them but not us we need a world class striker hfully lewandowski if he's available
Personally I think we're going to struggle to get a striker this season

16 Jul 2015 23:41:42
I'm quite relieved to see that Liverpool have activated his release clause. He is a good striker but he is not world class and would be a poor signing on that basis. For a little more we could potentially sign Lacazette, Lewandowski, Benzema or Cavani. I'd even take Harry Kane ahead of him given that by the end of the window we're likely to have lost three of our homegrown players (Evans, Fletcher and Rafael).

For me Benteke suits a style of play that I just don't want to see us playing.

17 Jul 2015 09:17:03
Matt,

I am guessing your joke went unnoticed, it did make me laugh, and when people respond genuinely it also makes me laugh so well played.

16 Jul 2015 22:20:46
Respect for Evans if the move comes off,a decent player who never gave it 'do you know who I am'. All the best JE.

16 Jul 2015 23:47:13
There was a point a few seasons back where he was selected to play RM ahead of Rio - and I remember thinking to myself that at that point, based on form, he was probably the best CB at the club ahead of Rio and Vidic (this was towards the end of their United careers, I should stress). If only he could have held onto that consistency and continued to develop we might be talking about who to sign to partner him. As it is - I can only wish him luck at Everton. I think he will do well there.

17 Jul 2015 09:21:19
I don't remember Evans ever playing right mid, I bet Ronaldo was furious!

16 Jul 2015 20:56:45
Instead of Ramos and Otamendi we should be looking at the Korean defender chelsea are linked with Park Di Bus.

16 Jul 2015 21:22:16
Very funny. People think that Ji Sung Park was the 1st Korean to play for us when he was actually the 2nd. The 1st was Yung Li Sharp

16 Jul 2015 21:23:05
Nice, they also want the dutch defender van der isnobus. He's only a backup though

16 Jul 2015 21:32:46
Like Utds equivalant was called De Gea last year? In which of course he had to pretend to be a bus by himself!

He did well. MotM for most of the season. Hope he stays as a lone competitor to Chelsea's system.

16 Jul 2015 22:08:28
meaowwww

17 Jul 2015 03:59:16
finally they got new tyre for the bus

16 Jul 2015 19:41:13
42million pounds for a 29 year old CB is just too much imo.

People will argue that he is world class and this is the going rate in the market.

Is it really? Which other teams are paying that amount for 29 year old players?


Have we learned nothing from the RvP transfer? Ramos will ask for huge wages but the total financial outlay for this one transfer is just way too much imo.

16 Jul 2015 20:00:58
At that price I agree totally, far too much, no matter how good, rather Otamemdi for about £10m cheaper.

16 Jul 2015 20:10:49
I agree it is a lot of money. but if he produced at the top level for another 4 years in which time we won at least 1 premiership and champions league then we would all say it was money well spent.
He looks like the sort of player who will play well into his 30s.
Also. for all the RVP issues he did win us the premiership in his first year!

16 Jul 2015 20:43:11
I would pay that for him and he is a top class centre back wit lots and lots of experience.

16 Jul 2015 21:16:21
The Sergio Ramos posts are becoming more repetitive and mundane than last year's Arturo Vidal fiasco.

It'll be Nicolas Otamendi. Simple as.

17 Jul 2015 08:28:58
For the amount we are splashing on Ramos, personally I'd rather buy Laporte from Bilbao! Cracking defender with years ahead of him! On the talk of young players, Mitrovic! Everyone is going after him now? He'd be great in the centre of our forward three, and at 20 the guys a tank! Sod £40m on Cavani, get Mitrovic for half that!

16 Jul 2015 18:52:18
I don't think we will be bullied or out fought in any game next season, a fast start in the league and a comfortable CL qualification would send out a message and the fear factor will return.

16 Jul 2015 19:01:02
We're hoping but yeah l think possession wise we look good for dominating

16 Jul 2015 18:43:07
Anyone got any funny dream team names just for a bit of fun

I have. leave my arselona
Borussia teeth
Norfolk and chance
Not in my mum's forest

16 Jul 2015 18:52:58
Deportivo lacka-talent

16 Jul 2015 18:53:02
Your mum's athletic.

16 Jul 2015 18:58:26
Inter MiNan
FiorenTina Turner
The Neville Wears Prada
Murder on Zidane's Floor
Puyol Pants Down
The Balotellitubbies
Hakuna Juan Mata
Rodallega Bombs
Teenage Mutant Ninja Skrtels
Moves Like Agger
Peter Odem Chickenwingies
Lad's on Toure

16 Jul 2015 19:00:58
My little bony

16 Jul 2015 19:05:18
My old Uni intra-mural team were Crystal Phallus. The real Palace treated the team to a VIP trip, when we sent a letter trying to blag a free kit. My second favourites ever since :)

16 Jul 2015 19:10:11
Inter ya-nan

16 Jul 2015 19:15:07
Basel Fawlty

16 Jul 2015 19:16:28
Dyslexia untied

16 Jul 2015 19:17:26
FC Copenbadly.

16 Jul 2015 19:18:01
Ronnie Loves Young Boys FC

16 Jul 2015 19:27:48
Queen's Park raisens

16 Jul 2015 19:34:18
On , and Borrusiamunchenballsack.

16 Jul 2015 19:36:28
Made my day MPez.

16 Jul 2015 19:36:59
Haha some good ones there.

Ain't got a kalou
Debbie does gallas

16 Jul 2015 19:41:48
Who ate all Depays

16 Jul 2015 19:51:23
Chamakh my bitch up.

16 Jul 2015 20:10:42
Joke team names?

Liverpool F.C??

16 Jul 2015 20:28:31
The Balotellitubbies, Bayern Bru and Athletic Dildao are some of my favourites.

16 Jul 2015 20:33:37
Super Cali go ballistic, Celtic are atrocious.

Not really a team, just a fair assessment of the wit prevailing on this site. Makes me proud to be a Puntypool Town fan.

Amazing how a few good signings can lift the mood.

16 Jul 2015 20:44:40
Unathletic Madrid
Bolton Fondlers

16 Jul 2015 20:50:56
2 girls one cup.

16 Jul 2015 20:57:03
Schezney Hawkes
Baines on toast
Teenage Mutant Ninja Skirtels
Nice to Michu
One Size Fits Hall
Fiorentina Turner
Colonial Getafe

16 Jul 2015 20:57:15
Nice to see my screen name made the list cheers weggy

16 Jul 2015 21:05:39
Sevilla bum ache

16 Jul 2015 21:12:28
Who let the ngogs out.

Taxi for me that was shocking! Ha

16 Jul 2015 23:36:48
Phantom of the Chopra
How I Met Your Mata
Slumdog Mignolet (oddly fitting)
Cesc in the City
50 Shades of O'Shea
Tea and Busquets
Bendtner Over
Diego Costa Coffee
We Arbeloa Lot of Teams
Krul Runnings
Only Kruls and Horses
Bacary Lasagna
You Can't Handle The Huth
Wanyama's in Pajama's
Moleicester City
Stroke Titty
AC Me Rollin'
Romasexuals

16 Jul 2015 23:37:25
Muller Reus

16 Jul 2015 23:39:36
Tea and Busquets
Murder on Zidane's Floor

16 Jul 2015 17:49:34
What are peoples thoughts on Kasper schmiechel. As a possible new schgoalkeeper😃

16 Jul 2015 19:17:21
I'm with you on that Ken think he will become a great keeper.

16 Jul 2015 19:38:42
If he has half the potential his father had, step aside De Gea;)

16 Jul 2015 21:25:06
If he had half the potential of his Dad he wouldn't be playing for Leicester I guess

16 Jul 2015 22:32:19
Good number 2 definitely

16 Jul 2015 16:26:33
A better rumour: Liverpool have apparently met Benteke's release clause. I hope they do, he is 'good' but that is not what we are trying to go for here.

16 Jul 2015 16:48:32
Do you think villa leaked false info regarding our supposed bid to hurry Liverpool up?

Does that sort of thing happen?

16 Jul 2015 16:57:51
i bet that Liverpool fan who was laughing at us getting Benteke and them signing Reus isn't too happy.

16 Jul 2015 16:58:07
We've got Depay, darmian, schneiderlin and schweinsteiger for around £10m more than they've spent on firmino Benteke and ings. Sir Ed Woodward!

16 Jul 2015 17:32:36
Discount Dave, that's what I've been thinking, either the club or his agent putting pressure on lfc to make it happen.

16 Jul 2015 17:38:20
I wouldn't even be okay with signing Benteke, I'd be gutted if that is what a great club such as ourselves did when we could well get Lewandowski.

Benteke is well suited to a mid table team like Liverpool with a small minded manager who will make a push for the Europa League.

16 Jul 2015 18:03:06
There's a rumour down here that Sherwood himself leaked stuff to local papers to press Liverpool into bidding

16 Jul 2015 18:24:15
Well, obviously the proof of the pudding is in the eating, but I think, compared to Liverpool, we've had a relatively good window so far. I'm not sure what Benteke brings to them that they don't already have in Sturridge, assuming he's fit. Is he supposed to replace Balls on Telly? Are they thinking Benteke will play the combined Sterling Suarez role? If Coutinho, Henderson and Firmino gel, then they could provide plenty chances, given their fast counterattacking style. But on the other hand it could all stall like it did last year against us, and having made little if any improvement in defence, it could also go the other way with inadequate cover for a shaky back 3.

LVG and Rodgers seem to be about as opposite philosophically speaking as could be, but I'd venture to say this is make or break season for both of them.

16 Jul 2015 19:13:02
If you go on the scouse page one of them said he w8ll be there cantona you have to laugh

16 Jul 2015 20:51:51
Sorry. 2 goals 1 cup.

{Ed001's Note - were you just naming your favourite film?}

16 Jul 2015 14:02:53
Ed, what do you know about Götze's situation at Bayern

{Ed007's Note - We have this European site for these type of questions.}

16 Jul 2015 13:14:58
Ed001,
When you have time, could you tell us how you rate United's four new signings? Input would be greatly appreciated

{Ed001's Note - Depay I have not seen a lot of, what I have seen suggested he has great potential and could be a real threat, but I would like to see more of him to judge him.
Darmian again I have not seen a lot of, but what I have seen made him look a good full back and you desperately needed a right back. So long as he can stay fit, he should be an immediate upgrade to the first team, whereas Depay might take a while to slot in and make a place his.
Schweinsteiger was a special player and even if he is not the player he was, he should still be able to slot in and provide leadership and experience that was badly missed last season. With Carrick's fitness being so unreliable, he will be essential in my opinion. He might not have the legs to get up and down the pitch as much as he used to, but that is not what you needed when you have players like Herrera and now Schneiderlin. I think he is a good signing.
Schneiderlin I think is the best signing of the lot, for me he was Southampton's standout player of the last few years and the one they will regret losing. He is far more than a player who will sit in front of the defence, he is more of a playmaker who will help out covering defensively. I really like Schneiderlin, get the best out of him and he is a difference maker for you next season.}

16 Jul 2015 14:33:34
Completely agree Ed. Schneiderlin is the smartest signing we've done for years and much like Herrera last year, he isn't a big marquee signing, but will be one of our best.

16 Jul 2015 14:37:55
Top analysis Ed001, and thanks

16 Jul 2015 16:28:35
Thanks for then input ed much appreciated

16 Jul 2015 16:18:55
I always thought Schneiderlin became that good at Soton when Wanyama joined him.

{Ed001's Note - I think he was that good and made Wanyama look better.}

16 Jul 2015 12:20:29
It looks as though we could probably have 4 more players come in yet. Potentially two new keepers if both Valdes and DDG leave. We still want a centre back (Otamendi) and a new striker (Lewandowski).

I think the two I mentioned are at the top of the list for their respective positions. But who knows about the keeper situation. Apparently we inquired for Oblak, that's all I've read recently.

16 Jul 2015 12:34:11
My preference would be Jasper Cillessen with Johnstone as backup.

16 Jul 2015 12:41:53
Why does everyone keep banging on about getting 2 keepers in? Before valdes came we were fine with just lindegaard as back up, and Sam Johnstone has to step up some time, he's 3rd choice as it is.

16 Jul 2015 13:03:44
I agree Redandy, Lindegaard has always been fine as back up, never moaned to the media, never refused to play, if DDG does go then we just need a new first choice keeper, would blood Johnstone in the league cup this season and see how he gets on.

16 Jul 2015 13:14:10
Cillessen has to be top priority, with Lindegaard playing back up

16 Jul 2015 13:15:32
Lindegaard must want to leave too surely?

16 Jul 2015 14:10:31
why Fresh noobody will match his wage. Obviously he has no ambition to play

16 Jul 2015 18:27:06
Pay oblaks release clause and use Johnstone as number 2

16 Jul 2015 12:19:34
Just wondered if anyone knew if Draxler is likely to move this summer, i haven't heard anything of him for ages but he is a tremendous talent. Would love to see him in a united shirt.

16 Jul 2015 12:14:17
So Schweinsteiger will be the first German first team player. I know we had Ron Zieler in the reserves, but Schweinsteiger will be the first to play for us. Why do you think that is? Over the years there have been some great Germans, some playing in this country from Klinsman, Ballack, Ozil and Didi Hamann, also I liked Ziegler as well for spurs. However, there wasn't any drawn to our great club, I find that strange.

Do you reckon it was weather, wages, content with being at Bayern, Ferguson or just club morale's? I should imagine Louis Van Gaal was a big factor for this transfer though.

16 Jul 2015 12:37:22
Germans are known to stay within their country or nearby, similar to English players.

I think it's a mixture of that, not targets or not needed at that moment of time. But maybe Fergie just didn't prefer them?

Either way i'm happy we started with our first one being the German Captain, will surely be a pulling point when looking into buying other Germans.

16 Jul 2015 11:33:00
If the reports and interest in Lewandowski are to be true and we do sign him, I can see us being a real force this coming season.

We would undoubtedly have one of the strongest midfields in Europe and possibly one the best attacks too.

I also believe having a player like Lewandowski would compliment Rooney, who I believe only shows his true ability when he has competition, he needs big Robert to be sniffing down his neck to make him perform to his best.

16 Jul 2015 12:39:16
Not a huge fan of Lewandowski, great goal scorer, but i just don't think he has the physicality for the premiership. I think we need a target man to play at the tip of a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3, someone like a Costa. I like Bacca, Cavani has the physicallity but a bit to pricey, Kane was never going to come, but can you imagine the price after City and Sterling! I like Lukaku though but no chance. I really can't see a big name striker coming in while Rooney is still there and i don't think he will be leaving any time soon.

May I ask why you think we have one of the strongest midfields in Europe? don't get me wrong i'm excited and can't wait for the season to begin, i also think we could do well in the league, but Europe is a dream for me. When you think Carrick has not played in the competition for a year and is getting on, Schneirderlin has not played in it before, Schweinsteiger being sold by a club with a fantastic midfield, Felliani will probably push up top, Herrera, who i love btw, has not played in the top tier European competition and well Young and Valencia. Maybe we should be a bit reserved with Europe, the league maybe, Europe no.

I'm not trying to be a pleb, but i'm still a bit reserved about Europe, however i think Louis Van Gaal's system could work well in the competition though.

16 Jul 2015 13:51:57
If we sign Lewandowski, Benzema or Lacazette. I genuinely believe we have a strong shot at the league this year.
I feel the Schmidfield actually improves us enough to have an outside chance alone!!

16 Jul 2015 14:15:17
Adam, RL does not lack physicality in any way shape or form. He is a beast and would kknock kane and Lukaku about for fun. He is a better player, than Costa by a mile and he is not a tramp like Costa either the guy is top class and if we get him it will our best striker signing since van nistleroy

16 Jul 2015 14:18:30
I disagree about Lewandowski, I think he is the perfect fit for this league. He has pace, strength and the technique needed to play in the premier league. He would do amazing for us!

Well when you look at all the elite clubs midfielders such as Bayern, Barca, Madrid, the players we have can be as good as their respective opposites.

For example let's look at Barca.

DM: Sergio. We have Schneiderlin, Carrick and Blind. I believe Carrick is as good passing and defensive wise but is much slower. Schneiderlin on the other hand has the potential to be much better IMO.

CM's: Iniesta and Rakatic. We have Schweinsteiger, Herrera and Fellaini. Now I know these are all different players but but all are equals in ability and can compete well against eachother.

Finally CAM's: Barca have the likes of Messi and recently Turan. Where as we have Mata, Di Maria (if he stays) and Rooney. On that basis we have as good of a midfield as the European Champions now.

Lets just hope we have a good pre-season and we can see if these players are as good as I am making them out to be.

16 Jul 2015 15:11:19
I appreciate what your saying Weggy, I really like our midfield and the fact we have a very diverse set of players. However, I will wait to see them play against these elite teams before I say we have one of the best midfields in Europe. They all have immense skill, but have yet to play with each other, that coupled with our a main midfield recruit yet to play in the champions league. I would rather be pleasantly surprised in Europe, than disappointed. let's conquer England before Europe.

16 Jul 2015 15:47:37
I totally agree, we should focus on the league and make sure we're the best team in England before Europe.

I see you points and I guess on paper it looks like one of the best midfields in Europe but as you say, we can't really judge until we've seen them play together.

Hopefully the players gel well together and we have a strong foundation in the midfield for many more years!

16 Jul 2015 11:03:21
If, as looks likely given Ramos been using us for a better contract, we sign Otamendi, who do people see as our first choice CB pairing?

While we know LvG likes Smalling, I think he'll go for Otamendi (right-footed) next to Rojo (left-footed). Plus, both Argies who know each other well, seem like good mates and both a bit feisty, taking no prisoners. Would maybe be like Vidic and Shawcross together? Though maybe have to watch the yellow cards.

Can also imagine a bit of banter with Big Bastian in front of them, with Schweinie turning round and snapping at them: "Achten und konzentriert zu bleiben! Wer gewann den World Cup, chaps?"

16 Jul 2015 11:12:38
I really don't think Ramos is. I believe Ramos actually wants to move. I just don't believe that Real will let him leave unless we offer ridiculous money and for a 29 year old I don't think we will.

Otamendi would be a great signing and I think LVG will pair Smalling with him. Smalling came on leaps and bounds towards the end of last year and really stepped as LVG had said. So I think he will be given the chance.

16 Jul 2015 11:17:44
i think lvg has shown it will be smalling

16 Jul 2015 11:37:51
I think Ramos would like to leave but he won't be allowed to. For that reason I think it will be Smalling and Otamendi.

16 Jul 2015 10:17:31
The whole Valdes thing gets more bizarre, he has tweeted photos of the 3 under 21's games he played last season, so there seems some disagreement from him. Do any of the eds have any ideas on what the hell has happened? LVG says he refused to play but he did play a few games. I'm confused!

{Ed001's Note - I am confused now. I assumed this was a recent thing because the only games he missed that he was asked to play for United, at any level, were before he got a contract. Since getting a contract he has made himself available as specified in his deal. So I was assuming this was since he came back from turning down Anatolyaspor, but it seems I am incorrect in that assumption. In which case, Valdes' contract specifies he would have to be available for U21 duty if called upon, he would not have been able to just refuse and the club would certainly not have just ignored it back then if it had happened. This seems to just an excuse for moving him out.}

16 Jul 2015 10:41:01
Cheers ed, very strange!

{Ed001's Note - it does seem odd, but it is not the first time clubs have used an excuse to move a player on that was not strictly true. In the past we just never had such access to the players to get their replies, especially under Fergie as the media would never have touched a story without his agreement.}

16 Jul 2015 10:43:38
Yeah lvg is clearly just annoyed with him! I bet he's found out valdes has been advising de gea to move to Madrid

16 Jul 2015 11:04:15
He also wrote "Respect" on the photos. I have a feeling this is an excuse to sell him. Maybe he and LVG fell out?

Either way I hope he does well where ever he goes.

16 Jul 2015 11:14:27
Very odd. I agree with ED it's just an excuse to move him out as he has played games but then again we don't know what is said behind closed doors.

16 Jul 2015 11:51:15
We've seen how ruthless LVG is if this happened last season then he would have axed him right away and brought in Amos as back up to degea not waited till end of season then axed him he's just looking for excuse to get rid IMO

16 Jul 2015 12:44:42
Its possible valdes has said to LVG that he wouldn't play any U21 games next season and that's why there seems to have been unexpected exit

16 Jul 2015 13:35:21
I would imagine valdes thought he would be 1st choice keeper this year and now it has become clear that United are looking to either keep DDG or buy a new 1st choice keeper he has got a little wound up and had a row with LVG

16 Jul 2015 09:26:47
eds am I not allowed post about the dream team mini league I started as seems to of been overlooked

{Ed001's Note - ah I left that for Ed007 to deal with because of who it is. I don't want anything to do with that particular rag thanks.}

16 Jul 2015 11:20:32
Nicely said ed

16 Jul 2015 07:44:41
A couple of funny true stories from Ed002 on the Liverpool page about footballers :-

{(a) a Premier League player who couldn't drive had his agent organise the purchase of an expensive car that was rolled out of the garage when he was visited by the press etc. for interviews, demanded the car was replaced a year later with the latest model in a different colour. He still couldn't drive - but it was image. It had a couple of hundred miles on the clock.

(b) a northern-based Premier League player who had put clothes in a washing machine but had no idea how to turn it on repeatedly rang his agent in the South East for instructions on how to use it. This was eventually solved by the agent persuading someone at the Worsley Park Marriott to send a housekeeper (or similar member of staff) around to his house to do his washing and instruct him and his girlfriend in the use of the machine. I will say that both players involved are English.}

16 Jul 2015 08:43:04
Lol are they really that thick!

16 Jul 2015 09:07:05
Worsley suggests a united or city player then

16 Jul 2015 11:03:56
2nd ones Wayne Rooney 😂

16 Jul 2015 06:26:51
Nice to see Liverpool are signing world class marco reus & you guys are getting useless Big benteke ! You guys should be over the moon ! lol

16 Jul 2015 07:18:49
So when you look at the liverpool page and Ed002 says "i really doubt it" when asked about Marco and then that we have no instrest in benteke is it possible to know where you get your story from? The metro maybe?

16 Jul 2015 07:52:23
That'll be the day

16 Jul 2015 08:22:35
Reus wants a bit more than mid-table football. He's still young and ambitious. A bit too young to give up on winning things.

16 Jul 2015 08:23:59
I wouldn't bother wasting your breath, Titchmatt89. Even Ed002 has taken to mocking the afflicted when it comes to the delusional liverpool fans.

16 Jul 2015 10:12:25
Can't believe ed001 let one of his own through with that pathetic post, you are supposed to look out for the special people in your community ed, shame on you! :-)

{Ed001's Note - I was just trying to make you feel less inferior than you will have done after comparing yourselves with me over the last few days. Doing my bit for special people like you Bren ;o)

16 Jul 2015 10:31:23
How rude!

{Ed001's Note - I was trying to be nice, you know we love you really, even if you do slobber all over the windows.....}

16 Jul 2015 10:41:38
Hey, I always wipe them after!

{Ed001's Note - yes but with a dirty, oily rag and the smears are horrible.}

16 Jul 2015 04:19:19
O god let this benteke rumours be false. Paying 32m for a striker to play as second fiddle to rooney is ridiculous, unless he is going to takeover from rooney one day which i can't see. So Benteke for 32m or lewandowski for 35m. It is clear who we should sign.

If Benteke was available for 15m then i would have loved to sign him but for the quoted price, shoot me

16 Jul 2015 08:11:43
Stretha. I don't think the price matters too much in this instance. I just don't think Benteke is the right fit for what lvg is trying to do.
Lewandawaski is the best striker out there and we should be breaking the bank to get him.

16 Jul 2015 08:45:56
Lewandowski all the way then Benema if we can't get benzema too then we should go for cavani.

To be fair either of Cavani or Bemzema will be good if we can't get Lewandowski

16 Jul 2015 11:30:20
Nomidfield? What's going on here then?

15 Jul 2015 23:44:06
Lvg was very clear in his press conference that every player must prove himself and fight for his place in the team. If he signs a striker Rooney will find this out if he is being outperformed and that is how it should be. Personally I don't think that any more than 5 players will start more than 35 games in a probable 55 game season

16 Jul 2015 01:03:00
Ken,

When a manager picks a Captain, typically he stays captain until he leaves the club. Does LVG have a history of working the captaincy this way or does Rooney have to prove that worthiness also.

16 Jul 2015 08:14:19
When did rooney go out and not give his all? He can be accused of many things but he always gives his all.

{Ed001's Note - perhaps he means off the pitch? On the pitch he is all out effort, but off the pitch, well he is the reason he is fat and blowing hard after 60min.}

16 Jul 2015 09:03:22
Has rooney ever been 'fat'? Looked in good shape last 2 seasons

{Ed001's Note - fat for a footballer I should have said, he is defo overweight and that is down to a crap lifestyle. If he was part of the British athletics or cycling squad he would have been booted out and they are the most successful sports in Britain right now, in terms of achievement. Dave Brailsford would not put up with the kind of stuff footballers in general get up to every week. You are expected to be professional and that is why they can compete properly against the best in the world on a consistent basis and produce their best on a regular basis. Sad thing is footballers are paid many times the amount people like Chris Hoy earnt, yet they do far less for their money.}

16 Jul 2015 09:31:40
so did players not have to prove themselves last season

16 Jul 2015 09:49:54
Ed001,

But 75000 people aren't paying £40-£50 to go and watch Chris Hoy cycle every week, there is a reason footballers get paid so much money, because the clubs can afford to do it.

I agree Rooney should be fitter though, but he has got away with it for so long I doubt he will change now.

{Ed001's Note - I don't argue that they get the money because of that, what I am disputing is the attitude of footballers thinking they don't have to earn that money just because so many people are watching them. If Chris Hoy can take the time to live a life designed to get maximum performance every time he competes, then why can't a footballer earning over a 100k a week? Or any professional footballer for that matter. They are robbing the fans of that money as they are not doing all they can to earn it. You only have to look at the career Pavel Nedved had, he was not the best player in his age group when younger, he just lived correctly and trained harder and longer than the rest. Instead we get drunken imbeciles falling out of clubs for 200k a week and millions in signing fees who will never reach their potential because of their own failings.}

16 Jul 2015 11:49:43
The tour de France pulls in great crowds, the go through small towns and the crowds on the roads are 10 deep in places. And those boys work hard.

Hoy was a great competitor, so was Wiggins and guys like Froome and Cavendish. Not to mention the ladies team at the Olympics. If more sportsmen had the same attitude we would win more stuff.

15 Jul 2015 23:41:09
Has to be said iv been critical of woody for past exploits but he's really turned things around. Full credit to him, top signings at good prices. roll on signing number 5! Got a feeling its going to be a game changer!

16 Jul 2015 07:21:49
If he could get lewi and otamendi i can see a knighthood on the horizon